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Could it also may be the same glasses he is wearing on the pic from ABC when he was arrested?

Pure speculation on my part but GVC's sister is an aruban police officer, his father runs the security company responsible for beach patrol and a few days after Dompig is replaced this kid is arrested. I think it's quite possible when Dompig was replaced GVC lost his protection.

The security shirt found on the beach was from GVC's father's company and had the initials GVC on the shirt. Tacopina said ALE says there is forensic evidence of some type on the shirt. If it turns out to be his shirt and his blood on the shirt it could mean he struggled with somebody and that somebody drew blood. Then not wanting to be spotted with a bloody shirt he decided he would bury it on the beach and come back for it later. Problem being in the interim the shirt was found.

Dan, it appears to me that you might be a better investigator than the ALE.

I remember the picture that looked like Natalee's shirt, was this found around the same area?

http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/2005/07/24/was-natalies-shirt-found-with-the-duct-tape/

I keep going back to that photo comparison about the shirt as well. It keeps haunting me, even though Dan spent hours "unlayering" that image and disregarded it as a piece of evidence. Dan, would you know if it was found in the same area?

Those sunglasses are common on the island. EVERYBODY wears those.

Does anyone know where on the island the mattress was found? Is the colony area exact opposite of the fishermans huts or light house?

Where's TJ Ward?

The matress contained dog blood and was found in the construction area of the Mariott hotel, next to HI and virtually on the other side of the island as the colony.
Romour on Aruba: SVC was jealous and was the one hindering Kalpoe's car on the evening of NH's disappearance (hindering was reported by Dutch program "Opsporing verzocht")

Something does not sound right about these reports of rumor coming out of Aruba now. If GVC hindered the car, why did J2K not tell that when they were in custody? If there was anything to this GVC guy, J2K could have shifted the focus on him when they were in jail last year.

If you look closely at the pictures of GVC that are on all the MSM, and also in Dan's report here "Forensic Evidence In Holloway Case?", you will notice that in the official pictures of GVC he has a very distinctive mole on the left side of his face right below his cheek. So far most of the other pics that are being passed around the blog show that same mole so I would say these are indeed pics of GeoffreyVC and that he frequented the beach and tourist and mingled with the female tourist regularly. JMHO

I believe GVC helped dispose of the body but it was Joran et el that caused her demise.

It seems likely to me this man's arrest was timed to take advantage of a 3 day news black out. No paper coverage in Aruba Saturday, Sunday and Monday. So far I cannot find a single outlet showing reporters via any decent hook-up. When Joran and K2 were the focus, the media practically built remote stations on Aruba to convey every image and case twist available with perfect clarity.

Now they don't seem to care to report the only really big case news in months. If it's not Joran - it's not news.

We have not seen a "dossier" on this new suspect, never seen his home, his family or his lifestyle. In day 4 some media goofs still call him by his initials. There is no attempt, I can tell, to find where he blogs or posts picture albums. IOW - to the media, so far, Geoffrey is a big bore.

And that is because Geoffrey is not Joran. Ms Twitty discounts him with ease, slipping into her "the trio lied default" mode. She remains content to sue he and his father for "debasing Natalee" regardless of a shred of proof. Mr Holloway, predictably, sees a bit more hope in this arrest.

Jossie admits surprise. Greta has passed on racing off to Aruba because as John Gibson noted, "Greta owns this story" - apparently only if the story is Joran. She won't admit it, but Greta developed concerns about Joran guilt when she interviewed him and he did well recounting his version of events. Dan Abrams seems to be re-thinking things too.

But it sure would be nice to see Ms Twitty ignore her own boycott and start blasting away at the new arrestee, stalking his parents and home and workplacce with her cameraman. I'd like to see her visit the security firm owned by the father of GVC to grill uncomfortable workers - but that won't happen - because it might not relate to Joran and K2.

She will only accept this new twist if it helps "connect the dots to Joran and K2".

I think the new arrest is a good sign. Another good sign is the rather secretive sonar exam of an area that was in it's 2nd day yesterday - with no fanfare. Maybe they have some decent new leads via the new arrestee.

