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I think he would rather have his daughter -- I think someone else talked him into having the money from the book.

one of the reliable posters on sm...think he's from aruba is saying that he confirmed joe t is being paid by arubatruth and paid for his witness.

dave Holloway does not need the money. If you knew what a man of integrity he is you would not say that. Shame on you he can not find his child and you have no idea how much that must hurt.

One thing that's not received alot of attention but could be crucial is that after NH et al left Excelsior, she returned alone....this was the night she was filmed speaking with Paulus....would be very interesting to learn who she went back there to see

This statement is totally UNTRUE. The security guards were not arrested because of the boys. The boys spoke of security guards in a black shirt -- not black men. The guards were arrested because they had been seen in the area and had possessions of the MB group in their home.


Posted by: yankee-in-france | Thursday, April 06, 2006 at 12:42 PM
no that is totally spin -- not true. They read Deepak's statement word for word -- he described the security guards as "dark-color skinned."

If the elders ran the Lion's Den, and 'dirtyhand and the elder are of the same hand but it is dangerous for the Arawaks to play it,' then dirtyhand is Mickey John, and he worked at the Lion's Den

"while of gold bricks the road is not paved"

-you can get rich there, but you have to win

maybe ... maybe not
It could be the first scapegoats had unbreakable alibis, so ALE went down to the next group in line.
Posted by: kaycee77025 | Thursday, April 06, 2006 at 12:24 PM

true...or that perhaps they were just the low men on the totem pole of corruption...brought her to her fate kind of thing...can't talk or they wind up like rene von "headless" or the dude with his legs cut off and in flanes.
Posted by: JL | Thursday, April 06, 2006 at 12:26 PM
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Then you're saying the guards were involved?

One thing that's not received alot of attention but could be crucial is that after NH et al left Excelsior, she returned alone....this was the night she was filmed speaking with Paulus....would be very interesting to learn who she went back there to see

Posted by: COLUMBO | Thursday, April 06, 2006 at 12:47 PM


remember something about natalee being dealt a hand to confirm to those who were carving her out that she was the "one"...think the hand was king king....or "king kong" as per the codetalkers riddle...thought they hinted to lorenzo wever who had worked in the casino possibly dealing her that hand(or maybe not) and that some high stakes poker players witnessed it or something.

Check your spin, wreck -- they were not arrested because of J2K.

Then you're saying the guards were involved?

Posted by: kaycee77025 | Thursday, April 06, 2006 at 12:50 PM


no...talking joran & co.

the dicemen? www.dicemen.net

other rollers are other rock 'n' rollers


The security guard issue has been discussed to death.

Again I have to say that if you can't understand that when 3 guys say we saw one or two guys, wearing black clothes, who were "dark" and had walkie talkie's talking to Natalee when we left her there is DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE for 2 security guards getting arrested then you are a moron.

If they had not told the story about Natalee being dropped at the HI, why would anyone have arrested security guards who were ALLEGEDLY seen around the HI that day? They wouldn't, since they would have known that (a) Natalee never was back at the HI and (b) no black/dark security guards ever talked to her.

End of discussion, move on.

Then you're saying the guards were involved?
Posted by: kaycee77025 | Thursday, April 06, 2006 at 12:50 PM

no...talking joran & co.
Posted by: JL | Thursday, April 06, 2006 at 12:51 PM
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you said low men on the totem pole, the guard weren't low men?

Check your spin, wreck -- they were not arrested because of J2K.

