Duke Rape Allegations Not The First For Alleged Victim

Th accuser made a rape claim ten years ago for an incident she said happened three years earlier. Interesting coincidence: she said three men had raped and beaten her. No one was ever charged.

Hmm ...

Comments

[anniekwa]

This case is another nightmare and has turned into a "soap opera". How embarassing and tragic for everyone involved, including the accuser because it sounds like she may not be terribly balanced. However we don't have all of the evidence yet that the DA seems to have in his hands, so perhaps she actually was raped. That is the problem with "crying wolf". When you actually tell the truth it is hard to be believed. Why can't the world just tell the truth anymore? Arghhhh!

[Rick]

"Why can't the world just tell the truth anymore? Arghhhh!"
Posted by: anniekwa

Because it has become OK, acceptable to do so. If you try to teach children that it is wrong to lie, cheat, steal even to commit murder. You are teaching "religion" and should be burned at the stake by the Alec Baldwin's of the world.

The MSM was ready with their "southern racists, southern school, good ole boy" typical bigoted rant. Until they learned the boys that are charged are from "up north" and Duke is all but ivy league. I'm not saying this girl is lying. Let the court decide the weight of the evidence. But if she is. She and her witness friend need some very hard time as a matter of justice toward all those women who have been victimized.

[noone]

Since when did being religious or religion in general have monopoly on honesty, or integrity? Isalm has been lying for years. Christianity used to teach that earth was the center of the universe despite contridictary evidence. Relgions and religious people have lied, stole and cheated for years, less we forget Jim Baker and Tammy Faye. I do not believe that the MSM went out of their to say these Duke boys were hillbilies. This was much more a class issue. Rich white boys and poor black women. See it was Rich versus poor, white versus black. Once the truth of the matter started to creep out from the assinine DA in Durham did the MSM find they had been duped by a politicition trying to get elected.

Since when did anyone say it was wrong for a parent to teach his or her children it was wrong to lie, steal or cheat. I have never read were Alec Baldwin or any liberal has said that. I guess you are getting confused with the fact that in the United States of America that there is seperation of Church and State.

[rwilymz]

There's a report on the web this A.M. that Crystal Magnum's father is now claiming she was raped by a broomstick [as opposed to the double-entry she originally claimed?]

[xxx]

This case is INSANE.

What is it going to take the district attorney to drop the charges, at this rate, if she admits she was lying he's going to still go forward.

I have all the sympathy in the world for rape victims and how dificult and ugly the process is.

But there is not one piece of evidence that supports this woman's story, everything...photos, third party witnesses, receipts...contradicts her claim.

And now I am supposed to believe she was gang raped and beaten by THREE men twice in the same lifetime??? Ridiculous.

I suspect she probably was gang raped at some time by three men, somewhere in her past and I suspect she is mentally disturbed.

But there is no way in hell that any Duke Lacrosse players, or anyone at that party touched her, had sex with her, let alone raped, beat and strangled her.

And her father really needs to stay off the TV, he's already made himself DEFENSE WITNESS NUMBER ONE, he has absolutely proven she changed her story and how he says her rape complaint from 96 never happened, in effect, calling his own daughter a false accuser.

[DoorMart]

Funny, but the defense lawyers have yet to make public their claims, esp of the one player, that they are innocent?

They released the "photos" but they really prove nothing. No wonder the DA didnt even consider them before pressing charges

When the defense lawyers make claims and want to try the case in the media, they need to provide proof.

Also, it seems the media is so bent on making this woman out to be a liar and a floozy. No one wants to focus on the past of these lacrosse players. Obviously because Duke is a very liberal school and they do not want a liberal school to look like they really dont follow the "liberal agenda".

No doubt the Duke players are not innocent. This all could be done to get them to plead down to get less jail time

[xxx]

What past?

Drinking under age? Getting in a bar fight?

I have to say that doesn't compare too favorably to car stealing and trying to run down a police officer, as the accuser was convicted of.

What other proof do you need? Geeze, there are photos that show she had injuries when she showed up at the party, there are records and witnesses that place one of the accused boys OUTSIDE of the house when she alleges her rape. Her story has changed already. There isnt any DNA from this violent rape.

There is NO WAY these guys are going to plead to anything, forget about it, never happening.

