Taylor Behl Update - No Death Penalty For Fawley

Looks like no death penalty for Fawley.

The prosecutor in the case of an amateur photographer charged with killing 17-year-old Virginia Commonwealth University student Taylor Behl agreed Monday to amend the indictment against him.

Mathews County Commonwealth's Attorney Jack Gill agreed to change the language of the murder indictment against Benjamin Fawley, 38, charging him with second-degree murder in Behl's death.

In a brief hearing in Mathews Circuit Court, defense attorneys argued that, as originally worded, the indictment was flawed because it offered multiple options to how Behl died.

The original indictment charged Fawley of first-degree murder while committing another felony, such as rape, sodomy or abduction. Under that indictment, Fawley could have been tried to capital murder and sentenced to death if convicted.

Comments

[error404]

The comment is only inappropriate if a reader personalises it instead of reflects upon the relavancy of the Laws and associated issues that it addresses.
That being said, it is the reader's perogative to interpret,or misinterpret, anything they read, just as it is mine to question the legitimacy of what I believe to be, a very outdated, ancient legislation.

I have never said that I would not want Fawley to be removed from society indefinitely should it be proven in a court of law that he has committed the crime in the way that people perceive, I've simply argued that he, like anyone else, has the right to a fair trial and that all of the facts of the case should be presented before a decision is made.

I HAVE jumped very quickly to the defense of those who have not committed any crime at all, but who have, instead, been repeatedly attacked, simply because of their association with ben fawley.

I find comments on this forum directed at Fawley's friends, (e.g. one being called a whore/porno-queen, slut etc the other being called a fag, homo, pervert etc), FAR more inappropriate and offensive than anything I have brought to the table.

... Maybe I should have used a more coloquial expression for 'orgasm'? Cum perhaps?

[K]

It seems some people come here to pump up their own egos and to offend however might take offense. this board should be about the facts surrounding this case and not a place to "practice" your so-called "legal" premises.
Error has been on this board for as long as I can remember and I have been here since September. It appears that "he" is personally invested in some of the key figures and as such does attempt to stir up issues around what "he" calls "attacks".
BTW, Error, if these people are strangers to you than why do you have empathy for them and HOW DO YOU KNOW that any player in this crime is totally innocent of having some part in that crime. If you are "certain" of this than it would likely follow that you do have some personal attachment to these folks.

[K]

Oops, befoe E404 jumps all over me for typos..."whoever" not however...from the above "to offend however might take offense".
Also I mention the "empathy" point because a while back E404 stated, "he" doesn't feel empathy/emotions for strangers and reserves that for those he knows personally.

[error404]

K - I am actually a 'She'

Which just goes to show how little we really know about anyone or anything over the internet.

[Rick]

It is not empathetic to defend people who have no (known) connection to what happened to Taylor other than knowing the person who killed her. I too find it sick and disgusting, the names thrown at fawley's friends. I wonder, had it been someone else who was killed, would Taylor then be the "whore, porno-queen, slut"? After all her "modeling" may have been on the same path and it is VERY likely that she would have defended her friend's right to a trial.Error has basically said the same thing all along that I have. We know only a handful of facts and have no right blaming his friends for his crime. She apparently agrees with this magical age of 18 BS that society invented ages ago. Taylor was not some ten year old kidnapped at the bus stop or some 13 year old seduced over the net. She knew exactly what she wanted and what she was doing when she got in fawley's bed the first time. And no, I am not saying she asked for what eventually happened or that she deserved it or any other such nonsense. Just that she made the same choice millions of other 17 year olds make every blasted day with their eyes wide open.

[k]

Error: note the "he" is in parenthesis...as one never knows anyone's reality in reference to who posts here.

It can still be noted that you do not address the actual comments as to why you seem so angry after prophesing that those here should reserve "feelings/empathy" for those they know.

Most of us who remain here continue to post messages and to discuss the case and not each other. Most of us have refrained from demeaning,accusing or otherwise suggesting that specific others may be involved or may somehow be responsible for events leading to Taylor's death.

