Taylor Behl Chat Discussions With Mike Cino Released

These are the alleged logs of chat discussions between Taylor Behl and Mike Cino.

*Cino* (1:41:45 AM): oh
*Cino* (1:41:59 AM): then :- (
*Taylor* (1:42:40 AM): hi
*Cino* (1:42:45 AM): hi
*Taylor* (1:42:47 AM): read my profile
*Cino* (1:42:54 AM): I don't know why I'm bold right now
*Cino* (1:43:08 AM): wow
*Cino* (1:43:13 AM): what?
*Taylor* (1:43:50 AM): not in a happy mood
*Cino* (1:44:09 AM): what was that all about?
*Taylor* (1:45:42 AM): nothing really
*Cino* (1:45:52 AM): interesting
*Taylor* (1:46:07 AM): things just like that kinda sting
*Cino* (1:46:18 AM): I would imagine
*Cino* (1:46:36 AM): there wasn't really anything to provoke that?
*Taylor* (1:46:40 AM): even considering who it come from
*Taylor* (1:47:00 AM): apparently i annoy him
*Taylor* (1:47:11 AM): as does every one
*Cino* (1:49:43 AM): I don't know what to tell you

*Cino* (1:51:26 AM): are you going to be okay?
*Taylor* (1:53:58 AM): dont have much of a choice
*Taylor* (1:54:05 AM): dont lose sleep over me
*Cino* (1:54:47 AM): I won't lose any
*Cino* (1:55:15 AM): are you losing sleep over this?
*Taylor* (1:55:47 AM): probably
*Cino* (1:58:43 AM): don't worry about it so much
*Cino* (2:00:13 AM): I long ago came to a kind of realization that has helped me. It is that if people have good intentions for me, they most likely will not put me down. If they are trying to get me down, I don't give a shit about what they say.
*Taylor* (2:01:28 AM): lol
*Taylor* (2:01:39 AM): i dont it still stings
*Taylor* (2:02:07 AM): im gonna sleep
*Cino* (2:02:13 AM): okay, g'night
*Cino* (2:08:17 AM): call me if you need me
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Auto response from *Taylor* (2:08:18 AM): If its that vital call me...
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*Taylor* (1:09:02 PM): how are you this afternoon?
*Cino* (1:09:15 PM): okay
*Cino* (1:09:20 PM): a bit tired
*Cino* (1:09:47 PM): Ben's kids are here, and theydon't really have any kind of respectfor the sleeping of people
*Taylor* (1:10:18 PM): drown them
*Taylor* (1:10:54 PM): smother them
*Taylor* (1:11:01 PM): and love them
[--]
*Cino* (1:20:21 PM): are you doing any better?
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Auto response from *Taylor* (1:20:21 PM): If its that vital call me...
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*Taylor* (2:13:32 PM): yea i guess

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*Cino* (6:44:16 PM): your turn to think of a game
*Taylor* (6:44:56 PM): ummm
*Taylor* (6:44:59 PM): i know its called
*Taylor* (6:45:38 PM): im going to go eat
*Taylor* (6:45:44 PM): i love you
*Taylor* (6:45:55 PM): ttfn
*Cino* (6:46:10 PM): byebye

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*Taylor* (8:32:48 PM): id laugh but im too pissed off right now
*Taylor* (8:35:25 PM): ok well im going to go pout
*Cino* (8:35:43 PM): or you could stay here and pout
*Taylor* (8:35:45 PM): im not very good converstaion at the moment
*Taylor* (8:36:09 PM): im so angry
*Taylor* (8:36:25 PM): ever been so angry you want to cry?
*Taylor* (8:36:30 PM): thats where i am
[--]
*Cino* (8:36:48 PM): I have
*Taylor* (8:37:02 PM): doesnt work for me
*Cino* (8:37:13 PM): I have since kept emotion away from those who would harm it
*Taylor* (8:37:39 PM): yeah
*Taylor* (8:38:30 PM): ill keep that in mind
*Cino* (8:38:46 PM): That was the time I cursed out my stepdad
*Cino* (8:39:01 PM): the specific time I'm thinking
*Cino* (8:39:10 PM): since, I have also given up anger
*Cino* (8:39:16 PM): to some extent
*Taylor* (8:39:55 PM): well i dont exactly get angry im just pissed off i dont have the energy to get angry
*Taylor* (8:40:32 PM): form pissed i go to depressed...then i sleep and start the cycle all over again
*Cino* (8:40:44 PM): It's all about letting go . . . why would I care so much about what someone who wants to hurt, either emotionally or otherwise, thinks?
*Taylor* (8:43:16 PM): right ok
*Taylor* (8:43:32 PM): well i think im going to go do laundry or something
*Taylor* (8:43:39 PM): then go to bed
*Cino* (8:44:06 PM): some guy is out front getting on Ben about talking about beating his dog
*Taylor* (8:44:21 PM): fun
*Cino* (8:44:36 PM): yeah, he threatened Ben earlier
*Taylor* (8:44:44 PM): oh well
*Taylor* (8:46:06 PM): im going to go do laundry
*Taylor* (8:46:07 PM): ttfn
*Cino* (8:46:12 PM): okay, have fun
*Taylor* (8:46:21 PM): i will
*Taylor* signed off at 8:46:34 PM.

