Interview With Cromvoirt Acquaintance

Though currently studying abroad, I was able to establish contact and do a brief phone interview with a young American girl acquainted with current detainee in the Natalee Holloway investigation, Geoffrey van Cromvoirt.

She is still somewhat shaken by news of his arrest, particularly as it was June 9th, 2005, the night Joran Van der Sloot and the two Kalpoe brothers were arrested, when she met GVC at Carlos and Charlies. She was able to provide the day of the week, Thursday, which matches with the night of the three boys arrests. After speaking with her, I've no reason to doubt her veracity.

GVC was alone at Carlos and Charlies that night keeping mostly to himself. She could only remember him saying hello to one other person passing by that night in the club. After some initial eye contact, it was she who approached GVC. He immediately appeared to open up.

One item of possible interest, he told her that he worked during the day taking tourists out on a Catamaran. While I have no way of ascertaining it was the same catamaran, I do recall photos taken by the Mountain Brook students showing that they did take such a trip.

GVC struck her as something of a self promoter, constantly talking about himself, his many connections and his family's supposed wealth. She also recalled seeing images of some famous individuals he had stored in his cell phone, noting that GVC did not appear with those people in said pictures. Still, he insisted they were friends.

On another night, she may have been less receptive to the seemingly brash young man, but she found him attractive, she was on vacation and the two eventually danced. She indicated that there were no drugs involved, though both were drinking. At some point, GVC offered her a ride to her hotel and a male friend of the young woman went along.

GVC did apparently brag about being involved with security, trying to exert some pressure on a hotel guard to acknowledge who he was. The guard apparently failed to acknowledge him in any significant manner. She believes he was driving a jeep at the time, possibly blue and that he also mentioned a recent or pending purchase of a truck, color unknown.

Back at her hotel, it was decided that he would leave behind his ID and possibly some other wallet contents with her friends as security before the two went back out alone together. They spent approximately a half an hour or so together, primarily on the beach. The only potentially unusual thing she noticed during their time on the beach was that he might have been a bit nervous, looking about - at one point claiming he saw a security guard coming. She could not see a guard.

After some time on the beach his cell phone started ringing but he did not answer it. She believes it rang several times in succession, possibly as many as seven times. When she inquired about the calls, he stated that it was his Mother and that he had to get home. He kept reiterating, he had to go. She was puzzled at this as she believed him to be 19 years old at the time.

After a night of being extremely talkative, mostly about himself, she did eventually ask him in a casual way about the Natalee Holloway case. She feels very strongly that it was at that point his demeanor significantly changed. He almost completely stopped talking while the two were walking, swiftly now, back to her hotel.

She asked a few different questions ... if he knew of the case, of those involved, what was it that he thought. But he did not answer any of those questions, or change the topic. He mostly just stopped talking at all. They returned to her hotel, a friend brought down his things and that was the last she saw of him until his recent arrest. She felt he all but took off running, likely related to the phone calls, as he left.

Later after leaving the island, the interaction did leave her with a strange feeling, mostly because of his sudden silence when the topic of Natalee Holloway came up. Unsure if it meant anything, or not, eventually she did call the FBI. She gave them what information she could as regards the encounter, much of which I have now relayed here.

It remains unclear what, if any connection GVC has to the Holloway case. But at least one individual who spent some time with the boy soon after the disappearance was troubled enough about his demeanor simply talking about the case to make a call to the FBI.

I have agreed to keep her identity secret.

Comments

[Wentworth]

Drug dealing by GVC IS related to NH case, this as per John Q Kelly Holloway attorney. This indicates that this guy was the one referred to by Domping that was supplying drugs to the MBers and NH. Significant that Kelly himself ties the drug charges to Natalee. Beth did you get that from you attorney?

[Wentworth]

danascully you are right; only BHT will never let go of that no matter what. She will go to her grave with that mindset. Steve Croes' attorney is representing GVC. Hmmm. You know Croes was so quick to take up for J2K and deflect it to the guards. Looks like it could have been to protect himself and GVC.

