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dan,
Bill O'Reilly said he was a judge last night in his interview with the mom. Someone pointed it out right away on the inside thread.
Good comments. At least can't they show that they are following the story.

First of all, I would like to acquiesce those who, coming upon this commentary will ask themselves upon reading the next paragraphs: “...Well, and what has this to do with Natalee Holloway?!?!”


I would urge them to keep reading, and see how all my observations are but removed by degrees from the pertinence to this on-going Saga of the “ Natalee Holloway fiasco,” Bill O’Reilly, Geraldo, Greta, and Fox, which relation to the following, and its dark implications to our lives, I will explain at length further on. Not to mention that some extended reading might do a bit of good to many readers; being that we have grown quite accustomed to read nothing more engrossing than your average Fast-food menu!!!

President Bush and his Administration are presently under siege; and with the escalating defiance of Iran in the face of the World Community to continue to pursue nuclear weapons, and promote its radical Islamist agenda; the looming chaos in the Palestinian Territories due to the “popular” election of the Hamas terrorists to form a significant part of the Palestinian Authority government, and their obstinate refusal to acknowledge Israel’s right to exist, or recant from their murderous ways; and the deteriorating situation in Iraq prompted by the provocation of the insurgents, who in the face of their failure to derail the Democratic Process so far, have now resorted to try to inflame a civil war as their last resort to achieve their heinous ends; the threats to America increase exponentially daily!


Vindictive, resentful, embittered Democrats in Washington, for the most part oblivious of the possible nefarious consequences of their actions on the world stage, and to our future, due to their “partisan” hatred of the President and his conservative policies; slowly but relentlessly undermine every step taken by the Administration regardless of it’s merits. These “Democrats,” succumbing to the pressure of the “Special Interest Groups” which support their campaigns financially, and have kept many of them in power in their “niches” for years, persist to try and keep ramming down the collective throats of the rest of America their “Secular Progressive,” “Godless,” “Anti-war defeatist,” “Alternate Lifestyles promoting,” “Race-baiting Affirmative Action empowering,” “Welfare pimping,” “Multi-Culturally groveling,” “Politically Correct,” “Liberal” agendas, though, as proven in the elections of the last dozen years, most of Middle America openly rejects it, and refuses to keep swallowing it any longer, wether by “Legislative Imposure,” or “Activist Judicial Fiat”!!!

Add to these the “Isolationists and Protectionists” of every stripe; the vociferous loonies of the far “Left;” the “Open Borders” advocates which would like, for sometimes opposing and disparate motives and reasons, to see the whole of Mexico’s population overrun us, at the expense of all the other immigrants from all over the world, who as a result of the long overdue, inevitable, looming toughening and enforcing of Immigration Laws across the board, to stem the tide of the Mexican illegal immigration “infestation,” will be denied emigration to the US, and will be ostracized on account of having to be treated “equally” by the “System” as the invading, relentless, Mexican hordes; and all those out there on the fringes of every political ideology and extremism, and what one has, which the Administration and we face as a Nation, is indeed a bleak, and daunting challenge!


Tag-on to this the fact that America’s so called “Main Stream Media,” is often naught but a mouthpiece of the aforementioned anti-Bush,“Secular Progressive,” “ Liberal” agenda, and that it eagerly indulges in bashing America and focusing on everything that shows our Country, our Government, and its policies in a bad light, gleefully shouting it out to the world, hypocritically siting as a pretext “journalistic values” they do not follow for the most part; while at the same time minimizing or ignoring to cover anything positive about America, accomplished by the Administration, or by our Military.


If in addition, we take into consideration the existing animosity between the White House and the “Left-leaning” Press; the ineptitude of present White House spokesman Scott Mc Clellan to effectively deal with the likes of NBC’s Chief White House correspondent David Gregory and his fellow predatory, vicious, “school of White House Correspondent Piranhas;” and the overall failure on the part of the Administration of letting the hostile “Media” define it in the eyes of America and the world, instead of pro-actively engaging them in a more pre-emptive, aggressive manner; and one comes face to face with the need for alternate sources for “news” that Middle America can turn to and rely on to be well informed, not “tinged” by the permeating “ Liberal biases” in the industry! Enter Fox News.


