Natalee Holloway - New Effort Being Launched

As I mentioned the other day, it seems new resources are on the way from Holland to assist in the Holloway investigation.

ORANJESTAD, Aruba (AP) — Police have been dispatched from the Netherlands to assist in the search for missing American teenager Natalee Holloway, including a televised re-enactment of her last known hours on the island, officials said Wednesday.

The Dutch television program, to air on April 11 in Aruba and the Netherlands, will trace her movements on the Dutch Caribbean island and offer a toll-free, multi-lingual hot line for people to call with tips, the Aruba Public Prosecutor's Office said.

Comments

[Sgt. York]

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I don't understand why thousands of people aren't crawling all over that island looking for Natalee (to get that $250,000-USD reward if nothing else). I'm sure a lot of Arubans would love that kind of cash - so why aren't they out looking? If I lived there, I would spend every weekend and all of my free-time checking out likely locations.
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[Chuck Dunleavy]

The genius Joran and his trusty sidekicks Depaak and Satich continue to fool all, they are the greatest criminals this side of Oceans 11.

I'm glad another thread was started so Harold now how something to do and will continue to feel important by putting everyone else.

[Robert Teal]

Well I see we are still out to get Joran and evidence will be invented if there is none. Please let us deal in the facts and evidence otherwise we are a lynch mob. Now every nut in the universe will call up. Get the wild geese ready for the big chace!!!

[Skye]

Dan,
I heard that Dutch TV, program "2 VANDAAG", interviewed Paul and Anita van der Sloot and Arlene Schipper today for their comments on Dompig's CBS interview.

Have you got any information about that interview?

[dnichols]

This is the latest article by Clint Van Zandt regarding Natalee and is well worth reading...

:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12040436/

[Henk Ermes]

Natalee Holloway on Dutch tv on 11 april 2006

The tv-programma detection requested on the disappearance of the American Natalee Holloway at the request of the Public Prosecution Service Aruba and the arubaanse attention spends police force on 11 April. In the hope "to the study into the disappearance of the American scholiere of giving a impetus" the Dutch programme has been integrated. The retransmission is see both in the Netherlands and on Aruba. According to Public Prosecution Service in the programme a reconstructie is shown of the night on which Holloway disappeared and some days for that. The research team expects that there are persons that important information have on the matter, but with that never earlier forward has come. tip donors can anonymously by means of tel. or Internet their information lost in the Netherlands and are possible in Dutch, papiamento and English is spoken to.

http://nieuws.geenstijl.nl/

Henk Ermes
henk@infopost.nl

[charles]

Here is the fragment on the 2 vandaag TV show

http://www.2vandaag.nl/index.php?module=PX_Story&func=view&cid=2&sid=30455

[FloridaPatty]

I have so many thoughts on this case and these 3 guys but I'll leave one.

If everyone saw Natalee get into the car, and the three boys all admit that Natalee was in the car,
and there is no dispute that Natalee was in the car... why was no evidence found that Natalee was in the car?

No hair.
No fingerprints.
No chemicals linked to her at all.

One would think they would have atleast found something because we knew she was there.

Hmmmm.

The Evidence Fairies must have been in Aruba.

[Kat_Gram]

A re enactment of her last known hours ! ! !
What a gouda idea. ! !

Will they have three vesions of it ?
With 20 to 30 minor variations ?

[Kat_Gram]

http://refugeesunleashed.net/viewtopic.php?t=235

[Arubaanse]

That was pretty funny:)

[Sgt. York]

The problem is NOT that Joran innitially lied and then changed his story. The issue is the massive continuous changing fabrications and overt lies.

1. When first questioned Joran claims to not know Natalee.

2. Joran claims he and the K-bros dropped her off at the hotel and that he last saw her with a black security guard.

3. Joran claims the K-bros dropped him off at his house alone and that the K-bros drove off with her passed-out in the back seat of the car.

4. Joran claims the K-bros dropped him off at the beach and later left her on the beach. When Deepak comes to pick him up, Joran asserts that Deepak went back to the beach and then raped and killed her.

5. Joran claims he left her on the beach - nothing happened.

Variations on the story are - Joran claims he walked home from the beach, Deepak drove him home, Satish drove him home. Other variations include the lighthouse... I believe there are more variations.

These are lies that Joran has made.
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[MF]

With all due respect Sgt. York, where were you these last months. Did you know the suspects lied in the beginning? And what we have been hearing the last three months, the ALE and FBI already knew?

There are a lot of archives out there, so you better start reading. Thanks.

[Kat_Gram]

That little story was done by Moonshadow and it was mentioned on the inside blog.

I was just laffing at it. I have some of those on incrediimail and I use it for family, This
MoonShadow poster is just a scream ! !!

[kaycee77025]

One would think they would have atleast found something because we knew she was there.

Hmmmm.

The Evidence Fairies must have been in Aruba.

