Duke Rape Case - Indictments, Or No?

One headline stated that no members of the Duke LaCrosse team were mentioned or indicted in a list of indictments today. But as paragraph two explains, the judge sealed one indictment after the Grand Jury left for the day. When a link picks up a headline like that different from the posted story, it usually means the title was changed. Seems the Raleigh News And Observer was ready to run with the headline No Indictments at one point.

The headline reads Judge Seals Indictments

It isn't unusual for a change to occur when an outlet is prepping a story. But it could suggest things didn't turn out like a publication planned.

More at Sister Toldja who comments on Jesse Jackson and LaShawn, who points to two sealed indictments.

Comments

[Sgt. York]

If it turns out that this is a complete fabrication (likely) I hope the women who falsely accused these guys - in an attempt to send innocent men to prison - gets something other than a misdemeanor charge of "filing a false police report" along with her free college tuition from Jesse Jackson's Rainbow/Push Coalition.

[xxx]

I really can't understand what the DA is doing, everyone says he's supposed to be a stand up guy, with a great track record and yet the defense said he REFUSED to look at the photos they had of this woman full of bruises...which I think we can take as truth since they've been shown to the media and confirmed exactly what the defense said.

Why are the police trying to find out who was at the party????

Either they have an ID from the woman on the players she says raped her or they don't....unless the defense is right and they are trying to make sure whomever she identified was actually at the party.

This case is ridiculous and I agree, I believe this is a false accusation and I believe she should get jail time if it can be proven she made it all up to stay out of the drunk tank.

[Sgt. York]

RE: "Why are the police trying to find out who was at the party?"

Reportedly, one of the three men she accused (via photo) wasn't even at the party.

[xxx]

I hope that is true. I hope she did accuse someone that wasn't there, since that would be pretty close to 100% proof that she's a LIAR.

I am so disguested with this case, and I always believe the victims.

But this chick's story is unbelievable, if she was white she would already be in jail for filing false charges.

The other stripper made the first mysterious 911 call, every single person who saw the woman said she was either drunk or high. The photos pretty much prove the injuries that the hospital staff attributed to rape were already on her when she got to the party, we know she didn't lose her freaking shoe running away from her rapists because that's in the photo too and if they can prove that its nail polish on the porch railing, then the case is toast.

The only way anyone would ever be found guilty of raping this woman is if they get the OJ reverse jury who finds them guilty because they're white and she is black.

WTF is happening to this country?

[Sgt. York]

RE: "The other stripper made the first mysterious 911 call"

If I'm following the time-line correctly, the two strippers get in a car to leave but prior to driving away - they call the police asserting that they were innocently walking past a house when suddenly white men began shouting racial slurs at them.

[xxx]

Bingo.

Except the other stripper apparently contradicted herself even in the 911 call, saying that she and her friend were walking down the street and,alternatly, they were sitting in a car...

If the DA brought this travesty of a case before a grand jury and got an indictment, then I give up, this country has lost it.

We can't put any actual rapists or child molesters in jail because we don't believe women and children UNLESS they are black and accusing white people in which case we will put them in jail regardless of their guilt.

There is no case. I've never seen a 'case' where every single piece of actual evidence and testimony appears to completely and directly contradict the alleged victim.

I just saw an interview where the DA seems to infer that they drugged this woman????????????

If I was a betting person I would be that either heroin or oxycontin showed up in her blood, not GHB or Rophynal.

[Rick]

WRAL reports indictments handed down today on two players.

[Sgt. York]

RE: "indictments handed down today on two players."

Because accused player #3 wasn't at the party.

[Rick]

Sgt York, Any idea how someone could rape someone else without leaving DNA of any sort?

[Brian Murphy]

The only way anyone would ever be found guilty of raping this woman is if they get the OJ reverse jury who finds them guilty because they're white and she is black.

WTF is happening to this country?

REPLY: You hit the nail on the head with that question. Our ultra liberal media is only too willing to participate on a which hunt when the accused are white but what happens when the accused are black?? Its just not news worthy and the story isn't covered. Have you ever heard of the Wichita Massacre?? Read about it in the following link:
http://library.flawlesslogic.com/wichita.htm

Tell me, what would happen if the tables were turned and it was two white brothers who victimized 5 innocent black people. It would be in every damn paper for 5 years but seeing it was only white people who were victimized it wasn't deemed worthy of news coverage.