And maybe there will be justice and a solution, despite the Joran and K2 bias.

and spashtc what evidence do you have of that? Dont give me that "they lied" BS. Evidence. Where is evidence that J2K brought harm to NH? I think everyone, on both sides, in this case needs to re-open their thought process about what happened here. Tunnel vision results in mistakes.

I bet a lot of people wear that type of sunglasses.

Of course, the glasses would have fingerprints on them.

Joran also wears that type--he has at least one pair--he wore them in prison.
Remember the infamous smirking photo?

I'll be watching the Aruban 8 PM news tonight on-line to get the real local dirt on the arrest.


Beth Twitty is Natalee's mother. She is not a private detective, police investigator,forensic pathologist or criminal profiler. She "thinks" that the 3 suspects are guilty because they have lied and they have acted guilty. She may be wrong, she may be right.

This is the reason why families do not conduct their own investigations, because they are emotional, traumatized and desperate for any kind of answers or closure. They will grasp onto any fact they can to give them hope or a sense they know what happened.

I am sick of Beth being excoriated for doing what is normal for a grieving family member to do. IF the Arubans had conducted a decent investigation from the start then maybe she would not have felt the need to take her case to the public, she would have been confident ALE was vigorously investigating the case and would solve it if possible.

But instead she was treatd to the Dennis Jacobs/Gerald Dompig circus of freaks.

There is no doubt that Beth ignores certain information that she runs with something that fits her preconceived notion of the case before all the facts are in and that she wants to protect Natalee's memory [again, this seems a no brainer, what mother would want her missing daughter characterized as a drunken drug taking slut?? especially if it isn't true??]

It is also true that Beth has been right more than she has been wrong. She was right about the 'in and out of consciousness' statements made by Joran, as validated by Dompig. She was right about the statement by Joran that 'maybe' Deepak raped, murdered and burried Natalee. She was right that the security guards were wrongly detained and are innocent. She was right that the suspects were not properly interogated, searched or monitored in the first week of the case.

xxx, you have to remember that alot of posters do not have children and are therefore clueless, and I don't say that in a bad way.

F**C that, I don't have children, you don't need to have children to understand that a parent would be crazed with worry and grief if their child disappeared without a trace and the last people seen with her started lying right off.

I just said I don't mean that in a bad way, and oh yes, it sure does make a difference, in your heart, so you can stop swearing at me now. I'm on your side BTW, but I'm not going to even go there, not anymore.

Ms Twitty also relies on the old "sweat test" indicator. Because PVDS sweated in Aruba while she was there with Greta and a cameraman, that seemed to suggest guilt.

I guess there's not much use speculating. After today's blurry cell phone coverage of the hearing, we might get some insight on what the heck is happening.

I didn't do it.

So I guess Nancy Grace continues her losing streak, after declaring the Runaway Bride dead meat, Michael Jackson guilty on all counts, & Joran a psychopathic killer.

i don't know, i just keep thinking:
We have Dutch National Joran VanDerSloot, his Dutch Natl father (sort of judge). Now we have a Dutch National operated security firm which provides service to hotels, the government and the police. That man's Dutch Natl. son is being questioned. His sister is a police officer. Allegedly J2K do not know the man arrested (per their attys.). Yet, if true, Steve Croes knows all, J2K and man arrested. Why does it always seem in this case that everything and everyone connects back to government/police/judges, etc. And I am sure there are a dozen other things I am not thinking of that have happened and tie in in that way as well. And not only does this new one tie into the hotel areas/security, may have been on beach, there was also the shirt found elsewhere with the glasses, etc. AND he is a known figure in the party scene/tourist scene/bar scene. WHICH way does he tie in or is it ALL of those ways? And J2K do not know him but Steve Croes does (per people in Aruba allegedly)? Come ON, something still smells. Of course Croes did not KNOW J2K either, mm-hmm.

Good Morning All -

Should get interesting in the next couple of weeks...I sure hope this isn't another dead end. I still believe JK2 are involved some way. You don't come out of the gates with a lie and go to the extent that Deepak did with the S.C. alibi.