Posted by: FloridaPatty | Wednesday, March 29, 2006 at 07:25 PM
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2 things, Flo
1) How do YOU know there was no evidence of Natalee in the car?
2) Since everyone agrees Natalee was in the car, evidence she was there is meaningless unless there is some evidence of a crime. For example, Natalee's blood.

[Bene]

Nicely put Sgt. York , we need to focus on the tree and not the branches.

Yes the lies were made on the intial investigation but it is enough to assume something is really wrong here. Nothing can be said that would now eliminate these boys as suspects.

[FloridaPatty]

Kat thanks for the humor.

Kaycee. I'm using your words (and mine) "since everyone agrees Nataleee was in the car, no evidence that she was there is" meaningful because it should have been present but is not. Given a crime is suspected, traces of her presence should exhist where she was known to have been.

And Kaycee I don't know for a fact that nothing of Nat was found in the car other than they thought blood was present and it turned out to be cleaning fluid.

Luminol anyone? I would hope the FBI was able to examine the K's car. Anyone have a confirmation of that or was it just the ALE?

[JP]

2) Since everyone agrees Natalee was in the car, evidence she was there is meaningless unless there is some evidence of a crime. For example, Natalee's blood.
Posted by: kaycee77025 | Wednesday, March 29, 2006 at 09:08 PM
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I disagree. While absence of evidence could imply some deliberate cover-up, my main point of disagreement would be with 2). I would not be brazen enough to say that any evidence that does not indicate the occurence of a crime would be meaningless . For example, if NH vaginal secretions were present, there is no crime per se, but it tears holes in stories Joran and the others have told the officials, which is hardly meaningless.

[FloridaPatty]

JP good point.
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TV seems to be unanoumous.
Playing the show for Arubans? Who on Aruba doesn't know about Natalie Holloway?
Tourist who were on the island from Holland so they produce it soley in Dutch?
Questions that beg an answer.

Suggestions:
-Air it in the US
-Make it in English as well as Dutch
-joint effort between the states and the Dutch.
BUT
too little too late. If $250K won't rattle cages than what do they expect?

[jack]

if NH vaginal secretions were present, there is no crime per se, but it tears holes in stories Joran and the others have told the officials, which is hardly meaningless.

Posted by: JP | Wednesday, March 29, 2006 at 09:52 PM

while i dont intend to sound gross , but deepak's June 9th statement says that Joran had his hands inside Natalee's skirt so any secretions found on the car backseat would hardly 'tear holes' in the amigoes' stories.

[Ripley]

Florida Patty,

And who do you suggest should pay for all of this , the Dutch taxpayers ??
If Beth Twiddy isn't satisfied ,maybe she should spend some of that donation money she's been collecting for the search of her daughter.

[counter-psyops agent]

Joran didn't have sex with Natalee on the beach because either he is sexually impotent, asexual or GAY. These 'cuentos chinos' that he didn't have a condom with him are too bizarre to believe. He had at least two chances to buy a condom before he was alone with Natalee at the beach, the first when he left with natalee in the car and they could have gone to a 24-hour grocery store and the second when they went to Joran's house to do whatever they did there. My conclusion is that Joran knew that Natalee was meeting someone at the beach and that's why he couldn't have sex with her and had to leave her there. This could sound like fantasy but it may have been Natalee's real boyfriend. Natalee may have ran away with him and thats why when Beth Twitty arrived at Aruba one of the first things she said was: natalee come back, we can still talk about it. There is too much at stake here in reference to money and thats why everybody is going to write some books to justify some sudden increase in wealth, including both parties the Twitty family and the Van der Sloot and Kalpoe family.

Regards

[JW]

Joran Guilty
Deepak Guilty
Satish Guilty
Paulus Guilty
Steven Guilty

[counter-psyops agent]

America guilty
Everybody is guilty
If you don't have any sins, throw the first stone

[kescah]

when Beth Twitty arrived at Aruba one of the first things she said was: natalee come back, we can still talk about it.
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What's this? That's new to me. Anyone else hear of that?

[Lexy]

A re enactment of her last known hours ! ! !
What a gouda idea. ! !

Will they have three vesions of it ?
With 20 to 30 minor variations ?

Posted by: Kat_Gram | Wednesday, March 29, 2006 at 07:36 PM

LOL...good one Kat.

[natalee's wannabe bitch]

This thang is like a soap opera/wrestling..full of smoke and mirrors. I hope one day the truth will come out and the media will focus on something else, for example the american soldiers dying everyday in Iraq or the national debt raising to a desproportionate and exuberate level.Please people get a life and stop worrying about natalee..there are more important things in life.

[natalee's black boyfriend]

http://refugeesunleashed.net/viewtopic.php?t=235

this link is funny..read it..

[kate]

"Investigators believe there are people on the island who have important information about the case but have not yet come forward, the prosecutor's office said in a statement."

and a re-enactment is going to spur them to come forward. is it sweeps week in holland. but poor dave said the tv show had a 33% success rate. i hope they do solve it for his and beth's sake. however, i doubt any witness will come forward, not with paulus and his friends buds lurking in the shadows.

