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Thursday, April 06, 2006

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Thanks Dan, you Blogger of the Year!!!!!

Hi Dan, I've sent an e-mail to Agent Cooper asking for his help on this case, I also sent him a cherry pie :)


This case gets more and more complicated everyday. I dont know what to say now . ???

Hi Lexy !!!

Hi TYLER :) Complicated and lacking in credibility!

The greater absurdities are, the more strongly they evince the falsity of that supposition from whence they flow.

I am glad they replace him...It's about time!

This case is driving me crazy...I give up...Where the hell is my island going???

And last year Natalee and the guy that was killed by his own wife and this body they found in the Quadirikiri cave...What the hell is going on in Aruba?

I want the old Aruba back...The one true happy island! I'm afraid the Aruba I grew up on wont be the same in the future! I hope and pray that it wont happen but I'm afraid it will...

Dan, how are doing btw?
Keep up with the good work! This my favorite blog!

I have and idea. I bet this guy could do a fine job.

http://www.cancunsteve.com/alfredo/seed.htm

ROTF

Ok whats next in this three ring circus?

Dan you're the man, just thought I'd put that out there.

Why am I not surprised about this latest move? I have a feeling he won't be the only one to roll for this fiasco (and it is a fiasco).

I really feel for these islanders and I hope they establish a team on their law task force who are HONEST and forthcoming for the sake of the Arubans.

Seems likely to me that Dompig was replaced for trying to use his brother in law as a false witness in order to wrap up the case in the least damaging way for Aruba....his brother in law the drug dealer.

Anyone still think there isn't corruption in the Aruban police force?

What is worse than Dompig trying to use a false witness is Joe T. spinning out that the witness said he saw Natalee in her room at 3A.M. as if that could possibly be true just to try to protect Joran. And using the key card to the motel room as if that is proof that no one except Natalee could have used that key card when Joe T. knows very well that any one of the teens could have mixed up the cards and was the one using it at that time. Joe T. spins that crap out there as if it is strict proof that Joran left Natalee on the beach and she returned to her motel and it is proof of nothing other than someone used the key card. I have my doubts that those records of use even exsist.


The card was used at 1:26, twice around 3am or 3:15 and then again at 11am.

It is impossible that Natalee used the card at 1:30 since the suspects place her in their company at that time and never said, oh yeah, she dashed back to the HI for a minute in any of their statements, it is impossible that Natalee used the key card at 11am the next day, since by that time she had been reported missing and everyone from MB was looking for her....therefore, it is impossible that she used the card at 3am and 315am unless you create some totally insane scenario where someone else uses the key, she comes back in during the dead of night, uses the key and then disappears again, leaving it in the room for someone else to use at 11. Moronic.

Just like the idea of a relative/drug dealer of the chief investigator all of a sudden having this credible information that nicely dove tails with the chief's newest theory of the crime.

Dave Holloway on Rita last night shot Joe T.'s ridiculous key story right to pieces. It's funny how Dave called out Joe T.'s mysterious non-mention that the same key was used at 11am and 11 something am the NEXT morning. I wonder what the grease ball has to say now? He's making himself look more of an ass each time he puts his face on TV. And I don't see how more aren't steamed that he is basically trashing Natalee, the most likely deceased Natalee. He's clinging his hopes on a faulty police report from a police force that just recently saw it's chief get booted from his job because of falsifying testimony that Natalee bought drugs.....whatever. F all those people.


Joe T. is another example of how stupid lawyers think most people are...he thinks he can raise doubt that maybe Natalee used the roomkey by telling only part of the story, and somehow assumes that the rest of the story...use of the key at 1:26 and twice the FOLLOWING DAY are going to get lost in the shuffle.

It is sad to see an American lawyer yes, now trashing the victim and repeating lies told by a drug dealer, who happens to be a relative of the police chief, who happens to have just changed his theory of the crime to fit the drug dealers testimony, who happens to also have wanted to sell his story for money.

Disgusting.

Just like the idea of a relative/drug dealer of the chief investigator all of a sudden having this credible information that nicely dove tails with the chief's newest theory of the crime.

Posted by: xxx | Thursday, April 06, 2006 at 08:54 AM

Wow either this is case is gonna bust wide open or right into the trash can.

The whole police force needs to be re-examined....there are others involved including former police chiefs, etc.....this stinks the high heaven. Who are the police protecting? Are they protecting a lucrative ectasy drug ring which Paulus has extensive knowledge of with the Kalpoes and Steve Croes being willing carriers? Who knows?

