Natalee Holloway - Two Items

I want to address a specific point from a commenter, see quote. And also one other item.

Deepak fought w/some of the MB kids? Huh? The article (Birmingham Times June 10) in which the interview with Bryan Reynolds appeared ("Students tight-lipped") was in no way ambiguous--Reynolds ID'd Joran as the guy his unnamed friend was "scuffling" with.

It's my understanding there were two scuffles. One was the previous night and, if my reports are accurate, that would be the one Reynolds referenced. If so, his ID of Joran was incorrect. The night before she disappeared Natalee was said to be dancing at C and C. It's my understanding that she enjoyed dancing and that it might have been provocative, or perhaps flirtatious, though not overly so. Of that, I'm unclear.

A tall Dutch guy was said to have approached her on the dance floor and groped her. One of the MB students intervened. Initial statements that it was JVDS are said to have been incorrect. It was apparently another boy, or man. At least that's what I have been told from sources in MB.

The next night Deepak and an MB boy had some sort of a bumping incident which led to a spilled drink. Satish came over, words were exchanged, but nothing significant was said to have come of it. I believe an MB male may have been sent outside to cool down.

The second point, which is important, should show that I am not playing sides. A source told me some time ago that the day after Natalee's disappearance Joran did show up at school. It is possible that he initially missed his bus and his Father either drove him to school, or drove him to catch up to the bus and saw that he boarded the bus.

A report from the school described him as out of it and, for all appearances, more than simply tired. I was told it looked unusual, as though he may have had some drug or had been partying especially hard the night before. I am unsure if this info is confirmed, or has been retained by the authorities, or if steps were taken to cover it up.

I'd like to know the truth of it, frankly. If it is true, it absolutely contradicts Joran's statement in his recent interview that he wasn't drunk, or somehow worse that night.

Comments

[shonane]

A report from the school described him as out of it and, for all appearances, more than simply tired. I was told it looked unusual, as though he may have had some drug or had been partying especially hard the night before. I am unsure if this info is confirmed, or has been retained by the authorities, or if steps were taken to cover it up.

Dan
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If he didn't get home until after 2:00 , maybe later, and he had to get up before 6 for school, them max sleep he got would have been about 3 1/2 hours. With so little sleep he probably did look out of it.

[lurking]

Can't wait to see the theory about what happened.

I'm guessing these last two posts are building up to it. Still can't figure out what it would be.

[wreck]

You are certainly playing both sides the last few days,Dan. I like that.
The whole school thing is strange. If indeed Joran was out until 3am on Sunday night and his big story from the interview was that he was "concerned about school" the next day -- why was he out AGAIN Monday night until 3am? To top it off -- this was finals week. Is there video confirmation Joran was really at the casino at 3am when Paulus summoned him home?

[RstJ]

Not sure what your source is trying to say. Reynolds is not merely guessing, he's positive who it was because he'd seen Joran at the casino. Here's the relevant bit from the Post Herald (two papers had this same interview, done with two reporters present it appears):

http://www.postherald.com/me061005.shtml

"Bryan Reynolds, 18, one of 124 recent high school graduates who went to Aruba in late May, said some of his friends almost got into a fight with Joran Andreas Petrus Van Der Sloot and his friends.

The scuffle started after Van Der Sloot, a Dutch suspect arrested at his upper-class home in Oranjestad, Aruba, Thursday morning, had been talking to 18-year-old Holloway at a bar where she and classmates hung out during the five-day trip, Reynolds said.

"There was almost a fight between my friend and him," said Reynolds, who was sitting in his car in the parking lot of Mountain Brook Community Church on Thursday after attending a noon prayer service with his classmates and others. "I had to break them up. That's when I got a good look at them."

Reynolds is very clearly refering to Joran, not Deepak, and he knows who Joran is because he'd seen him before. And the cause of the fight appears to be because Joran was talking to Natalee at the bar (note: Reynolds is never quoted saying this exactly, but the article says he said it) Since we have no indication Joran was at CnCs with Deepak and Satish any night other than Sun, nor that he was talking to Natalee there on any other night, the conclusion is the fight happened *that same night.* This is very consistent with Joran claiming someone was yelling at Natalee to get out of the car "now."