TIPS

To all the Natalee Holloway Fans,

After a brief period of dormancy following almost a year of constantly being flashed in our faces, every night, the images of Natalee Holloway “video collages” showing her dancing amongst a troupe of “Drunkettes” (Mountain Brook High School’s Aruban version of Radio City Music Hall’s famous “Rockettes” ?), and other of her much publicized images, which have proven that if not a “Helen of Troy,” Natalee, in her much acclaimed “beauty,” with her hook-beaked nose, peroxide-blonde hair, and the two mosquito bites on her chest, though not capable of “launching a thousand ships” yet still managed to launch three Dutch F-16s at much expense to Aruba and the Netherlands, once again irrupt out of our television screens; albeit, this time justifiably so!

Oh, did I fail to mention? Beth is also back in her adoring “limelight” and will once more be appearing nightly with “exclusivity” on Faux News, as she did last night, to once more chew the cud! Just as Steven Spielberg’s Poltergeist: “....she’s baaaack!” Natalee may be dead, but Beth does the “Haunting”!!!

After endless months of nothing but, inflammatory rumors, malicious hear-says, baseless allegations, derogatory defamations, fantastic speculations, ludicrous conjectures, and of the fabricating and dissecting “ad nauseam” (a la HarryTho) of so much “conjectural,” “probable,” “evidence” to make even the false “evidence” on the infamous “Dreyfus Affair,” of the turn of the 20th century in France, pale in comparison, most of which, of course, was arrived at by “deduction” on many of the blogs following this sordid “Agatha Christie” styled case, at last, there has truly been a “break” in the case since June of last year worth reporting on national television; though much like in the “Fable” of “the boy that cried wolf “(in this case the “Beth Banshee that cried Joran”) many will no longer follow the developments of this fracas...out of sheer exhaustion!!!

How ironic that after all the calls for the “lynching” of Joran and the Kalpoe brothers, the “nuking of Aruba” and other such “drastic measures” (far more “Draconian” than deporting “illegal” Mexican immigrants back to Mexico, by the way) proposed by the more “zealous” Beth supporters, and other “Acolytes” of this “Mother Goddess Beth and her Sainted Natalee of Aruba daughter” sect which rivals Tom Cruise’s Scientology in its absurdity, and Reverend Jim Jones of Guayana Kool -Aid drinking followers in its fervor, that those of us “ heartless monsters” who advocated that J2K be “presumed innocent” until there was sufficient evidence to charge anyone in this case, may actually turn out to be right, and the “premeditating,” “cold and calculated,” “murdering trio” (who of course dissolved Natalee’s body in a vat of acid in Paulus Van der Sloot’s secret laboratory located in the “septic tank” on his property with the help of “Igor”....notwithstanding his plumbing connects to the sewers) may actually be INNOCENT, and the “Dutch boy with the blue eyes” newly apprehended, or others, may be responsible!!!

What is really sad is that while most of America’s “Conservative Base” (most Democrats are too busy in unrelentingly bashing Bush, undermining the Administrations’ policies and its gains - such as a robust economy the likes of which the Democrats have not seen in over half a century, and assuring of a “defeat in Iraq” to give a rat’s ass about Natalee!), has been kept “lulled” and “stupefied”by this “Soap Opera Melodrama” / “TV News Reality Show” with Beth merrily “traipsing” along in Aruba followed by her beloved ubiquitous cameras, the support for our troops wanes in a time of war, we waver in front of the looming, ever more menacing, Iranian nuclear threat, and we slowly but assuredly creep ever closer to the Democrats once again assuming control, so that they may resume the driving down our collective throats of their godless, homosexual, defeatist, “Secular Progressive,” “Politically Correct,” “Internationalist” (let’s open up the borders even more! We need the “browning” of America....in the American “Melting pot”....with “Taco Sauce” this time!), “Marxist” agenda as they have been doing for forty years now, until the “Conservative Revolution” at the polls of a few years past interrupted their “indoctrination,” which they relentlessly have been working on with the help of such Satraps as Harry Reid, who before he became Senate Minority Leader portrayed himself as a soft-spoken, mild-mannered man, but that as soon as he came in touch with the Washington “Ring of Power” (“My Preciousssss.....”), has become one of the most vicious, virulent demagogues on the Senate floor ever!!!

