Natalee Holloway - Conflicts In FBI Reports

Fox is reporting that one of the reasons Aruban authorities will be traveling to Mountain Brook, Alabama, is too clear up possible conflicts in what different MB students told the FBI during previous interviews. They didn't mention what those inconsistencies might be.

Aruban police may be in Alabama as early as Monday to interview Mountain Brook High School graduates who were with Natalee Holloway when she disappeared in Aruba.

FBI spokesman Raymond Zicarelli said Saturday that Aruban officials told his office they plan to arrive this week.

"The Aruban authorities along with the FBI will be interviewing some of the individuals on the trip," he said.

Additionally, it seems strange that as per the article above the ALE had to wait so long to question the students given that the case has such high visibility and the request was sent through the State Department some time ago. It also apprears as though the process may have been expedited by Rep. Spencer Bachus at some point after having met with, I believe, Dutch and Aruban authorities in Washington, DC.

The Aruban public prosecutor's office petitioned the State Department last fall for permission to speak with the students, and last month officials asked Rep. Spencer Bachus to expedite the process.

Comments

[Also_Dutch]

I wonder why Beth was so adamant in letting Natalee go to Aruba in the first place, especially when Dave was against it....There's got to be more to it than just winning out over Dave..IMHO. It stinks of a plan, possibly a plan that went wrong at the last minute, because Natalee was fed up with being used by her family. I still believe Beth knows where Natalee is alive. So many boats present, so many visitors at the soul festival and Natalee hooked up with someone there.

Posted by: a..incanada | Wednesday, January 25, 2006 at 11:55 AM

Well, in defense of Beth (did I actually say that?): natalee was living with Beth. Beth knew how much Natalee wanted to go on the trip. Beth knew how hard Natalee had worked to earn money for the trip and graduating from High School. Beth is the one who heard the most "please, please, pretty please, all the other kids are going"- routine (Teens perform that routine all over the world!). Dave was miles away and could have nothing to say in that matter anyway.

What bothers me most is that Beth from the beginning started a family-run investigation. Even before she had to deal with ALE! The other thing that bothers me is that Beth is refusing to look at other scenarios, she just wants J2K to be the guilty party. Has she appointed J2K as her scapegoats??

[a..incanada]

Heli, you're saying only 21 females will be re-interviewed?
This is total nonsense! Are the ALE only looking at the girls whom they feel will readily give false witness against J2K then? Witchhunting and on a one way track when Dompig himself said they were open to all avenues? Enough of the BS already! Many of those boys need to be questioned as well. The boys in the cab, heatedly arguing with Natalee? Twitty boys? Brian Reynolds? Many more! Some of the chaperones for sure. From those early photos on the Net with some young male chaperones and some of the girls, well they just looked TOO cozy for a student/chaperone relationship! Is this being set up to fail, again?
It seems that Dompig is on a one way track after all, and it seems that early posters could be right, that the ALE is corrupt!!

[COLUMBO]

What bothers me most is that Beth from the beginning started a family-run investigation. Even before she had to deal with ALE!

First words to Dave by A.L.E. "How much money do you have?"

[a..incanada]

Also_Dutch, I hear you. I just thought that if there was joint custody, Dave should have had some say, even though Beth heard the pleas. I didn't think Beth was at home that much to hear anything though. (Slap me, I'm being facetious.)Possibly J2K walked into a trap? Initially Beth was on a trail of a blue-eyed, blond fellow, it has been said. There's been so many things said though, but if she targeted the wrong individual, I don't think she could change gears as it would have been too noticeable. Just as Joran said, they were at the wrong place at the wrong time and probably with the wrong people.

[Skye]

a..incanada wrote, "I wonder why Beth was so adamant in letting Natalee go to Aruba in the first place, "........

How do you know that she was? The senior trip to Aruba "was" a MB tradition. The ads for Aruba claim the island to be a crime free tourist paradise. Beth could not have known that Natalee would be a target to the local sociopath.