To any objective observer it will be self evident, that had it not been for the presence of Fox News during the coverage of the last Presidential elections; their exposure, for instance, of the claims of the “Swift Boat Veterans,” which had been mostly ignored by the other news outlets; the venue they offered Conservatives to express their views, which otherwise would have remained silenced and ignored by the monolithic, Liberal, pro-Kerry rest of the Media; the election results would most probably have been different, and John Kerry elected President. And though that would have made many “activists” quite ecstatic, it would have in fact “negated” the voice of that rest of America, too busy for the most part rearing their families, and dealing with the everyday exigencies of survival, to be much involved in any kind of activism, who in fact rallied and came out to vote and be heard, as they did, with the resulting re-election of President Bush, and the attendant rejection for the “Secular Progressive” agenda, which otherwise would have once again been imposed upon them; and the consequent defeat and withdrawal from Iraq that a Kerry victory would have most likely entailed, making Iraq into another self-fulfilling, “Glorious” Viet-Nam, much to the delight of the “Deans,” “Kennedys,” and “Sheehans” of this world, with no regard for those fallen, who would have then indeed given their lives in vain in this noble struggle in Iraq and the War on Terror!

This is why for the life of me I can not fathom, why Fox News, independent of whatever “ratings” the more banal may use as the exclusive “rationale” for their behavior, has taken the disappearance of a teenager; Natalee Holloway, whose demise was greatly propitiated , in part by the alcohol, drugs, and sexually charged ambience to which the lack of “parental discretion” of her mother, Beth, exposed her to in allowing her to go unsupervised to this “Spring Break” styled bacchanalia of excesses in the first place, and Natalee’s own repeated blunders, and lack of judgement and common sense in the second place; which Fox has been one of the most notorious in blowing out of all proportion, making of this “family tragedy,” such as occur daily throughout the world, this whole “Media Circus” fiasco that has plagued our television screens nightly for endless months now, and “hogged” the attention of the whole Nation, lulling that very same “Conservative Base” which so relies on them, with this never-ending melodrama, at the expense of more vital issues and developments, ignored, or barely touched upon, in order to make air-time for the redundant, inflected “Southern Belle,” shrill wails of Natalee’s media-maven, limelight-loving, narcissistic mom, Beth Twitty, once again been interviewed, with nothing but evasions on her part ( uhhh.... I mean Greta...it’s not relevant, you know...), saying false allegations, misrepresentations, and defamations, affecting the innocent lives of an entire Island Nation, with nothing new to add to the case!!!

We have all seen, many of us in dismay, how in the face of the London terrorist bombings, and the terrorist bombings in Turkey; the on-going War in Iraq; floods in India last summer which killed thousands; the on-going tragedy caused by hurricanes which decimated our Gulf Coast, and almost obliterated one of our major and oldest cities, New Orleans, killing over one thousand, and affecting the lives of millions; the massive earthquake in Kashmir, which left a death toll of almost one hundred thousand people, and hundreds of thousands others homeless in the face of the coming brutal winter in the region; the alarming nuclear threat posed by Iran’s escalating defiance of the World Community; and the Muslim riots that have shaken the world over the portrayal of Mohammed in some absurdly innocuous caricatures lately and revealed how truly intolerant, and repressive Islam is; this Natalee Holloway fracas, “Dead Horse” of a story, has duly been “resurrected,” and has in some instances even “overshadowed” the coverage of the aforementioned calamities and natural disasters on Fox, along with many more pressing matters and issues, which have been ignored, or not properly addressed, in order to keep airing the Natalee Holloway garbage! It makes any sensible person shake their heads in unbelief !!!

All the while, Democrats, Leftists, Anti-war protesters, Hollywood gay cowboys, and other activists, for the most part, don’t give a rat’s ass about Natalee’s disappearance; and yet, here is Fox, the only viable venue for most Conservatives, wasting its precious air-time in “stupefying” Middle America with their “Reality TV Show” of Beth’s antics in Aruba, chasing the “suspects,” J2K , Paulus, and their family, with cameras, or interviewing everyone that even remotely has had anything to do with the case ad nauseam, once again shoving Beth’s Banshee wails down our collective throats every night, over and over, on our televison screens, like some demoniac Steven Spielberg “poltergeist” that simply refuses to be exorcised, or as in Jaws II: “Just when you thought it was safe to get back into the water...;” just when one thought it was safe to turn Fox News on again...! Appalling !!!


And then to hear the likes of Bill O’Reilly lecturing the Administration about how they let the “Liberal-leaning Media” define them, while as in yesterday’s program, and today with Geraldo, he once again puts Beth Twitty on the air for more of the “same-old,” and keeps recycling this sordid Natalee Holloway fracas for no greater altruistic motives than ratings, diverting the attention of his mostly Conservative audience from the real issues besieging the White House, eroding Conservative gains, which may very well affect them adversely in the 2006 elections?!?! What a “Patriotic”gall on Mr. O’Reilly’s part!!!