This case will never see the inside of a courtroom unfortunately, becuase this case deserves to be totally and publicly debunked, there should be no question these boys are innocent and were falsely accused.

And you are wrong, both lawyers have repeatedly said the boys were innocent, said no sex at all took place between the woman and anyone and BOTH players say they have alibis.

She's toast.

[rwilymz]

"When the defense lawyers make claims and want to try the case in the media, they need to provide proof."

The defense never has to do anything of the sort.

Rules of logic and law: you assert, you prove.

In law, the prosecution asserts; the defense only has to block the assertion.

The prosecutor says: these boys raped this girl between time X and time Y, the defense shows pictures with time stamps saying "here is the girl shown being not-raped in that time" ... prosecution is blocked.

The prosecution says: okay then it was at *this* time, and the defense shows ATM receipts demonstrating that the rapist was miles away at that time ... prosecution is blocked.

"Also, it seems the media is so bent on making this woman out to be a liar and a floozy."

It doesn't stretch anyone's credulity to see this woman as either: she was an "out-call" stripper, for godsake. That's lingo for "if we hit it off and you give me some more money, I'll not only get naked, but I'll get you off as well."

That said, it is still possible to rape a prostitute, so I don't care to hear anyone declaring me "blaming the victim" here.

The media is, instead, focusing more on the unethical pre-trial prejudicing done by Nifong; Crystal Magnum is merely a sideshow on that, since Nifong is doing this nonsense on her case.

"No one wants to focus on the past of these lacrosse players."

NO one?? There's a federal prosecutor in DC on Tuesday and the media reporting on that that proves you wrong.

One of the lacrosse players has pleaded to simple assult: he hit a guy.

The rest? under-age drinking and public urination. Load up the firing squads...

"No doubt the Duke players are not innocent."

Of what? Being rich and white? No, they are guilty of that, certainly.

Rape? While there may be motive and means, it certainly seems like there's no opportunity.

[JL]

maybe huey duey and leuy raped her? or larry moe and curly? maybe it was the beastie boys? sorry, but this case is going nowhere.

let's wait for the dna. that'll put them away. no dna,wait it was a broomstick.

bullshit.

th 2nd stripper will testify for whoever she thinks will lead her to stuff her pockets better. this case is getting tossed.

back to outcalls.

[Florida Patty]

Oh brother. God forbid you say the word religion worse still if you say Christian.

The boys are out on bond. (like we didn't see that coming)

There has been a history of imbalance in just between the haves and have nots. William Kennedy Smith comes to mind as well as Kobe Bryant. A lustered defense goes far.

Makes no difference (should not) if she was raped before. Let's do the math:

Current age: (29) -
13 yrs. ago: (13)
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16 years old

See it reads much stronger and evil to say
"she reported a "RAPE" (nudge nudge) before!
She WAITED THREE YEARS to report it!

Instead of saying:
"she stated she was also raped at the age of 16 (and why) she waited three years to report it"

[Steve W]

The Duke Rape accuser is looking for victims aid. She wants attention (not media attention, but attention from family and victim$ right$ group$), she wants money, she wants an excuse to get out of her bills, she wants prescription meds, she wants chatty doctors appts (attention), free scholarships (Rainbow Coalition), etc.

She got a lot of attention and victims aid the last time she simply filed a police report with no follow up!!

Now it seems only a year after checking herself into the Psych ward for 'hard times with bills' - she had simply fallen flat (still stripping) - and fell back on the only thing she knew would bring her respite: a rape allegation. When the Duke Boys called her a Nigger, she had her mark, and excuse enough in her mind.

It is beyond pathetic, and I hope this time she is prosecuted as an example if no evidence is found to support her story. Instead she'll probably get a house from Habitat for Humanity to go along with her new paid college tuition from Jesse Jackson.

[Gary Maxwell]

I wonder why if the charge is that a brommstick was used, that no brommstick is listed on the search warrant? Did she change her story? Or did Dad read something in a newspaper and decide he liked how it helped his dear daughter. Oh BTW if there was a broom and the police confiscated it, there would certainly be her DNA on it. And we would not need the boys DNA and a second lab etc etc etc. Boys broom and her DNA would be plenty for some serious consideration. But we can be assured that never happened otherwise Nifong would have been blabbing about it to everyone that would listen. "Hey I am trying white boys, vote for me." the man is a disgrace and if this girl is lying, even if mentally ands emotional disturbed she should be punished. Its a travesty for presumed innocent boys.

