Unraveling The Mystery Of Natalee Holloway

The disappearance of Natalee Holloway may not ever be solved. All we have to look to are assorted bits of information gathered from various, sometimes conflicting sources. The particular scenario I'm going to lay out here may not be any better than some others. But I am going to construct a narrative from information and suppositions which make sense to me based upon what I know and think.

I believe Natalee Holloway was pushing limits that night, as were many of the MB kids as they went to C and C that night to "really blow it out." It was the last night of a trip which involved heavy drinking, drug use by some, and also casual sex. Mountain Brook is a privileged community. Whether it is the best and the brightest is an arguable point. However, it certainly is the richest when it comes to Alabama. And a certain sense of entitlement, along with believing there's no need to tarnish the reputation of Natalee Holloway has led to MB being less than candid about certain aspects of the trip.

Many will say, Why bother? What does it have to do with Natalee's disappearance? But the truth does matter. It has gotten to the point where it is indecent for the MB community to allow a community member to make allegations of rape, drugging and kidnapping while protecting their own children by withholding the truth of the trip.

Frankly, I suspect the parents of MB are as much in denial as anyone else. Between not wanting to confront what some of their own children are capable of, and out of concern for their futures and reputations, I suspect MB is precisely the kind of upscale community quite content to point all kinds of fingers at others without feeling the slightest need to reveal its own truths.

Those details provide vital context to what may or may not have happened that night as a result of Natalee's condition and state of mind. Suggesting those elements of the story are not relevant while spinning myths of cars mistaken for taxis, or a girl being forcibly pushed into a car is repugnant in its ignorance and the allegations have become pathetic in their unchallenged repetition.

Were the suspects in this case Americans none of this would have gone on. It is a sad display of both America's and MB's arrogance that they feel they can say whatever they want to say about an island and three boys without one ounce of accountability for being truthful for their side of the tale.

Now, to the point. It seems fairly obvious that Natalee was drinking and partying heavily most of the week and all during the day before the last night on the trip. I don't think she was anything but a decent, average young American girl. But it's also likely that she had picked out Joran as much as he may have later picked out her. I believe she left and stayed willingly with Joran and the Kalpoes and most likely was assuming she would hook up with Joran sexually, if she was thinking much at all at that point.

There are individuals in MB who know that there were occasions when Natalee went a bit overboard when it came to partying and also boys. And by boys I mean more in the sense of flirting or being provocative with them, not necessarily engaging in some certain kind of sexual activity. My point is not that Natalee was loose, or a fallen angel, simply that she appears to have had the capacity to over indulge in partying and find herself in the company of someone to whom she is attracted. How she may or may not have ultimately acted intimately on such occasions isn't relevant to this particular scenario and I don't pretend to have specific knowledge of that on this or any other occasion.

The psychology of Natalee Holloway is likely a somewhat troubled one. She appears to have worked incredibly hard to have measured up. And it's at least possible that some of those same forces caused her to go a bit too near the edge when she found herself unrestrained by the dominating influence of her Mother.

I personally believe that for all her good intentions to get answers in the disappearance of her lovely daughter, the Mother of Natalee Holloway likely has her own set of truths in this matter she'd just as soon not acknowledge, or have revealed. From a psychological perspective, it's at least possible to consider that her extraordinary efforts and the ability to cast unproven accusations time and time again is the way she has consciously or unconsciously chosen to deal with this tragedy without being forced to examine her relationship with her daughter and how those dynamics may have influenced events. And while it is difficult to judge a Mother who has suffered such a tragic loss, that still doesn't make her behavior right, or even helpful at this point. The family seems totally unwilling to entertain any contemplation of its own dynamics which may have ultimately led to Natalee being put at risk.

That matters because they are not only accusing Joran and the Kalpoes of rape and murder, but of having manipulated Natalee's state of mind, possibly through drugs. We can't, but if we could access the whole truth and perhaps come to understand the notion that given the time and place Natalee may have been capable of experimenting beyond what she may have done normally by taking some drug, then it opens the door to an accidental overdose. And it is for that reason alone I bring these psychological elements up, not to cast aspersions on Natalee or her family.