I wonder, if during the last six months Fox would have exposed all underhanded, relentless, undermining of the President and the Administration by his opponents, and denounced them, dedicating half as much enthusiasm in doing so on its part, as that with which they have pursued and promoted all things “Natalee,” perhaps the President would fare far better today in the “polls,” and many of the reverses, and setbacks we have suffered as a Nation, could have been avoided, or curtailed?!?!


As it stands, while the majority of America once again will sit opiated, watching on Fox Joran being interviewed, Beth wail, and Greta shout “murderer” to the Kalpoes for refusing to open their door to her predatory, intrusive interviewing, even returning as an “International Fugitive” to the US, being sought after to be arrested by the Aruban authorities; just like Odysseus’ sailors in the Lotus Isles, “Middle America” will just keep watching, drooling... while the rest of the world implodes around them, the yoke of “Secular Progressive” totalitarianism” is once again imposed upon us, we loose the majority in the House and Senate, Hilary and “First Lady” Bill get elected, and we inevitably yet again fall victim to another 9/11 strike, probably a far worse one this time around, from the ever emboldened Islamist Facists, whose only purpose in life is to kill Americans and wipe Israel off the face of the earth, but whose “rights” we, and the ACLU, will be all too busy “zealously” defending!!!


God help us all! Only time will tell the unforseen consequences of America’s sick obsession with Natalee Holloway!!!


Althor



God help us all! Only time will tell the unforseen consequences of America’s sick obsession with Natalee Holloway!!!

LOL Althor - Fox draws less than 5% or so of the people watching television. And if you watch Brit Hume, Cavuto and a number of others, I think we're going to survive NH.

I got it...I got it...Althor...you wrote very eloquently

but I got it from Dan's paragraph too...

Dan, what is up with this...why has it consumed the cable news and us for 9 + months? What is the draw? More to the point..why hasn't it been solved?

On another board it has been reported that a poster by the name of Glenda claims to have proof that Greta thinks Joran is innocent, in writing. Well I just watched O'Reilly and Geraldo again and I think that Greta is lying when she says that they won't tell the audience what they think until the airing of the tape is complete. Well, tonight Geraldo and O'Reilly told the audience all they need to know. I can't believe that these guys don't try to duke it out with this seiously sociopathic lying kid. They showed their hand prematurely, why watch the program when you can read the transcript?

What is so frightening is that it appears they are only armed with the fact sheet from the PR campaign.

Bizarre - you dont get it. If Joran is believeable, Greta will say so. That could cool her relationship with Beth. So Geraldo and Oreilly are playing the tough guys so they can still support the family. It's a ratings game. That way they can play both sides of the road.

Althor:

America has always been obsessed with trivial things, as the muslim hoardes descend(tongue in cheek) I am sure most Americans will be able to peel themselves away from their TV sets long enough to defend the country.

One of the reasons that Americans can spend so much time focusing on entertainment is overall the country is very secure and the economy is in good shape.

Indeed, America is obsessed with trivia and money. The ingredients of this neverending (?)Holloway hysteria. Natalee was seen in the hotel after se had been with Joran just like some student have said in the press before Marcia Twitty tied their lips and began spinning the PR machine..

TJ:

It seems that NH had a cell phone in the casino and then a cell phone was found in her room which makes me think that she did make it back to her room. I just wonder why the Twittys are obsessed with making sure that is not discovered.

IMO cases like this replace realty shows and sports for some people. Especially the format of shows like Nancy Grace reminds me of a local sports show.

Althor,

If you are watching programs such as O'Reilly, Greta and Hannity & Combs, you are not interested in news but instead in entertainment. I for one don't watch those show but do view a lot of the news programs at Fox.

I have written about this in the past so I won't cover the same ground, but the simple truth is that the answer lies in Alabama.

One other thought: Mexico is going to vote in a leftist President in May, and then we will watch the border crossings increase significantly. We here in Arizona just saw illegals being detained by a rancher. The illegals filed a civil complaint which the ranchers didn't answer and the judge awarded the Mexicans the ranch.

QUOTE: "God help us all! Only time will tell the unforseen consequences of America’s sick obsession with Natalee Holloway!!!"

Althor

LOL Althor - Fox draws less than 5% or so of the people watching television. And if you watch Brit Hume, Cavuto and a number of others, I think we're going to survive NH.

