Natalee Holloway Update - Corruption Alleged

Previous reports have touched upon the possibility of corruption within the Dutch Justice system as regards the Natalee Holloway investigation.

Now reports from multiple sources in Aruba have suggested to me that that could be one of the ways the Holloway investigation unfolds. In various reports I've received and retained over time while seeking corroboration, several potentially key items have emerged.

Some allege that individuals at Joran's school who could speak to his demeanor and possible statements the day after Natalee Holloway disappeared were purposefully omitted from the investigation when what they had to say may well have been relevant.

Additionally, it has been alleged that Steve Cohen has stated that Joran Van Der Sloot was playing tennis either with him, or near him, the day after Natalee disappeared. It has been alleged that that alibi is false but no effort was made to expose it.

The significance of that potentially ties into recent statements by Dompig which suggest the body may have been dug up and moved after an initial burial. If Joran's whereabouts can not be accounted for that following day, it could have freed up enough time to participate in such activity. Also, note, Joran and Deepak were together at the casino that second night, yet Joran's own statements have indicated that he did not usually hang out with Deepak as a matter of course.

Some believe their being together that second night is, if nothing else, a bit curious. You may also recall that there was a controversy and shake up early on within the investigation.

More than one individual with knowledge of the investigation has suggested that there may well be substance to previous speculations of high level Dutch corruption with regard to the Holloway investigation.

Comments

[Truthinplainsite]

Good Morning Everyone -

This is probably just the TIP of the iceberg...how many other items were swept under the rug?

Dompig tracked all of the boats...did he look at any electronic records (phone, bank, email, cell, atm, cameras)?

Do they have the tape of Deepak and Joran in the casino the next night? That would be a video worth paying for...if it existed.

TIPS

[keylargogirl]

Oh, imagine that. HMMM. I think most of us have known that from the beginning. It is time to get the real answers from the dirty government of Aruba and bring Natalee Holloway home!

This whole situation has just screamed cover up from the very beginning, and that is why Beth is so angry and frustrated. She actually had to deal with the indifference and incompetance on a daily basis while there trying to locate her daughter. This family has been through hell, and a major boycott might just wake that happy little island up enough to finally TELL THE TRUTH!!

[RJ]

I have believed all along that the schools Headmaster, I believe his name is Robert Werner was helping to hide things in this investigation. His mother worked at the school they were all friends and he tried to play interference with the authorities. Someone needs to look into him a little closer.

[keylargogirl]

Rj,

I totally agree. I can't believe people can just lie and hide things when this poor family has been trying to find their missing daughter for almost a year now.
If found this is the case, these jerks should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, but oops, I forgot Aruba has their own laws and that probably isn't against the law there!!

[COLUMBO]

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/crime/63324

http://www.coffeepotghost.com/SHANGO_AND_SIMIAN.html

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 10:01 pm
***Arawaks (A.L.E.) often go to play in small houses of Babylon with the offspring of the Elders***

[COLUMBO]

The 'Lions'

http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/kouri/051019

[TJ]

This is BS story. Speaking of Steve Cohen: there are signs that Steve Cohen (AHATA), Paul Reynolds (Beth's brother), JQ Kelly and Beth HT and ALE try to nail the Van der Sloots.http://www.freedomofblog.com/view_topic.php?id=689&forum_id=29

[TJ]

I think Harry's scenario has to be researched by ALE instead of clowns like Steve Cohen, Jossy Mansur c.s. I thinks the truth is in Mountain Brook and nowhere else....

It is possible that a Dutch tourist was walking the sand dunes or somewhere and noticed something unusual ... after Natalee had been declared missing. I do not believe that there will be any new leads from before Carlos & Charlies.

To me, after reading of the results of the eddy current tests around the shoreline of Aruba, Natalee was exhumed, as Police Chief Dompig theorizes. Then, to me, she as encased within a 55-gallon drum and held in storage a while until things died down. When the activity lulled, Natalee-in-a-drum was taken out to international waters and submerged within the drum into the depths of the Caribbean Sea.

