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WHAT???

Just heard on news here in Birmgham that the Arbua govt has arrested someone (only initlas given - G V C)....

fox also mentioned possible friend of Steve Croes-(from Holloway family)

Last name Vasquez relative of Steve Croes. The moron who gave the fake alibi about the two black men helping Natalee after the three amigoes dropped her off at the HI. He did it because he wanted to be a nice guy.

I hope this pig squeals.

Live and hope ! ! !! ! . I am confused again. I thought that they detain under " suspicion ".
If arrested, then charges are brought forward.
If associated with Steve the aligi guy, then Steve better give him one ! !

... but wait a minute .... he's not from Mountain Brook?????

GAWD I hope this isn't another Beuti in the bush guy who had been shooting his mouth off ! !

and wreck he isnt JVs, DK or SK either. Let the speculation begin. Facts. Who has facts on this detention?

This suspect makes more sense to me. I never believed the three young men vilified for the past year were guilty. I hope for everyone's sake, this is the real deal, and Natalee's family, as well as the van der Sloots and Kalpoes, can finally have justice. If this was the murderer, how horrible for the three boys who were viciously depicted as rapist/predators for the last 11 months.

Natalee's family deserves to have closure, as well. However, I bet this puts a big dent in that odd civil case that they have going. It's probably safe to say that Joe Tacopina and the former suspects are celebrating tonight.

Exile, it's a little too soon to start celebrating. Just because an arrest has been made, doesn't mean J2K aren't involved. This guy is supposedly related to Steve Croes, friend of Deepak. There's probably a connection there.

Exile, it's a little too soon to start celebrating. Just because an arrest has been made, doesn't mean J2K aren't involved. This guy is supposedly related to Steve Croes, friend of Deepak. There's probably a connection there.

Posted by: punkingale | Sunday, April 16, 2006 at 12:17 AM

"Arrest" is not the correct term in Aruba. At this point, he is just "detained." This person could be a "material witness" or the like. Let's temper our glee a bit.

from an Aruban:

NAAM VAN VERDACHTE: Godfried van Cromvourt
GEBOORTEPLAATS: Nederland.
JAAR: 19.

Wreck, WHAT??????

Wreck, WHAT??????

Posted by: punkingale | Sunday, April 16, 2006 at 12:31 AM
Don't know if valid -- (but it was from the same source that first reported an arrest)

wreck what are you hearing he is being held for?

NAAM VAN VERDACHTE: Godfried van Cromvourt
GEBOORTEPLAATS: Nederland.
JAAR: 19.

So he is a 19 year old Dutch born guy. Is it confirmed how he is related to any of the suspects and Steve Croes ?

Maybe I'm too cynical, but I think it's very convenient the ALE found yet another beach bum. I just hope he has more information than their last one (Boeti).

Exile, it's a little too soon to start celebrating. Just because an arrest has been made, doesn't mean J2K aren't involved. This guy is supposedly related to Steve Croes, friend of Deepak. There's probably a connection there.

Posted by: punkingale | Sunday, April 16, 2006 at 12:17 AM
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Yea, you've got a good point there punkingale. Was he actually a friend of Deepak's though? While they were acquaintances, it's still a nebulous relationship. But, you're right, in noting the relationship that Steve Croes had, and Deepak's enthusiasm in using his "alibi" there could be more to it.

To be honest, while I never believed Joran harmed Natalee, it never seemed as clear to me how Deepak and Satish were involved.

I hope for everyone's sake, though, that this sad case will have a resolution, and someone will pay for harming Natalee.

NAAM VAN VERDACHTE: Godfried van Cromvourt
GEBOORTEPLAATS: Nederland.
JAAR: 19.

So he is a 19 year old Dutch born guy. Is it confirmed how he is related to any of the suspects and Steve Croes ?

Posted by: TYLER | Sunday, April 16, 2006 at 12:41 AM
TOTALLY unconfirmed so far.

It's probably safe to say that Joe Tacopina and the former suspects are celebrating tonight.

Posted by: exilesanctuary.com | Sunday, April 16, 2006 at 12:09 AM

I'm not so sure. This guy has been detained probably for questioning and has not been named suspect yet. If this guy knows something about one of the suspects that they have hidden so far , this means trouble for them. I just hope we finally get some answers.

Hmmm...

I wonder if he has any ties to Carlos and Charlie's the night Natalee disappeared.