[jon]

Beth says on H&C and Rita tonite, she just talked to Natalee's closest friends on the trip, they never saw Natalee with GVC, Natalee never talked about him

[anniekwa]

Drug dealing by GVC IS related to NH case, this as per John Q Kelly Holloway attorney. This indicates that this guy was the one referred to by Domping that was supplying drugs to the MBers and NH. Significant that Kelly himself ties the drug charges to Natalee. Beth did you get that from you attorney?

Posted by: Wentworth | Tuesday, April 18, 2006 at 10:08 PM

Yes, but JQK also seemed pleased with the direction the case is going. I didn't get the feeling he felt Natalee bought drugs necessarily from this boy, but that that was the "tie" to her case. It could be that someone else bought drugs from him to drug her for all we know and that he knew it was for her.

[KAT_IS_DEVIL]

Yes Dennis AOK, I heard that it was his blood. The
security company was questioned and because there was no link to Natalee, that was the end of that.
I remember Karl Penhaul reporting on that at the time. It was found the 1/2 day that they gave to the government employees to search. Before J2K were arrested.

Geoff could not have gone to the polis station with drugs on him ? They don't say what drugs, how much, etc. Or how that came up.

[danascully]

Posted by: Wentworth | Tuesday, April 18, 2006 at 10:12 PM
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I'm with you, Wentworth!

[danascully]

Posted by: anniekwa | Tuesday, April 18, 2006 at 10:14 PM
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To me JQK on Greta tonight didn't seem quite so perky as he usually is! I think they are all shell- shocked by this arrest and are trying to put on a face by hyping it to their advantage, but I think this may be the undoing of their lawsuit against Joran.

Does anyone thing JQK looks like Mr. Burns on The Simpsons?

[Ruddy]

What I find strange:

Security truck same as the one doing the apparent crime scene cover up

New suspect's dad has access to tapes at H.I.

Kid is a beachbum although his parents keep him from looking like one.

Paulus at the table where N.H. is apparently pointing at Joran as too say "him'?

Joran lying along with the 2K.

Joran defensive manner with a woman whose daughter is missing in a strange country.

If the M.B. kids confess that N.H. was indeed at the H.I. after Joran left her on the beach then Joran and his dad are nothing more than stupid people....make that big-ass dummies!

I think there is a connection and I do believe the new suspect is involved....more than I thought earlier today.

[windy city]

Posted by: Wentworth | Tuesday, April 18, 2006 at 10:12 PM
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I'm with you, Wentworth!

Posted by: danascully | Tuesday, April 18, 2006 at 10:17 PM

Why the heck did the boys lie then?

maybe because the new suspects folks hold some power?

more than the vds's?

very strange developments

[Debra]

I think that when they say Natalie was seen with GVC, after Joran left...is earlier in the day. The MB girls ran into Joran in the casino, and asked where to go on Sunday night for fun.

By the way, Nats attorney just said that the t-shirt has nothing to do with the new events.

[danascully]

Posted by: windy city | Tuesday, April 18, 2006 at 10:25 PM
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I agree, Windy...very strange developments. But I think after that initial lie of "dropping her off at the HI" just snowballed into another one when Natalee didn't turn up like the boys thought she would. As for Joran saying Satish picked him up at the beach & Satish saying he didn't, ALE has since determined Satish DID pick up Joran. Unfortunate for their lies; maybe the investigation would have gone on to GVC at that point LAST year.

[Wentworth]

exactly right dana. the lies had to be explored and checked and cross checked with the eventual version that emerged. it sidetracked the investigation; now Im not saying that J2K isnt involved, I simply dont know at this point.

[wreck]

I thought JQK was cool, calm, collected and confident.

[truthbetold]

This is responsible blogging? We all saw this person post on here not a few hours before you post this. What have you done to determine this is credible? Why is it this girl is talking to you but not the ALE?