I'm disgusted but not surprised. If these Duke kids did rape that woman than hang them high but if this whole thing was another Tawana Brawley type of hoax they should throw the book at her.

[Heli Pilot]

With a 99% rate of indictment for 325+ people in the past two months, the Durham 'Grand Jury' could more approriately be decribed as the 'Durham Prosecutor's Lap Dog'.

There is no surprise here - except the surprise.

What is surprising is that the citizens let this perverted system of 'justice' continue. Why even have a Grand Jury if all they are going to do is rubber stamp everything the prosecutor hands in? Why not just charge people and get it over with? What is wrong with this picture? What is behind this disgusting process?

Whether you think they are guilty or innocent - you've got to agree there is something wrong with the Grand Jury system today in America.

[FloridaPatty]

Woman's father was on television tonight. He stated he saw her just before she left, gave her directions to where the house was. This man sounded like my grandfather. Said he didn't see any bruises, cuts or otherwise. Drove his daughter to the store to buy candy for the kids before she left. Said she was smiling and laughing. So there we have someone attesting to how she was prior to the event.

I'm real interested to see what is in those envelopes. AP says that names are not revealed and are sealed because it could ruin the indivdual's life.

Rape. Let me tell you something here folks, I thought the old attitude "she had it coming" was long gone. I was wrong. I'm a woman, I'm 46 years old and a product of the "you've come a long way baby" movement. We haven't come that far along. I've seen this woman smeared and called everything from a tart to a stripper to a whore. All of the males have been called "the team" or "the lacrosse players", not party goers, not accused but might as well say it, boys will be boys.

[xxx]

It isn't an issue that she is a stripper it is an issue that her story apears not to match any facts.

The photos show the woman WITH BRUISES when she is dancing and when she arrived at the house, therefore, if she didn't have bruises 'right before she left' then she got them between seeing her father and arriving at the party.

It has to do with the fact that instead of saying she consented to sex for money, which would be the smart thing to do if you raped her, they have said BEFORE DNA TESTS results were in, that no one had sex with her and so far, DNA supports that statement.

Her story does not fit the evidence, that is why I don't believe her.

[FloridaPatty]

XXX I haven't ruled out that she is making it up but it defies all reason that a woman who goes to college and has children has time to plot out a rape at a precise location and fingering two and possibly three males from the lacrosse team via a photograph. Much plotting went into this and the rape exam alone and harm to her body is enough to stave off any possible monetary motive.

DNA, like I said earlier in a post, does not disprove a crime. It can sure seal the deal but the absence of it to PROVE a crime isn't needed otherwise how did crimes get solved pre-DNA? Good old fashioned police work.

These folks in this city are really hot about this issue. Seems things have not been dealt fairly or so it is being claimed. Same story, different year. Black/white.

[jkatl]

There is no case. I've never seen a 'case' where every single piece of actual evidence and testimony appears to completely and directly contradict the alleged victim.

Braindead, maybe that's because for the last 4 weeks everything released to the press has come from the defense.

And your heroin statement is the most racsist comment i've seen on this board.

[xxx]

Why is the heroin statement racist?

The security guard said she appeared intoxicated but did not smell any booze on her...that leaves you with some kind of opiate.

Since I don't believe she was given GHB or any other date rape drug, that pretty much leaves heroin or oxycontin or I suppose some kind of other barbituate, but it seems it acted on her pretty fast...

Wait and see what comes up in her toxicology report and then you can come back and apologize

[keri]

I doubt that the woman premeditated the whole thing.

What is more likely is that (1) she got her injuries elsewhere, either before or after going to the house, (2) there was a dispute over money, and the Lacrosse players may have threatened to go to the police and (3) she threatened the same thing back, then she decided to up the antes and falsely accuse them for the (presumably not self-inflicted?) injuries that she received elsewhere.

I have really wanted to believe the woman but facts keep on failing to add up. Does anyone know whether she has taken a lie detector test? The Duke people offered to take those tests.