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One way flight, huh and I recall Neil told Rachel's family members he doesn't remember leaving US, well just show em the tapes at the airport, maybe that'll jog his memory.

You see in the news men murder their wives, but by God, shoot your baby in the stomach and left to die, coroners say that is a painful and long death? Why??

Thanks for the reports Dan. I was afraid of this, as I'm sure most were. It will be interesting to see this unfold.

So, murder-suicide by Neil was stopped short by himself at the crucial moment of taking his own life. What a pity. What a coward. Then he runs home to mummy and daddy. What a coward. Why didn't his parents turn him in? What cowards, all of them.

I hate this, I just didn't think a family that appeared so happy in their photos would have their lives ended by the husband/father. I am surprised that I can still be surprised by heinous crimes such as this.

At least it sounds like LE have truly nailed him with evidence. Over money? Their precious lives were taken because of money? How insane is that? Jeez, get a job, get two jobs, get three jobs, hell rob a bank... but, kill your own flesh and blood? An innocent woman and child? He should have taken his own life (instead of killing his family) and been done with it.

Enjoy your life in prison, Neil. I hope your cell mate is big, ugly, mean and in dire need of emotional and sexual release.

If you had listened to what the district attorney was saying, she was saying that the supposed phone call to Rachel's family, which was reported in the 'Sun', (and anybody who knows what that porno paper is like would have doubts about authenticity), was something she had never heard about!!

All I can say is that if the posters on here are anything to go by, he does not stand a chance of an unbiased hearing. You have already convicted him before he has even been to trial. The lynch mob is alive and well and baying for blood. Why don't you reserve your judgement, you know what the Bible says, 'By what judgement you judge, you will be judged yourself!'

This is a tragedy, and none of us knows yet what really happened.

This is a tragedy, and none of us knows yet what really happened.

Posted by: annie | Thursday, February 09, 2006 at 01:24 PM


WHAT???????? Are you out of your mind???????? A tragedy yes, by a FREAKIN LUNETIC! Lemmi see, "we dont know what really happened?" <- yes it must have been terrible to see your wife sleeping next to your baby! Ah the horror! SHUT THE FU&% UP!!!! How could anybody! Jadnsmokes is 100% right! He is a coward and I hope he gets what he deservs and so should his stupid family for protecting his sorry ass!

Annie,

I agree with some of what you say, but the fact that this man (for lack of a better word)fleed the country just after his wife and infant daughters murder, with the only car in the family, and a one way ticket, after borrowing a small caliber gun which just happens to be the same type as the murder weapon it way beyond coincidental. And on top of that he doesn't show for their funerals...no way he's guilty as hell

Mike Like I said, he stands no chance of getting a fair hearing. What happened to innocent until PROVEN guilty?

Annie,

I'm just saying its way too much to be just coincidence. But you right innocent until proven guilty.

I'm sure he will try and use some crazy type of defence...maybe the old Scott Peterson hippies in the van defense.

I do believe he will get a fair trial and much better treatment then his wife and daughter received.

PROVEN guilty? What the hell more proof do you need ya frickin commie?

Annie,

Neil will most likely get the best defense attorney $ can buy. These guys love the high profile cases. In addition, he will be judged by a jury of his peers, who incidently will be selected by the defense team.
Taking comments off of the web (especially one labled 'carniverous conservative') & assuming that everyone in the US, or Mass. for that matter has made up their minds on the case is stretching reality a bit. Many said OJ would be convicted, how would he not, with all of the evidence? However his slick defense got him aquited. I live in the Nrotheast, & many people are not even following the case.

Annie,

I understand what you're saying, I don't normally convict folks in my mind before their court hearing and testimony, UNLESS the evidence brought forth by forensics and circumstances is overwhelming. In this case, I feel it is overwhelming. LE kept quiet on a ton of info, called him the "person of interest" in the case until they had enough to arrest him. They have tied a gun that was the father-in-law's to Neil (perhaps by forensics in the SUV of gunpowder) and they have verified it to be the murder weapon. I am not basing my opinion on the phone call reported by the Sun, and I don't really need to take into account that he fled with a one way ticket, wouldn't go to the embassy for questioning and remained secluded until today. I don't even have to use the fact that he was not in the obits and that Rachels family has remained silent so LE could do their job. If LE has enough to press charges, they have enough to convict and sentence.