I suspect the three boys likely didn't see Natalee as anything more than some American blond out looking for fun and adventure and its likely they were more than willing to supply it. Lost in this story has been the sad way vacation spots and even islands like Aruba can be so shallow in their regard for the deeper aspects of human life when it comes to tourists. But that is not specific to Aruba, or even the hosts.

From Florida, to Mexico, to any number of other locations, America's privilege and wealth has led to a class of mostly young people who cavalierly dance into this or that vacation hot spot with no more regard for anything than their own pleasure. It shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone that such attitudes and practices can sometimes lead to a disastrous end. But there are two sides playing that game and blaming one without holding the other accountable is superficial at best, likely born more from prejudice than real thought.

Given certain statements about Joran's own condition the next day, it would seem he may have been lying about not being drunk, or having taken some kind of drug. I think it possible that they all decided to secure and take something, possibly ecstasy. I am not convinced that it was slipped to her without her knowing. I think it's quite possible that it was the last one step too far in a week of carefree indulgence she likely wasn't mature or stable enough to survive.

In this scenario, and it is indeed, only one, instead of what perhaps the boys thought they'd get, a willing, carefree blond, Natalee had some type of reaction to the drug. There were fluids in the back seat of the car and I think it at least possible that Natalee began to be sick, causing Deepak to drop her and Joran back at the beach. For this next segment, I am relying somewhat on Joran's disclosures during a recent interview.

He tells us they were walking back and forth up and down the beach. True, one does that with a romantic sort of stroll, but it is also what one does when trying to straighten or sober another up. Likely they were seen during this period and if Natalee was getting into trouble from a drug overdose and Joran was trying to get her through it, the suggestion of a romantic walk could be Joran's way of covering it up. One guess, and it can only be a guess is that it didn't work and Natalee began to lose consciousness.

From the picture at right taken from the casino video we see Natalee did have a cell phone. It's been reported that a call from Natalee's cell phone may have come in to the cell phone of William Morris, a friend. I do wonder if he had called her earlier in the night, perhaps being concerned for her as she had left with the three boys.

One way or another, I speculate that Joran placed that call as the number was stored, or was the last incoming call to her cell phone, as she was sinking deeper into unconsciousness and he wanted to hand her off to friends. I'm not convinced that there was any plan for harm to come to Natalee Holloway from activities that night. Possibly the phone was shut off and Joran never got through.

Beginning to panic and in his own drunken or drugged state of mind, he called one of the Kalpoes. Joran stated that they said it was Deepak that picked him up but that was hidden by agreement to keep Satish out of it. If the boys did nothing wrong, or there were no secrets to be kept, there would seem to be no need to keep Satish out of anything.

Joran has also at least twice made a point of stating he picked Natalee up in his arms. I think it's possible that she was unconscious at the time and, as there were other people around on the beach, he needs an explanation as to why he would be seen with her in his arms. Also, the sneakers come into play. Why would someone not take sneakers they'd removed along with them when leaving a beach? Because they had something in their arms, perhaps.

A direct quote from Joran from the interview states "we" got in the car. I think it's possible that at this point "we" represents Joran, an unconscious Natalee and perhaps Satish, and or even Deepak. They very well may have then driven to the area of the raquet ball club to decide what they should do. If this scenario is close to correct, somewhere along the line it was discovered that Natalee had passed away from an accidental overdose of alcohol and ecstasy after an almost week long party her body simply didn't endure.

Given Joran's motivations to preserve his future, his somewhat selfish, immature and even perhaps ego-maniacal make up - and the Kalpoes fears of being sent back to Suriname were they involved in a tragic controversy, I think it is possible that they decided to dispose of the body rather than simply drive to the police or the hospital and turn her over. Enter Steve Croes.

Perhaps at this point arrangements were made for Steve Croes to help them out by securing a boat and depositing Natalee's body out in the ocean beyond some point of no return. If this scenario is correct, it was the boy's lack of ultimate caring for just another tourist, coupled with their belief that they were as much, in a sense, victims of events as anyone else which would support their ability to seemingly without conscious continue to lie about events of that night right up until today.

It seemed rather clear from the start that the family of Natalee Holloway, specifically her Mother, wanted nothing less than a hanging for the rape and murder of Natalee.  That persistent, intensely angry approach early on would most likely have driven the boys to cover up even more from the start, even if it was an accidental death.