Just a thought

IF he is related or has ties to Steve Croes, then it may explain why SC was so quick to back up the HI drop off story; to divert attention away from his boy. It will be interesting to see what info surfaces in the next couple days.

I finished reading Dave Holloway's book yesterday and I'm convinced, especially after reading his book, that the cover up and the "turning the other way" while Natalee's body was found and disposed of, was done by the "higher ups", all connected to Paulus and doing Paulus a favor, thinking everyone would forget about the story eventually.

I also, don't think that Joran intentionally killed Natalee, but I do believe she died in his company due to overdose or whatever. The disposal was part of Paulus and friends. I am concerned that this GVC guy may be used as a scapegoat to pin this crime on, to get the Holloway/Twitty's and the US media to finally go away and life go back to normal.

JMHO and I DO highly recommed Dave's book!

'm not so sure. This guy has been detained probably for questioning and has not been named suspect yet. If this guy knows something about one of the suspects that they have hidden so far , this means trouble for them. I just hope we finally get some answers.

Posted by: TYLER | Sunday, April 16, 2006 at 12:44 AM
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You could be right. Like you, I would like there to be answers, for everyone directly involved. Love or hate Natalee's family, love or hate the suspects and their families, they all deserve justice, in whatever form is appropriate.

I pray that the truth comes out through these recent developments.

IF he is related or has ties to Steve Croes, then it may explain why SC was so quick to back up the HI drop off story; to divert attention away from his boy. It will be interesting to see what info surfaces in the next couple days.

Posted by: HenryVIII | Sunday, April 16, 2006 at 12:47 AM
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Yes indeed. That makes alot sense! I'll never forget that impromptu interview that Greta van Susteren did with Croes, and how he came off. The hinky meter was off the scale. He seemed like he had an agenda for his "niceness." Croes and he could be more involved than anyone ever realized.

This is posted on www.arubanboycott.blogspot.com

Authorities have made an arrest in the case of missing U.S. teen Natalee Holloway, an Aruban official said Saturday without providing details about the development in the high-profile case. (It has been revealed to me that this person is Godfried van Cromvourt; Residence: The Netherlands; Age, 19. Reportedly a friend of Steve Croes and a brother of an Aruban police officer.)

Yes indeed. That makes alot sense! I'll never forget that impromptu interview that Greta van Susteren did with Croes, and how he came off. The hinky meter was off the scale. He seemed like he had an agenda for his "niceness." Croes and he could be more involved than anyone ever realized.

Posted by: exilesanctuary.com | Sunday, April 16, 2006 at 12:59 AM

okay, jumping WAY ahead, but IF (still BIG IF) Charles Croes has any involvement -- it throws EVERYTHING about triangulation of cell phones that night into question.

Three things:
There was a friend of Joran's, staying at his house on the night in question- could this be the guy ?
There was also another guy who was a dope dealer, had a house in Aruba where a lot of raves were held, and I believe that he left on a boat, soon after Natalee disappeared
Also, didn't Croes lie to the LIE about seeing Joran and the 2 bro's drop Natalee off at the hotel (lie #1) because Kalpoe asked him to ?

It's been so long, I have to rack my brain cells

Does anyone know if the alleged call early the next morning from VDS to SC is BS or not? I remember hearing about it but can't remember if confirmed.

it throws EVERYTHING about triangulation of cell phones that night into question.

Posted by: wreck | Sunday, April 16, 2006 at 01:06 AM

Why is that so ??

Wreck,
Do you think Charles Croes could manipulate cell records? I bet he could.

it throws EVERYTHING about triangulation of cell phones that night into question.

Posted by: wreck | Sunday, April 16, 2006 at 01:06 AM

Why is that so ??

Posted by: TYLER | Sunday, April 16, 2006 at 01:08 AM

.. because Charles Croes owns the cell phone company on the island. He would have control of that info. BUT, there seems to be more corroboration that the "Van Cromvourt" name is the correct name. Head is spinnng.


wreck ,
I think you are confusing Steve Croes with Charles Croes . I dont know if they are related though.

person who was arrested is 19 and has the initials "G.V.C."

Wreck,
Do you think Charles Croes could manipulate cell records? I bet he could.

Posted by: windy city | Sunday, April 16, 2006 at 01:13 AM
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Have they said Charles Croes was involved in any way? I don't believe Steve and Charles share anything other than a name. Charles Croes was pretty respectable, and he was helpful to the family when they came to the island, in a state of panic. He's an older guy, and I can't see him being involved in any way.

dont jump to fast this kid could point right back to Joran, and the Kalpoe you just never know

Tried a google search for godfried van cromvourt. None, but they suggested the spelling godfried van cromvoirt and there were many hits, mostly in Dutch. If you can read Dutch, maybe you can try searching and see if you find any info to post for us.

