All Pro Dad Tylski Should Be Benched

And water boarded, perhaps. Not a pretty read.

JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- Former NFL offensive guard Rich Tylski and his wife were accused of hitting their adopted daughter with a belt, slamming her head on a table and other abuse that left the girl with broken bones in her hands and leg.

The girl later told investigators that she lied about falling down the stairs and she demonstrated on a doll how her mother had pushed her leg over her head until they heard a pop, the report said. The report also stated that Rich Tylski said he had hit the child with a belt.

All Pro Dad, which promotes active fatherhood, listed Tylski as an NFL player involved with the organization on its website. A call to its Tampa office was not immediately returned.

This is special, too. And this: All-Pro Dad encourages family values

I was brought up Catholic and I always believed there was a God, but I didn't have a personal relationship with Him. I figured that I could get to heaven if I was just the best person I could be. I didn't often stop to think, "How good is good enough?"

In high school, God revealed to me in the Bible that unless I came to a point of asking Christ into my heart through prayer--beginning a relationship with Him--I wasn't going to meet Him in heaven. I had to act on my belief.

Since coming to know God, I've learned that without Him I can do nothing. He has blessed me with a beautiful wife (Jane) and wonderful children (Joshua and Jordan); but with His blessing comes the responsibility to encourage them in the ways of the Lord. "I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me" (Phil. 4:13). Playing in the NFL gives me the opportunity to fulfill God's Divine plan. He gives me an opportunity to be a light for Him.

Comments

[Ian]

We really need to stop holding athletes up as role models. The fact that our society pays these people millions of dollars a year to be the best at running a ball down a field is shameful. Athletes are basically overgrown children and the rest of society needs to stop patronizing these people and the sports they play. It's time to start paying teachers (of which I'm not, FYI) better. We're at the point in our development as a species that 'knocking people over' and 'running really fast' are not valuable skills to have. Why not show an over-worked engineer at his desk coming up with a new, cheaper solution for something? Why not show a surgeon developing a new treatment? Why not show child psychologists developing new curricula? Sadly, it's because most people are still Neanderthals that value sports and the skills therein.

[Clare]

Hopefully God's divine plan for Tylski and his wife also includes jail time. Somehow, I don't think God is on his side with this one.

[Fla Girl]

I am shocked by these "allegations", as I have met Mr. Tylski. He played for the Jacksonville Jaguars for 4 seasons. I had the opportunity to get to know him because during my work at a local high school in Jacksonville, Mr. Tylski was involved in the Fellowship of Christian Athletes organization and went to different schools working with local high school athletes.

Although I'm not one to convict someone based on news reports, evidently the abuse was well documented by the local DCF over the last two months and also showed evidence of past abuse and old fractures in the little girls hands. Like Ian said above, again this is another example of how athletes are over stated as role models and definitely overpaid and how you just never know what goes on behind closed doors.

Hopefully the ability to afford the best legal representation and the local fame will not let this couple "get off" without the appropriate punishment. What a shame!

[FloridaPatty]

This is really sad. They wouldn't have made an arrest if it was unfounded.

[Mandarin Resident]

It breaks my heart to see these ludicrous charges against Jane and Rich. Obviously there is a prosecuting attorney out there looking for a high profile case. These are good, christian people that I have known to many years. I would not think twice about leaving either of my children in Jane or Rich's care. As far as things being "well documented by DCF"... we all have seen how that goes. God IS with Jane and Rich, and so are many, many of their friends.

[Lucybelle]

To Mandarin Resident, being a good Christian does not make you a good parent. Obviously the Tylski's have hidden behind the All-Pro Dad, good Christian persona while torturing this child. Where were you Ms. Mandrin Resident while this child's bones were being broken and she waited 8 hours for medical treatment after a break so bad it required surgery to repair? Did you ever look at the damage done to her hand? Well I've seen it and it sickens me. I'm not at all impressed with the Tylski's "reputation" that is "bigger than these charges." What's ludicriou is the fact that not a neighbor, teacher or pediatrician protected her. God may be with Rich and Jane, but he is happier with the medical professionals who finally notified authorities so that this sweet child could finally be protected from these reprehensible people.

[LB]

Don't trust everything you read. I know the Tylski's.... they would never abuse a child. Never. Period.

[Saddened]

The child was removed from the Tylski's home, because her injuries were so indicative of abuse that they were impossible to mistake. I'm horrified by the amount of people who are willing to jump behind two alleged child abusers simply because they attend the same church, or because their kids play in the same little league. This does not make you an expert on what goes on in someone's home. Does it seem likely that the physicians at the hospital who discovered the injuries, DCF who ultimately removed the child from the home because they felt she was in danger, and the prosecuting attorney all have a vendetta against the Tylski's? We should all hope God is with Jane and Rich, because they are going to need His forgiveness.

[Lucybelle]

If the charges against the Tylski's aren't true, I just don't know how to explain the physical injuries that I have seen. Am I not supposed to believe what I see? I raised 3 very active, athletic boys and in those days spanking did not have any stigma associated with it, yet there was only 1 broken finger received in a football game. I just wish one of these supporters of the Tylski's who say they know them so well would explain the injuries that are so visible and why the Tylski's did not seek medical attention for the child's broken bones. You just can't dispute medical fact and physical observation. I believe that if I had known the Tylski's as well as these people say, I would have questioned and reported the visible physical trauma and not been so star struck by all the public hype. Also, how do you address Jane Tylski's arrogant public statement, "Our reputation is bigger than these charges." My God, to equate their reputation with a child's suffering is the most assinine thing I've heard.