Most people here are really trying to avoid petty one ups-man style posts.

[k]

BTW, motions that were tabled at the last hearing will be heard tomorrow...this is per the court tv message board...apparently,the defense seeks to get a computer expert and a Private Investigator.

[justathought]

Ok Error I have a question for you because you feel you know the laws and how they are out dated and so on.

WHERE WAS TAYLOR'S FAIR TRIAL??????????????????? If you want to jump on someone one for not giving bf a fair shake then the same should go for Taylor to say the least! So if there is a problem with "our" thoughts and feelings on the matter think for one moment why should we feel differently for bf than he felt for Taylor that night?

God Bless you Janet and Taylor too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

When bf can turn back the hands of time and undo what he did to Taylor and give her a fair trial then I think we will all worry if he is going to have one or not!

[error404]

justathought - In death, Taylor, her family and friends deserve THIS trial to be a fair trial, they deserve to know as many facts as possible about this tragedy, they deserve as many answers as possible, they deserve the CORRECT verdict to be reached based on evidence and facts, they deserve the RIGHT outcome, in summary, they deserve closure.

This closure can only be brought about by having all of the facts put on the table AND by having a fair trial where personal bias and discrimination is not permitted to come into play.

It is not just Fawley who is entitled to a fair trial, but also Taylor behl, her family and her friends.

[error404]

Rick - Well said, my thoughts exactly.

[Peace]

Justathought - what happened to Taylor is horrible. Whether she was murdered or accidentally killed, well - everyone has their opinions on that and I have faith that our justice system will find the correct answer. But if WE - as the general public - decide that Ben murdered her and that he therefore does not deserve a fair trial be WE decided without all of the facts, then we lower ourselves to Ben's level of taking away her choice for life. I'm not sure if I'm explaining that well enough or not. I also want justice for Taylor. I believe that a fair trial is in order and then let the verdict stand. We must be above the level that tries a case without the facts.

I understand that you care deeply for Taylor and her family and I respect that. I also care deeply for her, her family and her friends on many different levels. I think it's wonderful that you defend her. The sad truth is that it's out of our hands now and in the hands of the American justice system. Anything else is a lynch mob.

[justathought]

I think it is funny that "we" are the "lynch mob" but bf has confessed to killing her and he is the good guy. Ok in your strange little world so be it and if that makes me a member of the "lynch mob" for taking him at his word then so be it. Lynchburg is right down the road from here "we" can always take him there for the lynching seeing as how that is how it got it's name

[nova]

I am posting this for all to see what some young people are into now. And also as a idea of what you will see the defense try to bring up in this case. This whole area will not be left unexplored by the defense. In fact the story in todays Richmond Times Dispatch ends with the defense lawyer saying they will go into this fetish underworld. Just because there is no direct link between fetish and this case doesnt mean the defense wont try to use it.
It will be interesting to see if the judge allows any of it in. Note: Use of Myspace and Livejournal to spread the word of these shows. More connections to the internet and its uses by young people.

http://community.livejournal.com/washingtonbound/51625.html?#cutid1

[Rick]

Nova: Here's something that will shiver your timbers. It aint just college kids doing this stuff. It goes down to middle school too. Yep, 12 year olds having sex parties.

[error404]

The youth of our society have always been exploratory and experimental, that's just the way teenagers and young people are, and have always been, as they attempt to define themselves and their place in the world.

Sure it can be a high-risk phase in their lives, but the activities young people participate in now, are no different from those they engaged in when I was a youth, it's simply that the internet has become a medium to highlight and expose the activities they explore, whereas prior to the internet, their explorations and risk-taking behaviours used to be kept behind closed doors and written down in private, paper-form journals.

Oh... And by the way, some may be surprised at the number or 'older people' who also enjoy the fun, excitement and fantasy of the fetish scene, people who hold regular, respected positions in society, teachers, judges, doctors etc.

I just hope that when the Taylor behl case goes to trial, people keep an open-mind and do not become vindictive.