Have they said Charles Croes was involved in any way? I don't believe Steve and Charles share anything other than a name. Charles Croes was pretty respectable, and he was helpful to the family when they came to the island, in a state of panic. He's an older guy, and I can't see him being involved in any way.

Posted by: exilesanctuary.com | Sunday, April 16, 2006 at 01:16 AM

It is all running together w/ speculation. "Charles Croes" has a son named "Giovanni Croes." Some reports have the "detainee" as a "friend" of "Steve Croes." Lots of combinations of "GVC".

I said this the other night -- "the whole damn island is related to each other."

dont jump to fast this kid could point right back to Joran, and the Kalpoe you just never know

Posted by: Wearenotstupid | Sunday, April 16, 2006 at 01:18 AM

i agree

I think Charles Croes was helpful at first. (His 15 minutes of fame?) But he said some pretty derogatory things about Natalee in the Vanity Fair article.

Tried a google search for godfried van cromvourt. None, but they suggested the spelling godfried van cromvoirt and there were many hits, mostly in Dutch. If you can read Dutch, maybe you can try searching and see if you find any info to post for us.

Posted by: satchmo | Sunday, April 16, 2006 at 01:18 AM
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FYI- Babelfish has a good Dutch to English translator.

http://babelfish.altavista.com/

Just copy and paste into the text box, and specify Dutch to English. It's not flawless, but,at least gives you a sense of what the text says.

"This suspect makes more sense to me. I never believed the three young men vilified for the past year were guilty. I hope for everyone's sake, this is the real deal, and Natalee's family, as well as the van der Sloots and Kalpoes, can finally have justice. If this was the murderer, how horrible for the three boys who were viciously depicted as rapist/predators for the last 11 months.

Natalee's family deserves to have closure, as well. However, I bet this puts a big dent in that odd civil case that they have going. It's probably safe to say that Joe Tacopina and the former suspects are celebrating tonight"

exilesanctuary I dont mean to sound rude but you said this suspect made more sense then the first three. Either you are psysic or you actually know who got rid of NH. The three boys are still the main suspects and they will continue to be until either someone talks or the boys die. No way three people who was last seen with NH are innocent. Hell these three cant even get their stories straight on who drove the car or who took Joran home. Even Joran told Greta one story of how he got home from the beach while the brothers told a different story. If the boys cant come to a simple agreement like this what makes you think they didnt do something to NH or know who actually did. I may be able to agree the boys didnt kill her themselves but they absolutly 100% know where she is or was.

mostly family tree stuff
Godfried is a very old Dutch name and his last name is kind of a name that descents from old dukes and stuff

mostly family tree stuff
Godfried is a very old Dutch name and his last name is kind of a name that descents from old dukes and stuff

It is all running together w/ speculation. "Charles Croes" has a son named "Giovanni Croes." Some reports have the "detainee" as a "friend" of "Steve Croes." Lots of combinations of "GVC".

I said this the other night -- "the whole damn island is related to each other."

Posted by: wreck | Sunday, April 16, 2006 at 01:20 AM
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Ah! GVC!! Thanks wreck. LOL, there are alot of Croes on the island. After hearing that the Kalpoes were some kind of cousins to Dompig, I thought the same thing about the relativity of people on the island. I can now see why that would have factored into this case, as well. :)

MSNBC website is reporting the person arrested is an acquantance of Dutch national Joran van der Sloot and Surinamese brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe.

Seems that virtually every young person involved to date has had myspace.com postings.

I would like to see anyone who knows their way around that site to see if they can get a hit on Godfried van Cromvoirt.

Ah! GVC!! Thanks wreck. LOL, there are alot of Croes on the island. After hearing that the Kalpoes were some kind of cousins to Dompig, I thought the same thing about the relativity of people on the island. I can now see why that would have factored into this case, as well. :)
Posted by: exilesanctuary.com | Sunday, April 16, 2006 at 01:32 AM


hell, my joke clear back in July (when someone was trying to inject the Scientologists into this) was that it was "Tom Croes" involved! ; )

Reports from bloggers Beth is headed to Aruba which means something big has happen.

One reliable blogger but still just a rumor at this time

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