[Justice4ALL]

Yes lets blame the victim, just remember statics state we will all be a victim of some crime at one time or another. So if you can stand to be blamed as a victim so be it.

Big deal if Natalee was drinking and the MB girls covered it up, how would that have changed the way this investigation went, in so far as the ALE told Dave Holloway go have a drink, she'll show up on ladies night, they already assumed she was drunk.

My prediction is they will re-arrest based on tesitmonty that Natalee was drunk and could not consent. That's all this invesitgation is about to regussy the prosecutor.

My opinion

CHoo Chooo

[c]

Beth could not have known that Natalee would be a target to the local sociopath.

Posted by: Skye | Wednesday, January 25, 2006 at 01:13 PM

do u have know for sure that Natalee was targeted by local sociapath ?

[COLUMBO]

I believe that the change is that some girls saw Natalee outside C&C's when she seemingly forgot where she was and headed back inside...where she was met by Deepak who escorted her out holding her arm....A.L.E. will use this testimony to establish a pattern of behavior to build a case against a suspect or suspects who regularly partake in these activities

[TuxedoJunction]

~snip~ And in answer to a previous questions, No ... Bryan Reynolds is not kin to Natalee. ~snip~
Posted by: MBMom2 | Wednesday, January 25, 2006 at 03:38 AM
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Thanks for the confirmation, I thought I had heard that somewhere, but wasn't sure.
Also, thanks to all here and the underground board for relaying the MSM information throughout the day..I am way off in HST and I miss ALOT of daily news coverage.
Aloha kakou!

[a..incanada]

There's been seven trips over 7 spring breaks to Aruba from MB groups, right? Jug was previously a chaperone on one of those trips right? Did he close his eyes to the fact that these kids could drink all day long, included in the price of the trip? There have always been mentions of drugs being available, right? This has nothing to do with keeping the kids in a bubble to protect them!
This has everything to do with poor choices of the parents, esp when they have seen/known before what happens there. Jug and Beth naive, believing that this is a safe trip, when booze and drugs is known to flourish?? Give me a break! The responsibility is theirs for allowing a headstrong kid into such an environment of booze and drugs.
From reading all the latest news, it seems this country has the sociopaths.

[roy]

Posted by: Idispisecreeps | Wednesday, January 25, 2006 at 02:58 AM

Creep, although you're not worth a reaction...
I promise I'll keep quiet if you can find one post from me bashing Natalee or Beth.
Keep searching ....

[shonane]

wonder why Beth was so adamant in letting Natalee go to Aruba in the first place, especially when Dave was against it....There's got to be more to it than just winning out over Dave..IMHO. It stinks of a plan, possibly a plan that went wrong at the last minute,

Posted by: a..incanada
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I don't think this line of reasoning is defendable to support a plot. You must not have raised a teen.

The Aruba trip was a graduation tradition for some in her high school and her step brother had gone previously.

Most high school have groups that get together and do something like this. In my high school, it was a group trip to Europe - I didn't go because my parents could not afford it, had a choice of a newer car for college or the trip to Europe and I took the car. If they could have afforded it, they would have let me go as I was a responsible, rule compliant type at that age, and there were good chaperones.

Some in my son's class took a high school graduation trip to Cancun. I did not let him go because: 1) I guessed he was high risk for getting drunk and wild partying and getting into trouble 2) money, told him he had to pay for it and he never saved enough money. Problem solved.

For spring break, teens where I live all want to go to the local Florida beaches for a week. My son went every year for years, always (until age 18) with an adult chaperon stays in same hotel - bless the volunteer for this as I did it once and it is WORK.) I felt comfortable with this because it is close driving distance and he is accustomed to going there all summer anyway. Even then, he and his friends, who boldly snuck around the watchful eyes of the chaperone and aquired a cooler of beer in spite of law enforcement walking all over checking for this, got an underage alcohol possession charge at 17 yrs - part of the reason I oppposed him going to Cancun.

Teens put a lot of pressure on their parents to participate in these events. The trips can be good experiences for them too. Natalee's parents had every reason to believe that Natalee would be responsible and safe based on past experience. Since she saved the money for the trip, this was just more evidence of her readiness to handle the trip.

