Holloway Detainee To Be Held For Eight Days

via CNN

The 19-year-old man, identified publicly only by the initials G.V.C., was arrested Sunday. He is scheduled to appear Tuesday before a judge, Aruban prosecutors said in a written statement.

The youth is not necessarily a suspect in Holloway's disappearance, but Aruban law allows authorities to hold someone without charges for questioning with a judge's approval.

Some cable news I have heard in the case, most notably on Fox, continues to poorly report this story. Several allegedly informed talking heads were commenting as to what an outrage it would be if this boy was let go because nothing turned up. The fact is, it could be that nothing will.

Under Dutch law an arrest like this is on par with someone simply being questioned in the US. Except that the Dutch system gives the police much more leverage as to how the individual can be detained. The Fox heads I heard were acting like this was the arrest of a suspect, as far as anyone knows, it never has been.

Sadly, it only goes to further prove the relatively uninformed, or truly uninterested talking heads they often employ. You would think after this amount of time, they might at least study up a bit on Dutch law. But, why do that? When it's so much easier to remain ignorant and simply inflame.

Comments

[windy city]

Lets hope the ALE was playing dumb like a fox. I don't think anyone saw this coming.

[Shari]

I'd bet my bottom dollar they all connect to this case. Thanks for the update.

[DennisAOK]

Doesn't the threshold of suspicion rise with each successive detainment? Seventy two hours in the cooler for almost nothing; eight days for more; a month for still more; etc. So, we know there's at least eight days worth of suspicion here. More than that we cannot say.

[Gimme a Break]

we just want honest answer's no matter the outcome or whoever is involved Someone please tell the truth

[Sgt. York]

RE: "Lets hope the ALE was playing dumb like a fox."

Huh?

You would have thought, given an entire year, they would have been able to frame the town drunk... assuming the town drunk isn't related to Dompig or the son of a prominent member of the judicial elite. This whole case stank from day-one because it was obvious they were protecting one of their own.

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[Sgt. York]

RE: "Someone please tell the truth"

"I never met her. I don't know anybody by that name. That's the truth." - Joran.

[windy city]

RE: "Someone please tell the truth"

"I never met her. I don't know anybody by that name. That's the truth." - Joran.

Posted by: Sgt. York | Monday, April 17, 2006 at 05:35 PM

"I lied about all those other stories, and thats the truth"

[Sgt. York]

RE: "I lied about all those other stories, and thats the truth"

Dead on. Greta even asked about his accusation that Deepak raped and killed Natalee and he admitted to Greta that it was yet another lie.

"I woudn't believe me either." - Joran

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[truthbetold]

oh for goodness sakes - how can anyone complain that it would be such a sin to let this person go? in the u.s. they would not even be able to hold someone without charging them and each one of you know that - the same people crying that there is a cover up and on and on and on would be flipping their wigs screaming about civil rights and so on if one of their loved ones or friends was held in jail with no charges or eveidence besides being the last known person to see someone much less being held for months on end, released, and then rearrested, then sued for money - if this guy knows something, then great! But my instincts tell me this is just more pressure put on aruba's law enforcement to arrest someone...anyone for this case that we don't even know is a crime yet.....yes aruba le made alot of mistakes, sure they did but I now chalk that up to inexperience with anything like this and lack of proper training not corruption and covering for anyone - natalee holloways mother, stepfather, and the rest of that clan did enough damage on their own and alinated so many people that nobody at this point would tell anything even if they did know it - if this boy is released then so be it - they can't just hold him forever with nothing.

[xxx]

The problem is, we have no idea WHY they are holding him in the first place.

Joe Tacipino makes it sound as if he is the killer and his father doctored up the holiday inn tapes to eliminate footage of him with Natalee...a pretty strong insinuation.

Then we have the bloody t shirt from a year ago.

Then we have the reports...most probably the true ones, that he was picked back up based on some kind of inconsistent statement plus new information from the Dutch TV show.

People have simply gone crazy here. Half the people are convinced he's going to roll over on the amigos and the other half are convinced he's going to be the "smoking gun" evidence to prove on and for all that this whole thing was a big lie and cover up by Beth and Mountain Brook.

And we should know by now that the judge allowing them to hold him for eight days means exactly NOTHING, since the SG were in jail for longer than that.

I would love it if this is a break in the case, but I don't belive it, I think it is much more likely simply more random activity by the ALE in the hopes that they get lucky and actually arrest someone who IS related to Natalee's disappearance.

[windy city]

truth,
You are comparing apples and oranges. diffrent country and diffrent laws. I think people are suspicious because of all the connections between the suspects and ale. Not to mention the way the case has been mis-managed.