Who do I think did this? Natalee overdosed as Police Chief Dompig suggests; however, she did so in the presence of her classmates. The classmates, accompliced by their "drug courier," transported Natalee's body into the sand dunes. When the excitement was focused, the parents' of the classmates hired someone (possibly Texas EquuSearch) to exhume Natalee's body. It would have been a piece of cake for Texas EquuSearch to exhume the body and then transport to international waters for burial at sea. It was Texas EquuSearch that controlled all the searching in the early stages of the investigation. Our eyes and those of the cable news networks followed their focus. Simply, they clandestinely exhume and drum while the focus of the search concentrates in another area ... even an area created by distraction for the very purpose of the clandestine alternate activity.

Lastly, yes, I believe future generations in the 22nd Century will see us as equivalent to cave-dwellers. In this coming century, we will learn to appreciate the fourth dimension. We will debunk our romance with time. And, we will attend to our overpopulation problem. Those three accomplishments will vastly alter our perception of reality.

With Aloha,
# Posted by harry at 04/03/2006 11:14 pm - reply- forum

[COLUMBO]

that is a very amusing notion :)

[RJ]

A little creepy. I was just about to link the coffee pot site and someone beat me to it. What a trip that was. Totally scared the shit out of me!

[carol]

The idea that Texas EcuSearch had anything to do with Natalee is so ridiculous. Why would you think the kids from Alabama did this to their friend? You have a brain so use it. Dompig knows the truth. I hope he solves this case and soon!

[RJ]

TJ that sounds a bit ridiculous. The classmates and 50 gal drum thing I mean.

[RJ]

Hey Columbo. I like you have studied the Shango riddles. I think they do hold major clues. I also have some ideas on who Shango is. I did some historical research on Shango and Aruba and it is plausible this person knows what occured but cannot reveal who they are due to political ties and social ties to his (Shango's) children.

[Justice for Natalee]

Dave Holloway had a meeting with prosecutor Flanigan. She said she knew that the tennis playing alibi was false and urged authorities to follow up on it. They wouldn't. She became frustrated with the manner in which the investigation was being conducted--with little or no follow-up--and resigned early in the case.

[Truthinplainsite]

I still say the electronic records hold the "Key" to unlocking the case...what did we learn from the Deepak statement on June 9th?

1. His cell phone was out of credits.
2. He makes an "Outgoing" call after he got home.

If Dompig is doing his job, where is the timeline and the evidence they can track?

If Deepak's phone was out of credits, could he still recieve calls and text messages?

TIPS

[RJ]

Does anyone have any info on K2s stepdad? There was some talk about him early on and it just died with little info coming out.

[resorttownmom]

Something happened to Natalee. We don't know what, obviously. The real tragedy will be IF some day a girl is found on the streets SOMEWHERE who has been dead less than a day or two. Then the body is identified as Natalee. Alleging corruption is just an excuse for not looking for Natalee.

[Florida Patty]

Corruption???? hahahahhaahhah heeeeee hooooo
Gee!
Ya think? hahhahahahah

oh oh oh...hahahhahah oh my sides are aching!!!!

Sorry folks, I didn't make it past that first sentence.

Doesn't this case make you all feel like John Edward? Uri Geller? Jeanne Dixon? Sylvia Browne!!!

We're all getting so good at foreseeing the future.

[Florida Patty]

Okay, I'm sober now.

Remember early on, a few weeks after she went missing there were posts on here from islanders talking about how Joran was popping off at the mouth about having sex with her ("Joran gets all the girls" ) was what I remember most, and also that he was sleeping on the floor during class.

[XXX]

Natalee is dead, she died in Aruba on the night of May 30th, that may be the only part of the case that ALE has gotten right or will ever get right.

The level of farce in this 'investigation' has reached epic proportions with the police confiscating Deepak's car to do a 're-enactment' which is virtually pointless since just about everything that happened from C&C on is debatable, based on who you talk to and when...unless we're talking Rashamon type scenarios here there is no way to conduct a re-enactment of events that are ALL disputed...where are they going to go in the re-enactment? the beach? the VDS house? the lighthouse? somewhere else?

I would run out of bandwidth if I even attempted to list the errors, mistakes and mis-statements by the police along with the odd and coincidental relationships between many Aruban officials and the suspects.

If ever there was a case of where there is smoke there is fire, it is this one.

No police force could be this incompetant for this long by chance. It is impossible.