*Taylor* (9:17:26 PM): hey hey
*Cino* (9:18:45 PM): hola
*Cino* (9:18:53 PM): well, no one's dead yet
*Taylor* (9:19:02 PM): tahst good
*Cino* (9:20:51 PM): yah
*Cino* (9:20:55 PM): feeling any better?
*Taylor* (9:20:59 PM): no
*Cino* (9:22:32 PM): I don't know what to tell you
*Taylor* (9:22:39 PM): worse
*Cino* (9:22:54 PM): if it makes you feel any better, dolphins have prehensile penises
*Cino* (9:23:53 PM): no, no, I don't think that'll do any good right here
*Taylor* (9:24:19 PM): interesting fact tho
*Cino* (9:24:28 PM): it's been too long since I've seen you
*Taylor* (9:24:41 PM): i know
*Taylor* (9:25:29 PM): you should come see me
*Taylor* (9:26:05 PM): and everyone else here in vienna
*Cino* (9:26:15 PM): well, I'll probably be back next weekend
*Cino* (9:26:20 PM): assuming I can get the time off
*Taylor* (9:27:13 PM): you could come crash [--]s party on monday
*Taylor* (9:27:23 PM): although i dont know if ill be there
*Cino* (9:27:49 PM): I have to be at class Monday evening
*Taylor* (9:28:02 PM): pooh

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*Cino* (9:57:49 PM): hi
*Taylor* (9:57:54 PM): hi
*Taylor* (9:57:57 PM): how are you?
*Cino* (9:58:01 PM): okay
*Cino* (9:58:19 PM): making a stab at homework
*Cino* (9:58:30 PM): *stabbing motion at homework*
Taylor* (9:59:12 PM): lol
*Cino* (10:01:26 PM): how you?
*Taylor* (10:02:03 PM): bad
*Taylor* (10:02:05 PM): ill
*Cino* (10:02:12 PM): oh yahh?
*Taylor* (10:02:15 PM): i itch
*Cino* (10:02:21 PM): I was doing that a few days ago
*Cino* (10:02:28 PM): well, not the itching
*Taylor* (10:02:44 PM): i had an allergic reaction to anti biotics
*Cino* (10:02:53 PM): ah . . . ech
*Cino* (10:03:15 PM): well, mayhaps it's for the best . . . antibiotics are evil anway
*Taylor* (10:03:39 PM): yeah... now im on different ones
*Taylor* (10:03:53 PM): and i have red spots all over my body
*Taylor* (10:04:09 PM): and wiht my luck ill get a yeast infection
*Taylor* (10:04:12 PM): bah
*Cino* (10:04:58 PM): well . . . maybe . . . at least you can bake yourself some bread?
*Taylor* (10:05:08 PM): ewww
*Taylor* (10:05:17 PM): ill send you a slice
*Cino* (10:05:21 PM): no . . .
*Cino* (10:05:23 PM): that's okay
*Cino* (10:05:32 PM): I wouldn't want to take away from your profits
*Taylor* (10:05:44 PM): geee...thanks

Sometimes, I'll find something like this, or I'll see her number in my addresses, and be sad for a little bit. I've been pointedly leaving her number there, I don't know if I intend to delete it.

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Comments

[Rick]

Would have been nice if Cino had been more specific about what Taylor was so down about.

[ProudAmerican]

..I dont understand why they had to release this. why do we need to see this..I feel like I am reading someones personal mail.. Its very heartbreaking

[diane]

I have a thought on the pictures that the police released.I showed the pictures to my husband who has not been following the case and he seen the images as well.One of two things come to mind here it was an accident that the images appeared in the pictures or someone intentionaly inserted the images digitally.Criminals have been known to want to keep a souvenier of their crime.

[abigail]

It's hard to tell what Taylor was upset about, I don't see a date,(oh, but when I click on the link it is in 2003 it seems. I don't think Taylor and bf had met yet, and when Cino mentions Ben she does not "go off" like she's mad at him, or perhaps she was not the type to talk smack about someone.