This was never followed up by any cable source, and Reynolds was never heard from again. In fact, he shouldn't have even been talking to reporters that time, but either he didn't get the message at the June 10 meeting (at a church, Marcia Twitty's meeting) to not talk to the press, or he deliberately ignored it. Because everybody else the reporters tried to talk to would not say anything at all, they even refused to give their names!

I don't think Reynolds was supposed to talk. And I don't understand your source's revisionism on a story that is very clearly documented.

RstJ

[edward]

I wonder if he was in shock...
What about the boy from the early interview who said he begged her to get out of the car..what was his name?

[VC]

Dan, I am certain he looked tired the next day. A couple of hours sleep??

I dont think that has anything to do with being drunk.

Would be shocked if he didnt look exhausted. He may have been with natalee and had some fun, but i truly doubt it was a regular thing for a school night. He DID sneak out of the house, therefore im guessing that like any teen, being out til all hours wasnt the norm.

I used to do the same 25 years ago :) , no boy went missing the next day. However the chance of getting lucky with a girl he was attracted to (im thinking ruth here) would get him to C and Cs. That he hooked up with Natalee and was out late enough to show it the next day isnt a surprise.

What I want to know is what ruth felt. She was interested enought to have his phone number, i wonder how she felt when natalee made a flirtatious move (the dance and jello shot).

Not suggesting ruth had anything to do with the disappearance, but im wondering if she had something to do with statements regarding Joran. A woman scorned can be bitter. A female teen scorned can be worse.

Somehow I doubt she was to kind about him, simply due to his going off with natalee. Some of the supposed "facts" could well have originated iwth a pissed of girl.

Just thoughts

[Hobo]

As I recall from one of the earlier "reports" regarding the scuffling incident between Joran and one of the MB kids, it took place in a sandwich shop during the day (?). I think the idea was an attempt to connect Natalee with the incident, but it was one of those vague allusions.

[observer]

He was up all night on extasy..Just like he told me croes...

[bryan]

Of course, we are all speculating here because we didn't see Joran that day. But Dan's source seems to be saying it looks like Joran was beyond just acting tired.

[kevad]

Didn't Joran's mom and Melody both say Joran had no current girlfriend? In the interview he states as one of the several reason for giving the Holiday Inn lie was he did not want his girlfriend to know he went to the beach with Natalee. What girlfriend, the one he saw the night before at the Mall with another guy? This seems to be contradicted by other info. we thought to be correct.

[scott]

Joran was driven to school the next morning by the father. He
also slept on the floor of some classroom ? at his school the
day after Natalee went missing. Articles posted said he was out of it when he slept on the classroom floor.

[hardyandtiny]

I was up all night and went to work on ten minutes of sleep the other day, and I looked fine - was just tired. Joran was probably on drugs or drunk.

[kim]

Didn't Joran's mom and Melody both say Joran had no current girlfriend? In the interview he states as one of the several reason for giving the Holiday Inn lie was he did not want his girlfriend to know he went to the beach with Natalee. What girlfriend, the one he saw the night before at the Mall with another guy? This seems to be contradicted by other info. we thought to be correct.

Posted by: kevad | Saturday, February 25, 2006 at 03:03 AM

anita did say that joran did not have a girlfriend.

[Muirnin]

I used to go to class, work, party......go back to work. I recall having a half hour to get home, shower and be to work by 6 AM.

Have you all forgotten? You can do shit like that when you are that young. You can lose a night's sleep if desired, maybe even 2 nights sleep.

[Muirnin]

Didn't Joran's mom and Melody both say Joran had no current girlfriend? In the interview he states as one of the several reason for giving the Holiday Inn lie was he did not want his girlfriend to know he went to the beach with Natalee. What girlfriend, the one he saw the night before at the Mall with another guy? This seems to be contradicted by other info. we thought to be correct.

Posted by: kevad | Saturday, February 25, 2006 at 03:03 AM

anita did say that joran did not have a girlfriend.

Posted by: kim | Saturday, February 25, 2006 at 03:34 AM

So, he just thought he'd have two innocent black guys locked up instead of his girlfriend finding out?? How Noble!

Geeze, that must have taken so much pressure off him! His little girlfriend wouldn't find out he was screwing around, but he'd have to live with the fact two innocent men were locked up because of him!

IMO, there never was a girlfriend......

[COLUMBO]

Perhaps he made the school bus, perhaps he missed it, perhaps his father drove him to school....or was it Deepak....or maybe Satish? Or, maybe he walked.....