People shouldn't judge others by their own cultures and contexts.

Simply because many of our youth have found another medium to explore, push the boundaries or conservatism and take risks in - it doesn't mean that they are 'bad people' or should be looked down upon.

[peace]

I think it is funny that "we" are the "lynch mob" but bf has confessed to killing her and he is the good guy. Ok in your strange little world so be it and if that makes me a member of the "lynch mob" for taking him at his word then so be it. Lynchburg is right down the road from here "we" can always take him there for the lynching seeing as how that is how it got it's name

Posted by: justathought | Wednesday, February 22, 2006 at 06:08 PM

Justabithostile - Wow. Just exactly who said he is the good guy?

[Rick]

error: We agree a lot, but the thought of pre-teens "experimenting" with any sort of sex troubles me. Though I am well aware that it is happening.

"Oh... And by the way, some may be surprised at the number or 'older people' who also enjoy the fun, excitement and fantasy of the fetish scene, people who hold regular, respected positions in society, teachers, judges, doctors etc"

Have you been spying on me? Shame on you ;-) 'Tis sad that so many people seem to think that people who aren't like them are somehow warped, wierd and perverted. I think there are a lot of people here who cannot get past Taylor's age Vs fawley's age. Cannot/will not consider that it may well have been an accident, ie unintentional. He confessed to causing her death, not to murder, that is manslaughter and in most states not a capitol crime.

[k]

Okay, please don't forget his miles & miles of web pages...his history of violence toward women...forget the age difference if you must but don't forget he is a leach and a crimminal, in general, and that he tracked and hunted many a prey. Age difference only matter when one uses it to their advantage over the other. He did that. Let him have his fair trial but God I hope the prosecution can show what a cunning and conning person he is and how he mapped everything from the crimes on the VCU campus, everyone who ever visited his websites, the types of women he had taken photos of, had sex with and had troubles with. His own writing/photos/abduction and home invasion/bashing stories set the scene for everything he was planning. Anyone looking through his vast on-line material has to see how he tells stories of things that happend to him that indeed he actually perpetrated on others. Don't underestimate this guy he is not stupid or someone to be pitied. He is a con artist, a thief, most likely a sociopath and a predator.Maybe he didn't start out planning to kill Taylor but he did kill her.
For those looking to exhonorate this guy, why don't you wait for the "fair trial" too.

[nova]

BF's problems are made worse by the fact that he did not report the "accident" for over one month. That he was out handing out flyers when everyone was looking for her and he knew full well where he had left her body. He had a long string of lies beginning the night of Sept.5th,2005. So why should anyone believe anything he says?
He did not even report the "accident" until he heard her remains had been found. That was over a month after the so called "accident". I would say in those 4 weeks he had plenty of time to conjure up the Robert Chambers rough sex defense. But it did not work for Chambers. Chambers pled guilty in a plea deal that gave him 15 years mandatory for first degree manslaughter. BF's problem is worse because he waited 4 weeks and only "confessed" when her remains were found. I dont think that will go over well with the jury.
I expect the defense to come up with a version of the story that will be pure fiction from start to finish. I doubt anyone is going to buy that novel.
If he had reported the crime right away he might have had a chance to sell his story but by waiting 4 weeks and only coming forward after her remains had been located he has made his situation much much worse. He not only killed her by his own admission he tried to hide it and cover it up and what will be his excuse for that? That he was an ex con and the police would not believe him if he told the truth?

[Rick]

From what little we know of evidence. All the defense has to do is say "He admits killing her accidently.......now PROVE otherwise." The defense did not work for Chambers because they had an autopsy that showed just how "rough" he really was.

[raindrops]

I'm sure the defense will want to talk about BF's love for his children. That's always a popular tactic, but will they want the prosecution to present witnesses from VCU that he regularly paraded his children around using them to meet girls? Of course, they'll say that is just conjecture, but there are plenty of girls who attended VCU who saw it and were uneasy about it. It's one of the reasons that some of them avoided him. Their thinking was that any guy who would use his kids to pick up girls was pretty sleazy. So the kids help to soften the harshness of the fetish scene, but could it backfire if the prosecution can work in the "older sleazy creep" angle?