Screw the police, Arlene Shipper, Julie Renfro, Ruben Trappenburg, and any other "Aruba Protectors of Murder."

the case may already have been broken open, but what needs to be considered is the possibility that making the details public could be as damaging to Aruba as A.L.E. convicting nobody....therein lies Aruba's dilemma

Consider this:
-- "Chief" Dompig has just announced to the world on 48Hours that he has evidence that Natalee died of her own accord because of drugs and alcohol. He "knows" she had drugs in her possession.

--- How does he know this? Because his drug addict/dealer BROTHER-IN-LAW told him so!!!

-- Dompig is now relieved of his duties on the case.

--- After 10 months -- can we now trust ANYTHING collected and investigated in the case?? The answer is absolutely NO!

--Can you honestly say everything about Joran is true or untrue? NO!
--Can you honestly say anything collected about Paulus is true or untrue? NO
--Can you honestly say anything collected about the Kalpoes is true or untrue? NO
--Can you honestly say Beth has been wrong in her assertions against the boys? NO!
--Should Paulus be able to collect damages against Aruba? The judge has based his opinion on totally unreliable information.

This is beyond pathetic -- we are back to square one -- 10 months wasted.

Wake up Aruba -- YOU let this fester.

Is it impossible for j2k not to be guilty? Are you simply saying, "We know Joran did it, now prove it or we'll boycott!"

I don't know anything about Dave's investigative skill, though it doesn't help not to speak the local language. It's a question whether ALE has actually investigated this. Did ALE simply pick Joran as the guilty party, put on blinders and set about to prove him guilty. It's important to remember most of Beth's information came from ALE, and ALE hasn't proven to be a reliable source.


The investigation is a sham and has been from the beginning.

In fact, the new revelations that Dompig's recently uncovered star wtinesss is his drug dealing, drug taking brother in law seem to me to make the question of police corruption moot. It's obvious. The question is why? Was Dompig trying to protect ALE and Aruba's image by trying to wrap up the case in a neat bow...'no crime afterall' or is he protecting someone or something else?

I don't think he is protecting Joran or K2, it has to be something else.

Didn't Dompig take over the investigation in the middle of the summer?

Didn't Dompig take over the investigation in the middle of the summer?

Posted by: 26ANDCOUNTING | Thursday, April 06, 2006 at 10:25 AM
yes, what is your point? So has the investigation been flawed since July or did Dompig merely extend the sham when he took over? We don't know what is true or untrue anymore. That is the point.

Makes you wonder about all the accusations flying around about j2k+p, doesn't it.

I'm wondering how Beth might have been used at first, and then blew up on ALE.


It makes me believe what I always believed, that Aruba never cared about solving this case in the first place.

Their pathetic bungling and possible cover up in the first weeks after Natalee disappeared ensured there would never be a credible case for prosecution.

Once they realized the family and the media were not giving up, they switched tactics and decided to try and see if they could actually collect evidence against the suspects.

However, in order to collect or get any evidence against the suspects their own corruption and incompetance would have been exposed, so this of course, led nowhere.

The last ditch effort was Dompig's recruitment of his relative the drug dealer to corroborate his most recent theory that no crime occured at all, and the suspects just burried Natalee a couple of times in the longest panick attack in recorded history.

Since the authorities never investigated in the first place there is no way to ever prove what happened to Natalee, neither guilt or innocence can ever be proven beyond any degree of certainly.

kaycee - no it doesn't make you wonder about the accusations flying around about joran, the kalpoes and paulus...it only reaffirms it. And NO, Beth didn't get most of her info from the ALE...how convienent of you to say something absurd like that.

Dave's investigative skills obviously are just as good as Dompig's and the whole Aruban police force. You don't need to speak Dutch to write a book about your daughter getting murdered in Aruba and unable to be found and you don't need to speak Dutch to be able to read a hotel room key report. Makes you wonder why Joe T excluded the FACT that the key he speaks of was also used the next morning TWICE. Dave wouldn't have put out this book had it not been throughly investigated first.

I hate these Aruban, Joran, Kalpoe, Paulus apologists. This force was paid off.