[tin-cup]

as I said, interiogate the alabama wilderness chickens and make them talk this time!!! they know alot more than they are telling.

[Arespe']

Would Joran have graduated if he had missed finals because of being in jail on suspicion. Was this why they ALE waited TEN days? They didn't wait ten days to arrest the two security guards.

[tin-cup]

they call them sandjiggits down there and nobody much cares

[Heli Pilot]

I think you're starting to go HYSCIENCE here Dan. You're about two keyboard taps from jumping the shark completely.

Give the story a two week rest unless something really breaks. To me this seems like a lot of groping and over-analyzing. Sure we're all desperate to know WTF happened, we all want more info - but let's not look for it in between the lines tha are in between the lines.

Enough already......

My hostfile entry for HYSCIENCE goes something like this:

127.0.0.1 hyscience.com

I don't need to add riehlworld to the list of koolaid drinkers in the host file do I?

[Dan]

I don't need to add riehlworld to the list of koolaid drinkers in the host file do I?

What you can do is understand that the information I have posted is the result of multiple conversations with different sources. The news report about the fight you are referring to is precisely the one I am talking about. It was wrong. Go read all the clips, you'll see it was the night before - and it wasnt Joran. As for the incident with Deepak, I talked to people who were there. If you have better sources, let's hear it. That goes for the info of Joran in school the next day, too.

Now people may change their story for one reason or another. But when I state something as fact it is because I have been told it from someone in a position to know - not read it in one of the many conflicting news stories, or read it on some message board.

[RstJ]

"The news report about the fight you are referring to is precisely the one I am talking about. It was wrong."

How can it possibly be wrong? It consists of direct quotations from someone who was there! For it to be wrong either:

a) Reynolds has to be lying
b) He doesn't know what he's talking about
c) The reporters (both, really) are misquoting him

I don't think so. And Reynolds isn't hiding behind anonymity either. Your source was there? How can they have been there when Reynolds doesn't even specify which night he's refering to? We're supposed to believe there was another tall Dutch teenager interested in Natalee, hitting on her at CnCs, who just happens to have had his friends along and, apparently, is such a dead ringer for Joran that nobody challenged that news report for over a month, that is, until that report about the toothbrush DNA came out in late July. Suddenly this "tall Dutch boy who isn't Joran" started appearing everywhere that Joran had been.

"But when I state something as fact it is because I have been told it from someone in a position to know"

That's called hearsay and for very good reasons is not admissable in court. Not that this is court, but "he said that he saw this happen" is inherently weaker than "I saw this happen." When I weigh a named source from a newspaper story vs. the anonymous source of a blogger, it's no contest--the newspaper wins every time. Sorry, not a dig at your blog, but if your guy wants credibility, then he or she needs to come out and tell their story, not hide behind the mask of anonymity, a position from which they can claim pretty much anything with no fear of being publicly contradicted.

There are quite a few major league MSM reporters who would kill their own grandmothers for an interview with students who were with Natalee Holloway on her trip. This is your chance to totally scoop them. But if your source won't go on record, even eight months after the facts, then I think we have a legitimate reason to wonder why not, and to wonder if they aren't simply passing along rumor, rather than fact.

RstJ

[boywonder]

Hey Dan...heres another riddle for you and since you had contact with Joran..or was it Paulas on Joran's computer? When exactly did Paulus find out he hadnt got the job as a judge? When did Joran learn this news? When did Anita find out? When did Karen Janssen and Paulus's co workers find out? Most important UNDER REPORTED peice of evidence....Paulus at the HI casino....

[berry]

These descriptions are subjective. Sometimes people look exhausted/hung over/sick/depressed to some and not really too bad to others.

[nova]

Anyone who drinks Ron Rico 151 proof rum is going to feel it the next day. In the interview he said that is the last drink he and Natalee had to drink at the bar. And that doesnt count all the other drinks they had before. If you drink Ron Rico 151 Proof Rum you will feel no matter how young you are. It is called 151 but I think is 77 per cent alcohol. I believe that is what they said in the interview. Its strong stuff. You would be VERY drunk if you drank that stuff.

[xxx]

Of course it was regular for school night.

He was out the very same next night, wasn't he?

[Saigon]

Keep in mind that he's a young guy, 6'5", solid build, tight buttocks, toned arms, massive quads.........anyway, when you're young like that with his size, I'm sure you can take a lot of punishment partying and function early the next day.