[xxx]

There was no broom in the search warrant or the complaint because she never mentioned it until after the DNA came back negative. People who think there is some super secret other search warrant that mentions a broom or some other super secret affidavit that mentions a broom are nuts, UNLESS she also charged these boys with being terrorists and the DA got a special unrecorded search warrant from the terror court in DC...seems, ah, no.

She made up the part about the broom just like she 'remembered' that maybe the rape wasn't really 30 minutes after it became clear that one of the guys she accused could not possibly have raped her during the 30 minute window as he was outside getting a cab, so she changed it to SEEMED like 30 minutes.....who knows what kind of inconsistencies are in her story by now, her father's TV appearance alone is enough to trash her credibility, plus he said there was no rape in 96...sorry dad, there is a POLICE REPORT about a rape and beating...so if there was no rape then you've just verified that your daughter is a serial false accuser.

The only way any DNA is going to come back is if the DA plants it, and I'm not sure he's that unethical, since he must know his case is a goner, as soon as the election is over he will say the accuser is withdrawing due to all the media glare, he thinks she was raped, the end.

I believe the boys should sue the DA and the woman in civil court to make an example of her and to make sure that there is NO QUESTION these were false charges, not unprovable charges, or charges that did not meet the reasonable doubt standard, but blatantly, patently obviously false. A lie.

But I actually think she is mentally disturbed and probably was raped at some time in the past, maybe this other charge was the real one but no one took her seriously....her MO of lying, drug abuse, stripping and probably prostitution fits the profile of a woman who has been abused some time in her life.

However, you don't get to say John raped me and I never got justice so now I am going to accuse Pete here of raping me, because all men are evil so one is just as good as the other as long as someone pays for my pain. It cannot work that way.

This case is sickening.

[rwilymz]

"The Duke Rape accuser is looking for victims aid. She wants attention (not media attention, but attention from family and victim$ right$ group$), she wants money, she wants an excuse to get out of her bills, she wants prescription meds, she wants chatty doctors appts (attention), free scholarships (Rainbow Coalition)"

Actually, Steve, I think she was more concerned with saving her children. She's got two kids [5 and 7], problems with NC's version of Family Services before, and she was caught out late at night, stripping, drunk [or otherwise medicated], and suddenly she finds herself in a detox clinic.

This can't look good to the tight-asses in Family Services. It was there she reported a rape. I'm more inclined to think she reported this one as a diversion.

[festicles]

It's amazing how many judgments folks are capable of rendering in a case where the prosecution has not even official disclosed their evidence to the defense attorneys yet, and everything else that has been shared with the media has been done so by someone, on either side of the case, that has an agenda. We have no clue what really happened, and to pretend otherwise is foolish. Let's see the evidence from the prosecutors, and the refuting evidence from the defense team, then we'll know what the hell we're talking about....until then, it is fun to watch people showcase their personal biases while pretending to know what really happened.

[Rick]

"Since when did being religious or religion in general have monopoly on honesty, or integrity?"

I NEVER SAID IT DID. I SAID THAT PEOPLE (LIKE YOURSELF) ACCUSE OTHERS OF PREACHING RELIGION IF THEY WANT THEIR KIDS TO LEARN SOME MORALS.

Isalm has been lying for years. NO, A FEW FANATICS HAVE BEEN LYING IN THE NAME OF ISLAM.

Christianity used to teach that earth was the center of the universe despite contridictary evidence. WHAT "EVIDENCE" WOOULD THAT BE. AND AGAIN, THE FEW DO NOT SPEAK FOR THE MANY.

Relgions and religious people have lied, stole and cheated for years, less we forget Jim Baker and Tammy Faye. YES, AND ONE MORE TIME. THE FEW DO NOT SPEAK FOR THE MANY. Relgions and religious people have ALSO FED THE POOR, TREATED THE SICK AND LIVE HONEST LIVES. LET US NOT FORGET MOTHER TERESA.
I do not believe that the MSM went out of their to say these Duke boys were hillbilies.THAT IS LIKELY BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT FROM NC AND DID NOT HEAR THE FIRST REPORTS.