I don't think a theory of a pre planned disappearance is defendable.

[Dixie]

Regarding this post: Teen Confesses To Murder And Rape

POSTED: 6:41 pm CST January 23, 2006
UPDATED: 7:39 pm CST January 23, 2006

BIRMINGHAM, Ala. -- According to the FBI and Aruban investigators 19 year old Zachary Kristoffer of Birmingham confessed just hours before being interviewed to the murder and rape of Mountain Brook teenager Natalee Holloway.

Copyright 2006 by NBC13.com. The Associated Press contributed to this report. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

http://www.nbc13.com/news/62945323/detail.html

Posted by: Susan S | Tuesday, January 24, 2006 at 07:43 PM

This is NOT correct nor legitmate. Below you will find the reply I received from the B'ham News regarding the authenticity of this post.
Dixie
PS,,Susan S (who posted this nonsense) has NO idea what she is talking about and is just a troll that wants to get everyone stirred up. Pay her NO MIND whatsoever. She isnt worth your time.
____________________________________________________From the B'ham News Web Editor

We did not publish this story on our website. The link that is listed would go to a web item used last month and does not match the time stamp posted in the story.
I was the editor on duty the night it was supposedly posted.

It appears that someone has taken great lengths to produce a hoax. Which is unfortunate for those who have been following this story and wish to see it come to a resolution.

If you could give me the site where you got this information from I would appreciated it so that I can work on dispelling this hoax.

Thanks,
Robin Bird
Web Editor

[Shonane]

a..incanada - you comments about the known drinking that would occur and the risks associated are an important exception to the comments I just made that "Natalee's parents had every reason to believe she would be safe." That is, if they had not approved of her drinking there.

It was poor judgment, I think, for this group to be allowed to have Holiday Inn arm bands for unlimited drinking. If one assumes that these youth had been following the laws in the US which would prohibit them drinking alcohol until age 21, then they would have no tolerance or experience with alcohol and it would be extremely dangerous for them to drink alcohol while in a foreign country with a free flowing unlimited alcohol allowance. Of course, I am guessing that most of these youth were already drinking illegally in the US and did have some experience and tolerance.

For an 18 yr old, I would have had to have a "no booze" policy to go with permission to go on the trip. Of course, my own kid would never have complied with that - probably would have gotten a drink within hours after arrival to celebrate and for the novelty of this just because he could - but I knew that. And that's why he would never have gone.

But if Natalee was a compliant type , and her parents talked to her about only trying a drink or two with emphasis on not getting drunk, then they would never have expected her to be drinking excessively and all day as it was reported by some of the tourists and hotel workers there.

[ChinbeardXIV]

My prediction is they will re-arrest based on tesitmonty that Natalee was drunk and could not consent.

Posted by: Justice4ALL | Wednesday, January 25, 2006 at 01:32 PM

J4A, I can't see your prediction coming true simply because a few brew-swilling teens change their story (or not) about whether NH was blasted, lightly snookered, or barely drinking. Testimonty? Let's hope they don't give the full testimonty, eh? (Aren't typos great?)

I think this is just another attempt to keep a long-dead case afloat.

[a..incanada]

Shonane, if we are to believe that Natalee was a compliant type of person, then the boys on the trip that were interviewed told outright lies. If what they said was true, then Beth should have known better than to allow such a free booze atmosphere.
There have been so many lies from Beth and Jug and the media spin, it would be difficult to spot the truth if it hit us smack in the face.
My considering there could have been a plot is little really for what these people have done to the families in Aruba, without any concrete evidence whatsoever. There's been so many lies and theories, it has become disgusting already, and I keep wanting to get away from the speculating, etc but I'm hooked.