History unfortunately repeats itself due to the follies of men, and if the shade of things to come does not alter, we are witnessing the same type of social turmoil, the same pessimistic attitudes, the same hedonistic “effeminateness,” the same lack of “sense of direction” as a People in the face of History, as that which was the preamble and precursor to the “Fall fo Rome”! Let us see how it goes with America!!!

As I have often said about some of my other “ unpopular views” before, which nevertheless have turned out to be right, I hate to be proven right.... this way!

Let us hope that with these new developments taking place in Aruba, this Natalee Holloway case will be solved once and for all, so that not only may she, but also the rest of the nation.... “REST IN PEACE,” and we may move along to address other far more pressing matters.... in light of all we face!!!


Nefariously yours,


Althor

P.S. By the way please, if you have any “Hate Mail” with which to respond to this “satire,” please send it to:

Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad@Mullahpigasaredogvomit.com

This satire is so weak and boring; it lacks a hook or theme. You're being too verbose and redundant-the word superfluous and repetitive comes to mind. You're using words that are not appropriate for your examples, and it is very reminiscent of Don King or Mike Tyson giving a dissertation with big words they just looked up in the thesaurus.

I am witholding any comments until there is more news or until there is a statement from Aruba. We have all jumped the gun before
and made incorrect assumptions.
This GVC was not considered a suspect when he was taken in. He went to the polis station as he was asked to. More for information.
What type of sunglasses he wears... jeeze ... get real.
There are some pictures of him as he worked at a surf or board shop.
I am going to wait and see as this detention could be something or it could be a whole bunch of nothing.

This satire is so weak and boring; it lacks a hook or theme. You're being too verbose and redundant-the word superfluous and repetitive comes to mind. You're using words that are not appropriate for your examples, and it is very reminiscent of Don King or Mike Tyson giving a dissertation with big words they just looked up in the thesaurus.

Now that just made me laugh, good one.

kat gram, while GVC may have gone in to give information, the information that was developed during the first six hours, led the investigators to detain him for three days, which can only be done if he is a suspect, and then they have to justify their detention to a judge, which they have done, to hold for eight more days. That is how it works there. He is definitely a suspect now. What evidence they have and what role he is suspected of playing in NHs disappearance is not known.

You're right, Althor, about the hooked nose. She has her dad's hooked nose.

You're right, Althor, about the hooked nose. She has her dad's hooked nose
Oh, that was so nice to say.......... grow up.

This satire is so weak and boring; it lacks a hook or theme. You're being too verbose and redundant-the word superfluous and repetitive comes to mind. You're using words that are not appropriate for your examples, and it is very reminiscent of Don King or Mike Tyson giving a dissertation with big words they just looked up in the thesaurus.

Posted by: Formosa | Tuesday, April 18, 2006 at 11:10 AM


Precisely! That is supposed to be the poignant humor of it! Too bad you missed it in your "matter of fact approach."
Oh well, some people take themselves too seriously...no sense of humor!!!

Althor :)

Althor poor baby lets see your hooked nose. Oh I mean snout.

Making fun of Natalee's appearance is not what I would call "humor" I would call it disgusting and childish.

Precisely! That is supposed to be the poignant humor of it! Too bad you missed it in your "matter of fact approach."
Oh well, some people take themselves too seriously...no sense of humor!!!

Althor :)

Posted by: Althor | Tuesday, April 18, 2006 at 11:27 AM


Nice try getting yourself out of your failed attempt at humor. There was no "poignant" humor in anything you just wrote, so just be a grown and admit that you failed at something...that's all!! You put so much work into this soporific satire, the last you wanted was for people to just ignore and read the next post. I'm two steps ahead of you Althor. Again; there was NO humor in your post. Humor should consist of no more one small paragraph and they also consist of more of a creative "right-brain" approach as opposed to your left brain matter-of-fact thesaurus reciting.