Perhaps your rose colored glasses are blurring your vision?

Justice? I know how the defence system works in US. I worked in it!! He will probably end up with a public defender. Unlike OJ, he is not rich, and does not have family out there like Scott Peterson. You keep going on about why did he not go back for the funeral. It does cost money to fly on planes the last I heard, also where on earth would he have stayed when he got there, that costs money too, that's besides the bad feeling towards him which would have been overpowering. I am only posting on here that I think he should be regarded as innocent until proved guilty, and am being verbally stoned, so what chance would he have!!

Annie, I did not mean to give you the impression of throwing stones. Many defense attornies will work pro-bono on big cases that they feel will give them some noteriaty. I would be shocked if a big name did not pick up the case. We really don't know what Neil's family may be willing to put on the line for him.

BTW - I have never posted on this site before, so I have not "kept going on" about anything.

Come on Justice, be honest, once the media have chewed him up and spit him out, his defence, (if he decides to fight this), wont be worth a dirty rag. It is usually trial by media these days with these high profile cases, hence all the hatred for Joran & Co in the Natalee Holloway case, when there are plenty of other explantion as to what could have happened to her, and no evidence that she is even dead!

It does cost money to fly on planes the last I heard, also where on earth would he have stayed when he got there, that costs money too, that's besides the bad feeling towards him which would have been overpowering. I am only posting on here that I think he should be regarded as innocent until proved guilty, and am being verbally stoned, so what chance would he have!!

Posted by: annie | Thursday, February 09, 2006 at 05:14 PM

Well, he had the money to get the ticket to fly to London, but he forgot how he got there. I guess he could have stayed with Rachel's parents to attend the funeral. JMO. Not trying to be ugly, but this guy just does not pan out for me.

No, Abigail he did not have the money, he had to find a way to pay on a credit card, and that stuff about him phoning Rachel's parents and saying that he did not know how he got there, turns out to be a load of bull. Not surprising knowing the source it came from, the 'Sun' newspaper, perhaps it was on page 3 with the porno pics! Don't believe everything you read.

Well, IMO if he could find a way to get to London by cc, then he could have found a way back for the funeral. Maybe he did not want to try because he was already a person of interest. Is he not fighting extradition? Sounds to me like he did not want to be "stuck" here. Why did he go to London anyway if he really did not have the funds? I don't believe everything I read, even half the stuff on here, but we are all entitled to our opinions and IMO this guy is bad news. Evidently the evidence points to him as he has been arrested for the murders.

Wow Annie, you are pretty passionate about this bloke. As far as Joran goes, he is still walkin free, last I checked. Again, you are beng awfully judgmental of the entire system, apparantly based on your experience with a few people on a web log. I used OJ as an example, because it was a media frenzy & he still managed to get off. Scott Peterson's case is another example, he managed a pretty good defense & I remember holding my breath at the end, wondering if he was going to walk. BTW - I could understand him not coming back to the USA for the funeral, it is all the other crap that leads me to believe he is the guy.
I am mom to an 18 month old sweetheart, & this case has struck a cord with me for obvious reasons.
So Annie, what is your theory?

Annie, you are guilty as hell of ignorance.
Shut your face and go to bed you foolish fool.