[Lucybelle]

I'm really sad that all the publicity and outrage has died down so quickly. The Tylski's are now going about their busines as though they have this thing in the bag. He's back coaching and she continues to make smart remarks. Meanwhile the child continues to suffer. Although she is safe and stable, she is incredibly hurt not just physically, but she knows they don't want her anymore. It's just wrong that she's the only one paying a price for the Tylski's awful behavior.

[Lucybelle]

On January 11, 2007, the second adoption for this child was finalized. She officially joined my son and daughter-in-law, their 5 yr.old adopted daughter, and a multitude of extended family. I am the new proud grandmother. Once the adoption was final we could begin to make appearances at pre-trial hearings. It is amazing the attention the judge will give when you show up wearing a button declaring "Justice for J____!" The up and down of this is that the judge, after 10 months of allowing one delay after another, recused himself because of his personal relationship with the Tylski's attorney. What an outrage!!! However, the new judge is not inclined to drag his feet and has set trial for Sept. 24, 2007. We are having a difficult time with the fact that this child, after all she has endured, must publicly confront the Tylski's in open court. Prior to this testimony being given, she will subjected to a deposition by the Tylski's attorney who has a reputation of being brutal with the victims. I have been appalled to find that she is not allowed to have any family member present, no legal representation, her guardian ad litem and therapist can't accompany her because they are potential witnesses. The best the prosecution can do is to have a kindly second chair attorney be her advocate. Her new mom and dad have been torn by inflicting this emotional trauma on her, but she is determined to provide truthful testimony. She is such a wonderful child and braver than most adults. Hopefully by the end of Sept. the Tylski's will have a new address in a Florida correctional facility!!!

[mandarin resident #2]

Did it ever occur to you that this little girl had a prior history of abuse and that the Tylski's might be innocent? No, just like any other high profile case, we base our decisions on the information fed to us by the media. Why do you think they adoped another child in the first place? So they can vent their frustrations on someone that is not their kin? No, they were trying to help. It is a shame that some of the previous bloggers want to condemn first, then investigate the truth. Please, people get your facts first. Children never lie do they?

[Brianna]

Well, coming from a standpoint of knowing the Tylski family personally, I would have to say that these accusations are ridiculous. This family is nothing but a normal everyday American family with 3 handsome boys and all that Jane has wanted her entire life was a little girl to make their family complete. In this trying she thought it would be the best thing to adopt. Going into the adoption process, the Tylski's were not informed of the little girl's previous mental conditions. At the time, the little girl couldn't eat solid food...does this tell you anything? It tells me that this girl had a pretty messed up life even before she met the Tylski family. So, to the lady that is the new grandma, congrats but remind yourself that she was with another family that did more mental damage than the Tylski's ever did. And for your information, they were trying to get custody of her but Social Services threatened to take away the 3 boys. So, don't make the assumption that Rich and Jane didn't want her. If they didn't want her then why would they have adopted her in the first place?
Growing up in my own household as the youngest girl of 3 older brothers, you get a few bruises here and there and even some broken bones. The fact that everyone is so upset about the girl having these broken bones and immediately blaming the parents is an outrage. Why do the parents always get blamed first when 1) It's a kid and kids are clumsy and 2) She's the youngest trying to hold her own against 3 brothers. Honestly, coming from my standpoint and the knowledge that I have of the Tylski family, I would have to say that I'm on their side and no matter what I will be there for them and supporting them. At this point all anyone can do is wait for the results of the court case.

[Lucybelle]

Brianna, do you expect the Tylskis to admit to you or anyone else who wasn't a witness to their abuse how evil they are? Too bad the Tylskis haven't shared with you the facts contained in the medical reports, the depositions not only of the child, but of others who lived in the home while this child was being abused. Nor have they shared the testimony of the Guardian ad Litem who has been involved with this child since she was 3 mos. old, knew her entire history and totally disputes the Tylskis claim of her so called "previous mental condition." The fact is she was taken care of by a couple who loved her very much and are involved in her life to this day. I have no idea what motivated the Tylskis to adopt a child and frankly don't care. All I know is that they broke her bones, stabbed her in the mouth with forks, poured hot sauce into her ears and up her nose, cracked her head on the table and so on and so on, all because she didn't chew her food the designated number of times. The calculated and premeditated way in which Jane Tylski broke this child's thigh bone is the stuff horror stories are written about. The story that they wanted her back is just another of the lies the Tylskis have told to try to bolster their "poor me" story. Not only should the Tylskis be held accountable for the damage they did to this child, they should never be forgiven for the damage they have caused the untold number of older children who may not have an opportunity to be adopted because of the insinuations the Tylskis have made about adopting. I believe the Tylskis and their high priced attorneys have shot themselves in the foot because they have dragged this crimminal case out so long that the child has become strong, feels completely safe and no longer fears the Tylskis. Her testimony will blow them out of the water and hopefully straight into a nice prison cell.

