Natalee Holloway - Did Natalee Call Home During The Trip?

From what I'm hearing ... you might want to stay tuned. We may just find out soon.

Strange case, that's for sure.

Comments

[DennisAOK]

Posters on other blogs are saying she did. I wait anxiously!

[Shari]

Dan,

You don't mean recently, do you????

[dt]

Doesn't mean that Beth answered the phone and actually talked to her....REACHING AGAIN!

[Shari]

I highly doubt it was recent, unless it's a hoax of some sort.

[DennisAOK]

Shari,

The question posed is did Natalee call home DURING THE TRIP?

[boywonder]

OK Dan I'll bite....so WTF if she called home...tell me one thing it will change...of course if she called home from Paulus's house...then you might be on to something

[Shari]

Dennis,
I realized that after I posted. Unfortunately, there is no edit button on these boards.

[Skye]

I hope this information is not coming from blogs like RU, FOB or TUS. Everything on those blogs are lies.

[jack]

Joe T said on Greta last night that he has phone records claiming that

[c]

Posted by: Skye | Friday, April 21, 2006 at 09:52 AM

the only blog to beleive is the monkeys blog.

[kaycee77025]

I think Dan is talking about a call Beth denied receiving while NH was in Aruba.

[TJ]

I can't wait to see the phone records show up posted online. Also it would be nice to see that letter sent to justice dept with all the questions on it. Might give clues to what is in the police reports from the beginning.

[kaycee77025]

No evidence of a crime ...... nada ....... none ...........

[jack]

so WTF if she called home...tell me one thing it will change...of course if she called home from Paulus's house...then you might be on to something

Posted by: boywonder | Friday, April 21, 2006 at 09:49 AM

It will make Beth lose her credibility because she has maintained that Natalee never called back home from Aruba. I know how teenagers on vacation are but I expect she would have called home atleast once and let her family know that she is safe and how she is enjoying the trip etc.

[kaycee77025]

so WTF if she called home...tell me one thing it will change...of course if she called home from Paulus's house...then you might be on to something

Posted by: boywonder | Friday, April 21, 2006 at 09:49 AM

It will make Beth lose her credibility because she has maintained that Natalee never called back home from Aruba. I know how teenagers on vacation are but I expect she would have called home atleast once and let her family know that she is safe and how she is enjoying the trip etc.

Posted by: jack | Friday, April 21, 2006 at 10:10 AM
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It will make no difference to the true believers.

[DennisAOK]

It will make no difference to the true believers.

Posted by: kaycee77025 | Friday, April 21, 2006 at 10:16 AM

No, I am with Jack. Beth would lose credibility. But why would she lie about something that would not seem to be important? Note: The source for this must be other tahn Joe T.

[jack]

Beth would lose credibility. But why would she lie about something that would not seem to be important? Note: The source for this must be other tahn Joe T.

Posted by: DennisAOK | Friday, April 21, 2006 at 10:20 AM

And then everything else that Beth has ever said would be taken with a pinch of salt just like what happened to the suspects . The question of the blue eyed Dutch boy for instance and many more.

[Kelly3]

If she did call home to whom did she talk to? Was it Beth, Jug, or her brother? I think this is big. Why would Beth say she didn't if she did?

[Florida Patty]

Beth was away at a B & B while Natalee was in Aruba and everyone was to be back at the house from their special holidays the same day. I specifically heard Beth say she never spoke with Natalee while she was in Aruba. She said Natalee's cell phone did not make international calls.

[jack]

FP ,
Was Beth at the B&B for the entire week or just the weekend ? You can always use a calling card to make international calls I guess.

[patti diamond]

In the beginning, there was talk of a phone call from Natalee with what sounded like monkeys in the background and Natalee saying, 'but i don't know them', or something to that effect. I believe it was sent from her to a male classmate on that trip and he didn't check his phone until he got back to Alabama and got the message at that time.

[kaycee77025]

It will make no difference to the true believers.
Posted by: kaycee77025 | Friday, April 21, 2006 at 10:16 AM
No, I am with Jack. Beth would lose credibility. But why would she lie about something that would not seem to be important? Note: The source for this must be other tahn Joe T.
Posted by: DennisAOK | Friday, April 21, 2006 at 10:20 AM
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There are 2 groups of true believers, one for and one against; and some people in the middle who want to find out what happened, looking for real proof and not trying to finish a murder mystery.
After 11 months everyone seems esconced in their place.

[KAT_IS_DEVIL]

Ok Pleeeeeeeeease don't do this to us again !!!! !

Yes, even tho cell phone might not work there are hotel phones, pay phones, etc. Other ppls phones.

IF they can find if there was a call received, they had better give the time, day and the number the call was made from. AND how long was the call, it could have gone to a machine or voice mail.

There were calls made to Alabama the Monday morning.

Do you remember the call that C Croes listened to ?