Had this happened in America, LE wouldn't have allowed the almost lynch mob-like mentality with which the boys were confronted from the start to have driven the investigation. As things stand, were I them in this admittedly speculative position, I'd have no reason to believe coming clean now would do any good at all. After all, it was an accident. I'm not to blame.

But then, as America has too often learned from her politics, sometimes it is the cover up and not the crime that does the greater harm.

If any of the above speculations and assumptions are even close to correct, than a less than candid, honest approach from, not just the boys, but from MB and Natalee's family as well could have all contributed to the confounding puzzle we seem to face today.

Unfortunately, the truth likely can never will out in a complicated affair when any one involved faction remains unwilling to tell their particular part of it. Sadly, that seems to be the case for every element so involved here.

Comments

[skirtgirl]

dan - why then do you think joran included the details about hooking up with NH on the beach? in the event that your very reasonable scenario took place - why would he make-up a sexual encounter?

[Dan]

why would he make-up a sexual encounter?

I think that may be true, but possibly happened right aftere getting to the beach. She may have seemed okay for a bit out in the fresh air - then started to loss it, again. Honestly, obviously Im only speculating - trying to make sense of as many things as I can.

I see guilt in the boys - but not the extreme guilt some allege.

[xxx]

Is there any evidence Natalee willingly took ecstacy?

I suppose this theory rests on the idea that there are several of Natalee's classmates who know she did take ecstacy but who are refusing to tell the truth about it...I find that pretty hard to believe.

And I find it virtually impossible to believe that an 18 year old girl would for the first time try a drug and not tell at least one of her girlfriends about it. You don't do drugs for the first time alone in the presence of strangers. You do drugs for the first time with your good friends who are going to keep an eye on you in case something goes wrong.

I don't understand the need to criticize an entire community for being affluent and tight knit to the point of accusing virtually the entire town of keeping relevant information from the investigation.

[fokje]

if this scenario was the case, we would already knew; they would have broken in the interrogations. They are not hardened criminals, they couldn't keep up the lie. The only point is; everyone is scared to admit to have been the last with Natalee, or seen Natalee, while some sick rednecks are looking for revenge, not for Natalee. I can't blame them.

[Linda in L.A.]

Dan...this sounds the most fair...and the most likely scenario I have read on here. I have been reading for quite some time but stopped posting because of the "opinions" people tended to insist happened. None of us know obviously what happened other than Natalee is missing and left with the boys that nite. I believe she is dead and while I've stopped short of believing the rape scenario...I have always felt at least Joran was involved.

Glad for your scenario...and not a one sided "This is what definetly happened you idiot" blurb. Hopefully it will be read and just maybe MB and the Joran will stop pointing fingers and start trying to figure out how to get Natalee back so she and everyone can find some peace. Thanks again for your voice of reason.

[Jody]

Very good article Dan. I don't think Joran killed Natalee. I don't know what happened to her, but what I do know is Beth has told so many lies from day one. That is something that I just can't understand. Why does a mother of a missing girl feel she has to lie so much? She lied about where she was when she heard Natalee missed her flight. She has lied about the toothbrush, the Medjet plane, accusations about Joran's father...on and on. I have personally counted 23 lies she has told, and that was before I stopped listening to her months ago. Heaven only knows what else she has told that has been a complete lie.

I don't blame Joran for lying at first either. He was a scared kid who was being cursed and threatened by this group of entitled jerks.

I don't know what Beth has done to totally captivate Greta, Rita and Dan Abrams, but she has them under the spell of her lies, where they will never question her. They are all making complete fools of themselves in the process.

The saddest part in all of this is that Beth can only call Natalee "normal" and seems to care much more about the money that has come from her disappearance than she cares about her own daughter. We haven't heard much of anything in the way of what Natalee was like from Beth. People, that is sad. I have a feeling she ignored Natalee as much as she is ignoring Matt now.

[greenwing]

Dan, several people from Aruba have stated that if the above did happen, a call to 911 (emergency) would be the first thing a citizen would do. Unlike in the US, those people would not have been implicated in a crime. It seems that this is general knowledge there.

[fokje]

And I find it virtually impossible to believe that an 18 year old girl would for the first time try a drug and not tell at least one of her girlfriends about it. You don't do drugs for the first time alone in the presence of strangers. You do drugs for the first time with your good friends who are going to keep an eye on you in case something goes wrong.
Posted by: xxx | Saturday, February 25, 2006 at 04:40 PM
true. At least not something like xtc indeed.