[Brianna]

Ok fantastic LucyBelle! Where are you getting your facts from? Because I know these people *personally* and there is absolutely no way that this family would do this. You're going to sit there and type a response to me telling me that these parents are the only people capable of doing any harm to this little girl? Think again. Kids are the most clumsy beings of them all, besides a giraffe of course. Being a kid myself at one time I know that bones are very fragile and capable of breaking at even the clumsiest of stunts. In an a total of 10 years of my life I had broken 6 bones in my body, none of which had anything to do with my parents abusing me in any way, shape, or form. What is to say that this is the same case? Granted, I was not there during the obtaining of the injuries, so basically I have no right to say what is and isn't true. However, knowing these people personally gives me the right to fight and defend them however I wish, which is the same right that you and anyone else has. I will defend this family to the end because I know that they are innocent. Based on personal experiences with other adopted kids, who have come from abusive backgrounds, and their adopted family it seems to be the same as it is here. The kid rebels against the parents no matter what and seems to have extensive problems. So, I still hold my ground on the fact that they are innocent.
I'm glad that this child has a family that can secure her and give her what she wants. As for the Tylski's parenting skills, they are strict, but it keeps those kids in line. Those strict rulings they use with their children is never pushed over the line, never has and never will. No matter what any of the media says about the abuse, how do they know first hand? Exactly, THEY DON'T!
As for the trial being strung as long as what it has, this was NOT the Tylski's choice. This was due to the prosecution side(your side) of the court room couldn't find enough evidence to actually prove the Tylski's of anything. So, sorry it is what it is.
I have to say that I am not too fond of you judging these people as though they've already been convicted. Besides, if they are convicted, it's not the judge we should all be worried about. It's all Him and His courtroom in the end. I still stand as I am, which is supporting Jane and Rich through and through.

[Lucybelle]

Brianna - You just hopped on the wrong bandwagon sweetheart. I've been to every pre-trial hearing and know for a fact it isn't the prosecution who is stalling. How many have you been to? In fact, how many appearances have the Tylskis made? The prosecution have their medical facts, they have the child's previous history, they have now got a witness who was present when some of the abuse was inflicted (guess they are lying too). Do you know how difficult it is to break a thigh bone? And as for children being clumsy and hurting themselves, not many hurt themselves the way this child was injured. I raised 3 active, atheletic boys and during their growing up years there was 1 broken bone, a finger that was broken during a football game; my 5 siblings and I grew up on a farm (one of the most dangerous places to be)with parents who were very strict and believed in corporal punishment and yet there were not as many broken bones as this child suffered at the hands of the Tylskis during the short time she was with them. In fact, my brother fell 30' from a tree, striking limbs before hitting the ground and didn't have as many broken bones as this child had. You make it sound like no child gets through life without broken bones. Obviously you missed my earlier point, so I repeat, THIS CHILD DID NOT COME FROM AN ABUSIVE BACKGROUND!!! In the 2 years she has been in our family she has exhibited no "mental problems"; she has suffered NO injuries; eats like a champ; she doesn't have excessive absences from school (she doesn't have any injuries to hide) and is very attached to not just her immediate family, but a very large extended family. She is a well rounded, intelligent, witty and loving child in spite of the horrendous abuse she suffered with the Tylskis. I'll tell you this from listening to the Tylksis attorneys question witnesses (I've personally witnessed this), Jane and Rich will throw anyone under the bus to save their own sorry hides and have even implied that one of their boys may have broken this child's bones. Wonderful parents aren't they? And such a fine example of the good Christians they want all you people to think they are. I suppose, if they were to plead guilty (and there has been some discussion of that) or be found guilty, you people will still think that this is some kind of conspiracy against them. They are egotistical, narcissistic bullies who like to beat up on children and who will do and say anything to make themselves look good. They are movtivated to lie to continue to protect themselves and to stay out of jail. I'm motivated only by seeking the justice this child is entitled to. What's your motivation?

[Brianna]

Lucybelle, I understand that you have been to every single one of the cases. Congrats again, big accomplishment. And as for your question about my motivation for this family, it is solely for the fact that I love these people dearly and I don’t like seeing their name being slashed all over the internet exactly like this! These people deserve some defense for their name besides their attorneys in a courtroom.
As for “throwing people under the bus” is it not right to tell the truth? If so, then honestly you must not be teaching incredible morals to your 3 “athletic sons”. Those people are under oath and MUST tell the truth! I also think you are mistaken by them even blaming their son for the injuries the little girl endured. They are telling the story that is true, which is what honest people do.
It’s great to hear that the little girl is doing well. But how do you think she is doing so well coming from the background she has before any meeting with the Tylski’s? This reason would be because of the Tylski’s HELPING her. Are you informed of the fact that when she came to the Tylski’s she couldn’t eat solid food because she didn’t want to? Obviously you have not been informed. If the child didn’t want to eat solid foods then the chances are SHE WILL REBEL against the Tylski’s and be a bit upset that they wanted her to do something she doesn’t want to. Kids always rebel against parents when they have to do something they don’t want to do. It’s amazing how you can say that this little girl is completely sweet and innocent and would never lie. What dream are you living in? There is not a person on this entire planet that has not lied at least once in their life. And you’re going to expect this child to prove that wrong and has never lied? If it is, you’re certainly in for a rude awakening.
Going along with the whole food thing, it would be very easy for a child’s femur bone to break that is going through a stage of malnutrition. Children’s bones break easily as it is, adding malnutrition on top of that would just add to the vulnerability of a bone breaking. So, yes it would have been easy for her to of broken her femur bone by just a stumble. Also, have you noticed that in the case it says she demonstrated on a doll how Jane pulled her leg over her head and heard a pop…because if this is the story that the little girl plans to stand by, we all will know that she is lying. It doesn’t take a orthopedic doctor to tell you that if a leg is pulled over the head, this would cause a JOINT injury and not a bone injury. Amazing how the slightest of facts can be narrowed down into a lie.
As far as me jumping on the wrong bandwagon, are you so sure about that now?
I will always be on Jane and Rich’s side no matter what. No judgmental grandmother on the face of this earth can change that.