[bama]

This is an absolute outrage! I want Joran and the Kalpoes to go down for this, they did it! Why don't they interrogate Joran and the Kalpoes more? They will crack I guarentee you. Down with them up with Dave Holloway!

[nelson]

Oh Bama please get over it allready

[val]

where did the bloody t-shirt come in. i only read about forensic evidence on a t-shirt.

[wreck]

FOX is calling him a "suspect" because they are listening to Joe T. Just like you, Dan.

"Holloway / Van Der Sloot Update
Sources who claim to have been in contact with the Van Der Sloots have informed me that Joran Van Der Sloot does not know the individual recently arrested in the Holloway investigation."

[xxx]

I think this case has finally jumped the shark.

We are now going to have a million TH...Joe Tacopino, Julia, Jossy, Dave and Beth all talking about NOTHING.

None of them know why this guy was arrested, so every show tonight is going to be nothing but recycled heresay...no facts, no new information, just spin from everyone.

Joe wants this kid to be the killer to get suspicion off his client.

Dave and Beth want this kid to roll over on Joran and K2....

And now we have all kinds of crazy speculation that this is the Dutch blue eyed guy Natalee 'fell in love with' which again is all based on a statement that is DISPUTED...

I truly believe everyone really has forgotten about the blonde girl who should be at a U of Alabama frat party but who is instead almost certainly burried in an unmarked grave somewhere.

Everyone wants a piece of the action, the media wants ratings, the blogs want blood, either the family/MB blood or the suspects' blood, Tacopino wants his client exonerated, Kelly wants Joran convicted...

[TYLER]

I truly believe everyone really has forgotten about the blonde girl who should be at a U of Alabama frat party but who is instead almost certainly burried in an unmarked grave somewhere.

Everyone wants a piece of the action, the media wants ratings, the blogs want blood, either the family/MB blood or the suspects' blood, Tacopino wants his client exonerated, Kelly wants Joran convicted...

Posted by: xxx | Monday, April 17, 2006 at 06:18 PM

Well said xxx !

[Pearly]

if this new perp of the week and one day says Natalee was a drunken slut that wanted him but he didn't have a condom, he's our man! heh

[annie]

Thanks for asking and answering the question re the blue eyes.

Does he also drive a white jeep??

[Arubaanse]

I'm giving up...I am just going to wait for the movie to come out.

[xxx]

Yeah, Rashamon Aruba style is the only way they could do it at this point.

[iwabwu]

Did JoeT mention if PvdS knew the father of this suspect?

[iwabwu]

I truly believe everyone really has forgotten about the blonde girl who should be at a U of Alabama frat party but who is instead almost certainly burried in an unmarked grave somewhere.

Everyone wants a piece of the action, the media wants ratings, the blogs want blood, either the family/MB blood or the suspects' blood, Tacopino wants his client exonerated, Kelly wants Joran convicted...

Posted by: xxx | Monday, April 17, 2006 at 06:18 PM

I agree. Well said. Does it matter about blue eyes? Where is the girl? Return her to her family. JMHO.

[Justice for Natalee]

According to Dutch media, the blood on the shirt is GVC's own blood.
It is the shirt found last June.

[wreck]

According to Dutch media, the blood on the shirt is GVC's own blood.
It is the shirt found last June.

Posted by: Justice for Natalee | Monday, April 17, 2006 at 06:58

Back when this shirt was found (June 6th) -- if it had ANY blood on it -- why did they not trace it down and get ANSWERS? It had the Company name on it -- very simple and ROUTINE. There were "styrofoam with teethmarks" and Lysol found along with it???? They did not think this was something to pursue further? Hell, on June 6th they still had 2 "SECURITY GUARDS" in jail!

To me it screams "cover-up" from the get-go. Now that the Dutch are re-evaluating all evidence back to square one -- maybe THEY are the ones to finally pursue this lead. Now, we need to find out who "ignored" this evidence from the beginning and WHY?

[Arubaanse]

We don't know nothing yet....gee, I don't believe nothing coming out of the media! I don't care if it's Dutch/Aruban/US Media. Nobody said anything about bloody t-shirt and nobody knows what this guy did..

[xxx]

This case has been so agenda driven it is now worthy of being analyzed by a social anthropologist.

Entire 'communities' have been created for the sole purpose of advancing different views on this case...slamming the family and Mountain Brook and promoting the innocence of the suspects or protecting Natalee's good name and slamming the suspects as guilty.

Every piece of evidence is analyzed and used to further whatever agenda...the new suspect was Natalee's 'love interest' and he killed her in a rage [oh really?]...he played soccer with Joran and Joe Tacopina has just lost his mind when he says Joran didnt' know him [doubtful], now there are allegations of 'missing video' bloody t shirts, 'forensic evidence' and more cover up.