The lady DA in Mass is no fool. She is on her game. What she said today in the press conference is proabably right on that the gun that was used belonged to Rachel's stepdad. That Neil returned it back to her mom's and stepdad's house that friday. That means that someone saw him at her parent's house. She also said murder suicide I am betting there is stuff on his computer. She is also said he is innocent until proven guilty. Rachel and Lilly have a right for a fair trial as it is Neil's right for a fair trial. This is their husband and father that is being charged. The person that was supposed to have loved them the most. What I can't seem to get out of my mind is that sweet little Lilly didn't die right away. She lived for minutes. She suffered. I feel sick to my stomach when I think of that. As for Neil he will get a great lawyer and he WILL have a fair trial. He will have his rights fought for him in court. Very sad that Rachel and Lilly didn't have their rights fought for to live on that terrible morning.

Turn it on CNN....
Kelly--I keep imagining her screaming her head off (Lilly) and waiting for her mom to come to her rescue as Rachel always did, but she could not this time...

new blog on this....

Annie, you are absolutely right in that everyone accused of a crime in this country deserves a fair trial and that they are PRESUMED innocent until proven guilty. But this isn't a jury deliberation room. It's simply an internet site where people from all over the world are posting the latest information they're getting on this case and freely giving their personal opinions as to what happened (in other words, exercising their right to free speech). Granted, all the information we have to go on at this point is what the media is feeding us. A great deal of it may be false. I can honestly say that I have yet to hear or read one piece of information that DOESN'T suggest Neil Entwistle is solely responsible for taking the lives of his wife and baby girl. I cannot join the "...but he didn't have money to fly back to the U.S. for their funeral," parade, no matter how objectively I look at it. Let's imagine for a minute that he had nothing to do with the shooting...for God's sake, his wife and his own flesh & blood were brutally MURDERED. Clifford & Yvonne Entwistle have got to be grieving the loss of their precious grandchild. I would think THEY would make sure he got back for the funeral, if not fly back with him themselves (and let's not forget the bereavement fares available with many airlines). Now don't start flaming at me; I'm not attacking NE's parents. I'm simply theorizing how this would have played out if he was truly innocent. There seems to be an overwhelming number of things he's done (or not done) that would indicate he's guilty, and so far not one thing that would indicate he's not. I'll gladly question his guilt the minute he displays the behaviors of an innocent man.

'DON'TLIKEIDIOTS'

If all you can resort to is abuse whenever you don't like or disagree with what somebody says, you must be a very immature. Are we supposed to live in a world where everybody has to have the same view (presumably yours), you nasty little turd.

Very well stated Helena--thank you!

Annie-I'll apologize in advanced, but it seems to me that you are the one who has disagreed with mostly all of the opinions posted here. As a whole I think we disagree with your strong support of ne probably because we don't understand where you are coming from. We don't "get" why you are so defensive. Perhaps instead of being so negitive towards us you could explain why you feel the way you do, as you seem personally involved. Bashing other posters for their opinions will not get you anywhere here, but if you express your thoughts and reasons why you feel the way you do might reverse the retaliation that seems to only be getting started. I don't want to see that because for the most part we all get along and agree to disagree without being ugly.

Yes, Annie, people are innocent until proven guilty, but Neil Entwhistle had the means, the motive, and the opportunity. He also displayed an abominable lack of regard for his family in not returning for the funerals. As Helena stated, many airlines offer bereavement packages - all you need do is produce a copy of the death certificate. With all the publicity if the young "grieving" father had said he couldn't afford the trip, do you think people would not have rushed forward to assist him? His reluctance to return stinks of not wanting to place himself in proximity of US authorities. His "murder,suicide" plan was the ultimate narcisscist's escape - focused entirely on HIS needs and desires. Funny how he only managed to carry out part of the plan. I'll save my sympathy for the victims.

The reason I take the stand I do is because I believe a person should be considered innocent until PROVEN guilty, and I would say the same whoever it was, even you. However, my very first posting re this, I was saying exactly what the DA said she believed it could be, that of murder with Neil chickening out of killing himself, but after writing that I did not feel too good about it, because as I said my instinct is to play fair and give people the benefit until it is proven. None of us was there, unfortunately, as I said, I believe this is as the DA said utterly TRAGIC, and not all crimes are done from malice, some motives are crazy, although the person who does them obviously have their reasons that make sense to them!!!

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