[Lucybelle]

Your quote Brianna.."There is not a person on this entire planet that has not lied at least once in their life." And who benefits the most in this case by lying? Rich and Jane Tylski who abused a child or a child who was abused! People commit perjury under oath all the time when they are fighting for their freedom. This child is free of the Tylskis and has no reason to lie. You are absolutely right about telling the truth and I am extremely proud of the morals and ethics I have instilled in my sons and reinforce in my grandchildren. I also raised them to accept responsibility for their actions, which is area where the Tylskis are totally lacking.

It does take an orthopeadic specialist to determine if her description of how the injury occurred is true. I am not one and I assume you, Jane nor Rich are, but there is at least one who will be testifying for the prosecution as well as the doctor who first examined her when she was admitted to the hospital that it is possible. I suppose twisting fingers until they break is medically impossible, also.

As for her alleged eating disorder, where is any proof other than what the Tylskis report. Even if that is true, does that justify Jane slamming her head into the table, jabbing forks in her mouth and down her throat and pouring hot sauce into her ears and nose. This child now will express her likes and dislikes and does not get her way all the time, but she does not "rebel" as you indicate. But correct me if I'm wrong, if she did rebel, is physical torture the solution?

You base your entire theory of this child's mental and physical condition on the Tylskis' lies. Prior to living with the Tylskis she was in a home with people who had been involved with her before her birth. She was fed, bathed, clothed and trained by these good Christian people for the majority of her life from the time she was 3mos. old. The Guardian ad Litem had been involved in her care from that age also and testifies to the fact that she was not malnourised or suffering from a mental defect prior to being adopted by the Tylskis. There is some question about her nourishment at the time she was removed from the Tylskis, but I don't know that for a fact and to some point base that on the condition of her hair and color of her skin. That being said leads me to tell you that your insinuation that the Tylskis are somehow responsible for her being the wonderful child she is, is the most outrageous and reprehensible comment I've ever heard. I'll use Jane's favorite word for that...ludicrous!!!

Brianna, always is a very long time. So what you are admitting here is that no matter what the facts may be, no matter whether Rich and Jane plead guilty, no matter if a jury who hears ALL the evidence convicts them, you will be on their side? I feel sorry for you, because these monsters don't deserve that kind of loyalty. What if God laid it on your heart and opened your eyes, would you ever admit that you were wrong? If you come to court, if you sit and listen to all the evidence and hear the testimony of people who have no agenda but justice and still feel the way you do, you are to be pitied.

Suffice it to say, you and I will never agree on this topic!

[Brianna]

Lucybelle, I agree with that comment considering that YES no matter what I love those people because they are like family to me. Hypothetically speaking, IF and only IF they do plead guilty, I will forgive them just as He will.
For the comment about the lying, NEITHER is acceptable to me. I don’t care if a person is lying about what they ate for dinner last night, there is no reason to lie. The only reason the little girl would lie would be to get Jane and Rich into even more trouble, which seems to be on the agenda for her.
As for all of the things that Jane is being accused of, you’re telling me that trying to feed a 4 year old (who doesn’t want to be fed) food is the easiest task? Then I guess those days as a mother for you must have been easy. If kids don’t want to eat they twist and turn their heads. Whose to say that when Jane was trying to feed her she turned her head and ended up ACCIDENTALLY poking her? Wait, that cant be an accident though because in today’s society it’s considered child abuse no matter what. In my opinion I think the little girl is exaggerating a lot of these accusations against the Tylski’s. She is a little girl and kids do have the capability of lying. Also, in that home that you talk about her being in before the Tylski’s, those people are not the best of them all. When she came to the Tylski’s she couldn’t eat solid foods because she didn’t know how! I have never seen a toddler not be able to eat solid foods. So, I still stand on the fact that the Tylski’s helped her out a lot.
And as for me being pitied for defending these people, I don’t need anyone’s pity. These people are my family and I love them. No matter what anyone can come up with about these people, I will always love them.
So for once in any of these comments I agree with the fact that we agree to disagree.

[Lucybelle]

O.K., assuming that "He" is God, don't you have to have a pure heart when you ask the Lord for forgiviness? Don't you have to confess your sins and truly repent to be forgiven? In that case, the Tylskis may be in big trouble! As for your "love" for these people, there is a saying that "love is blind" and for most people, the truth is the miracle that restores sight. Guess you can figure where I'm going with that.