[Mike]

Having seen Joran and his interviews i cannot believe he is a hardened criminal nor a psychopath.
No one can endure the interrogations they imposed on these guys.
Aruba is not the Netherlands. Jails are pretty bad there and a seventeen year old with no experience in interrogations wouldnt be able to hack it.

I think Natalee was fucked up due tot drugs and decided to sober up by a swim.
Overdose of xtc can cause heating of the body. If ya suddenly take a dive in colder water a
heart attack is easy to get.

[Skye]

I think if there is a drug over dose and cover up by accidental death that Joran is hiding it is because he put the drug in that last drink he bought for her at CnC's just prior to leaving.

If it was an accidental overdose, Joran is still wrong for not getting help for her knowing he gave her drugs. Which makes him responsible.

[COLUMBO]

they would have called 911 unless it would have implicated them in something.....maybe "911" was already there ;-)

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 10:01 pm
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[Jessica]

Bravo Dan! Most important part is leaving shoes at the beach. That totally defies comprehension. Even a jury would've had a tough time with that.

[xxx]

If she just OD'd and no one had sex with her, why wouldn't they have just left her body on the beach?

All Joran would have to say is he left her on the beach and she was fine when he left, any OD could easily have been presumed to have occured after he left her.

There would have been no DNA evidence and no way to say she didnt take the x willingly so there would have been NO PROBLEM.

That is why I still think the key to this is the sexual assault angle...there was DNA evidence and that is part of why whatever happened Natalee was disposed of.

I frankly wouldn't blame a teenager for leaving a dead girl he hardly knew on a beach if she just OD's and I am sure nobody in Aruba would either.

This reads like Dan trying really, really hard to come up with a scenario that admits the boys are still lying, admits they disposed of her body but manages to STILL make it Natalee's fault...they are innocent, but they still threw her away like a piece of garbage.

[fokje]

I don't know but that C&C from what I've seen from pictures doesn't seem a place to me (at least not for a sunday-night) where xtc is common used. I don't think there wasn't any drug use at all at that evening, however I don't know that place in real. It just isn't the place and time to use that kind of drugs.

[Justice4All]

Questions come to mind.

Why did Joran use the word hate?
How did she " hit her head" come into play?

Though you take on it seems plausible, I think there may be more to it. Too many time line mix ups.
Too many lies. Why not come clean if this is the truth, if there is a body still, certain things can be obtained through forensics.

I have beleive that was is fueling this is the schematics of this crime ,not only the crime.

[xxx]

There I disagree, X is a club drug and people who take X usually want to dance all night or have sex all night.

I just don't see a first time X user doing so without telling any friend.

[HughBriss]

xxx, you're so right! Yes, Dan is trying really really really hard at sounding suddenly reasonable and yet getting in his jabs at the VICTIM.

It's as cold as Dan's eyes to continue blaming the victim, but there's no graceful way out for him to just shut the %$&* up so he continues as though Natalee "deserved it".

Choo choo train's coming for him and all his sycophants. LOL toot! toot!

[Captain Joe]

I think that the drug involved was Roofy, and it was administered by Joran, a crime indeed, hence the desire to keep the death covered up.

[fokje]

There I disagree, X is a club drug and people who take X usually want to dance all night or have sex all night.
Posted by: xxx | Saturday, February 25, 2006 at 05:06 PM
yes, and that means not a sunday evening while C&C was closing at 1 or 2am. It doesn't make sence to me to consider use of xtc on such evening.

[Skye]

Does anyone wonder why Joran made a comment about what is not normal behavior for parents of a missing daughter and how he would know what is normal at his age?

[xxx]

Well, now that you mention it, who is going to take a hit of ecstacy at MIDNIGHT...no one...

[Skye]

yes, and that means not a sunday evening while C&C was closing at 1 or 2am. It doesn't make sence to me to consider use of xtc on such evening.

Posted by: fokje | Saturday, February 25, 2006 at 05:16 PM

It doesnt mean that CnC's provided the drug. Joran could have had it and he put it in the drink himself. He admits he bought the last drink.