[harold]

TJ that sounds a bit ridiculous. The classmates and 50 gal drum thing I mean.

Posted by: RJ | Tuesday, April 04, 2006 at 10:48 AM

its more than ridiculous, anyone who claims such a vast multiparty conspiracy is certifiably a nutcase.
it was my pleasure to read as Harry jumped off the cliff with this one.

[COLUMBO]

"it is plausible this person knows what occured but cannot reveal who they are due to political ties and social ties to his (Shango's) children."

I'd suggest to you that the answer may be more significant:

Shango has not danced with the lions, nor Arawaks,and does not keep their company

Eyes of god may look from afar with great acuity (keenness of hearing, sight, *INTELLECT*).

Shango does not dance with the lions and looks from afar, viewing remotely with the third eye of god.
http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/kouri/051019

And who has the Elder SlanderFoot contacted in Babylon?
Hidden whispers, plans for the future.
OMERTA http://da_wizeguy.tripod.com/omerta/

Shango has spoken and looks from Oyo with third eye of god. http://home.hiwaay.net/~pspoole/echelon.html

All has been seen from afar
and whispered by olorum to an earthbound son

When olorum speaks, lesser gods listen
but do not ask how it is they hear (I'll say!)

For those who think Shango has danced with the lions
or walked the maze
they have not read diligently
Eyes of God see from afar
If ye have truth, ask not how it was begotten

[hardyandtiny]

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:45 pm
Shango is not limited to any location, orixas are his messengers

Shango says "Shango"? Shango speaks of Shango in second person?

Tiny says: Drive North and never stop, drive until your car's wheels are no longer on the ground and then look to the right.

[xxx]

Harry's posts on this case have become increasingly bizarre....the idea that he determined Natalee to be a drug abuser and an alcoholic based on her drinking for 4 days on vacation is totally absurd...as are most of his other 'insights' into the case.

And BTW, looks like Scuba was wrong again, Deepak is not getting his car back like she said.....

[COLUMBO]

How can one hunt for lions with fishing gear?
Time is the enemy of the cowboys
and friend to the Arawaks, the Babylonians, and the *hunted Jungle beasts*
http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/kouri/051019

[COLUMBO]

"ICE and the other federal agencies in Operation Caribbean Corridor — DEA, FBI and the US Coast Guard — are working together, efficiently and **intelligently** to stop the transshipment of drugs and **other contraband** in the Caribbean Basin," according to officials from ICE.

[Florida Patty]

Well I thought I would do some legwork here and go back in the files and pull some of the stuff we already knew.

Joran's history with the MB kids from the archives
as well as those first 24 hours after Natalie is known to be missing....from June 14, 2005 Riehl World View:
By now the seniors, save one notable exception were back in Atlanta and several received incoming calls from Aruba from Natalee's cell phone. Unfortunately, what some thought was the re-appearance of their missing friend turned out to be more questions about her disappearance from the chaperonee back in Aruba. Attempting to provide as much helpful information as possible the chaperonee was informed that the boy with whom Natalee left Carlos and Charlies was somewhat known to them for having had played poker with several of their male classmates during the course of the trip. They identified the local boy only as Joran.
The chaperonee later turned up at the casino asking questions about a boy named Joran. A poker room manager consulted existing lists and reports suggest that it was then that the boy in question was first identified as having a last initial of "V." A casino employee suggested asking questions of other hotel employees and taxi drivers, at least one of whom first identified the boy as being Joran Van der Sloot, son of Anita and Paulus Van der Sloot and an honor roll student at the International School who has been known to frequent the casinos, sometimes in the company of his Father.( snip)
continues>>Joran Van der Sloot appears to be a well known figure at the casino and an employee directed the group to a taxi driver said to be very knowledgeable as to comings and goings on the island. It was now approximately midnight.

The taxi driver provided more detailed information about Joran and the group decided to approach the police with the information they had gathered. After discussing the information with the local police, the group, accompanied by two officers headed to the Van der Sloot home. The officers honked the horn repeatedly every few minutes in front of the house prior to the emergence of Joran's Father at approximately 12:30 am.

(snip ) continued

The young Van der Sloot was not located in the casino. Soon thereafter, Joran Van der Sloot placed a call to his Father's cell phone and informed him that he was at home.