Now, to your repeated accusations that the child had not eaten solid food, I've done a little checking and have come across a few people who can contradict that lie of Jane's. Let's see, how about the director of Bundles of Hope (she babysat for the child on many occasions), the teachers at her pre-school, the pediatrician, the other person who was approved as a babysitter and the numerous friends and church members who witnessed her eating things like broccoli, spaghetti, sandwiches, soup (oops, you might call that a liquid). Guess they are all liars too and only the Tylskis tell the truth.

As for your scenario about Jane ACCIDENTLY poking her in the mouth because she was trying to force feed her. What kind of idiot holds a twisting turning child down and tries to force feed them with a fork. Particularly if the child was a newcomer in the home (more likely the house of horrors). I think some sadistic witch might. Yes my children refused to eat on occasion, as have my grandchildren. Guess what, kids don't starve to death by missing one meal and usually they eat pretty well the next time food is offered. Now don't get me wrong, I was a very strict disciplinarian, but NEVER, NEVER have I force fed a child with a fork. Thank God, she didn't ACCIDENTLY poke her eye out. If you were so blinded by your love for them that you didn't see anything wrong with being poked with a fork, you have some responsibility for prolonging the torture this child endured. So don't forget to ask for forgiveness for yourself! You probably don't think that is necessary, since you wouldn't believe the truth if it hit you squarely between the eyes.

[motherof3]

Brianna: You have to realize that you are only hearing what the Tylski's want to tell you.Do you honestly believe that they are going to tell you that they broke this childs leg? That they Broke her hand in multiple places? That they stabbed her in the mouth with a fork? That they poured hot sauce in her ears? That they hit her way too hard with the belt?GET REAL LADY.They are blaming the child for the injuries and lying to save there sorry asses.You are hardly any better than them if you ask me because you also sound as if you are blaming this little girl. SHAME ON YOU.I also want to correct you on some misinformation. The Tylskis did not try to get her back after she was removed from the home.They asked for there parental rights to be terminated, not to try to keep their 3 boys but because in their sick twisted minds they thought that maybe this would just go away. If one of my children "lied" about me abusing them i would never terminate my rights to that child. I would fight for my child because I love them. I would do everything possible to keep that child.UNLESS OF COURSE I WAS A MONSTER AND REALLY DID ABUSE THE CHILD LIKE YOUR WONDERFUL CHRISTIAN FRIENDS DID. One other thing. How could you, after knowing this little girl not support her and be on her side and want justice for her.How could you turn your back on her? AGAIN,SHAME ON YOU!!!!!!

[Brianna]

Okay well since we’re taking this route…if love is blind then does that only correspond to me and me alone? Or can it go both ways Lucybelle? Hmmm…well I can see that it can. Honestly, I do not think that I need to be asking for forgiveness from God because even Jesus said at one point “love your enemies and don’t place judgment upon others”. Well if you’re so worried about me repenting my sins to God, maybe you should look at yourself a little bit first. I am not the one judging these people YOU are when it’s not our job to judge others.
And how exactly do you expect that the little girl would have eaten those solid foods at this church function you talk about? Could it be because Jane and Rich restored her to normalcy in eating those solid foods? I would say yes.
Also, you talk about how I wouldn’t know the truth if it hit me squarely between the eyes? I guess I could say the same for you considering you’re believing that this little child is being completely and totally truthful throughout this entire scheme. Wow, you’re gullible. Give you a sweet innocent smile and that child could get you to believe she rode on a magic carpet last night with Aladdin.
I still stand my ground on the fact to believe the things that Rich and Jane have said because they are not the people to lie their way out of anything. If they did it, they would have come out and said GUILTY. And considering they haven’t done this, I guess that means they have something to prove their innocence. These people are not stupid, they know that if they committed the crime they would be caught and they would have pleaded guilty by now. So, on the inference that they do know that they can prove their innocence for something they didn’t do, this adds to my decision to be behind them all the way.
The Tylski’s are amazing people and nothing you can say will get me to believe otherwise. They are my family and no one messes with my family.
So, take your judgment calls to purgatory and see what judgment He has for you.

[Brianna]

WOW LADY! You’re telling me to get real?! You’re believing a CHILD!!! And if you want to talk about a Christian monster, LOOK IN THE MIRROR! You’ll find one inside yourself considering you’d be willing to tell a child that it is okay to lie. Jane and Rich are the most lovable people and I love these people no matter what.

[motherof3]

I suppose that the millions of children that have been abused in the world are lying and the parents that did it are the most lovable people.I guess that not only is this child lying but the ER doctors and the x rays are lying and the witness that came forward is lying in fact everyone is lying except the TYLSKI'S.You are what is wrong with this world today.You go ahead and defend these monsters and blame the innocent.You know you can love your friends and forgive them and support them but what about the child? Oh thats right shes just a liar. Its funny that after 2 years her story hasnt changed even when the questions were asked over and over in different ways.You dont have to worry about your story when the truth is on your side. OH before you get started i know the first time she was questioned she lied about how the leg was broken. She went with the story mommy dearest told her to tell everyone. but after that she told the truth. She was 6 at the time and not once has her story changed.If you know anything about children then you know that its pretty impossible to make up something at the age of 6 and never ever have it change.Unless its the truth something in your story will always change. But like I said this child has the truth on her side hopefully justice will be on her side too. Youre comment about me believing a child really disturbs me. I think that is a really sad statement. It says a lot about you.