This was much more a class issue. Rich white boys and poor black women. See it was Rich versus poor, white versus black. ARE YOU SAYING THAT IT MAKES A DIFFERNCE? THAT ONE FORM OF BIGOTRY REPLACING ANOTHER IS OK?

Once the truth of the matter started to creep out from the assinine DA in Durham did the MSM find they had been duped by a politicition trying to get elected. YOU MEAN THE ASSININE DA WHO MAY ACTUALLY BELIEVE A CRIME WAS COMMITTED AND WANTS TO ALLOW THE "VICTIM" HER DAY IN COURT? OR THE ONE WHO SAYS WITHOUT DNA THERE IS NO CASE?

Since when did anyone say it was wrong for a parent to teach his or her children it was wrong to lie, steal or cheat. THE MEDIA IS LOADED WITH EXAMPLES OF PEOPLE ACCUSING SCHOOLS OF TEACHING RELIGION, ETC WHEN THE MATTER IS BROUGHT UP.

I have never read were Alec Baldwin or any liberal has said that. NO, I NEVER HEARD BALDWIN SAY THAT. I DID HEAR HIM SCREAM ABOUT HOW HENRY HYDE AND HIS ENTIRE FAMILY SHOULD BE MURDERED BECAUSE HYDE "IS A LIAR" ACCORDING TO HIM.

I guess you are getting confused with the fact that in the United States of America that there is seperation of Church and State. YOU MIGHT WANT TO ACTUALLY READ THE CONSTITUTION. THERE IS NO SEPERATION CLAUSE. THERE IS HOWEVER A PROHIBITION ON SUPPORTING ONE RELIGION OVER ANOTHER OR HAVING A "STATE" RELIGION LIKE THE ANGLICAN CHURCH. IN FACT YOU MAY WANT TO STICK YOUR ANTI-RELIGION HATE IN YOUR BACK POCKET FOR A MOMENT AND RE-READ MY POST. SINCE WHAT I SAID NEVER INFERRED THAT WE SHOULD TEACH RELIGION, JUST THAT PEOPLE LIKE YOURSELF WOULD JUMP TO THAT CONCLUSION......WHICH YOU DID.

Posted by: noone | Friday, April 28, 2006 at 08:32 AM"

[aurora]

I'll say it. She's a liar.

The real issue is the enormous number of false rape allegations and false abuse allegations that women routinely level against men (particularly in divorce or child-custody battles) and the way the MSM denies this horror is occuring on a daily basis. The real issue is that women are allowed to file false charges, serious charges, that land men in jail and ruin their lives and the penalty is either nothing or a slap on the wrist. In this case, the liar will get her tuition paid for by the "hate whitey" activists.

[rwilymz]

"It's amazing how many judgments folks are capable of rendering ..."

Yes it is, Fester. Including yours.

In case you missed it, Nifong spent the first two -- or was it three? -- weeks blabbing to the local press [it was still the local media covering it then] about how these three did it this way, at that time.

Not "we are collecting evidence and will prosecute if it looks like there's a case"; but "they did it, there WAS a rape, DNA will prove it... " [DNA comes back, no dice] "...oh, well, you don't need DNA to prove rape..." [which is true, but he's now backpeddling] "...and besides, the woman says so, and I believe her, and the boys will be shown to have done it at this time..." [surprise!! digital photos! no time for it] "...uh... well ..."

I'm sure you just missed all that.

The fact is, there's three ways of winning a case like this:
1] admission of guilt
2] complainant's story backed up by physical and other objective evidence
3] complainant's story backed up by overwhelming circumstantial evidence.

#1 is not a player; The DA led with physical/objective evidence and came up snake-eyes on all of it, and frankly, as far as forensic evidence goes, there isn't an awful lot left in the arsenal; the circumstantial evidence pretty much points away rape.

If Nifong hadn't pretended that Duke U was Bubba's College of Cosmetology and understood that sooner or later the nation's ears would perk up, he wouldn't have blabbed about it and allowed the defense to play in the media as well.

...The defense attorneys can only respond in the media to the specific things a prosecutor says publically, which is why we've heard so much about it. Nifong shot himself in both feet.

I doubt many people are saying what "really happened", just that from an objective standpoint, rape is far from likely.