[xxx]

I know I could at that age:)

[strayze]

Regarding memory problems of Joran, and its changing nature: In a live interview with MSM, most people are anxious, though by now with live interview #4, there should be less. It's impossible to remember the same way each time on details in anxiety-producing questioning. Also memory changes over time as the brain massages the information. Any investigator knows this timing element. However, when there are major changes in memory, something else may be happening, that Joran himself may be unaware of. Heavy drinking can bring on memory impairment and blackout periods, even in young people. It's not correct to rate Joran according to one's own experience with drinking. Joran may fall in the 10% of population who is alcoholic brought about by his genetic disposition. It's not possible to retrieve memories lost to blackout drinking. He may remember portions, but not other portions. This is very frightening to a young person who doesn't understand it and has never related it to occuring while drinking. So in a tough interview, the only coping mechanism is to fill in the blanks of what most likely happened. For example, Joran may not know when or where he kicked off his shoes. He may not remember his previous explantions on such major things as how he got home, or, what he confabulated on this topic in previous questionings. One wonders if he self medicated with alcohol or a diazepam-type (of the Valium family) drug for the purpose of the most recent interview. One wonders what happened during his prison experience: was beer available to him?; could the parents or other visitors supply it or other diazepams, etc?. Even being cold sober cannot bring back alcohol-impaired memories.
His wiped out behavior the next day indicates a bad hangover, (alcohol withdrawel syndrome) which alcohol or a diazepam would alleviate. (That's why diazepam drugs tapered downward are used in detox programs- - to prevent seizures, sweats, delerium tremens, etc.) Even without the symptoms of seizures or DTs upon alcohol withdrawel, memories can be badly impaired and irretreivable forever. Joran has fallen into a pattern of hard drinking at a young age. He may be the 1 in 10 who is alcoholic. It's known that blackouts and other memory impairment can occur when an afflicted person at a young age takes their first drink, so it's not necessarily due to a long history of drinking. The latter speaks more to the addiction to alcohol: being unable to moderate drinking.

There's another aspect to be considered of impaired memory unrelated to drinking but related in certain people in response to traumatic events. I will not take up space on this one here.

[xxx]

But Joran says he wasn't very drunk. If the truth is he can barely remember, why not say it?

Being extremely drunk doesn't account for giving 3 separate instances of how he got home, he's not going to think he might have walked several miles home if he got a ride...he might get confused about who gave him a ride,but he isn't going to say ride and/or walk unless he was in a blackout and he says he was not that drunk.

[Robin Tyra]

So another guy was groping Natalee? Still she continued dancing on the bar and ordering the bartenders to do belly shots on her?

And you're right xxx. Being drunk DOESN'T excuse behavior, does it?

[xxx]

Robin,

You are a sick and twisted individual. This is not the 16th century Puritan times when women can't dance or flirt or behave in a sexual manner.

Doing a jello shot isnt' groping you fool.

[TYLER]

This is not the 16th century Puritan times when women can't dance or flirt or behave in a sexual manner.

Exactly and this supports the idea that perhaps Natalee's sexual contact with Joran was consensual. Doesnt tarnish Natalee's character , we all have been thru it.

[kaycee77025]

Dan, what did you say you would do about name calling?

"Robin,

You are a sick and twisted individual. This is not the 16th century Puritan times when women can't dance or flirt or behave in a sexual manner.

Doing a jello shot isnt' groping you fool.

Posted by: xxx | Saturday, February 25, 2006 at 10:24 AM"

[xxx]

Awe, what's the matter, do you want me to be banned?

What about Robin calling Natalee a desperate stripper and saying she was dressed like a hooker?

Doesn't that count as name calling, sick and twisted?

Or is it okay to call a missing girl names because she is never going to come back and sue for slander?

[strayze]

However Joran states his (drunken) state, the declarations are likely to be unreliable. First, he's protecting his image with family and friends. Secondly if he has alcohol addiction, he's going to minimize his reports of drinking. This behavior is classic. He's already given glimpses as to what he considers drunk to be. People who believe they are functional (not drunk) can have memory impairment including periods of blackouts during their drinking. One certainly does not have to be a staggering obnoxious drunk to have blackouts. A blackout is totally different from being unconscious due to alcohol toxicity. It is normal functioning during the course of drinking. It's not binge drinking, but can occur there too.