[Brianna]

OK well you disturb me! It's people like you that see a child hurt and immediately accuse the parents. As I said in one of my previous comments, kids are clumsy. We were all kids at one time and clumsier than ever during those years. And you sit there an tell me that every bruise and broken bone ever obtained on a child is because of the parents? This is an outrage! Why don’t you take your 3 kids you have and put them in a plastic bubble? Maybe that way you cant be accused of child abuse when they get a bruise or a broken bone

[Lucybelle]

Gosh Brianna it looks like we've stirred up another misguided person. You know the thing I just can't get over, is that you can't believe a child who was what 4 through 6 when all this occurred. Again, why would she lie and why now would another person who was living there when some of the abuse now lie too. If it took a sweet smile to make me gullible and believe her, what did Jane and Rich give you to make you believe them. I think if I were Jane and Rich, I'd be so devasted by all these allegations against me that I would have a very difficult time going to Hawaii shortly after the child was taken away. I also wonder if Jane will admit to her high school buddies that she has been charged with multiple counts of felony child abuse. My most fervent prayer is that she will not be able to attend her 20th reunion because she is doing time in the state prison. Oh by the way, I've said a lot of things about Jane and Rich,but I never called them stupid. Evil, but certainly not stupid. They have been able to feed gullible people like you a ration of lies and go on living their lives as though nothing has happened. I'd be willing to bet you've lost more sleep over this than they have and not because they are innocent. It's called EVIL through and through. I can't imagine anything more devasting than being charged with hurting one of my children. Then to go out an perpetrate such heinous lies about that innocent child. Wow they are incredible. I would have more compassion for them, if they had kept their mouths shut and not tried to make a mentally disturbed liar out of this child. Where is their compassion not only for her, but their boys. By the way, your genius reasoning totally missed the point that she was attending the church funtion with someone before she lived with the Tylskis.

[Lucybelle]

Now that we've attracted some attention, I've got to get quicker at this. No one in any post, except for you Brianna, has claimed that every child who gets hurt was abused. But its a fact that this girl was. When she was interrogated for 2 hours by the Tylskis attorneys, she never flinched, her story never changed and when she was questioned about how she hurt her elbow, she didn't blame Jane and Rich, she told the truth that it was an accident. If she were the big liar Brianna wants everyone to believe she is, why wouldn't she blame Jane and Rich for that too? I suppose you will say that was part of her master plan to miss lead all of us gullible people who believe her. Very clever!!

[Brianna]

OK these people are my family! they are not bribing me in any way to defend my family name. It's something of courtesy to defend my family no matter what.
I never said that every child that gets hurt is abused. I was trying to make the point that when children get hurt the parents are immediately blamed, whether it was their fault or not
I do believe that this child knows how to swindle her way out of something, considering she gets so much attention if she lies. Are you aware that during the time when social services were questioning her, they could have told her a reasonable story to say when she went up on the stand and she could believe it is the truth? Heck, for the longest time we all believed that Santa Claus was a guy who gave everyone presents through a chimney! What is there to say that social services didn't put it into her head that her lies were the truth? If you pound information into a child's head long enough they will eventually believe it to be true. And I don't agree with this that your not denying the fact that this child is lying. You're teaching her amazing morals by saying it's okay to lie as long as you're on the right end of the argument.

[deegrandma]

Ok. I have been reading all of your comments about this issue. I don't know any of you but I think that lucybelle may be in for a rude awakening. What are you going to do when this "innocent" child turns the tables on your family like she did on this one? It's going to happen. The first time something doesn't go her way, well she knows the attention that she will get. I have seen this first hand with people I know that have adopted hard to place children. In fact one family adopted this little boy and was never told of his medical history. Because of what his birth mother did while she was carrying him, well this poor child is ADHD, bipolar and has fetal alcohol syndrome. They were NEVER told. I have seen what my good CHRISTIAN neighbor has gone through with her adopted daughter. This child, because she didn't get her own way, accused her mother, the good CHRISTIAN, of beating her and other issues. Never happened. A guy that I worked with adopted a boy, who he had as a foster child, and this young man knew how to work the system. Everything was ok until he became a teenager and the first time that he couldn't go out with his friends, guess what? He told people, the right people, how his Dad beat him. This guy had to hire an attorney to defend him and his wife of these charges. Guess what, they didn't happen. Thank goodness all charges were dropped because this kid lied! As far as this young girl hasn't deviated from her statement from the beginning and you think that this is a fact. I worked for an attorney for many years. They go over the previous testimony to refresh the clients memory of what they stated before. Now you are believing what the Florida authorities are saying about all of this. Is this the same Florida system that places children. The same system that seems they can't keep track of the children that they place in foster care? I know that you love your grandchildren as I love my grandchildren. That's what grandmothers are for. We spoil the grandchildren and love them dearly. It seems that you had pass judgement on these people before this trial had even started. Now what is this guilty before proven innocent. Isn't it innocent before proven guilty? I can see that Brianna is defending her family just as you are. You both love your families very much. But, children that have been in the system knows how to work the system no matter how old they are. Also, when adopting a child, the social workers do make unannounced visits. Makes me wonder if they did and if they say they did if it is true. After all the Florida child welfare system has a lot to be desired. They have been under fire for losing many children in their foster care system.