The entire group, including the police, headed back to the Van der Sloot home. They arrived to find Joran Van der Sloot and Satish Kalpoe, the younger of two brothers recently detained in the matter, leaning casually against what has been reported to be the grey car now impounded in the investigation.

The police set about questioning the two boys. They are said to have claimed at that time that the now missing Natalee Holloway did indeed leave Carlos And Charlies with them and the entire group went to the lighthouse area together prior to dropping Natalee back at her hotel. The boys also made additional claims consistent with other earlier reports
With Natalee's Mother said to have remained in the car, possibly out of the emotion involved in meeting two of the now three boys alleged to have been the last to see her daughter alive, others in the group including the Stepfather were present as the questioning continued for approximately an hour.

continued, go to date to complete this read.

[COLUMBO]

Operation Caribbean Corridor

Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 10:45 pm
All who enter the damned corridors of the houses of Babylon know the dangers that await

[harold]

oh, and btw, THANK YOU DAN, if no one else is going to thank Dan, he's the Man.

[NYMom]

Does this investigation seam like "Groundhog Day" to anyone else? I hope we see the light at the end of the tunnel and grant closure to the Holloway and Twitty families.

[harold]

oh, i dont know about closure. but it sure his quieted the clickety-clak boys on the inside blog.

[Florida Patty]

Wasn't that Taxi driver deported?

[Florida Patty]

Okay Columbo...step away from the brownies.

.........

The resurrection of Shango, holy cow! I'd forgotten all about the third eyed chap from Babylon. Plastic corridors indeed.

Tiny, that was funny! hee hee

[Florida Patty]

From his own mouth. Yup Dan, it does peak interest that he hung out with him two nights in a row.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

VAN DER SLOOT: Oh, he called me and — and — he called me from his work and he’s, like, Where are you? And I said, I’m at the Radisson with some friends, because I was there with some friends, playing poker. And he said, OK, I’m coming to you. And so then, yes, he came there.

VAN SUSTEREN: Had you ever hung out with him two nights in a row before?

VAN DER SLOOT: Two nights in a row? Never, really, because he works a lot and — yes.

VAN SUSTEREN: So this was — so when he called you the second night, on the night of the 30th, to meet you at the Radisson, that was something different, the two nights in a row where you guys were together.

http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/2006/03/03/joran-van-der-sloot-on-the-record-part-deux/

[XXX]

Joran's story, or should I say, stories, don't make sense and they never have.

He claims that both he and Natalee were relatively sober, yet he can't remember anything she said to him, can't remember much about the time they allegedly spent on the beach, and most shockingly, claimed not to recognize her photo or know her name when he simultaneously claimed to have spent at least an hour alone with her including a detailed discussion of sex w/or without a condom. PLEASE.

He has created not one, not two but possibly three FALSE ALIBIS, and if Dan's information is right, which I doubt, that would be false alibi number four for the day after Natalee's disappearance. Innocent people with nothing to hide but 'embarrassment' do not do this much lying. PERIOD.

He claims he wasn't a good friend of Deepak, but yet they had done 'this' at least 20 times, and apparently Satish and Deepak were good enough friends he would have us believe to chauffer him around the island, get out of bed to come back out and pick him up and EVEN go back to the beach to look for his shoes. And yes, he had never been out two nights in a row with Deepak, but coincidentally on the night after Natalee disappeared, which he knows nothing about, he's out again in the middle of the night with the very person he needs to be with in order to come up with a fake story to hide his embarressment over not committing any crime or doing anything wrong.

He says he wasn't scared in prison but was SO SCARED of disapproval for leaving Natalee, sober and fine and awake on a beach a few yards from her own hotel that he lied, got his friends to lie, they got someone else to lie...and he kept on lying even when the security guards were arrested. Yeah right.

He is a liar who has done nothing but lie about everything related to May 30th and he is still lying.

[mlskeens]

Why am I not surprised the information that Dan posted has come to light? I would love to know Dan's source of this information and what is really happening to correct the cover up. Who has the courage to uncover all the corruption and lies in this case?

[mlskeens]

Posted by: XXX | Tuesday, April 04, 2006 at 12:30 PM

I couldn't have said it better!

