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Why did she wait so long to discuss it?

Same question. What purpose is served by disclosing this information on an US-television. Wasn't this reported to ALE a long time ago and if not, why not? Seems if she had, the individual would have been arrested a long time ago and interrogated. Looks like another desperate attempt by Fox to keep this story going, obviously they believe the thing has some mileage left.

She probably did report it to ALE. They probably ignored it.

Excuse me, wasn't Beth leading the investigation and deciding what was relevant and what wasn't. Anything that didn't involve the boys was not relevant to her.

the guy appears to be some flasher that everyone and thier dog knows about on aruba. apparently even tim miller's crew spotted the guy with no pants and turned his name in to the authorities. the perv must be retarded to have still been hanging around. tracey's beef appears to be that the police never got back to her after she gave her report to the detective. that's about par isn't it. the guy must have had an alibi regarding natalee for it appears to be old news. it's just fox going for ratings - omg, it's the flasher / not.

Anything that didn't involve the boys was not relevant to her.

Posted by: yankee-in-france | Monday, March 13, 2006 at 03:31 AM

Or to the ALE.....

RE:
It was reported that the individual has been spotted and information, including his license plate was past along to Aruban authorities perhaps by the family of Natalee Holloway.

Excuse me, wasn't Beth leading the investigation and deciding what was relevant and what wasn't. Anything that didn't involve the boys was not relevant to her.
Posted by: yankee-in-france | Monday, March 13, 2006 at 03:31 AM

No, Beth is not ALE and she had no control over the investigation.

More BS to keep attention away from the casino$.....I noticed Dompig launched his dunes ruse just as Tim Miller was ready to initiate water search-which Dompig called off

"Excuse me, wasn't Beth leading the investigation and deciding what was relevant and what wasn't."
Posted by: yankee-in-france | Monday, March 13, 2006 at 03:31 AM


Your supposition runs counter to her interest....which is to maintain that JVDS is lying.....Why would she then introduce reasonable doubt for him if it was her intention of manipulating the investigation to gain a favorable outcome???

PFFFF... frankly nothing surprises me in this case anymore. One thing is for sure: we will never know the real truth wath happened to Natalee and her remains will never be found, it's a shame but that's reality. This was a lost cause from the beginning and it will never be solved unless one of the suspects is so stupid to commit another sex crime to a girl one day, let's all wait for that moment when someone will slip, but I think we are still a very long way from that moment.
I can't understand how they can live with themselves without even having the slightest remorse or guilt, it's heartbreaking;

Arubaanse,

Just from what you have gathered living in Aruba,
Do the Aruban People think these boys are guilty Of anything Beside Lying? And also
Do you think from what you know, Do the Aruban People think she is dead or alive??
Appreciate a answer
Thanks

Posted by: Curious | Sunday, March 12, 2006 at 05:18 PM

Like 90% of all arubans think they are guilty and most of us thinks she is no longer alive. But I don't think Joran did it. It must be someone else...I don't want to put the blame on others but the thing is we have lot's of ilegal immigrants staying near the beaches so nobody can see them except when it's dark and I know this cuz my brother and I used to go late at night just to sit near the beach and have fun and most of that time we can see ilegal immigrants coming out of their hiding places. Very creepy. We also see alots of couples making out. They are mostly tourist.


Arubaanse:

What sort of hiding places?

It seems that a small publishing company is getting ready to publish a documentary novel about Natalee's disappearance in Aruba. I just read it on their web site www.lastingbooks.com. This is the second book announced about the subject. The first book by Natalee's father Dave Holloway is due on April 11. I guess there will be plenty of books coming out shortly, including perhaps from the main suspects and from TV talk show hosts.

The rocks near Lighthouse and the bushes near Marriot hotel. just to name a few

Arubaanse,
Is knowledge of the illegals well known to the locals and police? Has ALE found any of them and questioned them?

Arubaanse,
Is knowledge of the illegals well known to the locals and police? Has ALE found any of them and questioned them?

Posted by: Skye | Monday, March 13, 2006 at 08:15 AM

The locals and the police knows about this problem. We have been dealing with this problem for years. We keep sending them back to their country but they keep coming back. But don't get me wrong I am not saying they killed Natalee. But ilegal immigrants are known to cause alot of problems here in Aruba. But it would be unfair to say that all of them are the same.