[Brianna]

Well, lucybelle it looks like I'm not the only person that actually thinks about this situation the way I do. Looks like there's more than one instance where this has happened. The kid rebels against the parents for doing something they don't want to do. And I agree with the comment made about the Florida child service system. They more worried about a football player and his wife abusing their kid(which most likely this was brought about because of the fact that he was somewhat of an idol) instead of keeping tabs on kids who get "lost" and wind up dead.

[lucybelle]

Well now it is all crystal clear. The reason you are defending them is you are one of them. Now that is something to be real proud of. I'm really sorry for giving you the benefit of just being a loyal friend. You do share the responsibility for what happened to this girl. I guess the whole lot of you believe that the treatment she received was just normal. Another thing, for how many years was she part of your "family?" The fact that you have totally turned your back on her and perpetrate this crap about her speaks volumes about your character. Your imaginary story about social services is really a joke since they have spent very little time with her since the beginning. And please tell me why they want to falsely accuse Jane and Rich. I guess it's another part of the big conspiracy to get Jane and Rich because they are so important. Don't compare this tragedy to a folk story about a jolly old elf doing good. You probably believe that if the Tylskis did hurt her, she deserved it because she wasn't really part of the "family." Thank God she wasn't, maybe she has a chance to grow up to be a decent person, unlike your family.

[Kristine]

You keep claiming these people are family and you will love them and support them no matter what. Ted Bundy's parents loved him too. When the truth does come out, and it will, will you still say the child is lying? I think you and everyone else that turned their back on this child in the name of the Tylskis will owe her an apology even though it's hard to apologize for being ignorant.

Jane Tylski is evil. Rich Tylski is stupid for standing by her. May they both get what is coming to them.

[Brianna]

Holy Shit lady! You need some medical help. I am a part of this family, however I was not present when any of this alleged "abuse" was happening. As far as my opinions go, I honestly think that Jane and Rich are being stabbed in the back for trying to do something good. They tried taking a little girl and giving her a safe house to live in, but since she was going to be a snotty nosed brat because she had to do things she didn't want to do, she gets to ruin people's lives? Honestly lucybelle your judgment upon my entire family is not appreciated whatsoever. I hope this same thing doesnt happen to you and your family when this little girl doesn't get what she wants and all of a sudden you're the bad people because you tried to do what was best for her. But there are ways of assuring that something like this doesn't happen to your family, give the little girl everything that she wants even to a point of letting her commit the biggest of crimes. That is the best way to keep yourself out of trouble. You just remember that you're the one that will have to deal with this little monster you're creating her to be. Encourage the lying to get yourself out of trouble now, wait until she pulls all of this on you.

[Brianna]

Ok blame these people for having taken in a girl who they thought they could give a good life to. YEA ya caught em now! What assholes they are! Someone actually trying to do some good in society today with a child.

[lucybelle]

Dear deegrandma..this child was not part of the Florida child welfare system. She was adopted by the Tylskis through a private adoption agency. She lived in the same home with the same people from the time she was 3 mos old until she was given to the Tylskis. Her biological parents voluntarily gave her up with the hope that she could be provided for in a way they weren't able to. Sure they had problems, but she never lived in them. The Guardian ad Litem who was appointed to protect her interests has testified that she was never abused by her bioparents, they were just unable to care for her, nor was she abused before being place with the Tylskis. I believe in the criminal justice system and the theory within that system that you are innocent until proven guilty, but I'm not part of the system. I am a witness to a heinous crime that was committed against an innocent child who was only just turned 4. I am sure for every horror story you can tell about adopted children turning on their parents, there are that many and more who don't and probably an equal number of biological children who turn on their parents. We are living in very difficult times to be a parent. I hope you never have to go through this, because then you would understand that the lies the Tylskis are perpetrating have even larger ramifications than just what affects them or us. It takes away opportunities for untold numbers of abused children to be rescued.

[Kristine]

Thanks for sealing the deal baby. Your true feelings about this snotty little brat have finally surfaced. Gee, I wonder if your feelings mirror Jane's feelings?

[Brianna]

HA Kristine...Jane loved that child but that same child that she loved exaggerated the truth(just a tid bit) and has now ruined their entire family. But then again none of you care about that because this child is so sweet and innocent and children don't have the capability of lying about anything when they don't get their way.

[lucybelle]

Brianna, you are making assumptions you know nothing about. She is not catered to, nor given everything she wants. She lives in a very busy and disciplined household. She responds appropriately to discipline without bitterness or vindictiveness. And what a lowlife you are to stoop to calling a little kid names. I would hope the Tylskis could defend themselves..this child needs others to do it for her. You people are mean, evil idiots. By the way I just love your Christian vocabulary.

[lucybelle]

Oh, Kristine, she doesn't need an apology for those lowlifes. She is much to good for that.