While the new suspect is certainly cute enough to be a vacation fling, I can't figure out why, if this was Natalee's love intereste in Aruba did she leave the bar with Joran after talking with him for a half an hour? Oh yeah, she was a ho, that must be it...couldn't be that the vacation love story just doesn't really add up...wouldn't she want to spend her last night with Mr. Blue Eyes?

Until Aruban police prove me wrong, my belief is they are grasping at straws hoping that god takes pity on them and they might finally pull the right one by accident.

I don't think this guy is going to lead anywhere more than Freddie and Jamie did...more suspicions without evidence.

He obviously hasn't confessed anything or we would have heard it.

[hardyandtiny]

anyone know if the styrofoam and lysol bottle have something to do with getting a cheap high?

[Arubaanse]

anyone know if the styrofoam and lysol bottle have something to do with getting a cheap high?

Posted by: hardyandtiny | Monday, April 17, 2006 at 07:26 PM

Hey my friend!

[getalife]

I just get more respect for ALE in Aruba as they did not bow to any intenational demands and pressure specially from Dave and Beth, including the Alabama boycott etc etc.

You just cannot sentence anybody based on rumours and without hard evidence in Aruba.

It looks more promising now and I hope Dave and Beth let them do their job and again please stop interfering with an ongoing police investigation.

The damage has been done....

[scubajap]

The problem is, we have no idea WHY they are holding him in the first place.

Joe Tacipino makes it sound as if he is the killer and his father doctored up the holiday inn tapes to eliminate footage of him with Natalee...a pretty strong insinuation.

Then we have the bloody t shirt from a year ago.

Then we have the reports...most probably the true ones, that he was picked back up based on some kind of inconsistent statement plus new information from the Dutch TV show.

People have simply gone crazy here. Half the people are convinced he's going to roll over on the amigos and the other half are convinced he's going to be the "smoking gun" evidence to prove on and for all that this whole thing was a big lie and cover up by Beth and Mountain Brook.

And we should know by now that the judge allowing them to hold him for eight days means exactly NOTHING, since the SG were in jail for longer than that.

I would love it if this is a break in the case, but I don't belive it, I think it is much more likely simply more random activity by the ALE in the hopes that they get lucky and actually arrest someone who IS related to Natalee's disappearance.

Posted by: xxx | Monday, April 17, 2006 at 05:55 PM
For once XXX we are in total agreement. I just got off the phone with the AP reporter and everything that is being said on TV has no substantiation, including the security company having access to the tapes as the HI is NOT on their client list. Marriott, The Grande and the Bucuti use their services, but NOT the HI.
So really, I suggest everyone calm down, ignore the TV and rely on the AP reports for facts, as they will not release ANYTHING without authorized confirmation. All the rest is speculation. Even the CNN report, as he has not gone before the judge of instruction as yet, they have probably only been reassured that GvC will most likely be helf for another 8 days, but until tomorrow, it is not a fact as yet.

[FloridaPatty]

Nancy Grace rolling with this one as a lead story. Dave's on there and is optimistic that there is some development in the case wherein the past there hasn't been much. Talking about the 60 tips that came in as a result of the BVN Dutch reinactment.

Jossy is back.

[TJR]

Scubajap: Thanks for that information. Based on your post, it seems clear to me that Joran’s lawyer is putting his own spin on the situation when he implied on TV today that GVC’s dad’s security company was somehow responsible for the so-called “missing casino tape" that allegedly shows Natalee with GVC. I get the impression that he is trying to do the same thing to GVC that the American press is accused of doing to Joran.

As far as the 8 day detention is concerned, I believe Arlene was partially responsible for the confusion when she stated on TV today (either Fox or MSNMC) that GVC was to be held an additional 8 days as a suspect, and not as a witness. I agree with you. Let’s wait and see what develops.

[NotABasher]

Last I HEARD today was at least 100 tips have come in. Word has it that this kid has been bragging about knowing what 'really' happened that night. That is why he being detained. Maybe he will break and who knows who will be implicated. I do not know why you Dan are always so down on Fox but you need to get over it. Let them do their jobs !
I suppose you want them to say all the bad things YOU and your remaining negative posters (the bashers and trashers of Beth, Dave, & Natalee and their family and friends) say just to apease yourselfs. You are pathetic. GET OVER IT ALREADY !