Was this woman Greta's big witness the one that approached her at the airport? Probably - what a big waste!

And those wkend girls still think the Skeeter tapes have merit - give me a break people - are the only ones that know what is up with this case, studying it on line?

Another point that shows ALE is inept. It could lend to the defense that they actually aren't selective about which cases they choose to bungle, all of them!

We have a poster up at our school hanging above the locker area, it says: "If you always tell the truth, you don't have to remember what you said."

I'm looking for the story on this Chicago girl...anyone know where to find it?

I'm looking for the story on this Chicago girl...anyone know where to find it?

Posted by: ChinbeardXIV | Monday, March 13, 2006 at 08:48 AM

It was just on "FOX BIG STORY" last night (not in the papers) so if there is a transcript from FOXNEWS -- it is the only place to probably find it.

We don't even know for sure if NATALEE was in the fisherman's huts area.

Scuba did mention some girl where there was an attempted assault. I am sure those kinds of things happen even in Aruba.

If the ALE did not get back to her, why didn't she try to get back to them?

The ALE is not going to go on Fox News and
disclose what they did in this case or any other case.

Why is this lady on Fox. It is March of 2006.Ten months late.

This is what I imagined may have happened from the beginning. IF what JVS is now saying is true, it is def. possible that someone else was there to scoop her up if people were watching from the bushes. It sounds weird but I imagine lurkers are common as I know they are on other islands. Who knows where she may have been taken..maybe even Venezuela like some people thought before. oh well, when in doubt, speculate.

I have said this all along as this was the reason they were asking the jogger to come forward not as a witness but as a suspect. How anyone could know about this and not think this may of had anything to do with Natalee's disappearance is beyond me. If I'm not mistaken and I don't think I am this same thing happened the Thursday before Natalee disappeared as well unless it is the same and the dates are just mixed up. Unreal almost a year later and now they are looking into this..

It seems that a small publishing company is getting ready to publish a documentary novel about Natalee's disappearance in Aruba. I just read it on their web site www.lastingbooks.com. This is the second book announced about the subject. The first book by Natalee's father Dave Holloway is due on April 11. I guess there will be plenty of books coming out shortly, including perhaps from the main suspects and from TV talk show hosts.

Posted by: victor | Monday, March 13, 2006 at 08:08 AM

I hope the proceeds of an monies received by any of these books will be going into a fund and not to make the parents rich.

I hope the proceeds of an monies received by any of these books will be going into a fund and not to make the parents rich.

Posted by: 26ANDCOUNTING | Monday, March 13, 2006 at 11:02 AM
Dave announced that the HIS proceedings from the book will go to a non-profit foundation.

Dave announced that the HIS proceedings from the book will go to a non-profit foundation.

Posted by: wreck | Monday, March 13, 2006 at 11:07 AM


Good. IMO, it is in very bad taste to be even be writing a book before the 1yr mark of her missing and still no evidence or charges being brought. Sounds very premature.. Like for the money which I believe he WILL collect some sort of compensation for.

I have my doubts that Joran and Natalee were at the Marriott Beach.

Joran said that there were a lot of people around and that he walked up and down the beach with Natalee.
Yet, no eye witness has confirmed his account.
Even in the dark, I think that someone would have noticed a 6'5" guy.

I have my doubts that Joran and Natalee were at the Marriott Beach.

Joran said that there were a lot of people around and that he walked up and down the beach with Natalee.
Yet, no eye witness has confirmed his account.
Even in the dark, I think that someone would have noticed a 6'5" guy.

Posted by: Justice for Natalee | Monday, March 13, 2006 at 11:10 AM

I agree with you. That is the same thing I said before. I know that in that hours you will find couples making out.


I think that ALE would have been thrilled to pin it all on the flasher, solve the case, and get the island back to normal--if ALE could have done so.

There must be some good reason they didn't.


There are lots of lurkers, both at daytime and at night. If she were left passed out or near to being passed out on the beach, anything could have happened to her. The beach areas that are more remote are lined with thickets of trees and usually there are numerous cars parked along in these thickets in positions to monitor the beach areas. In some cases, it appears that homeless types use the cover of these trees as roofing as you will see mattresses, cardboard, and the like under some of the trees.


Scuba did mention some girl where there was an attempted assault. I am sure those kinds of things happen even in Aruba.