[dt]

Beth WOULD NOT lose credibility because if you listen to her words carefully she said she didn't receive a phone call from Natalee stating she was in love with a blue eyed Dutch boy. She also didn't say Natalee NEVER called but that she didn't speak to Natalee.

Any of you clowns actually think Beth is involved in her own daughter's disapperance because that is the only conclusion you bozos can come to if she's lying about talking to Natalee......I'm still waiting for someone to come up with a logical and sensible reason as to why Beth would lie about that? YOU CAN'T!

[Berry]

Did Natalee call home, does not mean, "Did Natalee call Beth?" Jug was there too and a brother.

[KAT_IS_DEVIL]

Did it ever cross anyone's mind that Joe T might be full of shit ? And he is looking to discredit Beth ?

[goodgirl.]

beth was at the b&b the whole week remember she got the call that nat was missing while at the B&B. she was with girlfriends for the weekend. now nat might of called and talked to a machine or a voice mail. she might of even talked to someone else in the house other then beth.
remember the whole details about beth leaving and getting pulled over by the police and she told that police man her daughter had been kidnapped. and everyone make a big to do about that statement so earily on, like how did she know she was kidnapped and so forth.

im wondering if there going to talk about the phone call beth got on her cell phone after the fact where the girl on the phone said... mom help. if this is the phone call that will be old news. again.

[Berry]

Beth WOULD NOT lose credibility because if you listen to her words carefully she said she didn't receive a phone call from Natalee stating she was in love with a blue eyed Dutch boy. She also didn't say Natalee NEVER called but that she didn't speak to Natalee.

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Maybe you should re-read or go back and listen again. I'm pretty sure just the other night, with Abrams or one of them, Beth denied adamently ever hearing from Natalee while she was in Aruba. She even said her cell phone was not activated for international calling.

[DennisAOK]

There are 2 groups of true believers, one for and one against; and some people in the middle who want to find out what happened, looking for real proof and not trying to finish a murder mystery.
After 11 months everyone seems esconced in their place.

Posted by: kaycee77025 | Friday, April 21, 2006 at 10:37 AM

It is possible to want the truth and see justice served while still believing the finger of suspicion points to J2K.

[Formosa]

All you conspiracy thinkers out there.....what reason would Beth have for lying? It does not serve a purpose! She wants to find her daughter, so if Natalee called home I'm sure she would provide that information to the authorities if it would help in finding out what happened to Natalee. Some people are just a bunch of dunder-heads thinking everything is a conspiracy. Use your brain for crying out loud.

[KAT_IS_DEVIL]

I am going to wait and see... like I am still waiting for the other stuff ....

Hey, let's have Joe T. produce the phone records from Paulus ! !

[jack]

I'm still waiting for someone to come up with a logical and sensible reason as to why Beth would lie about that? YOU CAN'T!

Posted by: dt | Friday, April 21, 2006 at 10:39 AM

Beth is so convinced that J2K hold the key to the disappearance that she probably would not have wanted to cause distraction by corroborating the Blue eyed Dutch boy story , and also to promote Natalee's good character.
It doesnt make sense to think that Beth was involved in the disappearance but Beth's behavior also has been irrational and stubborn at times. When PVDS came out of his house that night , Beth shouted even without looking carefully " Look , There he is Joran !".In other words she has put the cart before the horse many times and may even have lied to support her tunnel vision thinking.

[Skyboxx]

Didn't NH have an international Cell phone? Wasn't that one of the ways Beth was able to trace calls and point in the direction of the VDS home in the first place? Didn't someone say that a call was made from the internatinal cell phone and they trianulated the call and it came from near the VDS home compound? I don't see where this changes anything...the girl is still missing.

Now if you are telling me she called last week and told Ma Twitty to take a hike, all is well, then that's different.

Have to go back and re-read some old news on this, but I thought the teens had rented international cell phones as their own cell phones would not work.

Also, depending on the cell phone, some TEXT messges to work internatinoally , even though cell calls don't. Text messages are sent differencly then cell signals.

[Mike]

"Did it ever cross anyone's mind that Joe T might be full of shit ? And he is looking to discredit Beth ?"

A defense lawyer dumping on the plaintiffs and a victims family....standard practice isn't it?

Joe T. strikes me as your typical lets get all the money I can get out of a client grauduated low in my class type of lawyer. Where is all that money coming from?

I kind of don't think that Beth would lie about something that could easily be proven thru phone company records.

[jack]

I kind of don't think that Beth would lie about something that could easily be proven thru phone company records.

Posted by: Mike | Friday, April 21, 2006 at 10:50 AM

The truth is that before the arrival of Joe T , Beth wouldnt have ever imagined that her actions and statements would ever be questioned by anybody on cable TV and she was at an advantage to say anything and everything she wanted to night after night and the THs were more than happy to add fuel to fire .