I think too that his age versus hers will hurt him a lot. Many people will see an older man luring a young, innocent girl into a scene that she didn't understand and wasn't prepared to cope with. That may or may not be an entirely accurate picture of Taylor, but it's a picture that many parents would be more comfortable with than facing the idea that she was willingly and eagerly experimenting with something that frightens them. The defense would be wise to keep as many parents off the jury as possible.

[error404]

"error: We agree a lot, but the thought of pre-teens "experimenting" with any sort of sex troubles me. Though I am well aware that it is happening".

Posted by: Rick | Thursday, February 23, 2006 at 01:53 PM

Rick, a LOT of things pre-teens and teens experiment with trouble me, but that doesn't mean that I judge them or perceive them to be lesser people than the intelligent, articulate kids many of them generally are, as I'm sure, neither do you.

I also haven't stated one way or another whether I 'believe' fawley's story, I think there are numerous 'possible' reasons NOT to believe it, but without evidence, I try not to act as judge and jury, and even if fawley was found guilty, I couldn't find enough hatred within myself to feel vindictive towards him, because I once knew someone who, in many ways, 'appeared' to resemble him.

I believe that the Taylor behl case is a tragedy in more ways than one.

I know from personal experience how the aftermath of such a tragedy can have far-reaching effects on all those who may have loved and cared for both the perpetrator and the victim.

People can't just switch off their feelings for someone who has gone over the edge for whatever reason and committed a crime, (whatever the degree of the crime), often, those who loved and cared for someone like fawley: his family, his children, his friends, are left feeling saddened and confused, I know from my own experience that whilst I hated the vile ACT and BEHAVIOUR of the person who murdered someone very close to me, I could not find it within myself to hate the PERSON himself.

From my own experience, when BOTH the victim and the perpetrator were people who were once close to you, you not only lose, in the most horrific way, one of the people you loved, to a violent, indescribable death, but you also lose the other to the hell and insanity that, for whatever reason, has taken over his own mind.

It's a tragic, duel, grieving process.

I'm simply providing my perspective in order to attempt to explain why I feel angry when people start attacking those, in the real world, who have enough to cope with as it is.

I'm not even saying that those in the real world affected by this tragedy are feeling and responding to it in the way that I described.

I'm just wanting people to cut them some slack, particularly when the case goes to trial and certain details come to light, and understand that they will have enough to cope with, without the narrow-minded, vengeful comments of the media or strangers, compounding their confusion and grief.

By cut 'them' some slack, I am referring to ANYONE in the real world who has been scarred by this tragedy.

I'm realistic enough, however, to know that this probably wont be the case...

[Rick]

error: If you and I can find something to disagree upon the debate may be fun. We are all affected by events and circumstances in our lives as everyone knows. There are very fortunate people out there who have never been exposed to tradgedy, to crime or the "justice" system. They seem only to meet perfect children for whom toilet papering the neighbor's lawn is the most mischevious they get. Must be wonderful, very like 1950s-60s television. I am not accusing anyone here of being ignorant. Just making an observation.

[nova]

BF seems like a mentally unstable person to me. A person who was not taking his medication. Is this grounds for some kind of insanity defense?
From the beginning I thought this happened because BF wanted T to do something that night and she refused. And he lost his temper. With no medication the crazy violent BF came out and killed her. Then he just began his feeble attempt to cover up his crime. Somewhat like the guy in CRIME AND PUNISHLMENT and also several Edgar Allen Poe stories. Also check out the movie SHALLOW GRAVES. Acts like what he did are often associated with alcohol or drugs or mental illness. Or a combination of all 3. Or just plain evil.
I predict he will be found guilty. Either of second degree murder or first degree manslaughter. Hopefully Va. will give him life in prison. It seems he is too mentally unstable to be on the outside of some kind of institution.