[justice for all]

Kate, have you ever been to Aruba? I surely think not.But the matter of fact is that Paulus and Joran ain't shit here..they dont have any kind of influence. So if there are any real witnesses out there I don't think that they would be afraid of those two losers, on the contrary they will gladly and proudly come forward to put an end to this drama and save aruba's reputation.

[Arubaanser]

Everybody thinks that they have some kind of influence here but they are nothing here. My family has more influence then them here and I am not kidding!

[justice for all]

arubaanser..hire some hitmen/torturers and kidnap joran so he can talk,will you?hehe

[Arubaanse]

arubaanser..hire some hitmen/torturers and kidnap joran so he can talk,will you?hehe

Posted by: justice for all | Thursday, March 30, 2006 at 04:18 AM

Are you kidding me?? I will be more then happy to do it myself! hahahha

[cia's bitch]

http://refugeesunleashed.net/viewtopic.php?t=235

Indeed natalee's black boyfriend,its hilarious

[aruba]

hey arubaanse, ki asl bo tin?

[Arubaanse]

hey arubaanse, ki asl bo tin?

Posted by: aruba | Thursday, March 30, 2006 at 04:29 AM

19/female/Noord ( Aruba), esey bo kiermen?

[Aruba]

y con bin bo ta lanta ainda?

[aruba]

Btw..dimi ta 28/m/st.cruz

[Arubaanse]

paso mi ta chat cu mi tata na hulanda y abo?

[aruba]

ami ta trahando awor..y ki scol bo ta bai?

[Arubaanse]

Awor aki mi no ta bayendo scol...mi a take un anja break y anja aki mi ta bai hulanda pa mi bai Haagse hogeschool na Den Haag. Aki 4 luna mi ta bai y mi ta spera di bin back aki 4 anja!

[aruba]

Esta coincidencia..ami tambe tin pensa di bai haagse hogeschool pa studia bestuurskunde..y ki opleiding bo ta bai studia einan?

[Arubaanse]

Manager di zorg pero mi tambe twt tin pensa di bai studia bestuurskunde...Master!!

[aruba]

esta bon..porta nos por hasta sinta hunto den klas tene otro pa asina por cope cu e friu..btw...bo tin msn messenger?

[TJ]

Subject: Continuation of yesterday comments
Subject: Exposed Testimony gets clearer!

From the latest Refugee transcription (christina):

http://www.refugeesunleashed.net/viewtopic.php?t=265&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=75

Kathrine Madison Whatley 6/2
On Sunday night 05/29/2005 Whatley advised? a group of .... ate dinner.Holloway had a couple of alcoholic drinks .....
Holloway was drinking "red fires" which had "151" in them
......though she had a couple of drinks at dinner, Holloway "was not out of her mind".
While at dinner, Holloway was making a bet with whom Holloway would hook up Sunday night.
Whatley advised she did not actually make a bet
but just talking amongst other? girls.
Whatley thought that Holloway would hook up with Kevin Broday because Holloway was flirting with him.
After dinner, Whatley went to the ... casino with Holloway, Broughton, Merrill and Thorton? .
McV? had lost money the casino during the trip and
they went to the casino to help McV? win...They sat at a blackjack table. Holloway was not
playing....

Comment: There is some serious detective work going on over at the Refugees.

With Aloha,
# Posted by harry at 03/30/2006 12:06 am - reply- forum

[roy]

Dan is going to give you two a warning about using any other language than English on his Blog. Arubaanse conta?

[Arubaanse]

si...eta richarlinebikker@hotmail.com

[TJ]

Subject: FBI statement
Refugees has a thread dedicated to an FBI statement given by trip participant Lee Ashford Broughton (someone has blown up the statement to make it more legible). IMO, this is an interesting development...and technology is wonderful, lol

http://www.refugeesunleashed.net/viewtopic.php?t=265

..." christina wrote:
Thanks for the stills, I'll sumerize what I could read in the Lee Ashford Broughton statement:
The daily routine for Broughton and Holloway was .... and get an alcohol drink
and go to the ocean? around .... morning. At around .... they would return to their room.... At 6:00 p.m. Broughton and Holloway would get ready to go....
dinner. After dinner Broughton and Holloway would go ....
Saturday, May 28, 2005; Holloway became very intoxicated and ... had to be escorted back to her room by Kevin Broday.
During the morning hours on Sunday, May 29, 2005 .... drinking mixed drinks called "red fires". The drinks .... Bacardi 151 and diet coke.
Holloway became .... and her friends told her to slow down. Holloway and
Broughton continued to drink troughout the day....

# Posted by dayo gould at 03/29/2006 07:34 pm - reply- forum

[Arubaanse]

Dan is going to give you two a warning about using any other language than English on his Blog. Arubaanse conta?

Posted by: roy | Thursday, March 30, 2006 at 04:48 AM

Sorry Dan...Hey Roy!! I'm fine...thank for asking and how are you?

[roy]

I am okay. The only bad thing is that I got a 'sota' in the casino.