Posted by: yankee-in-france | Thursday, April 06, 2006 at 12:51 PM

I stand 100% by what I said. It is in the ALE transcripts that were obtained and read on Greta. The rumor of the guards and having stolen property is just that -- a rumor. The Beth haters were spouting this -- it just wasnot true -- only wishful thinking.

xxx-moderator

Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 10:37 pm
The DiceMen must be questioned.
They to go to the Music and enter the same Maze
Mary who was not a virgin entered
[Mary M.-she paid for]
The DiceMen ROLLED [high rolled]
Mary ROLLED

Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 10:05 pm
The dice throwers know
the maze of the rave [LION'S VICE OUTFIT]
and the fly that entered the trap [PREMEDITATION]
DirtyHand is the key [MICKEY JOHN]
He walks in many circles [PVDS FRIEND, SEC GUARD, SNITCH]

Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 10:31 pm
Mary never heard the buoy toll [DRUGGING]
ask the men who play dice and “roll” [WWW.DICEMEN.NET]

ask the men who play dice and “roll” [WWW.DICEMEN.NET]

Posted by: COLUMBO | Thursday, April 06, 2006 at 01:01 PM


nah man...this riddle wasn't from shango...it was from gordo or merian ernest...i'll find it...give me min...

Columbo

you think Mickey John is involved?
He rolled over on Deepak?

rockyroads
Scared Monkey


Joined: 26 Jun 2005

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 9:21 pm Post subject:

no the new gordo said it and said the casino workers used hand signals to mark her i think they let her win and cheated for her for some reason


can't find the riddle yet

Dallas Also wrote:
...Natalee was targeted for "consumption" via handsignals exchanged in the casino. When the dealer received the handsignal, he then dealt her two aces at the blackjack table which was somehow a signal to others at the table (and Joran was playing blackjack with her that afternoon!) that she had been selected, or targeted, for "consumption". For Joran, the income potential from acting to deliver Natalee to the "consumers" (whoever spotted her in the casino and gave the high-sign that he wanted her for his own pleasure or for a porn movie) was going to be more worthwhile to him money-wise than his normal income-producers such as money-laundering or smalltime-drug-dealing.


still have not found the riddle.

Wreck stands 100% by the dreck she's said. Mistaking drivel for facts will help solving the case immensely, according to the wreckster.

sounds to me like the Dicemen have procured for the same individual(s) and can provide a statement

the music which contains the poison notes lies within the maze:
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data2/circs/11th/0214306p.pdf


if the Dicemen did what Joran did, this suggests a "pattern"

Did the Rita interview with Joe T. imply that Dompigs brother in law may have been involved in Natalee's disappearance?

I did not have a chance to watch it and partial pasting of transcript is on inside blog.

.....and a pattern suggests 'premeditation'

I'd say she wanted to imply he knew something about Natalee. The producer talked with him and he was obviously under the influence of some substance. He definetly claimed to know something about Natalee, but wanted to be paid for his information. Then Rita has Dave Holloway on and he said it was completly nosince, and that he had interviewed him 5 times over the past year and he had been high at all times. He also claimed he had better sources who weren't high.

hahaha....codetalkers....very funny

This whole key and drug addict witness make me wonder if Joe T. isn't more desperate than he lets on.

Dompig's brother in law isn't believable and his story appears not to be supported by any other statements or evidence.

You would have to wonder if this is the best Joe can do then Joran better hope he never gets to trial.

hahaha....codetalkers....very funny

Posted by: COLUMBO | Thursday, April 06, 2006 at 01:46 PM

so basically, i think that riddle was pointing to a poker player was a witness to what happened.anyway.......just more straws to reach at.

I bet once Daves book comes out, alot of this stuff will make sense.

Ok where the heck is this poker player. Please tell me they are not legless in a cave.

JL:

please put on your LE goggles

JL:

please put on your LE goggles

Posted by: COLUMBO | Thursday, April 06, 2006 at 01:52 PM


le goggles. lol. nice one.

the gamblers/dealers are babylonians....the Dicemen are....the Dicemen

questioning them yields what?

rape
paid
repeat offender/pattern
drugged

they've procured before for whoever did this

premeditation

definetly premeditation who knows what else

All you pseudo sleuths sure are a sorry lot.

All you pseudo sleuths sure are a sorry lot.

Posted by: fox | Thursday, April 06, 2006 at 02:09 PM


no where near as sorry as the aruban le.

lol.....Joran is home from school

How do you know he's home?