[fried]

that was a well thought out post, but i don't think they could have carried her onto the boat without someone seeing them. if i remember correctly, the boats croes had access too were the pary boat launches, with the party boat closed they should not be moved untill morning, and were docked near the hotels security would have noticed something, if they were in a marina there would have been fishermen preping to go out at that time of the morning, they are a curious bunch and would have noticed. however,
if they got in the boat earlier, to go look for sharks, then she od'd at sea, they could wait untill later in the morning they would most likely not have been noticed. the cell calls and emails don't support that, however. i think it more likely she went swimming and drowned, currents can be tricky around a small island, if the tide, if any,was going out then, a rip tide could have caught her. the warm water can be very soothing at night, it is like a warm bath, i have come close to falling asleep while floating at night. but i can't see her doing that with her clothes on. unless joran just pushed her off from the beach.

[xxx]

The problem with Dan's scenario, other than that he blames Natalee for her own demise and absolves the suspects of any real wrongdoing...

Is that Dan knows nothing about ecstacy, who takes it, when you take it, how it makes you act. I can't see anyone agreeing to do X with 3 virtual strangers at midnight, so the idea that Natalee, Joran and K2 all agreed together to do some X is not plausible based on the reality of how the drug is used.

My opinion is Natalee was raped by Joran and Deepak and then died, and it was the rape they needed to cover up not the accidental death....

[wreck]

I just don't buy it. If this is truly the scenario (which IS "plausible") -- it really defies logic and common sense to think that Joran, Deepak and satish would all continue with their current story. They were held for murder/rape for months and never offered up that particular scenario. The punishment for covering up an "accidental" death is nothing as compared to being charged for actual rape/murder. I can understand the panic the first night and to make up a story if this is what really happened. I do not understand continuing the lies for 9 months. It was a "somewhat" crime to cover up a stupid decision to bury an "accident" victim -- it is a MAJOR crime to keep covering up said mistake for 9 months. I say throw the book at them for keeping this out there for all this time.
That is being generous IF and only IF that scenario is true. Personally, I think it's hogwash too.

[CSI]

I don't know but that C&C from what I've seen from pictures doesn't seem a place to me (at least not for a sunday-night) where xtc is common used.
Posted by: fokje | Saturday, February 25, 2006 at 05:00 PM

There is not a lot of drug use there, if any. This is mostly a tourist place, and if there are drugs, they take them prior. There are some drug dealers that hang out around there since it is near the docks. They sell to the tourists who are looking for drugs. They are not pushy. You would be surprised how many middle aged tourists go there. I have seen some there who had to be at least 70+.

For me, the place gets too loud when a group of American kids come in. They think it is cool to dance on the bar, and to do jello shots, something they can not do at home. They go to meet locals. It is almost a status symbol of the vacation. They are just there to have fun and to have stories to tell their friends back home.

I would be interested for others who actually go or have been there to post.

[tin-cup]

Dan, that is the most reasonable senerio I have heard yet. I don't see it as 'critizing' a whole community, I see it as a reasonable statement that the MB crowd keeps their lips shut and pretends they are a bunch of saints, when in fact the alabama wilderness chickens are just as wild as say........teens from da hood, possibly even wilder.

[wvcountrygirl]

Great post Dan. I've followed this blog for a few months and have shared some of the same thoughts, but I beleive "dear old dad" is in the picture. We know there was a call to the party boat guy, but perhaps he couldn't/wouldn't help and as a last resort dad is called in to dispose of the body....perhaps the well, was that ever searched? Anyway, that would give Joran more incentive to not break during interrogations, saving any additonal tarnish to the family name, fear of dad, compassion for mom, etc...

[NJ State Trooper]

For the logically challenged of you that thinks that Natalee took a swim and drowned, where are her flip flops/sandals? Did she go swimming in them? And if so, why didn't they float back to the beach since every indication is that currents bring anything back to sure until you are out over 1 km. Or is the secret to proving Joran Van der Sloot's innocence, a masked shoe thief who scours the beaches of Aruba satisfying his fetish by scrounging up shoes left my drunk tourists or Dutch casanovas--- perhaps Imelda Marcos didn't die after all, she is actually in hiding in Aruba, with a pregnant Natalee and a room full of shoes, including Joran's K-Swiss and Natalee's filp flops.