Posted by: Dan | Thursday, March 02, 2006 at 02:09 AM

Thanks Dan, you do make an excellent point!

It would have been far worse to also hear Britt Hume discussing with Charles Krauthammer, Fred Barnes, Marla Liasson, Mort Kondracke, and other guests of his distinguished panel the implications to the current state of "Bethofacism" in the South ("Sieg Heil Beth, sister of Das Fuhrer!")of Beth Twitty having broken a nail while pulling on the handle of the mini-bar inside her Limousine on her way to Fox's studio, or Cavuto analyzing wether the "Beth AM South Mutual Funds" (move over Martha Stewart!)are expected to go up in the Stock Market due to the reported "phenomenal gains," and the Firms "low overhead" (they have been very efficient in raking in donations)!!!

Your observations are indeed heartening! Thanks!

Althor :)

dan and everyone, here is a link to the Gretawire for today. Dan, I hear what you are saying and maybe i don't get it but after reading her blog and all the e mails...she definitely thinks he is guilty so now they all do...

and yet, here is Fox, the only viable venue for most Conservatives, wasting its precious air-time in “stupefying” Middle America with their “Reality TV Show” of Beth’s antics

Alt, Bryce says it all when he says this is the new wave of Reality TV. Thats all it is. The new undefined method of linking people up with what is entertainment. Nothing different than the game of placing people in the arena with a lion in days of old.
Entertainment with lots of blood and gore is a natural human enticement. Its just that Beth is the one placing Joran in the lion's mouth for our entertainment.
Why don't we stop her?
We would outlaw putting humans in an arena in the US in the year 2006? Why don't we outlaw Beth's arena?
Because, it is WE who are weak and can not figure out that this whole area of entertainment is detrimental to our country in ways that Alt has mentioned above.

QUOTE: "One other thought: Mexico is going to vote in a leftist President in May, and then we will watch the border crossings increase significantly. We here in Arizona just saw illegals being detained by a rancher. The illegals filed a civil complaint which the ranchers didn't answer and the judge awarded the Mexicans the ranch."

Posted by: tk | Thursday, March 02, 2006 at 10:57 AM


You know, if the Mexican Government would spend half the amount of resources they spend on Consulates here in the US advising their "illegal" compatriots on how to circumvent US Laws and not to get caught by Immigration, providing them with Mexican IDs to be able to better sneak themselves more readily into our society; pasing comics and pamphlets out, back in Mexico, instructing prospective illegals on how to cross over the border, and where the water stations are in the desert; advertising on Univision how it is the Mexican dream to come to the US, a land of "Freedom" and "opportunity," in their own word, and what a great contribution they are to our "trim lawns"; defending illegals in our Courts, and suing Ranchers who will not let illegals trespass across their property along the border, as you mentioned; and financially supporting every pro-immigration, "La Raza" group that wants open borders and unchecked Mexican immigration into this Country, perhaps they would have enough money left over to better take care of their own people!!!

Of course, the obvious reason they do that, is that Mexico's greatest Gross National Product, far surpassing their sizeable oil revenues, is the exporting of Mexicans! (as I pointed out above, they now even come with instructions. Next the Mexican government will be shipping them in boxes!)

So much for the state of the modern slave trade! And of course, our businesses here need the "slaves" to flip their burgers, cut their lawns, pick their crops, and clean their toilets, at "below poverty level" wages, which naturally to the Mexicans is probably more than what Vicente Fox is paid as "Presidente de la Republica" (tongue in cheek) when you convert the worthless Mexican toilet paper Pesos, in which they get paid, into American dollars!

Talk about "La Cucaracha"! They are verily running us over like roaches!!! And the worse part of it is that they are bringing along with them all that has made of Mexico, culturally (an oxymoron when applied to Mexico with their monumental illiteracy, and lack of basic education,which makes it even more ironic that they would come here to learn "English," when the majority of the population doesn't even know how read, write, or even talk proper "Spanish"!!!), politically, and economically a failure as a country, a society, and as an "Independent Nation"!!!

And what is most sad, is that because in our "Politically Correct" society, since we must treat every "immigrant" the same "under the Law," and treat them "equally," these Mexican swarms are screwing it up for every other person in other countries that wishes to emigrate to the US, since to stem the Mexican hordes, Immigration Laws, prerequisites, and enforcement must need get more stringent, and more severely enforced!