Gordo Enmisión

Large Mission / Large Undertaking

Joined: 31 Jul 2005
Posts: 9


...."The human form was consumed for sign language and free tickets in rockets are much more worthwhile."


remember that columbo...from gordo's riddle...


rockets are...2 aces.

anyway...i gotta go...be good people...keep parying for natalee's family.

The name of the dead man is Maikel Juddan AKA Pitbull. He was a bouncer at the Bar "Choose a Name". Ironically, Deepak named this bar in his June 9, 2005 statement to police. It is unclear at this time how this is related, if at all. More to follow..

Choose-a-name is aimed toward an older (thirty-something) crowd than other spots like Carlos & Charlies and Bahia. It is popular for the friday happy hour, which, seeing as that nightlife is expensive in Aruba, is a good deal (an Afl. 25,- cover includes an all-you-can-drink bar for 2 hours -6 to 8- and small snacks). There is often a life band, sometimes 'Claudius Phillips & Oreo', the best local band. Lots of local professionals like to go here to start out the weekend. It is situated on the second floor behind the pink Royal Plaza building

Then you're saying the guards were involved?
Posted by: kaycee77025 | Thursday, April 06, 2006 at 12:50 PM

no...talking joran & co.
Posted by: JL | Thursday, April 06, 2006 at 12:51 PM
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you said low men on the totem pole, the guard weren't low men?

Posted by: kaycee77025 | Thursday, April 06, 2006 at 12:55 PM


Yes!! The guards, indeed, were the low men on the proverbial totem pole. If not for that "evil" Beth Twitty, they would be charged & convicted of the crime. Her unrelenting pressure on ALE for the truth prevented this from occuring.

Yank, if the guards were found in possession of MB students items, why weren't they charged & tried for the crime? Are you suggesting a coverup to save their butts? LOL It either didn't happen & is merely more baseless rumor or further proof of ALE's ineptness.

will probably rule it a suicide

One thing has got to be said for you 'Joran & Co did it' crowd is that you are always consistent.

Consistently disregarding any other information that may point elsewhere!

What are you going to say if Natalee's friend confirms that she actually did see Natalee back at the hotel that night?


Are you going to call her a liar, or say she was seeing things?

At least COLUMBO does have a slant on all this!!

I know this may be a bit of a stretch, but could it be that Dompig is simply toying with Dutch authorities by introducing the new star witness---his drug dealing, dope smoking brother in law? Is this just not his attempt to have a little fun before being removed from the case, which he probably was aware of months ago? Again, this must seem like a HUGE "reach", but I can't help but see similarities between Dompig's situation and that of the Black lawyer from Chicago (Bobby is his name) who was recently voted off of the current Survivor tv show. Prior to being voted out, the extremely intelligent Bobby was becoming increasingly apprehensive towards some of the "white" girls who were doubting his ability to successfully make a fire. While trying to make a fire, and with two of the white women looking on, he started to pretend that he had no idea what he was doing just to see if one of the other contestants, Danielle I believe, would clue into the fact that he was joking around. She didn't. She actually thought that Bobby was being serous when he was asking her whether he should be doing blatantly obvious things one should do when building a fire, like simply putting twigs on the fire to get it going even more, or asking "how" he should blow air onto the fire. She didn't clue in, and ended up looking pitiful in that particular episode. So, I couldn't help but maybe see that Dompig feels that everyone, primarily the "white" Dutch authorities (and US media) are doubting him, so just to toy with them and see maybe how stupid they think he is, why not concoct an outrageously ridiculous story of his dope smoking drug dealing brother in law being a new witness? He knows he's going down anyway, so why not make the other people look stupid like they made him look and feel over the last few months? Dope smoking, drug dealing brother in law? My gosh, it couldn't get any more absurd, could it? It can't possibly be a real situation. Anyways, I couldn't help but see some striking similarities in the political dynamics transpiring around Dompig, and those that existed around Survivor Bobby, and which motivated him to intentionally behave in an obtuse way as a way to turn the tables on his adversaries.

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