Posted by: meso | Tuesday, April 18, 2006 at 08:01 PM

I think she is full of it personally - why wait all this time to say something if it was so suspicious to her back then? everyone wants their 15 minutes of attention I guess and I don't blame Dan - he reports and checks as best he can on what people say - he can't strap em all to a polygraph

[Ruddy]

If he ran away, how did he get his credit card and D.L. back.

Some truth to the story but I think he was quite going back to the hotel because he was tired from the activity on the beach with this chick that has issues getting men.

He was done and just wanted to go home or
He knew he would lose points with fellow pimps if he took her to a Rave party.

That is what happen to the deadguy in the cave, he presented a "ho" at the cRave party and that really pissed off the elders.

[justicefornatalee]

John Kelly confirmed ( Greta's show) that two more arrests are expected.

Does anyone think Steve Croes will be one of them?

[chloe]

John Kelly confirmed ( Greta's show) that two more arrests are expected.

Does anyone think Steve Croes will be one of them?
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I heard or read earlier today that in Aruba rumor was going around that there were going to be two more arrests of "beach" people.

[Skye]

I thought JQK was cool, calm, collected and confident.

Posted by: wreck | Tuesday, April 18, 2006 at 10:52 PM

I agree.

[DennisAOK]

Steve Croes is next, then Michael Dompig, Gerold's son.

[KAT_IS_DEVIL]

I vote in this order :
Steve Croes for sure
Satish Kalpoe
Deepak Kalpoe
Joran VDS

I don't know where Michael Dompig fits into this at all.

[exilesanctuary.com]

It does appear by her performance on H & C tonight, Beth is having a hard time letting go of Joran BEING the perp & can't even entertain the thought that GVC MIGHT be it. Why is that? Her goal should be just to see the culprit(s) be nailed for her daughter's disappearance. By the looks of her face if there is something to this new arrest, she might have to have some "let-go-of-Joran" counseling.

Posted by: danascully | Tuesday, April 18, 2006 at 10:05 PM
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Scully,

She has had a year to cultivate a fierce hatred to the VDS's. That's not going to be instantly neutralized.

No matter what Beth and Dave think, or how tragic their loss has been, no young person should be forced to forfeit his freedom based on hunches, dislike of him, and strong prejudices. That's not their doing, as much as the media egging them on, empowering their crusade because it makes for good entertainment.

The public has seen this type of witch hunt before. Remember Richard Jewell, who was so hated, that even after being exonnerated, his life was horribly altered? The media virtually ignored him after he was found to be just an innocent bystander.

By then, he had the creep factor tattooed on him, albeit by the same unethical slick celebrities who spin the news.

I just watched Greta, and it was nauseating to hear the garbage that Jim Hammer, Bernie Grimm and Mark Fuhrman vomited out concerning this development. They smugly tied this new suspect to the other three suspects, without one single clue or piece of corroborating evidence.

It's hard to believe that these unscrupulous and rotten talking head-cases were once lawyers, considering their eagerness to endlessly persecute and preach hate about a teenaged boy. I think Bernie Grimm was a defense attorney, too. What a jerk.

It's one thing for an emotional mom and dad to react strongly, but, there's no excuse for so-called ex-lawyers, and pseudo-journalists, to spew endless garbage every night to millions of viewers.

I confess that Beth is not my hero, but, she is a mom. She lost a daughter, and she can hate the world, act like a beyotch, and be forgiven...

These jackasses on television, are unjustified in putting out dubious propaganda, perverting justice, corrupting the news, and causing millions of people to form a bias against a suspect, who has not had the privilege of having his case heard in court.

When the suspect is an 18 year old boy, honor student, athlete, loved brother, son, and friend, it is even more sickening. I hope nothing like they've put the van der Sloots through happens to them, and they are forced to watch rich creeps laughing like hyenas while condemning their kid, with flimsy evidence, acting like cheerleaders for their kid's public lynching. It must be nice to get paid so much to be that evil and without a conscience.