Perhaps if we provided Mexican illegals crossing the Rio Grande with boats, and sent in the Coast Guard, we could apply to them the "wet foot-dry foot policy" Immigration authorities used to promptly send those poor, hapless, Cubans back who had the misfortunem to land on the out of service old "Seven mile Bridge" in Florida, back to Castro's hell-hole in Cuba! (I have always wondered why Mexicans, who so vehemently support Castro and his Revolution for the most part, do not emigrate 'en masse' to Castro's "Communist Paradise," instead of coming here to the "Imperialist's lair" in the first place!)

At any rate, if you drive in the vicinity of San Diego, watch out for those new diamond shaped, yellow signs the D.O.T. has had the kindness to put up along the expressways for the protection of our beleaguered neighbors "South of the Border," akin to the "Deer Crossing," and "Watch out for Cattle" ones we are so familiar with. They show the silhouttes of a man with a woman holding the hand of a child, all of them running. Of course it stands for: "Watch out for Wet-backs Crossing"! LOL! (and no, it is not a joke, the signs are REAL!)

What will the D.O.T. think of next?!?!


Althor :)

dan and everyone, here is a link to the Gretawire for today. Dan, I hear what you are saying and maybe i don't get it but after reading her blog and all the e mails...she definitely thinks he is guilty so now they all do...

Posted by: Bizarre | Thursday, March 02, 2006 at 11:59 AM

I interpret the blog completely the opposite. She's surprised by the people's reactions around her (sound engineer, technican obviously state he's guilty as hell) and she says you have to few this with detached emotions and steely resolve (something like that) and look at only the facts. That alone suggests she is doing just that, looking at the facts and removing any emotions, which if you do that, look at the facts, not the blotchy face or how he twitches or whatever, just the facts - he can't be guilty.

Somehow we went from Geraldo and OSpinley being a-holes.....to Beth Twitty being a Nazi

First...O'Reilly's pro-terrorist spin on the Ports deal is sickening. Its funny how people like Rush and OReilly are acting like spineless Globalist Socialist Terrorist suck ups

Although Geraldo has an ego the size of Brazil...he does at times makes sense....and goes against the MSM grain (the only one early on who had the balls to say OJ Simpson was guilty of murder...instead of sucking up to the black "racism racism racism" crap. Wow...he was wrong on Al Capone's vault....whats worse is that people actually care what the hell was in Al Capone's vault

As for Aruba....and Natalee Holloway...the Arube govt is directly involved in her disappearance. Of course, Joran isnt going to know what happened to Natalee after he killed her.....his Dad and the ALE arent going to tell him

No one finds it odd that Paulus Van Der Sloot was so quick to clear himself...but not his son?

Question??

Why would Joran have to email Deepak to say he got home, when Satish Had Deepaks car to pick him up
So Joran Says and the brothers deny??

can anyone explain that

Why would Joran have to email Deepak to say he got home

It's my understanding he called. As for why? Who knows, maybe Satish wasn't going right home and asked him to.

One of the few times I had respect for Geraldo was when he befriended and stuck up for Steve Groene, when others thought he might have played a part in the murder and disappearance of his kids.

Why would Joran have to email Deepak to say he got home

It's my understanding he called. As for why? Who knows, maybe Satish wasn't going right home and asked him to.

Posted by: Dan | Thursday, March 02, 2006 at 02:39 PM

Maybe he called Deepak and thanked him for sending his brother to pick him up.

But he said IN ABC interview and Chris confirmed

He went home Email Deepak, Check soccor Score and visited a porn site..

I just dont get that

Dear Bryce,
This link contains an excellent cover-up theory by the Twitties which explains their incessant actions to grab Natalee before ALE does:
http://www.freedomofblog.com/view_topic.php?id=340&forum_id=29

TJ

That makes sense. I can see why Beths daughter would want to get away from her. I have a feeling Beth Twitty is more than a little smothering as a mother.

O'Reilly showed his ignorance of the case by saying, "but they have the Dr Phil tape from the other guy admitting that all 3 had sex with her"
Geraldo corrected him and essentially admitted that tyape was skeeterized and said something like "I don't think we should rely on that". Of course then he said something idiotic about a Fox news producer having a tape from last summer of Joran admitting having sex with Nat. Wonder why we haven't seen THAT tape???

those bastards !!!

if your looking for nh she is in mexico with her black boyfriend, so instead of sooo much BS why dont you go and find her ??
Who can blame her to run for freedom and happiness??
What did she do wrong ??
All you have taken the story in the direccion it is ....
from teacher; James

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