Race-baiting, on the other hand... but that's not a crime. Just extremely rude.

[xxx]

It is NOT true that there are an overwhelming number of false allegations that is more anti women crap....its a MYTH, like BIG FOOT.

Rape is under reported, under prosecuted and many more guilty men get acquitted for lack of evidence then innocent men get sent to prison by lying women.

Please do not confuse THIS CASE of FALSE RAPE ACCUSATION with most rape cases that are in fact brought by actual women who were actually raped by men they trusted.

THIS WOMAN IS A LIAR.

Most women who say they are raped are neither liars, former false accusers of three other men in their past, former mental hospital patients, stripper/escort/sex workers or about to be arrested and taken to the drunk tank/detox when they "remember" they got gang raped, yet again, by three guys who, yet again, beat them up just like the time ten years ago....

The worst thing about this dumbass and her fake rape claim is it brings people out of the woodwork screaming about false rape accuastions, and how rape shield laws are unconstitutional and how rape victims need to get their names and faces splashed all over the newspaper...because we need to punish them...just in case they are lying.

I wonder why, when rape is proven, it doens't bring anyone out of the woodwork screaming about why rape is so hard to prosecute, or screaming about how the rapist had several prior accusations against him..

Its only the rare case of a real false accusation that sends the women haters into a frenzy to protect all those poor, poor guys who are getting fasely accused of rape by thousands of revengeful, crazy, spiteful women.

Whatever. This chick needs to be in jail or detox or the mental home or all of the above.

[xxx]

This District Attorney is speaking publicly saying that the jury may not hear anything about her prior three man gang rape accusation that went nowhere.

Is this guy smoking crack?

Does he still really think he has a case here to prosecute?

He needs to be not only NOT re elected but censured by the bar and taken to court for malicious prosecution.

[rwilymz]

The DA's primary race is May 2nd -- next Tuesday. He's up against two challengers, one of whom is black. The Raleigh-Durham area is 44% black.

My personal predictions:
1] If he wins the primary, it'll mean he's effectively split the black vote; my bet is he'll drop the charges soon citing inconsistent stories and lack of physical evidence, possibly waiting until the DNA tests on the spare fingernails comes back on the 15th.
2] If he loses the primary, my guess is he'll keep up the case and schedule it so that his successor will have the onus of prosecuting it or dropping it, and thus when the successor loses [or drops the charges] it'll be a campaign slogan for the next election.

[xxx]

My prediction is he wins and he drops the case, citing concern for the accusers health and/or her refusal to participate.

I don't believe this piece of shit is EVER going to admit she told inconsistent stories, that she is in all probability a total basket case liar, that he has no evidence other than the bruises she ALREADY had when she arrived and the fact that a black victim of 3 rich white guys started out as a really good way to win the election.

He's going to say til his dying day that he believes a "crime" was committed against his precious alleged victim.

If he loses I think both other candidates will drop this like a hot potatoe, the black guy is a defense attorney, so he's going to be inclined to side w/the defense anyway and the woman has already slammed his handling of the case, and hopefully she has the good sense to know that prosecuting high profile rape cases when all the evidence stacks up against you is the worst possible thing you could do as far as dealing with rape.

[aurora]

"He told me he was a business man and I found out later that he lied. Was that rape?

Go to iVillage and read the garbage. Not calling her after the date is rape, breaking up with her after three dates is rape, having sex and she feels bad about it afterward is rape. Then of course, we have the vindictive false allegations of rape which some estimates put as high as 40-50% of all allegations.

Women routinely make false abuse charges, false child-abuse charges leveled at the father during divorce proceedings, and false rape charges.

These are THE MOST FALSELY REPORTED crimes.

[xxx]

AURORA

Every credible study there is puts false rape accusations at somewhere between 3% and 6%. There are dozens and dozens of studies that ALL come up with approximately the same figures and maybe ONE study done by some guy in Indiana that comes up with a 40% figure...science says if your results CANNOT BE REPLICATED then they are NOT VALID.

This is what the FBI says. This is what the Department of Justice says. This is what the British government says in a huge survey last year...3% false rape claims.

Women are not so stupid or evil that they drag themselves and their partners through the court system because he didn't call them or he broke up with her.

The issue of divorce and child support may be its own category since there are generally a lot of lies from both parties including fathers alleging that mom's abused the kids as well as the other way around.