[error404]

"error: If you and I can find something to disagree upon the debate may be fun."
Posted by: error404 | Friday, February 24, 2006 at 01:39 AM

How about which one of us looks better in latex? ;)

[Rick]

LMAO: Well, you'd have to go some to look better than this fat old man. LOL But I bet you look better in heels.

[error404]

"LMAO: Well, you'd have to go some to look better than this fat old man".
Posted by: Rick | Friday, February 24, 2006 at 08:56 PM

Aww hell no! Maybe when I was in my prime and pre-forty!!!

As for the heels, I hate to put a damper on your fantasies, but I'm as flat-footed as an ox and I'm afraid of heights! :)

[justathought]

And how does the above have anything at all to do with the Taylor case?????????????

[abigail]

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Feb 23, 2006, 07:41 AM
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Murder suspect Ben Fawley gets another small victory in court. He's the man charged with killing VCU freshman Taylor Behl.

A judge in Mathews County has granted Fawley's defense team $7000 to hire a computer expert and private investigator.

Fawley's lawyers say the computer expert will search the hard drives that were seized for evidence and the private investigator will be used to track down witnesses.

Fawley's trial is scheduled to begin in May.

[error404]

justathought: A little light-hearted jest between two people to 'break the tension', sure beats the hostility you demonstrate towards people who have a personal involvement in the taylor behl tragedy...

The hiring of the computer expert who will undoubtedly attempt to retrieve deleted material from fawley's hard drives, indicates that fawley believes there is deleted material, e.g. IM messages etc., which if recovered, could work to his advantage, it could however, just as easily blow up in his face.

Only time and the trial will tell, I guess.

[Rick]

Ladies please. JAT the only two people here for days have been me and Error. She mentioned my second favorite color (latex) and I responded. Not like you and Abigail and me havent done the same thing.
If the prosecution simply asks the PI and computer geek must turn over whatever they find and yes, it may blow up in bennie's face.

[Diane]

This may hurt BF in the long run as it opens up a door to find more evidence to be used against him. I have been reading alot on the bipolar illness and cases.Most of the people never face the death penalty because of the illness so I am wondering if this may have been the reason in the wording that they had to amend the indictment?? I also found interesting is the fact they are very intelligent people.IMO BF is no dummy he has been around the system for years and knew how to use it to his advantage.What bothers me about this case is the jury may never hear evidence of the past cases which could work to BF's advantage.

[abigail]

I did not know latex was a color Piglet! heh.

[Rick]

There you are Abby. Well, yes, yes in my dark lil world latex is a color and red is a flavor. I must be careful not to give away too many secrets though.

[abigail]

Weird. They really don't reverse well. I'm here, just trying to stay out of the line of fire as you know I can take it a bit personally, but that's how God made me! :)

[Rick]

Yeah,you do tend to take things personally, silly old bear. But sensitivity shows heart and you got a big one.

[abigail]

Apparently to some that is not worth the honey in the pot! Oh well. Won't change, but you know I can also be a--well you know. My heart would change direction if anyone messed with my girl though, no silly old bear then. I'd be a mean old momma bear, as I'd protect my cub! Speaking of bears did you hear what happened here? I'll send you the link. The city is in a uproar over this. The park where the bears lived is basically a staple of Richmond and where parents take their kids to see animals, but especially the bears...that's your intro. I'd be surprised if Taylor did not visit there as it's right off the Boulevard.

[error404]

abigail, firstly, I apologise for hurting your feelings, I admit that I can be a bit of a hard, angry person at times. Secondly, insofar as I'm aware, you haven't made any derogatory or lewd comments of any nature about any of Fawley's friends, so I assure you that my anger was directed at those who DID and not yourself.

There's nothing wrong with being sensitive and kind and they're certainly not characteristics I would expect you to change or apologise for.

The only time I felt any kind of anger towards you was when you insinuated I might say something to hurt any of the people who know Taylor and Ben personally, I know who these people are and I would never do that.