[cheri]

Oh geeze...back to this??

sad that her dad put Shango in the book...to me shango totally vindicates Joran, he is the "lamb">> used by the 'elders'.. ie van der stratten..but it is all a bunch of bull..
shango was a joke on the scared monkeys LOL

the "co author" of dave's book came on to the aol message boards a few months ago, all high handed, convicting joran etc, and expected people to bow down to her...what a sorry piece of work she is

Daves publisher garrison writes the dummy books, and takes 50% of the money generated on crime books like this...real jerks

this last ditch theory is sad and pathetic..want real police corruption look at poor Tara Grinstead...lots of LE involved there, that is truly sad..wish they put that on the air more than this natalee crap..

face it..this is going to be a cold case...last ditch efforts ...no proof..

MY feeling is that Joran left her on the beach..there are also locals bars/late bars in that area...I think she met up with someone after he left her

could have been a fisherman...did anyone check their boats that following morning? or could have been some locals...Steve croes?? or some visitors from south america 17 sea miles away

whatever, this is last ditch "corruption" crap that won't fly...no proof of anything...
nice try,no cuban cigar, cold case

I do hope someone is investigating the illegal booze parties in MB, at dorms in bama, and the restaurant that served Francis Ellen and the other girls booze...they are 18, 19 years old..that is what shocks me!

any idea which restaurant that is?? they should lose their liquor license

[Florida Patty]

XXX said:
but was SO SCARED of disapproval for leaving Natalee, sober and fine and awake on a beach a few yards from her own hotel that he lied, got his friends to lie, they got someone else to lie...and he kept on lying even when the security guards were arrested. Yeah right.

I said this very thing myself. What kind of a sicko father does he have if he is SO afraid of his father that he would LIE when two men are jailed and unofficially detained for suspicion of their involvement in a homocide because of what Joran told the police!!!! He's THAT afraid of his pop?
My next question would be so what does pop do to him when he doesn't approve of his son's actions?

[xxx]

I wish people would get off the MB and booze angle. GO visit every high school or college in this country and you are going to find under age drinking. Who cares? The drinking age should be 18 anyway, but my guess would be that about 90% of Americans have gotten drunk before their 21st birthday, a good portion having gotten drunk before their 18th birthday.

Innocent people simply don't lie as much or as long as Joran and K2 have, they have so far not even been able to provide a single legitimate, semi logical reason for lying in the first place...and they STILL DO NOT AGREE on their stories, which means that even today, one or all of them is still lying. This isn't panic, and this isn't an innocent person lying to stay out of trouble or protect themselves, this is the guilty lying to stay out of prison for what they did.

[Truthinplainsite]

XXX -

What is your theory? Where did they go and who was involved?

TIPS

[Florida Patty]

and this part:

VAN DER SLOOT: At the point, when I got that phone call, I was, like, you know, (DELETED) what if it’s that girl from last night, you know, the girl from the beach? That was my first reaction.

HERE WE GO..............

And you’re like, you know, what, you know what are you doing? Because it was — it was a normal — it was a normal thing for us to do, you know, go to our friends, go to the beach, talk to American tourists, you know, then go out with them and have a good time and, you know, nothing — nothing ever bad has ever happened. I mean it’s happened probably 20, 20 times nothing has ever gone wrong.

20 times and nothing had ever gone wrong. Yup, bubba it only takes one time for it to go really wrong!
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/2006/03/03/joran-van-der-sloot-on-the-record-part-deux/

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,186707,00.html

[lookin4info]

He claims he wasn't a good friend of Deepak, but yet they had done 'this' at least 20 times, and apparently Satish and Deepak were good enough friends he would have us believe to chauffer him around the island, get out of bed to come back out and pick him up and EVEN go back to the beach to look for his shoes. And yes, he had never been out two nights in a row with Deepak

Also, does anyone remember the story that the kids on the island thought that Deepaks' car was actually Jorans as he was seen in it all the time? Was the ever debunked?

[Sgt. York]

JORAN'S LIES

# Initially denies knowing Nat.

# Drove to lighthouse and then dropped her off at hotel (causing the investigation into a missing person to get off track from the start).

# Drove several places and evntually dropped her off at hotel last saw her with black security guard (causing arrest of two innocent men).