It is also true that Beth has been right more than she has been wrong. She was right about the 'in and out of consciousness' statements made by Joran, as validated by Dompig. She was right about the statement by Joran that 'maybe' Deepak raped, murdered and burried Natalee. She was right that the security guards were wrongly detained and are innocent. She was right that the suspects were not properly interogated, searched or monitored in the first week of the case.

Posted by: xxx | Tuesday, April 18, 2006 at 10:04 AM

XXX, you are wrong:

1. There are no valid statements and there is no valid evidence that Natalee was going in and out of consciousness.

2. She is wrong about the Joran statement that Deepak may have, bla, bla, bla. Joran could say that xxx may have bla, bla, bla. He only knows what he did or didn't do. Get with it, xx.

3. The security were not wrongfully detained. They were detained for reasons unconnected with J2K -- one of which was being in possession of certain items belonging to the MB group.

4. She would have no knowledge whether the suspects had been properly monitored, interrogated or searched in the first week.

Only you would still be barking these long ago debunked myths.

Turn your lightbulb on -- you're in the dark.

Did anyone else hear Joe T. say that he read GVC's name in police reports? He implied that some of the MB kids mentioned him in their statements.


TIPS

Althor, your "overuse" of "quotations" is really "annoying".

Posted by: yankee-in-france | Tuesday, April 18, 2006 at 11:44 AM

Provide your sources for your information.

NY Post article today:

According to what Holloway's friends have told authorities, the blond-haired, blue-eyed van Cromvoirt was seen with their classmate after she left van der Sloot - the pals say they saw them in the Holiday Inn casino together. But when the casino's video surveillance tapes were turned over to police, investigators could find no sign of Holloway and van Cromvoirt, the source noted.

http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/67162.htm

YIF

Beth is still denying that Natalee called her and told her about being in love and yet it is being reported that Natalee's friends knew of the conversation with Beth.

Beth needs to level. Had she leveled eleven months ago, we wouldn't be blogging about it today.


YANKEE,

1) Stop lying. Gerald Dompig said for a FACT that Joran stated sexual contact was occuring when Natalee was going in and out of consciousness and he and the prosecutor believed this should have constituted enough for a sexual assault charge. He said it to Dan Abrams. Get over yourself.

2) I am not wrong about Joran saying 'maybe' Deepak raped and killed Natalee, it is in the freaking unsigned statement witnesses by 4 Aruban cops. Again, it is a fact that he speculated this could have happened.

3) This is a rumor it has never been verified, if you can post a link to a report that has ALE saying the guards had MB property please do so.

4) Anybody with a brain can see they were not properly interogated or monitored in the first week, but that is a matter of opinion I suppose and not a fact. It is a fact that ALE said the 'surveillance' was loose and was not 24 hours a day...which to my mind makes it worthless.

...which to my mind makes it worthless.

Posted by: xxx | Tuesday, April 18, 2006 at 11:57 AM

-- since you have further confirmed your inability to reason and merely post what Beth believes as fact, you are in no position to determine what might or might not be worthless. You have again misstated everything -- go back to the boiler room for further instructions --

YIF


YIF

Provide the source to bck this statement.


3. The security were not wrongfully detained. They were detained for reasons unconnected with J2K -- one of which was being in possession of certain items belonging to the MB group.


How dare you say I mis stated everything when you already know that Gerald Dompig did validate the statement about in and out of consciouness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gerald Dompig also said that none of the boys gave statements or said that they had sexual intercourse with Natalee.

So, XXX, you stop lying!

Yes that is true but that is NOT THE SAME THING YOU MORON.

Having sexual contact with someone while they are going in and out of consciousness such as fondling them, taking their clothes off is NOT THE SAME as having sex with them.

I know that Dompig said none of the suspects admitted to having sex with Natalee and that Joran said they did NOT have sex.

But those are two different things....or is that too complicated for you.

1) sexual contact while going in and out of consciousness.

2) no sexual intercourse.

The two are not mutually exclusive nitwit.

Now where is there evidence that they took off her clothes -- you creeps are really hung up on this, aren't you.

Now where is there evidence that they took off her clothes -- you creeps are really hung up on this, aren't you.

Sorry, Dan for the double post.

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