But your heart was in the right place.

I guess we all speak from our own personal spaces and experiences.

Rick - latex is a type of rubber that looks like painted on skin, but yes, you can get it in different colours. :)

I used to wear it a lot in my pre-teacher days. ;)

[kinsey]

Wow I have missed alot....been away for a while....many deaths the last few months in my b/f family....Ab's hey girl....still a spitfire I see...
Rick ^5.error, error, error.....as i shake my head.I wont go drawn out and long but I too think the kettle of fish comment was out of line,and before retalliation I speak as a woman who knows from fact.the big O thing for those who will tell the truth (women) usually comes long after we are legally able consent... so null and void on that one....as for Sympathy, sadness and that whole speal....Lets call it empathy for a mother who has lost her beautiful child and a desire for vengence in her name against a bastard who could have easily lived doors from your daughter, neice, sister etc....I dont think anyone has gone overboard with their emotions.
And the vivgilante court you wrote of...well I woudnt be opposed to it....If it would save a mother from experiencing grief remotely close to what Janet P and MYSELF have personally endured.
respectfully, Kinsey

[kinsey]

Oh and for those who had'nt noticed KINSEY'S BACK
MHUUUA HA HA HA

[abigail]

error--thanks, I just don't like my feelings to be questioned by anyone, after all they are mine, and from what I've expressed about this case and Taylor I do not feel like I was wrong by being compassionate. No, I've never taken a mean stab at bf's friends or what any of them are into. I did not feel any reason to, as they have not been charged with anything as far as Taylor goes to my knowledge. To each their own as long as they are not hurting others--just MO.
I apologize to you for any conclusions I may have jumped to about what you were trying to express, but I guess the way I read some of your posts would have broke my heart if I was Taylors mother, friend, whatever. They lurk here and of course it's their choice...
We are all different and come from various places, situations and families, etc. My grandma used to say, "what kind of world would it be if we were all the same?". My guess would be: fairly boring, but I could do without the molesters, murderers and so on.

Rick would like the latex in candy apple red:) and I wanna see a picture!

[abigail]

Kins,

Sorry about your bad news. Hope things are getting better. Glad to have you back woman!

[error404]

"I dont think anyone has gone overboard with their emotions.
And the vivgilante court you wrote of...well I woudnt be opposed to it....If it would save a mother from experiencing grief remotely close to what Janet P and MYSELF have personally endured".
Posted by: kinsey | Monday, February 27, 2006 at 11:06 AM

I am also a mother who has also endured a similar tragedy in my life, and from my experience the last thing I wanted was the violent, brutal action of the perpetrator, to instill hatred and violence in others, for to me, that would only result in the perpetrator reducing others to his own level.

In which case - the criminal has won, and hostility spreads through society, like a disease. Violence breeds more violence, giving rise to further resentment and even more crime.

Fawley hasn't had his day in court yet, but many determined what his motive and actions were before he was even named a suspect.

That in itself could detriment the very outcome most people are hoping for, which only strengthens whatever case fawley may have to plea.

As yet, there is no evidence to prove that fawley's version of events isn't the truth, sure, there are judgements and opinions, but no facts.

Any number of reasons could account for his appearing to look self-serving and callous when he participed in every day activities after the 'event', post-traumatic shock being one of them.

An apparant lack of remorse, is not proof of guilt.

Like it or not, this will more than likely be stated as part of his defense, backed up with psychological reports and case-studies of similar scenarios.

Adopting a vigilante attitude may make the general public feel better, but it little to ensure that an accurate and just verdict can be reached during a trial.

Can you envision what might happen if the vigilantes that you speak of hollor for Fawley's blood outside of the courtroom? Do you really believe that this form of 'self-healing' and 'venting' would help to achieve Justice?

Murderers have walked for less... I've witnessed it first-hand.

Sure, people's hearts may be in the right place, but I hesitate to say where their heads are stuck...