The FBI says more people falsely report their own deaths than falsely report rape......works for me.

[Rick]

"Women are not so stupid or evil that they drag themselves and their partners through the court system because he didn't call them or he broke up with her."

Now there's a drug I'd like to get my hands on. Do you hear colors and see sound when you use it?

[xxx]

Gee Rick, I feel sorry for you, if you believe the world is full of women who falsely accuse men of rape at the drop of a hat, for any perceived slight then you must not have had much fun in the dating scene...the need to protect yourself from lying, scheming, false rape accusers would, by necessity, strictly limit your interactions with the oppposite sex.

In fact, I hope you waited until you were married to have sex, even though of course, that might not prevent your wife from falsely accusing you of rape, but it would at least give you a little more protection than any date or girlfriend.

What a dumbass.

[Rick]

Actually, I'm no longer allowed to date...ever since I got married. And I NEVER said "the world is full of women who falsely accuse men of rape at the drop of a hat" I said you're statement of "Women are not so stupid or evil that they drag themselves and their partners through the court system because he didn't call them or he broke up with her." Is totally full of BS and it is. Here's something for you to look into. Do a word search on Susan Smith & Twana Brawley, just for a couple real easy ones to find. Then come back and tell us all that women NEVER falsely accuse men of crap they did not do. The "dumbass" is the person who thinks there is any group that does not possess the capacity for evil.

[Rick]

Actually, I'm no longer allowed to date...ever since I got married. And I NEVER said "the world is full of women who falsely accuse men of rape at the drop of a hat" I said you're statement of "Women are not so stupid or evil that they drag themselves and their partners through the court system because he didn't call them or he broke up with her." Is totally full of BS and it is. Here's something for you to look into. Do a word search on Susan Smith & Twana Brawley, just for a couple real easy ones to find. Then come back and tell us all that women NEVER falsely accuse men of crap they did not do. The "dumbass" is the person who thinks there is any group that does not possess the capacity for evil.

[xxx]

I never said women never made false accusations, obviously, since I think THIS is a false accusation that cannot be true.

What I say is that false accusations are RARE and that they generally aren't made by women because guys didn't call them or broke up with them..that is a myth.

"I got really drunk and woke up and some guy(s) were having sex with me/I went out on a date with John Doe and we were kissing and then he raped me even though I told him to stop but I didn't fight him because I was scared"

That is about 80% of how rape allegations go...do you really think if these girls were making all this up they wouldn't come up with better stories than that? False accusers always have great stories, just like this freak in Durham...she was not only raped, she was brutally gang raped by 3 guys, raped and sodomized all the while fighting for her life, heroically fighting off the bastards"

That's a good story, that fits the mythology of how women are supposed to act...that was the first tip off that she was a LIAR, becasue that is not how rape happens in most cases.

Why don't you try googling Alejandro Avila and Joseph Smith and read about their acquittals on sex crime charges before they were convicted of later, more serious sex crimes...murdering and raping little girls

And come back and tell me that the system doesn't absolutely favor the defendant and that juries are not absolutely predisposed to believing that women are more likely to lie about rape than men are to commit it.

[Rick]

"Why don't you try googling Alejandro Avila and Joseph Smith and read about their acquittals on sex crime charges before they were convicted of later, more serious sex crimes...murdering and raping little girls

And come back and tell me that the system doesn't absolutely favor the defendant and that juries are not absolutely predisposed to believing that women are more likely to lie about rape than men are to commit it."

Because it would be an absolute waste of my time. I am ALL TOO aware of what goes on in the world. But I will do this. I will not dispute saying what I said when someone questions it.

"Women are not so stupid or evil that they drag themselves and their partners through the court system because he didn't call them or he broke up with her."
That IS your direct quote. If that isnt what you meant...if you meant to say "rarely". Then say that's what you meant.....dont deny what you said.

[xxx]

Women are not so stupid or evil that they drag themselves and their partners through the court system because he didn't call them or he broke up with her."
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And I absolutely stand by that you are going to find very, very few if ANY false rape charges laid by women because some guy didn't call them after they hooked up or because he broke up with them...