If the ALE did not get back to her, why didn't she try to get back to them?

The ALE is not going to go on Fox News and
disclose what they did in this case or any other case.

Why is this lady on Fox. It is March of 2006.Ten months late.


Posted by: Kat_Gram | Monday, March 13, 2006 at 10:00 AM

ALE was too busy investigating all the other crime on the Happy Island, that they dont want you to know about.

like trying to find that american guy who was found without his head. Maybe the new search dogs from the Fatherland can find his head or him if the cant find Nat.

like trying to find that american guy who was found without his head. Maybe the new search dogs from the Fatherland can find his head or him if the cant find Nat.

Posted by: harold | Monday, March 13, 2006 at 12:22 PM


???????? What the f***??????

oh, yeah, pretend that you dont know about the american that was stabbed to death, or the headless corpse that was found in the intial searches for Nat.

oh, yeah, pretend that you dont know about the american that was stabbed to death, or the headless corpse that was found in the intial searches for Nat.

Posted by: harold | Monday, March 13, 2006 at 12:26 PM


Oh sweetheart, that wasn't an american. He was an aruban guy who was almost beheaded by his own wife. An dominican woman. That happend in june.

yes, and about that time, an american that lived on the island was found dead from stab wounds. was the verdict suicide?

yes, and about that time, an american that lived on the island was found dead from stab wounds. was the verdict suicide?

Posted by: harold | Monday, March 13, 2006 at 12:30 PM


Oh, the guy they found in a container??

Is that the one you are talking about??

all i know is what i read on the blogs. thats why i say that ALE did not have time to chase after the flasher of the beach becuase at the time Nat disappeared, the bodies, both the beheaded guy, and the dead guy in the container, the bodies were starting to stack up on the happy island that has no crime. do you know if they ever found out what killed the guy in the container, who i remember as an american.

We never said it was suicide!

all i know is what i read on the blogs. thats why i say that ALE did not have time to chase after the flasher of the beach becuase at the time Nat disappeared, the bodies, both the beheaded guy, and the dead guy in the container, the bodies were starting to stack up on the happy island that has no crime. do you know if they ever found out what killed the guy in the container, who i remember as an american.

Posted by: harold | Monday, March 13, 2006 at 12:39 PM

They haven't found the people who killed him.

Its funny that people loved to keep an open mind on killers and rapist. Hey maybe you need to take a stand once in your life and realized that there are bad people out there.. The same posters that think Joran is a poster child most likely are the same ones that think D. Littlejohn was innocent too.. I know the blood was planted?

"I don't think he did it. For one his arrest record dosen't lead one to think he is a rapist. I also think that if the DNA came back linking him he would have been arrested this week for it. Something smells and it is coming from the Falls.

Posted by: Kelly3 | Friday, March 10, 2006 at 06:37 PM

and since he was covered with stab wounds, i guess we can rule out natural causes too. right.
but i have another question about the dogs, are they coming back in first class air with dompig or are they going to take a freighter and arrive in six weeks, do you know?

Arubaanse:

What do the people there that you talk to know think of the Kalpoes ?

I really feel sory for the Kalpoe mother, Nadira and the rest of them. Not Deepak and Satish, because by their lies, they aided and abetted the hinderance of an investigation.

Where I live, they would have been charges and perhaps done some jail time.

But Nadira and I thnk there is a little sister
did nothing and they are probably suffering from the attention.Deepak said how much the legal fees were. Plus the fact that Nadira lost her job.

and since he was covered with stab wounds, i guess we can rule out natural causes too. right.
but i have another question about the dogs, are they coming back in first class air with dompig or are they going to take a freighter and arrive in six weeks, do you know?

Posted by: harold | Monday, March 13, 2006 at

I have no idea...and I have not seen anything in the newspaper today. And most people only talk today about the planecrash that killed 7 arubans and 1 american 10 years ago. Today march 13th is exact 10 years ago. SoI have to wait for tomorrow newspaper and see more updates about the dogs.

ok, thanks for the answers. sorry to hear about the plane crash anniversary.

The man found in a container was Robert Wayne Benson. It really wasn't a container, it was a workshop that had been converted from a large shipping container. He was not covered with stab wounds. He died of natural causes. Some of his close friends even posted about his death here at RVW, because they were upset about the speculation.

ok, thanks for the answers. sorry to hear about the plane crash anniversary.

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