[Brianna]

Ok I want everyone on this entire website to read this…IF Jane and Rich never loved this little girl, then what would the point of adopting her have been? So, that they could have someone to beat up on occasionally? The man is 6’7” and plays in the NFL he does enough hitting at his own job that he wouldn’t need to use his kids. The truth is, and no one on here can say this isn’t true, that Jane and Rich wanted this little girl to give her a good home. Hence, the point of adopting her. To everyone who sits there and blames these people for being monsters and assholes for doing this…WOAH horrible people they are! Did anyone ever think of the other children that already exist in this family? There are 3 boys. Child services are obligated to go to the homes of adoptive parents to survey the home and the existing children for any signs of abuse that already exist in the household. Why would the Tylski’s need another kid to beat up on if they already had 3? THEY WOULDN’T! Child services surveyed the home to make sure that it was good home to place this little girl into. The Tylski’s have never abused and never will abuse any child of theirs. End of the story.
As for my Christian vocabulary, I love to see people like you that will use Christ as an escape for you not being the best of a person. Because you are a Christian you get to do whatever you want? People like you make me vomit because it's getting old with the whole "I'm a Christian so what I say is right and whatever I do is amazing...yada yada yada." I believe in God and Christ but I don't need them to fight my battles for me.

[Kristine]

The only one that ruined the Tylski family was Jane with some help from Rich. Jane knows this as does Rich. Things must be pretty tense in that household. Apparently their reputation can't topple the overwhelming evidence that is going to convict them. I truly believe that all the children are the losers in this tragedy.

I also feel sorry for you Brianna. What a terrible position to be in. Your family member is just plain screwed up and evil. You know deep down in side you question her story. Now that other people in the household have come forward to tell the truth, you must really be putting two and two together.

Shame on Jane for putting other family members in the position where they have to tell the truth and rat her out. Thank God they are brave enough to do this.

[lucybelle]

Brianna..you again assume you know something that has never been said. I never said I was a Christian. You however, have repeatedly referred to "Him" and how Jesus has instructed us to not judge. From what I've seen of the all-pro dad, fellowship of Christain athlete Rich and the rest of his holier than thou followers, proclaiming Christainity is perceived as the biggest bunch of hypocrites in existence. No tolerance for anyone who doesn't believe they way they do.

Have you ever read the book "A Child Called It?" Although the child in this true story was not adopted, he was the only one of 5 children who was abused. It happens in many families that one child will be singled out to be the punching bag for a nutcase parent.

As for Jane loving this child, it sure didn't take her long to get over it and get on with her life. Losing a child you love is something you never recover from and it appears she is just fine...mean and evil as ever.

[Kristine]

Why does anyone lie? To protect their own ass or to gain something.

Hmmmmmm- just doesn't add up now does it?????

Lastly, why would Jane and Rich adopt this poor little girl?? Could it be all about the reputation that preceeded them. They are such do gooders you know. But as you have already stated, this child is a snotty-nosed little brat. She's a monster who gets upset when she doesn't get her way. It's obvious about the family's feelings for her. You are a true reflection of what is wrong with Jane Tylski.

[lucybelle]

Sorry, it's late and I'm tired, but I had intended to add one other thing. Rich is not an NFL football player...he is a washed up has been. Maybe his frustration over not being able to punch on people his own size is what compelled him to beat up on the child (or allow it and encourage it). Yeah, he gets my vote for man of the year. Jerk!!!

[Kristine]

Well Breanna,

I need to go to bed now so I can get up and take care of my children in the morning. I know that I'll sleep well with a clear conscience. I'm not sure if I can say the same for you.

[Brianna]

Wow..you both go ahead and continue to pass judgment on my family members. I hope that something like this doesn't happen to your family. Because if anything like this does happen to your family, I would expect the same treatment others give you as you give to Jane and Rich. Then who will feel like the real hypocrite? And you cannot say that something like this will never happen in your family, because my family did and look at where it leaves all of us. Then you are automatically stereotyped because you belong to that family and are a sinful person because you defend your family name. You all just wait because life has it's little curves and turns involved.

[Kristine]

You are not a sinful person for wanting to defend and believe in your family. Sin comes in when you are willing to throw a child to the wolves to defend an adult. As I have already stated I feel sorry for you. I would not want to be in that position. If this case makes it to trial, you will sit in that courtroom shocked and disgusted. As I move my feet to make way for you to go get sick in the bathroom, I will once again feel sorry for you. You didn't know any better. Ask Rich how he felt hearing the details in the courtroom for the first time.

[Lucybelle]

Brianna...my family has been there and when the evidence was presented, no one in our family defended the bastard. Guess you will ask where was my family loyalty..it was with the children who were abused.

[mcgoogle]

this has become a pretty vicious fray and i'm a little behind. i only want to make one comment relating to a post yesterday when someone claimed the tylskis weren't holding up the trial. there is what is referred to as the right to a speedy trial. if they truly wanted this over, all the had to do was demand that right.

[Brianna]

OK well if I am such a bad person for not turning my back on my own family, then I guess you could say I'm guilty as charged. But in my opinion, you and your family turning you back on your own is disgusting to me! IF Rich and Jane are convicted, they made a mistake and I will forgive them because they are my family and that is what family does for one another. I have never turned my back on them this far and I will continue to stand behind them strongly in the end. People have always said that blood is thicker than water and never turn on your family because if something goes wrong, they should always be there for you. Your family is the only group of people on this planet that a person actually feels secure with and can count on no matter what. As for you lucybelle, I feel sorry for that person in your family that was convicted and you left him high and dry with absolutely no support. With family like you, what would anyone need back stabbing enemies for?