# Drove to Joran's house, K2s dropped Joran off alone and K2s drive off with Nat passed out in back seat.

# K2s dropped Joran and Nat at the beach. Nothing happened and Joran left her on the beach assleap. Deepak arrives and goes back to the beach... Joran thinks Deepak might have raped and killed her.

# K2s dropped Joran off at the beach with Nat. Nothing happened and he walked home... current version has Deepak driving him home.

======================

[xxx]

My theory, with it's many variables is this: The suspects went to the bar to pick up a drunk girl and have sex with her. Natalee was extremely intoxicated to the point of passing out shortly after she got in the car [don't have enough info. to determine how likely it is that she was unknowingly given a drug by the amigos], either way she fit the bill for what they had in mind. I believe they had done this kind of thing before, picking the drunkest girl and spiriting her out of the bar and having sex with her, with or without her consent. I also think its very likely they had drugged girls before in order to have sex with them.

They went to the VDS house, this is my best guess since Joran's story of going to his house but then not going in doesn't make any sense. One of the Kalpoes was not into the scene for whatever reason and went home, that is the only explanation for how someone was logged onto Deepak's computer around 2AM and why Joran would be making calls to Deepak. It was most likely that Deepak went home and Satish stayed out w/Joran. They raped Natalee while she was most probably unconscious or barely conscious. She died. Most likely she did die of some type of drug interaction, but its possible she was strangled to keep her quiet. We will never know.

After Natalee died, they panicked and called Deepak for help. I don't know exactly where they were when they called or how they got to the beach or lighthouse area, they may have taken one of the VDS cars or walked down, leaving Natalee somewhere else. The eight minute call w/Deepak explains to him the 'something bad' that happened and that they need help. They boys burried her body, somewhere probably near the pond/condo area where they were seen by the gardener, just as he said. They then split up, with Joran walking home and K2 driving back home.

I believe Paulus did not know his son was involved until he heard Joran and Deepak talking to the police on the first night and saw their reactions...he knew they were lying at that time.

I think Natalee's body was moved a second time, though where to, I don't know, but by the reactions of all the suspects she is not going to ever be found.

I believe that there was some limited help by the police in the first few days in protecting Joran and Paulus, in keeping the investigation off track w/the security guards and giving them all time to get their stories straighter and dispose of evidence.

The Aruban police know they can't solve the crime w/out a confession and they know that if the help that VDS received, even if it was only one or two people, ever comes out tourism there is DEAD. That is what they are hiding, it isn't to protect the suspects but to protect Aruba that they are now forced to botch the case again and again.

[anniekwa]

Thank you Dan. This is not surprising news. I think many have said this from the get-go, once it took 10 days to begin forensics on the homes of the boys. Sigh, but will this information make a difference to the HT family? Not likely. It still won't likely bring back Natalee to them. I only hope that they allow the FBI to test any remains that "suddenly" show up because I honestly could see these yokels trying to pass off someone else as Natalee and returning "her remains" to the family in order to keep their corruption downplayed.

[COLUMBO]

The resurrection of Shango, holy cow! I'd forgotten all about the third eyed chap from Babylon. Plastic corridors indeed.

Tiny, that was funny! hee hee

Posted by: Florida Patty | Tuesday, April 04, 2006 at 12:19 PM

BABYLON: http://www.wyndham.com/hotels/AUAPB/casablancacasino/main.wnt

[Kat_Gram]

A cover up ? You have to be kidding ! !
Gee, I think Dave Holloway just wrote a book on this topic !

Not on Aruba !

Listen, just because PVDs was a judge in training and knew Jan Van Der Stratten and everypone else in the ALE and the Justice Department and he would go to any lengths to
" protect " Joran, why would anyone suspect a cover up ! !

Wasn't there a cop car on the dunes that night ?

And if SHANGO knew anything, he /she would not be posting cryptic messages under a phony name ! ! SHANGO should go for the cashola ! !

[COLUMBO]

Shango not being resurrected.....everything he said in June is coming true

[Sgt. York]

ONE OF THE REASONS this investigation captured so much attention from the start was that it stunk from high-heaven. The son of a prominent member of the judicial elite is under investigation... Van der Straaten states, "How can I do this to my best Friend’s son?" and likely
deliberately obstructed justice in this case.

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