[KAT_IS_DEVIL]

Joe T. / Anita says that Joran doesn't know this kid.
That should be good enough for the ALE, eh ?
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Scuba, he has blue eyes and he is Dutch... that should be good enuf for you.
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[gemebwai]

Since GVC has not appeared before the judge of instruction, the 8 day order has not been given. Probably a statment was misunderstood (of wronly presented, knowing the person doing it), more likely is that the DA wants to extent the detention and the judge of instuction will decide tomorrow. Since monday is a public holliday, I would not expect a judge order on this day.
During the hearing tomorrow (closed I'm sure), SVC's lawyer will probably for the first time hear the reason his client is detained. According to Dutch law someone can be detained only if there is at least a "reasonable suspicion of a crime being commited", contrary to some comments SVC might be helt only as a wittnes.

[xxx]

I am more likely to find the holy grail in my basement that ALE is to solve this case.

I doubt I could even list the rumors that have been debunked and continue to circulate, the false information, the malicious information and the conflicting information.

Who says he was bragging about knowing what really happened to Natalee?? Geraldo? I mean, he is about as credible as Joe Tacopina, which is to say, not too credible.

What ever happened to Art Wood's tape/transcript of the jailhouse conversation that hinted at guilt? Did that go by the wayside as well??

[wreck]

What a night for Rita to be pre-empted! Maybe we will see a report later on tonight. She has some 'splainin' to do.

[punkingale]

Since this new arrest, the word out of Mountain Brook is Joran's going down!!

[punkingale]

Joe Taco was just on Larry King Live with Star Jones. Someone needs to remind him that Joran is still a suspect, not a former suspect like he seems to think!!!

[scubajap]

Scuba, he has blue eyes and he is Dutch... that should be good enuf for you.
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Posted by: KAT_IS_DEVIL | Monday, April 17, 2006 at 08:54 PM

what does that mean?
I imagine it might be significant to Vanity Fair, as they printed it.
Actually, I always thought the blue eyed boy was someone else.
We will see tomorrow what's what.

What a presumptuous statement Kat. you know nothing about me and how I feel about this situation. Have you even been reading my posts? I am about the only one here that keeps saying stop jumping to conclusions AND debunking what is being said by Joe T.
You have not even the remotest idea of what I think of this development, or if you REALLY read my posts, you would. I think this entire frenzy over this arrest is way out of proportion to what it may mean. The police have released only the information that has been published by the AP and THAT'S ALL. Far from conclusive. Which I have just said about 10 times here and at FOB. Don't suppose to know what I think of this until you talk to me face to face.

[xxx]

Joe should really try and stick with one story.

Last week, Natalee was back at the Holiday Inn, standing in the lobby, using her key card up until 11AM the next morning.

This week, the new guy came upon her on the beach where Joran left her and then he might have killed her, then I guess driven to the other side of the island after disposing of her permanently he just tossed off his shirt and left it on the beach.

Okey dokey.

[IMHERE]

Linda Allsion said the blue eye Dutch boy thingy stated by Julia Renfro is not true.....She was on Hannity and Combs

[xxx]

The family has said from the beginning there was no blue eyed Dutch marine/coast guard/boy.

But once you decide that they know that Natalee is alive or that she OD'd and they are the ones that hid her body, then the idea of her mother lying about something so EASILY VERIFIABLE makes perfect sense.

[Ruddy]

The blue eye story is true! Scuba has a great source from a maid at the H.I.
Maids dont lie, they clean rooms!

hahaha

[RstJ]

"The family has said from the beginning there was no blue eyed Dutch marine/coast guard/boy."

Nobody in their right mind accepts anything the family says anymore w/o corroboration. That goes for Joran too. He has an obvious motive for lying.

What's theirs?

RstJ

[ViVi]

Where did the blue eyes story originate? I have heard the family deny that several times and i've never seen an actual report about Natalee and the blue eyed boy.. Anyone?

Ruddy, I left you a comment on the inside blog.

[KAT_IS_DEVIL]

Scuba, I don't read at FOB. Last post I read here of yours was that Deepak was going to get x number of florins because they took his car in an illegal fashion.

I used to read the posts and it seemed to me that you wanted it to be anyone but Joran. The rumors and the speculation are tremendous in this case and some of the info that came from you added to that.

[ViVi]

Nobody in their right mind accepts anything the family says anymore w/o corroboration. That goes for Joran too. He has an obvious motive for lying.

What's theirs?

RstJ

Posted by: RstJ | Monday, April 17, 2006 at 09:56 PM

There you have it. They have no motive to lie--and I can't understand the mindset that blindly believes everything Joran and his attorney put forth, while blindly dismissing everything the family says as lies. It goes against everything logical. How does one get to that way of thinking?

[Rick]

This guy the ALE are holding is supposedly named Geoffrey. Do a search on Webshots.com, where people post their vacation photos, for "jeff aruba" and "geoffrey aruba". This guy comes up with quite a few different girls who were vacationing on the island. One thing that can be said is this guy obviously goes after the tourist girls.