[tin-cup]

how do you know who knows about ecstasty and who doesn't, are you one of the alabama wilderness chickens?

[CSI]

For anyone who is very familiar with Aruba, I do not feel there is a way in this time frame we have been given, that Joran could dispose of Natalee and be home by three.

The island is not that big, she would have been found by now with all that has been involved looking for her.

I have no info on what happened to her, but I am still not sure who is responsible, if in fact, a crime has been committed. Like Dan, I am really wondering what is hidden in MB? I have never seen such a PR blitz in my life. Heck, the Pres does not get this much press.

Me thinks thou doest protest too much Beth and MB!!!

[Justice4All]

The psychology of Natalee Holloway is likely a somewhat troubled one. She appears to have worked incredibly hard to have measured up. And it's at least possible that some of those same forces caused her to go a bit too near the edge when she found herself unrestrained by the dominating influence of her Mother.

Stars, pro backetball and football players, even normal people thank their moms for riding their asses all the time and credit them with there success but, come on.

Why blame Beth for bearing overbearing, we none of us really know her. And God willing none of us will know what she has and will finish going thru this ordeal.
I imagine something like this can change a persons whole personality. Think about it. My opinion.

[Bigfish]

Great commentary Dan! Thanks.

BF

[lurking]

Thank you for writing and posting this! This scenario makes the most sense of any I've heard. Excellent observation about walking up and down the beach - exactly what you would do to sober someone up. This fits with what I saw in his interview and the questions where I thought he was hedging or lying.

The only things I would change about it is that Joren seeing her bad condition handed her off to someone else who would be able to help her but while she was still alive - but maybe she was in and out of consciousness. At this point he truly didn't realize how bad the situation was - didn't they say he looked at porn when he got home?

I would also suggest alcohol poisoning rather than drug overdose. How could someone of Joren's size and in his drunken state realize how alcohol would affect a 110 pound girl.

The shoes? Lots of people are absent minded, especially when distracted and they forget stuff. My other idea about them is that NH may have vomited on them - wouldn't that be the kind of thing Joren wouldn't want to explain to his Dad when he got home.

[wreck]

Another thing;
If this is how it really happened -- why the hell would Joran go on National TV and continue to lie? He is about to get away with his "mistake" and he wants to go on TV and bring more scrutiny to his story??? No way in hell -- he would just lay low and continue to pray people will eventually leave him alone.

[kevad]

This certainly is a plausable senerio and I don't think it totally blames Natalee. If the boys supplied the drug that caused her die, and if some of them also took it, in their minds they may have paniced and lied to avoid giving any reason for early blood tests of themselves and Natalee which results early on would have supported or at least strongly suggested they supplied the drug and thus are guilty of a crime. If she died due to drugs they supplied I would think Aruba law has some sort of manslaughter or 2nd degree murder charge that could be made against them.

[annie]

Very interesting Dan. Yes, this could have happened, but what about the phone? I thought that was back at the hotel. Do you think that this could have been what happened to Natalee re her death, but that it was back at her hotel amongst a select few from MB that she died, and knowing what had happened to Natalee, they could not risk all the scandal of people finding out about the drugs and goings on!

[lurking]

"xxx, you're so right! Yes, Dan is trying really really really hard at sounding suddenly reasonable and yet getting in his jabs at the VICTIM."

Just read some of the comments here. How does this scenario blame the victim?

This scenario just says kids are kids, kids do stupid stuff, kids have believe they are invulnerable and immortal, and bad stuff happens sometimes.

[njstatetrooper]

Dan. While I think parts of your theory are plausible, I believe that something went terribly wrong that night due to Ms Holloway's condition and the boys panicked, it is the most logical solution to me. However, I found it bizarre that you spent 95% of your article focusing on the behavior of Natalee and the MB students, and include a throwaway sentence at the end about the disposal of the body as if Natalee was a piece of trash to be discarded. If your scenario is true, these boys are true vermin, and I would hope that you will write a follow up which treats the criminal disposal of a young American gril's dead body as the moral equivalent of kids blowing out on spring break. Your commentary is without a moral compass.

A similar analogy would be concocting a 2000 word scenario where one would postulate that Taylor Behl, who seems to have a much wilder history than NH, died from a combination of drugs and wild sex that was likely brought on by her evil middle class upbringing, and then adding a throwaway line at the end about Ben Fawley dismembering and disposing of her body as if that was the natural thing for him to do.