Actually, I almost wish something like this would happen to them, and they're forced to live the nightmare they've put this Dutch family through this past year.

[KAT_IS_DEVIL]

Because JQK would not say yes or no if Natalee
knew Geoff, perhaps the MB kids including Natalee met him when they went snorkelling / sailing.

[Wentworth]

ANd katwoman you dont know where J2K fits in either but if you had the chance you'd flip the switch on all em. narrow minds like yours are what prejudice was born from. find granny toad and eat some flies.........

[Wentworth]

connection=dope deals. Coke, its the real thing

[moxiemom]

I think this comes closest to the truth so far. Please keep posting, MD, because your posts make the most sense.

PAULUS IS THE PERPETRATOR....

Tacopina is planting news in the NY Post, Aruba is creating a phoney shill.

Its as simple as this:

J2K kidnapped the girl for Paulus
All three have their way with her
J2K give girl to Paulus
Girl refuses Paulus' advances
Paulus kills girl
Paulus goes to ATM
Paulus calls his buddies at the security company
Paulus asks for big favor
GVC told to dispose of the body by his dad
GVC chops up body on mattress getting DNA on mattress and Shirt
Sloppily, GVC discards shirt, sunglasses and cleaning materials
Sloppily, GVC does a poor job of disposing of body
Daddy's company must come in and recover and move the body (see Chicago video)
GVC is haunted by his participation in this.
GVC is the witness who called Dompig stating he cannot take it anymore.
GVC is the one who told of the burial in the Dunes (yes, the famed painted rocks area).
Aruba brings him in and charges him with drug dealing....and...they will be charging him with drug dealing & murder....if he doesn't "sing".
Further pressure placed on J2K/PAULUS with the release of Paulus hitting on Natalee at the casino.
GVC is currently singing.

Don't buy what Taco is saying. Its a deflection to get his client out on a technicality. The timing of which GVC was arrested appears to be a last ditch effort to clear Joran. Joran is the buffer for the true perpetrator - PAULUS.

Tired of following this case, but will continue to do so as it is so fascinating to see how a government executes a cover-up...I also feel the cover-up is beginning to unwind. Should be fun!

md

Posted by: minnesota dad | Tuesday, April 18, 2006 at 09:39 PM

[danascully]

Posted by: exilesanctuary.com | Tuesday, April 18, 2006 at 11:37 PM
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Couldn't have said it better, exilesanctuary!!Thanks for being my voice!

[meso]

Thing that bothers me is people sticking up for Joran under the pretense that hes innocent all while they slander Beth and or Natalee under what pretense? How can some people not have a little compassion for a woman thats lost a daughter but instead have this compassion for a kid that regardless, guilty or not, is a suspect and has lied out of his teeth about the missing (most probably dead) daughter of this mother. Had the kid you have all this compassion for just simply escorted this girl back to her hotel as any gentleman would he could have avoided all this. Sorry I just cant feel sorry for the guy regardless if hes guilty or not he brought all of this on himself starting with leaving an intoxicated girl alone on the beach at 3am and subsequently leading the police on a wild goose chase that to this day still hasn't been straightened out.

Nope I just can't bring myself to feel sorry for the kid.

[getalife]

Haha, suddenly Dave book theories are useless...
What a joke after all this Aruba bashing.

Arubian lawyers are talking about 650 million compensation damage.
This is just the beginning. Imagine the compensation for the Boycott alone ...

JUST KEEP CONTINUE MESSING AROUND FOOLS...

[GSPatton]

Actually, I almost wish something like this would happen to them, and they're forced to live the nightmare they've put this Dutch family through this past year.

Posted by: exilesanctuary.com | Tuesday, April 18, 2006 at 11:37 PM

You are one compassionate MF'er

Nightmare?

Maybe you & the VDS family should endure losing a child.