[abigail]

I'm also not sure about the "quarry" thing that the unnamed witness mentioned in the Crime Library article. I thought that typically the water in a quarry is almost clear and blue/green in color with some cliffs around the edges and not so much brush and trees right on the water. DUNNO!

[cindi in pa]

Abigail, dunno myself lol. We do have some quarries near here me, that are pretty small, these are sand and gravel quarries. As a teen, I would go to a huge quarry in Frenchtown NJ that was converted into a swimming hole, complete with life guards. If I remember right the only way in, because of the steep walls of stone/slate, was to dive in. There were catfish also. Needless to say, I only did it once. Guessing it depends on what the quarry was used for. I do know however, they are pretty darn deep in places.

[mustymark]

Dan did you get Cino's permission before you took these off his LJ?

[Katie]

I have a thought on the pictures that the police released.I showed the pictures to my husband who has not been following the case and he seen the images as well.One of two things come to mind here it was an accident that the images appeared in the pictures or someone intentionaly inserted the images digitally.Criminals have been known to want to keep a souvenier of their crime.

Posted by: diane | Dec 1, 2005 7:45:44 PM

I must have missed something...are you talking about the pond pictures or were other pictures released that I missed?

[diane]

Katie,I was talking about the pond pictures.

[abigail]

Cindi,
I used to go to an abondoned one in Ohio and it was a beautiful blue/clear water unless you stirred up the silt by jumping off the 50 foot cliff or just by swimming around in it. Not at all like the picture of the mysterious "water" in the picture. My husband swam in a few in Danville as a kid and agrees that the "disruption" of anything in the water was light colored because quarries are basically a huge rock hole that is cut out. Not like a pond or lake with mud in it. If you scour the entire boundries of a quarry it's rock. It's just our experience and our opinion as of course we are not experts! :)

MM-If the discussions between Taylor and Cino are from LJ then I imagine it's public information and can be accessed by anyone hooked up to the internet.

[brent]

Dan did you get Cino's permission before you took these off his LJ?

What are you saying. Who cares if he got permission?

[abigail]

Diane,
Are you speaking of the "image"? If so, do you think that's a "double" exposure, or do you really think bf "planned" that? But it was an "accident" and he panicked! :) When the "clear" pictures were sent to me via email before they showed up here I did not see the "image", but then went back to the police copies and it is there--just have to look hard enough. CHILLS...

[effit12]

i still dont see anything. you only look for what someon else says they see. otherwise it looks like nothing.

[abigail]

I am a skeptic, and I saw it! Of course I took it and played with it on my own system. I think it may have been put there though, if you are talking of the "face". When I messed with it, I came up with a "block" around it that did not match the area around it. But I was just messing with it, so I don't know, but what I do know is that the "image" is in the pictures LE released, so I don't think it was messed with after they got a hold of it.

[cindi in pa]

Abigail, I agree with the rather clear water in a big quarry, my experience with the smaller, sand, stone quarries is, they are rather murky due to constant dredging. Have a feeling these pictures will be hard to identify a location from. Could be anywhere USA. If we consider all the traveling and moving BF has done, and the fact that he got some of his computers used, who knows. I do hope the LE finds what they are looking for.

[cindi in pa]

I saw the face also. I am also a skeptic on things like this,but the picure with the face, did freak me out. I had to stop looking.

[abigail]

Murky, but "dark"? I'm going to send you something.

[abigail]

Dan did you get Cino's permission before you took these off his LJ?

Posted by: mustymark | Dec 1, 2005 10:10:47 PM

Cino cleaned up his files and posted it for public view, it's all out there. Nobody busted in on his private email or converstation(s), no permission needed.

[abigail]

sorry! conversations, not converstations!

[truthbetold]

who the heck is cino and was the ben they were talking about ben fawley? he actually had his kids at his place? who would let children be with him??

[JWard]

re: Pond pictures released by police

It looks like a river to me. A flooded one. They're pretty dirty.

Did anyone else figure out that the DooWop Darlin' pictures were taken on Belle Isle?

http://www.virginiawind.com/virginia_travel/richmond_photos.asp

http://www.virginiawind.com/virginia_travel/images/richmond_n.jpg

[diane]

abigail, Yea at first I thought I was seeing things.I was sent photos also and in mine I still see the same images.Can you send me what you have.I am just guessing that it may have been a double exposure or like I said Ben may have left a clue.I don't know for sure as one would have to have the original's to be certain.I do believe however the place in the photo's are a place that Fawley is familiar with. Look where he dumped Taylor's body a familiar place.They need to start looking where fawley was comfortable with his surroundings and richmond is where I would start.Lets hope the witness is right about the quarry.I was reading fawley is going to plead not guilty on the murder charges so I pray the LE finds some type of evidence that will stick.