As an example, that's why it is possible to catch a plane to a far off location in a blackout, and be totally surprized how that happened. In their alcoholic amnesia state they talk as normal persons to fellow travelers, etc. They boarded the plane with no difficulty, and caused no problems as a passenger. For alcoholic businesspeople who travel a lot, this scenerio happens. It's quite a shock to come to the realization that you are not where you want to be.

It's very difficult for an alcoholic to rely upon their memories.

[jackson80]

how does your theory account for Paulus giving Deepak lawyer advice?

[truthinplainsight]

jackson80 -

Go one step further...who is paying for the Kalpoe attornies?

Did we ever settle that Julia thing yesterday? :)

TIPS

[strayze]

jackson 80,

You are right, I'm talking about the scenerio of Joran's mental state, which none of us can truly know. We can only observe behaviors and compare with previous ones. I'm relating to the known and documented changing memories of Joran displayed in his various declarations. There are some striking examples of memory impairment, e.g. how he got home. Of course we are assuming that he went home from the beach only once. His shoe story seems very odd, and indeed opened up skeptacism as to his early memory of getting home by walking there. He may very well have a memory impairment problem unrelated to lying, but to alcohol, or to possibly other causes. I wonder if he's ever had any neurocognitive testing, something an upper middle class kid might have.

The most logical place to look for "lost time", if it exists, is that caused by alcohol for him.

There are other possibilities. His mother has mentioned that he consulted with a psychiatrist or psychologist. These people may not pick up alcoholism, but they could pick up cognitive problems.

[xxx]

Sorry, I think his "memory problem" is a result of lying, not of any alcohol induced brain function issues.

The kid does not exhibit any empathy or any interest in what became of Natalee. In fact, the only scenarios that the 3 suspects offered were that she hooked up with another local, was in a crack house or ran away.

Logically, if you really left a drunk girl at the beach the two most obvious ideas of what happened to her would be she drowned or someone else accosted her on the beach. NOT she got up, went to the HI and hooked up with another local, or got up, somehow found a crack house and was there or ran away leaving no clues.

Every statement they have made about Natalee betrays not only that they did view her as less than human but betrays a complete disinterest in anything to do with what really happened to her, ALL they have to say is that everything that occured which they admit to was at her insistance, each of the 3 boys are just observers, reacting to Natalee's every whim...she is the one who makes things happen not them.

That tells me they are mentally and emotionally distancing themselves from what really happened because they are in denial and thus, the only way they can deal with what happened is that it was HER FAULT.

[wreck]

strayze, your analysis could be correct, but that is apparently NOT what is happening here. Joran is not just "filling in missing facts" because of memory loss. His story was PLANNED for 10 days with Deepak and Satish. He admits to this. He has only changed his story when some fact comes out that belies what he has said previously. The current "lie" is how he got home. He has not changed his story about this because of "memory loss."

[wreck]

No one will ever address this point, so here goes again.

Very many of the Joran supporters here think that Natalee's behavior that night had a direct affect on her fate that night. She was doing "belly shots" dancing lewdly, drunk, and out of control. She went willingly with the boys. Many here say the most likely scenario is that she was so messed-up that she probably drowned or OD'd.
In Joran's interview, he said she was in complete control and was acting just fine.
Either all of you are WRONG about her condition or Joran is lying yet again. You can't have it both ways.

[Robin Tyra]

Sorry, I think his "memory problem" is a result of lying, not of any alcohol induced brain function issues.

The kid does not exhibit any empathy or any interest in what became of Natalee. In fact, the only scenarios that the 3 suspects offered were that she hooked up with another local, was in a crack house or ran away.

Logically, if you really left a drunk girl at the beach the two most obvious ideas of what happened to her would be she drowned or someone else accosted her on the beach. NOT she got up, went to the HI and hooked up with another local, or got up, somehow found a crack house and was there or ran away leaving no clues.

Every statement they have made about Natalee betrays not only that they did view her as less than human but betrays a complete disinterest in anything to do with what really happened to her, ALL they have to say is that everything that occured which they admit to was at her insistance, each of the 3 boys are just observers, reacting to Natalee's every whim...she is the one who makes things happen not them.

That tells me they are mentally and emotionally distancing themselves from what really happened because they are in denial and thus, the only way they can deal with what happened is that it was HER FAULT.