Sweetie
Somewhere it was said that Beth defiantly let Natalee go against Daves' wishes, very early on in the investigation.
You don't know Joran so how do you get off calling him a sociopath? Kool aid anyone? That "sociopath" comes from HMI, who knew Natalee, and how headstrong she could be. They were fully aware what happens on those trips, and this trip included "all the booze you can drink all day". No one but a wreckless mother would allow a kid a trip like that especially a girl who "didn't drink", or do any of the things teens normally do at that age, as per Beth herself. Remember all the propaganda she blasted on the news day and night?

[Sweetie]

a..incanada wrote, "I wonder why Beth was so adamant in letting Natalee go to Aruba in the first place, "........

How do you know that she was? The senior trip to Aruba "was" a MB tradition. The ads for Aruba claim the island to be a crime free tourist paradise. Beth could not have known that Natalee would be a target to the local sociopath.

We can't put our kids in a bubble their entire life for fear of something bad happening to them. We can teach them right from wrong and do our best to bring them into a happy, healthy adulthood. No, she could not have known that would happen, just like the mother whose child goes to ride his bike to his friends house and is killed by the car that didn't even see him there. Sad, tragic indeed.

[RstJ]

Anybody catch Jug's little slip of the tongue tonight on Greta? "Arrest the students" er, uh.

Those kids have been anything but cooperative and their statements probably don't match up very well. Something happened as she was leaving that bar. Something that Beth and Marcia and their pre-programmed RoboKids do not want anyone to know.

RstJ

[Myth]

Internet Hoaxter Posts News Of Confession In Holloway Case

POSTED: 1:24 pm CST January 25, 2006
UPDATED: 4:56 pm CST January 25, 2006

BIRMINGHAM, Ala. -- False information on an Internet blog has caused a stir among those following the Natalee Holloway case.

E-mails were sent to NBC 13 asking for confirmation of information posted on another site's Internet blog about the Natalee Holloway case.

The false information was posted on a blog and claimed it came from the NBC 13's Web site. The false information alleged that a teen had confessed to the murder of Natalee Holloway.

NBC 13 has not reported this information and is working toward dispelling the hoax.

[kim]

Posted by: Myth | Wednesday, January 25, 2006 at 11:51 PM

was checking back on the hoax, thanks myth.

[Justice4All]

Posted by: ChinbeardXIV | Wednesday, January 25, 2006 at 05:05 PM

Thank you for taking the time to proof read my post.

Being superior in mind must be great huh?

[c]

Posted by: DONOTBELIEVETHISSITE | Thursday, January 26, 2006 at 12:56 AM

no one asked u to come to this site. why don't u back to your monkey site, and spew all the garbage.

As far as sueing for slander:
The Twits should be the first one who should be sued.

[a..incanada]

SADONLOOKER, have you not noticed all the slanderous spew from thousands of monkeys and BFNs against Aruba ALE, J2K, and families, which was mainly started by Beth and Co.? There's so very little said against them, in comparison. Why are the Bethites on board doing more damage control than before?? Have some more Kool Aid, Beth flavored!! If it saddens you that much, perhaps you need to see a P. Doctor.

[ze]

This has turned into a war - people against people - when it should be about a missing person
I realise that there are MANY missing persons in this world and, personally, would like to help each and everyone of them
However, this is about Natalee Holloway
IMO Natalee Holloway did not make herself dissapear....To do this you need accomplices....this is why EVERYONE needs to be interviewed, AGAIN if required
We have been going on the fact that persons lied about the night of the dissapearance...it is most likely on BOTH sides there are lies and ommissions
Whichever view you take of this situation, ask yourself to try, for one minute, to understand why - the "other side of your view" would lie?
IE put yourself in a "supposed scenario" and THINK...could it be because....

[&anotherthng]

just a question, with so many theories out there, has it ever been considered that maybe the skankho that was licing Joran's face and is in many pics of the pimp crew, could have had enought of Joran messing around on her, she decided to "kick butt in an attempt to prove to Joran she was feed up with his pimp ways & somthing went very wrong. She may have not wanted to chance getting STD's from him. I just lurk and have never seen this scenario. Maybe it's something, maybe not....Please don't flame me, it's just something to throw out since we really don 't have facts....Thank you