[kaycee77025]

There are 2 groups of true believers, one for and one against; and some people in the middle who want to find out what happened, looking for real proof and not trying to finish a murder mystery.
After 11 months everyone seems esconced in their place.
Posted by: kaycee77025 | Friday, April 21, 2006 at 10:37 AM

It is possible to want the truth and see justice served while still believing the finger of suspicion points to J2K.
Posted by: DennisAOK | Friday, April 21, 2006 at 10:46 AM
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They were the last known to be seen with her ...
I just don't think they are smart enough to get away with what would seem to be a perfect murder.
Who should we believe in this? J2K lied. Beth and friends have given as fact events that ALE has denied being true. Of course the police lied to J2K, it's what police do to get confessions; confessions they say never occurred. Supposedly there is a letter stating there is no evidence of a crime, period.

What are we left with?

[Mike]

"The truth is that before the arrival of Joe T , Beth wouldnt have ever imagined that her actions and statements would ever be questioned by anybody on cable TV and she was at an advantage to say anything and everything she wanted to night after night and the THs were more than happy to add fuel to fire ."

Come on Jack the ALE and the FBI were snooping around looking for info....One of the first things they always check are phone records especially in a missing persons case. This is LE 101

[wishwillie]

I read somewhere last year that Natalee had actually called home and told her mother that she was in love with a local young man who was blond with blue eyes. Joran has brown eyes. Geoffrey has blue eyes. Beth denied that she had spoken to her daughter, and her motive was unclear.

[wreck]

The truth is that before the arrival of Joe T , Beth wouldnt have ever imagined that her actions and statements would ever be questioned by anybody on cable TV and she was at an advantage to say anything and everything she wanted to night after night and the THs were more than happy to add fuel to fire .

Posted by: jack | Friday, April 21, 2006 at 10:54 AM
The truth is also that before JQK came aboard, nothing credible was happening in the investigation -- period. Back in October, KJ was writing letters to the US Justice department to see if Beth was related to Hitler!

[jack]

The truth is also that before JQK came aboard, nothing credible was happening in the investigation -- period. Back in October, KJ was writing letters to the US Justice department to see if Beth was related to Hitler!

Posted by: wreck | Friday, April 21, 2006 at 10:58 AM

I have to agree !

[Mike]

"KJ was writing letters to the US Justice department to see if Beth was related to Hitler!"

Thats a joke right :-)

[gab]

Phone call(s) or not
Fact remains a teen-age girl is missing in Aruba who was last seen with three Aruban locals leaving Carlos and Charlies and has been missing for almost a year
A phone call unless it is recent and from this missing teen is not going to change the disappearance!

[Mike]

"A phone call unless it is recent and from this missing teen is not going to change the disappearance!"

Or all the lies the suspects have given

[wreck]

KJ was writing letters to the US Justice department to see if Beth was related to Hitler!"

Thats a joke right :-)

Posted by: Mike | Friday, April 21, 2006 at 11:00 AM

No, not a joke -- absolutely true -- Greta had actual letter last night.

[jack]

Come on Jack the ALE and the FBI were snooping around looking for info....One of the first things they always check are phone records especially in a missing persons case. This is LE 101

Posted by: Mike | Friday, April 21, 2006 at 10:57 AM

I am talking about the MEDIA and not FBI or ALE. Maybe the FBI has the phone records and thats where Joe T got it from. In this bizarre case, what mattered more was what the public has been told rather than whats on the investigators' file. The FBI also knows things that have never been made public for instance regarding Natalee's daily routine of heavy drinking to the point of needing assistance as was revealed by the screenshots .

[Mike]

"No, not a joke -- absolutely true -- Greta had actual letter last night"

All I can say is unf..king believable. I wonder if thay can solve fender bender accidents down there.....can you imagine the head shaking at the Justice department when they reieved that letter?

[harold]

Supposedly there is a letter stating there is no evidence of a crime, period.

What are we left with?

Posted by: kaycee77025 | Friday, April 21, 2006 at 10:56 AM

trying to pretend again that the judge's order continuining joran as a suspect was based upon no evidence. come on, no one will believe anything you say now.

[jack]

trying to pretend again that the judge's order continuining joran as a suspect was based upon no evidence. come on, no one will believe anything you say now.

Posted by: harold | Friday, April 21, 2006 at 11:06 AM

no evidence apart from their lies .

[harold]

"No, not a joke -- absolutely true -- Greta had actual letter last night"

All I can say is unf..king believable. I wonder if thay can solve fender bender accidents down there.....can you imagine the head shaking at the Justice department when they reieved that letter?

Posted by: Mike | Friday, April 21, 2006 at 11:05 AM

sort of gives you an insight into the provincial outlook of Kaarin Jansen. she could count on her fingers and toes that Hitlers sister could not have an 18 year old daughter!

[Mike]

Sorry Jack....I was referring about how easy aphone called could have been proven or disproven by investigators.

I doult the FBI is sharing info with Joe T. , not standard practise for them to do that.