Unfortunately, those are the lame, lying reasons that defense attorney's say women are lying, and there are millions and millions of people who think just like you do, that when John doesn't call Jane after a night of casual sex she goes to the cops, has a five hour rape exam, gets gossiped about by all her friends, disbelieved by most of the public, tells her story of exactly what the sex consisted of to 20 or so people and then gets to tell it in public, see it in the newspaper, and most probably walk away with a not guilty verdict.

It is RIDICULOUS to think that this happens on any kind of regular, common or even uncommon basis. What would a woman get out of this?

Quite frankly, if you just wanted to get a guy back for something say he hit you, then he really is screwed because everyone will believe you, NO ONE will believe you if you say he raped you.

In my opinion.

[xxx]

Women are not so stupid or evil that they drag themselves and their partners through the court system because he didn't call them or he broke up with her."
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And I absolutely stand by that you are going to find very, very few if ANY false rape charges laid by women because some guy didn't call them after they hooked up or because he broke up with them...

Unfortunately, those are the lame, lying reasons that defense attorney's say women are lying, and there are millions and millions of people who think just like you do, that when John doesn't call Jane after a night of casual sex she goes to the cops, has a five hour rape exam, gets gossiped about by all her friends, disbelieved by most of the public, tells her story of exactly what the sex consisted of to 20 or so people and then gets to tell it in public, see it in the newspaper, and most probably walk away with a not guilty verdict.

It is RIDICULOUS to think that this happens on any kind of regular, common or even uncommon basis. What would a woman get out of this?

Quite frankly, if you just wanted to get a guy back for something say he hit you, then he really is screwed because everyone will believe you, NO ONE will believe you if you say he raped you.

In my opinion.

[Captain Joe]

Let's see now, a broomstick won't leave any human DNA, right. Maybe that's why they didn't find any DNA that matched any of the accused. That's probably why she changed her story. I wonder if the father, family or she was compensated by anyone after the first "rape". Have NC child protection folks been notified about this crackpot rape accuser? Her children could be suffering from the care she is giving to her own children.

[jlb]

I just wanted to say that I have never before posted to any blog but that this case as intrigued me. I am the mother of a 5 year-old boy and an 18 month-old girl. I would never want my daughter to be raped - as I would never want my son to be accused of a rape he did not commit. I know it is easy to say that 1. The girl should not be a stipper and 2., the boy should not have been at the party doing underage drinking. In reality, both happen sometimes regardless of the best upbringing. I as I think everyone else just wants the truth - the whole truth. I am weighing in on the side that the boys are innocent and do not think that their names should have been publicized but I will wait for all of the evidence to come out to pass final judgement. In the end - someone has to be punished - either for the brutal rape of a woman or for the defermation of the boys charachter - remember, black or white they could be your son or daughter - signed mom.

[jlb]

I just wanted to say that I have never before posted to any blog but that this case as intrigued me. I am the mother of a 5 year-old boy and an 18 month-old girl. I would never want my daughter to be raped - as I would never want my son to be accused of a rape he did not commit. I know it is easy to say that 1. The girl should not be a stipper and 2., the boy should not have been at the party doing underage drinking. In reality, both happen sometimes regardless of the best upbringing. I as I think everyone else just wants the truth - the whole truth. I am weighing in on the side that the boys are innocent and do not think that their names should have been publicized but I will wait for all of the evidence to come out to pass final judgement. In the end - someone has to be punished - either for the brutal rape of a woman or for the defermation of the boys charachter - remember, black or white they could be your son or daughter - signed mom.

[jlb]

I just wanted to say that I have never before posted to any blog but that this case as intrigued me. I am the mother of a 5 year-old boy and an 18 month-old girl. I would never want my daughter to be raped - as I would never want my son to be accused of a rape he did not commit. I know it is easy to say that 1. The girl should not be a stipper and 2., the boy should not have been at the party doing underage drinking. In reality, both happen sometimes regardless of the best upbringing. I as I think everyone else just wants the truth - the whole truth. I am weighing in on the side that the boys are innocent and do not think that their names should have been publicized but I will wait for all of the evidence to come out to pass final judgement. In the end - someone has to be punished - either for the brutal rape of a woman or for the defermation of the boys charachter - remember, black or white they could be your son or daughter - signed mom.

[jlb]

As I said- I never posted before - I guess I said it...

[jlb]

As I said- I never posted before - I guess I said it...