Be careful what you wish upon others.

[wreck]

JUST KEEP CONTINUE MESSING AROUND FOOLS...

Posted by: getalife | Wednesday, April 19, 2006 at 12:26 AM

-- just keep "whistling past the graveyard." The truth IS coming out. There will be MANY involved.

[GSPatton]

Getalife,

You said it yourself. Dave's ideas are nothing more than "theories"

Nothing more

You should "get some education"

Are you are convinced of GVC's guilt? I'm not. I'll give this guy the benefit of doubt just like many have given J2K. I'm also not convinced that ALE isn't corrupt.

[Betty]

Exilesanctuary, You did it again. A great post. Alot of good sound advice for all of the Juran, Deepak and Satish haters. I hope this case will be solved, and I do agree there are many more people involved, and things are starting to unravel now. I don't see how anyone in their right mind can condem someone without a court and jury!

[getalife]

I don't like to spread rumors but, this guy is a suspect with probable forensic evidence...

[GSPatton]

Question for the J2K supporters

Arlene stated tonight that Steve Croes (Mr False Alibi) is a friend GVC.

Steve Croes put himself in the crosshairs by providing a false alibi for J2K.

Joey Taco says Joran doesn't know GVC. (Joran also stated the Kalpoes weren't his "friends")

Now, why would Steve Croes provide an alibi for guys he didn't know (especially if his friend GVC was involved)?

It would be in GVC's best interest if J2K was arrested. This would lead ALE away from him.

UNLESS......GVC, Steve Croes, & J2K are friends and possibly connected to Natalee's disappearance.

[chloe]

Question for the J2K supporters

Arlene stated tonight that Steve Croes (Mr False Alibi) is a friend GVC.

Steve Croes put himself in the crosshairs by providing a false alibi for J2K.

Joey Taco says Joran doesn't know GVC. (Joran also stated the Kalpoes weren't his "friends")

Now, why would Steve Croes provide an alibi for guys he didn't know (especially if his friend GVC was involved)?

It would be in GVC's best interest if J2K was arrested. This would lead ALE away from him.

UNLESS......GVC, Steve Croes, & J2K are friends and possibly connected to Natalee's disappearance.

Posted by: GSPatton | Wednesday, April 19, 2006 at 12:40 AM

i agree. i heard that Joran and this kid are same age and went to school together and that of course they knew each other. why the denial then? like you said, just like denying he was friends with the Kalpoes. He denies/lies when he fears it will signal his involvement.

[getalife]

I do believe that this guy most probably acted alone and that one of his best friend (Dompig son) did become suspicious of him.

[harold]

i dont fall for her story. this is just more in a subtle way of the same old tired theme of
"blame anybody but Joran" imo

btw, where is Booty, his diversion from Joran lasted about two days, lets see how long
Cromvert is able to distract you.

then, the next two arrests with the "blame anybody but Joran" theme will be the final diversion
and hopefully you will be soooo confused that you and the public will forget about the case. imo.

cohen has a fantasy that you will all dry up and blow away.

[TYLER]

Now, why would Steve Croes provide an alibi for guys he didn't know (especially if his friend GVC was involved)?

It would be in GVC's best interest if J2K was arrested. This would lead ALE away from him.

UNLESS......GVC, Steve Croes, & J2K are friends and possibly connected to Natalee's disappearance.

Posted by: GSPatton | Wednesday, April 19, 2006 at 12:40 AM

You may be right GSP . Its certainly possible that a whole bunch of these guys are involved one way or the other and the recent arrest will hopefully answer that question very soon.

On the other hand , if Steve Croes was involved or has crucial information about the case AND J2K are not involved perhaps Steve's behavior could be explained by his guilty conscience trying to protect an innocent person while covering his own ass at the same time.

I personally feel that Steve Croes is innocent of any crime but suspect that he knows a lot more . He could prove to be the missing piece in this jigsaw puzzle , just speculating.