Posted by: xxx | Saturday, February 25, 2006 at 12:37 PM

Hmmm, seems to me that you are in fact practicing a form of medicine in your analysis, xxx.

Are you aware that doing so might open you up to charges of malpractice? I bet you didn't know that non-licensed laypeople who practice medicine can and often are found guilty of medical malpractice.

Are are you a certified physician? If so--I apologize.

[Robin Tyra]

Robin,

You are a sick and twisted individual. This is not the 16th century Puritan times when women can't dance or flirt or behave in a sexual manner.

Doing a jello shot isnt' groping you fool.

Posted by: xxx | Saturday, February 25, 2006 at 10:24 AM

Namecalling.

[xxx]

Robin,

You said Natalee was dressed like a hooker.

You said she was acting like a desperate stripper.

Is this not name calling?

And please, spare me with the idea that giving my opinion on Joran's mental state is a diagnosis...all you do is show your complete ignorance of the law okay, it simply makes it clear that you have no credibility.

[Robin Tyra]

Virgin = bartop dancer, heavy drinker, lewd dancer?

Kidnapped = Waving friends off who try to get you out of car? Willingly if not insistent in leaving with three strangers?

Sexually assaulted = Groping at a stranger? The stranger IS A MINOR WHEN YOU ARE IN FACT VERY CLOSE TO 19 YEARS OF AGE?

What's wrong with this picture?

[Robin Tyra]

One more thought: Since when is it the responsibility of minors to tend to and babysit drunken adults? Isn't that the basis of the lawsuit?

[strayze]

wreck,

Having the character flaws you mention, does not preclude alcoholic memory problems. Alcoholics are well known to be self-centered, defensive people without empathy. This behavior is addressed in the long term treatment programs. There can be deliberate lying as well as an amnesia problem. Some of his new memories spring up unexpectedly to damage his credibility (not that he ever had much). He's in a real bind, if he has no memory of portions of that evening. He does himself in everytime he talks. It's entirely possible that the entire evening's events are fabricated as there are only witnesses for the time they left the bar. Certainly, there are additional witnesses. This is not counting the Kalpoes, who deny taking him home through their lawyer.

Unfortunately memory problems or lying does not provide solid evidence to go on to solve this case. It only makes the matter more difficult for the Van der Sloots, and the Holloway-Twittys, and causes yet more public attention to the families. It is the publicity the VDSs dislike so much. Had there been cooperation with the Aruban LE at first, this would not have to be.

[xxx]

Do you even know anything about C&Cs? Such as that body shots and dancing on the stage and bar are totally normal. She wasn't at Ruth Chris Steakhouse dancing on the table.

I am sorry that you happen to be one of those people who believe that any sexual activity by a young woman means she is not respectable. I am sorry that you appear to think a young girl who flirts, dances with her other friends, drinks on vacation and does body shots and generally enjoys herself cannot be a virgin.

The minor/adult issue is frankly one of the stupidest and most disgusting lines from the pro Joran camp since the age of consent is 16, period end of discussion. As far as groping a stranger, wasn't the stranger groping her?

I am sorry you cannot seem to comprehend the idea that a person can willingly leave or be with someone or a group of people and then THINGS CHANGE, and if they want to leave or are prevented from doing so, that becomes the crime of false imprisonment.

PS: Joran says she told him she was a virgin, so is that another lie by Joran? Oops.

I feel very sorry for you Robin that you have such a twisted and hateful view of your own sex. There is really nothing more to say. A person who would call a missing teenage girl a hooker and a stripper is beneath contempt.

[wreck]

Unfortunately memory problems or lying does not provide solid evidence to go on to solve this case. It only makes the matter more difficult for the Van der Sloots, and the Holloway-Twittys, and causes yet more public attention to the families. It is the publicity the VDSs dislike so much. Had there been cooperation with the Aruban LE at first, this would not have to be.

Posted by: strayze | Saturday, February 25, 2006 at 01:12 PM
You do not address the fact that memory loss or not -- the boys admittedly met every day for 10 days to discuss their story. Joran's lies are not just filling in details he can't remember. Alcoholism does not equal CHANGING MAJOR stories 3 times. Alcoholism does NOT make the Kalpoes collude with him.
Do you really think this 17 year old "sporter" is at such an advanced state of alcoholism that he can't function? He is a good student (reportedly.)