[Rick]

"Rick - latex is a type of rubber that looks like painted on skin, but yes, you can get it in different colours. :)"

No Sh*t!? Well next I suppose you'll be telling me my favorite color is made out of tanned and dyed cow skins.

[Rick]

"Rick would like the latex in candy apple red:) and I wanna see a picture!"

No Abby, that's my fave nail polish flavor.

[abigail]

Rick, you're really not supposed to eat the nail polish as it will make you really sick! :)

[peace]

I am also a mother who has also endured a similar tragedy in my life, and from my experience the last thing I wanted was the violent, brutal action of the perpetrator, to instill hatred and violence in others, for to me, that would only result in the perpetrator reducing others to his own level.

In which case - the criminal has won, and hostility spreads through society, like a disease. Violence breeds more violence, giving rise to further resentment and even more crime.

Fawley hasn't had his day in court yet, but many determined what his motive and actions were before he was even named a suspect.

That in itself could detriment the very outcome most people are hoping for, which only strengthens whatever case fawley may have to plea.

As yet, there is no evidence to prove that fawley's version of events isn't the truth, sure, there are judgements and opinions, but no facts.

Adopting a vigilante attitude may make the general public feel better, but it little to ensure that an accurate and just verdict can be reached during a trial.

Can you envision what might happen if the vigilantes that you speak of hollor for Fawley's blood outside of the courtroom? Do you really believe that this form of 'self-healing' and 'venting' would help to achieve Justice?

Posted by: error404 | Tuesday, February 28, 2006 at 04:58 AM

Error404 - this was so well said! We need to practice patience and let the justice system handle it now. It is hard, we do all have opinions, but opinions need to have some responsibility behind the sharing.

[abigail]

error, I'm sorry if you had to suffer such an indecency about a child as a mother compared to what Janet is going through, and I commend you for keeping your anger under wraps especially when you see it happening again. However, God gave us emotions and made us all different in how we handle them. Most of us know from statements and inconsistencies from bf that he is a liar. So yes, we have judged him in a way, but not without warrent. We are allowed as we live in America and everyone is entitled to their opinion. It happens everyday with loved ones, co-workers or what have you. I have to decide whether or not my kid is telling the truth about something weekly, and it is up to me to correct her and teach her why it is wrong to deceive and not be honest. It's human nature--to be angry, to blame. Yes, we ourselves cannot actually "convict" bf just because we want justice and we know that. I think many of us are going on what we have read and heard, and many of us are the people of The Commonwealth of Virginia and we want our state safe from people like this. We want our kids to go to college in the state (cheaper and close by) and not have to deal with this mess.
I know all of us are curious to your situation and no one has asked you to share...so, I'm asking you to share if you will.
Thanks for your input--honestly. I understand that we both "hold" things in and "express" things differently, and that's okay!
Take care and I hope to hear your story as it seems you have one to tell.

[error404]

My 'story' is old news, and as with all old news, it has, (thankfully), lost its appeal.

abigail, yes, it is human nature to feel a range of emotions when confronted with the brutality of a tragedy such as this one. I apologise for devaluing those emotions, as Peace so wisely stated, 'opinions need to have some responsibility behind the sharing'.

The grace and dignity all those who have a personal involvement in this case are demonstrating, is most humbling.

I will patiently await the upcoming trial, I guess I have my own motives for being interested in its outcome.

Until then, take care, irrespective of where in the world you may live.

Greetings from New Zealand
(A long, hot Summer is heading your way soon!)

~error404~

[abigail]

error--

Your "old news" may be something we could learn from, I won't push it though, but sharing does have a wonderful introspect on how we can understand each other.

IMO, if something like this happened to my "baby" I would not want it to fade although I know it would eventually. I think I would share it with the world. I pray I never have to though. Hope she's never the topic of a blog especially if she's dead.

Hope we get a long hot summer for swimming and sweating our butts off doing yard work! Good for getting my "winter" coat (blubber) off! :)

Take care and keep in touch error. I think Rick ate the polish and got sick as he has not been around in a few days!