However

[harold]

Actually, I almost wish something like this would happen to them, and they're forced to live the nightmare they've put this Dutch family through this past year.

Posted by: exilesanctuary.com | Tuesday, April 18, 2006 at 11:37 PM

hopefully some day you may experience what the twittys have gone through. Grow up. imo

[GSPatton]

I do believe that this guy most probably acted alone and that one of his best friend (Dompig son) did become suspicious of him.

Posted by: getalife | Wednesday, April 19, 2006 at 12:52 AM

More arrests are rumored

I don't believe he acted alone. Too young...this was a group effort.

The culprits "disappeared" Natalee too well. It was either a group, professionals, or ALE has covered for them.

[wreck]

JQK said tonight there is NO forensic evidence on the "security guard shirt" -- neither GVC's NOR Natalee's. He said he was brought in on a combination of Narcotics AND his own "chatter" in regards to Natalee Holloway. He also said it "was more than just a gut feeling" that at least 2 more arrests were coming.

[hobo]

Minnesota Dad, you have had some great posts in the past, but this time you outdid yourself with the theory. Don't slow down or stop posting.

[GSPatton]

Tyler,

You could be right. I don't know Steve Croes. He may be a jolly, card-holding member of Mensa. I've had as much suspicion of him as I have J2K. Aruba is a small island. I find it hard to believe GVC & Joran weren't friends. Both of them are Dutch and about the same age. Who knows? Maybe Joran & GVC disliked each other. They both seem to fashion themselves as young playboys. Instead of "running" together, they could have been in competition for the tourist girls.

[GSPatton]

Wreck,

You realize that JQK's word is not good enough for some here.

Now if Joey T had said.....LOL

[punkingale]

"Curious" posted a link on RWV about GvC images. There's a few pictures of GvC & Joran. Very interesting. Someone needs to tell Joe Taco. It's the photobucket link. Just click on.

[TYLER]

JQK said tonight there is NO forensic evidence on the "security guard shirt" -- neither GVC's NOR Natalee's. He said he was brought in on a combination of Narcotics AND his own "chatter" in regards to Natalee Holloway. He also said it "was more than just a gut feeling" that at least 2 more arrests were coming.

Posted by: wreck | Wednesday, April 19, 2006 at 01:00 AM

I didnt watch the show. I read that he said that the shirt was not the cause of arrest. Did he imply that forensic results (if done) came out negative or that the shirt was not looked at all ?

[TYLER]

They both seem to fashion themselves as young playboys. Instead of "running" together, they could have been in competition for the tourist girls.

Posted by: GSPatton | Wednesday, April 19, 2006 at 01:07 AM

well that seems to be the popular pastime of all youngsters in Aruba !

[GSPatton]

well that seems to be the popular pastime of all youngsters in Aruba !

Posted by: TYLER | Wednesday, April 19, 2006 at 01:12 AM

I can't argue with that (as long as it doesn't involve drugs & rape)

I knew there was a reason I hate those little ba$%ards!!! LOL

[anniekwa]

I didnt watch the show. I read that he said that the shirt was not the cause of arrest. Did he imply that forensic results (if done) came out negative or that the shirt was not looked at all ?

Posted by: TYLER | Wednesday, April 19, 2006 at 01:10 AM

He said that there was nothing forensically on the shirt that tied the shirt to GVC or Natalee.

[KAT_IS_DEVIL]

JQK said " arrested " not " re arrested ".
JQK wouldn't say if Natalee " knew " GVC.

One of the first things that came out of Aruba was
that Natalee left C & C's with a local drug dealer.
That was in the email warning from a friend of a chaperone.

Someone saw her with Deepak leaving C & C's.

The MB kids went to C & C's the first night and the last night.

Someone posted a picture of Michael Dompig and remarked how much he looked like Deepak.

GVC is not a suspect in a murder.

No one has connected the dots to Deepak / Satish to drugs.

HMMMM.