The pain of Ms. Behl's mother is no different than that of Ms. Twitty, and if it is true that the boys disposed of her body after she died of an OD and are lying about it and depriving the family of the ability to bury their daughter and gain closer, that is just as morally reprehensible to me as if they had raped and murdered her.

PS. I heard a n MSM commentator last night suggest that there are internet records showing that Joran was on the internet in the early morning hours looking at porn sites after he got home? Anyone have a link to information regarding this. Interesting it would be, if JVDS, Scott Peterson, Neil Entwistle and Ben Fawley are all purveyors of porn/ porn addicts.

[edward]

Excellent work Dan...You really have thought this out well.

[Dan]

Some of you simply amaze me. You have more interest in seeing attacks that aren't there and launching your own shen they are so unnecessary. Obviously I am trying to assemble facts, presents theories as much, if not more than most here. And I let people read them, evaluate and comment on them. I don't jump down in the slop with some of you as you show that, more than solving a mystery, you just have some sad trait that wants to fight, bash, accuse, no matter what the case. I can only imagine how sad and empty must be your own lives and minds.

As to some of the legit questions - yep, anyway I look at things, there are always descrepancies. The same facts or suppositions can often go two or more ways with a slight change in thought. What I tried to do here is cobble together a scaenario that doesnt paint everyone as devils, because I can't find proof that any are. What doesnt make sense to me is if someone came along and took Natalee from the beach, they would also take a pair of sneakers. But then, who knows. The whole thing has gotten crazy a long time ago.

I wish a network with some serious resources would really look into the case and really clear up some facts.

[iwabwu]

Dan,

I think a good comprehensive investigation would clear up some facts ~ it doesn't have to be a network. Who would want a pair of size 14 shoes? How many on Aruba would fit into them?

[Bethdefender]

I am sick to death of people blaming Beth for this and putting her down for her efforts.
Damn all of you that bash her.
Unitl you lose on of your own you have nto idea what she feeling or thinking.
She also has much more info than any of us do.

This is not about Beth !! Get it ?

Stop the bashing of her and pointing fingers at the MTBROOK People. Bottom line here is
Natalee is missing. The 3 AMIGOES were the last ones with her. The dad said no body no crime.

Now what the hell does one with a normal mind think of all that.

Get real people.

[CSI]

I wish a network with some serious resources would really look into the case and really clear up some facts.

Posted by: Dan | Saturday, February 25, 2006 at 05:52 PM

My wish also. I can not understand why they don't.

[annie]

I could actually see the MB kids covering this up more than I could see Joran and Co though, because kids die all the time from overdose, and it does not make the people with them responsible. Joran could always have said that he did not know anything about it, and she must have taken something earlier in the evening.

[annie]

Remember, those chaperones were supposed to be looking out for these kids!

[COLUMBO]

makes no more sense than Joran getting into mud helping to launch a boat or chasing a fleeing Natalee...I think an equal amount of thought needs to be devoted to developing a psychological profile of Aruba the way MB was analyzed.

Also, if NH was not dropped with two security guards at the HI, then where else could she have been dropped off (unconcious) where there would have been security guards????

Babylon (in a glamorous, glittering Arabic atmosphere): http://www.wyndham.com/hotels/AUAPB/casablancacasino/main.wnt

"We also feature a special high limit exclusive area" (....while of gold bricks the road is not paved)

"The Casino Bar offers specialty drink favorites and live music which will keep the rhythm of the night pumping. " (for those who cRave music)

Babylonians and shivas do NOT play in sand castles

[kevad]

Joran could always have said that he did not know anything about it, and she must have taken something earlier in the evening.

Posted by: annie | Saturday, February 25, 2006 at 05:55 PM

Not necessarily if he rushed a dying/dead body to the ER and everybody including trained doctors could see he was high on something too.

[Dan]

Get real people.

Oh, shut up. Start thinking about ethical behavior and being decent and not calling people rapists and murders to the extreme that one begins using people's compassion and sympathy as an excuse for behaving with an unhinged maliciousness.

[wreck]

There is NO punishment in Aruba for bringing in a drug overdose patient. None. In fact they are commended -- no matter your complicity or your state either.