A.L.E. got most of their information from the Holloway/Twitty families

looks like there is an incestuous relationship between local dealers and A.L.E. so that if you owed a drug dealer money they could call the polis...then you could be brought before a *judge*

now lets say it was a case of mistaken identity and you wound up dead....the polis might suggest that witnesses actually saw you with drugs in your possession ;)

For an interesting essay from a Dutch person's perspective, go to:
http://blogsfornatalee.com/forum/index.php?board=1.0

Look for the title: "The Cold Hard Truth Is That ALE Hasn't Been Looking for the Truth"


P.S. The essay is about twelve forums down.

you hate .... hate is a strong word

So what or who is to say that this new person won't do the same damn thing. Same sh*t, different pile.


What in the world would make anyone believe that after 11 months of this nonsense...lost witnesses, leads never followed up on, going on TV instead of making a phone call to talk to witnesses, spouting off about numerous contradictory theories without providing an facts to back up any of them, and now, relatives who 'remember' new information....that all of a sudden, out of the blue, the investigation is going to turn professional?????

The whole thing is nonsense from beginning to end. Someone told Dompig to wrap up the case but he's so freaking stupid that he never thought the idea that his drug dealer relative being the new "key" witness would be considered suspicious.

All ALE hopes now is that the next person they have "running" the investigation is able to do a more thorough snow job on the American public than Dompig did.

The investigation stunk from the beginning when the aruban police arrested two innocent men from the lies of the 3.

hello people...good morning...all i have to say is ...lion's den theory...shango. period...end of story. huge island of corruption! natalee just blew the the lid off.

JL:

Note that the investigative piece on the VIP/Lion's Den postulated that it was run by the elders...and Shango refers to PVDS an elder...this makes the footage of his conversation with NH at Excelsior all the more interesting.

Now, if these are the 'lions,' then I don't think it would be in Aruba's interest to make a public proclamation:

http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/kouri/051019

It would also support the notion that an indictment of a scapegoat-a lone hyena or two-might be the best possible scenario to mitigate the damage

It would also support the notion that an indictment of a scapegoat-a lone hyena or two-might be the best possible scenario to mitigate the damage

Posted by: COLUMBO | Thursday, April 06, 2006 at 12:20 PM


it makes total sense...also... p.i. findings ...

http://64.69.33.211/nh/Evidentiary-Review.html

The investigation stunk from the beginning when the aruban police arrested two innocent men from the lies of the 3.
Posted by: Kelly3 | Thursday, April 06, 2006 at 11:46 AM
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maybe ... maybe not
It could be the first scapegoats had unbreakable alibis, so ALE went down to the next group in line.

maybe ... maybe not
It could be the first scapegoats had unbreakable alibis, so ALE went down to the next group in line.

Posted by: kaycee77025 | Thursday, April 06, 2006 at 12:24 PM


true...or that perhaps they were just the low men on the totem pole of corruption...brought her to her fate kind of thing...can't talk or they wind up like rene von "headless" or the dude with his legs cut off and in flanes.

can't talk or they wind up like rene von "headless" or the dude with his legs cut off and in flanes.

Posted by: JL | Thursday, April 06, 2006 at 12:26 PM


i go back to furman's comments about joran's interview last night.

There have been a number of spokepersons for the ALE since the beginning. Jan Van Der Stratten was the first. the new guy, well, he isn't new, he was there before.

I read a translation of Diario and I am not sure what happened. They have re organized but it looked like musical morons to me.

What's the difference who is running the investigation? Larry, Mo or Curley?

Dave Holloway wrote a book for one reason --- money -- you know, that thing that makes the world go 'round. It might be more credible had he waited until the case is resolved -- but why would anyone buy the book then.


Yeah, I'm sure he would rather have the money from the book than his daughter back or even know what happened to her.

There will be plenty of books about the Natalee Holloway case, count on it.

money

Posted by: yankee-in-france | Thursday, April 06, 2006 at 12:39 PM


money

ahh..you mean the same reason the case is being covered up...oh i got it. boycott aruba.

The investigation stunk from the beginning when the aruban police arrested two innocent men from the lies of the 3.
Posted by: Kelly3 | Thursday, April 06, 2006 at 11:46 AM

This statement is totally UNTRUE. The security guards were not arrested because of the boys. The boys spoke of security guards in a black shirt -- not black men. The guards were arrested because they had been seen in the area and had possessions of the MB group in their home.


What's the difference who is running the investigation? Larry, Mo or Curley?


Posted by: xxx | Thursday, April 06, 2006 at 12:39 PM

Chemp?

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