[cindi in pa]

Posted by: abigail | Dec 2, 2005 12:16:00 AM

Thanks Abigail. No two ways about it, there is a face in that picture, eyes almost shut. Question is who and how. Someone posted on one of the recent Taylor threads here, BF had pictures of his daughter/s on the St.James?. I do not recall what his daughter looked like. But the person seen in the photo of the pond or whatever, does not appear to be Taylor. To me anyway.

[cindi in pa]

I was reading fawley is going to plead not guilty on the murder charges so I pray the LE finds some type of evidence that will stick.

Posted by: diane | Dec 2, 2005 7:52:47 AM

I wonder if the story of Taylor willing to go the near strangulation story would hold. Seeing Taylor was under the age of consent in VA.

JWard, it was said the pictures were taken on Belle Isle some time ago.

[diane]

Cindi,I think that would be a tuff one to sell to a jury but they may buy it.Problem I see is they had sex at one time and by all accounts it sounds like Taylor was trying to distance herself from him but it could of happened. The lawyer is going to plant the seed and Ben is going to stick with that story leaving reasonable doubt in a jury's mind unless of course the LE can prove otherwise..I don't see the under the age of consent playing a role in this case.

[vedder]

It takes 4 minutes so choke someone to death...4 MINUTES...Set a timer,sit there and see how long 4 minutes actually is....IT WAS NOT AN "ACCIDENT"

[nova]

4 minutes is not a long time if they were practicing low oxygen sex. he will say that was the case. and that "something happened" and it was all "an accident". this is known as the Preppy Murder defense. That guy got out after 20 years. Just released recently. That was his defense. What a sorry justice system we have.

[vedder]

10:30 on a school nite she was going to agree to go have "rough" "you could possibly die" sex with a guy she was clearly tring to distance herself from...Im not buying it...

He had choked two ex girlfriend(One who said it was to the point that she thought she was going to die)after they tried to leave him....thats what happened here.I think she may have started to verbably attack his little faggot "Ego"(she said she could be a "bitch")and thats when he lost it

Joe Smith,the scumbag who killed and raped 11 year old Carlie claimed he "killed her accidently during rough sex"...She was 11 YEARS OLD....I am so sick of these scumbugs using this as a defense..

[nova]

Yes I agree with you. But the lawyers are the ones that put up the Preppy Murder Defense. It is all sad and wrong of course but that is the way it is.
I recently saw the video of BF when they led him out of his apartment. A sulking punk who was squinting at being exposed to the bright sunlight. Very much like a rat being pulled out of his hole.
I have yet to see or hear any remorse from him about this death. I suppose he is saving that for the trial.
I have no sympathy for him or interest in his so called mental illnesses. He did it and whatever he did required sustained effort resulting in her death. But our justice system is so lousy the victim is always forgotten. I look for his lawyers to trash her at the trial as being a "loose" woman. That will be the final and greatest injustice. what a sorry legal system we have. this punk skunk will most likely walk out of prison in 20 years or less.

[vedder]

I agree...and thats what going to hurt her most in the trial...the fact that she was 17 and slept with this 38 year old loser.Good lord,what was she thinking????Was she THAT lonely??? Was she THAT desperate for attention????She had to fall for that stupid"you are so beatiful you should be a model" shit....It breaks my heart..

What I want to know is how she did not have a boyfriend( I know she had her "No one under 18 rule"...because she was so "cool")But if she did this may never of happened...I guess she never even went to her prom...I cant believe that a ton of guys were not trying to date her...but maybe she WAS really that "full of herself" and could not see herself dating some "silly highschool boy"
I just think that if she would have had someone that cared about her Senior year,she never would have gotten involved with him...the whole thing makes me so angry...

[effit12]

i do not know who mike cina is either. can someone fill me in. i feel left out of the loop. haha

[cindi in pa]

I just think that if she would have had someone that cared about her Senior year,she never would have gotten involved with him...the whole thing makes me so angry...

Posted by: vedder | Dec 2, 2005 1:30:57 PM

Your statement is about the MOST ABSURD thing I have ever read or heard. Has it ever occured to you, young women as well as men do NOT need a companion to justify their existance? All of my kids went to their senior prom with friends, people that they went to school with. You don't need a romantic relationship to attend a prom, or stay alive. Seems to me, you have the same attitude BF does.

[vedder]

Well,apparently,SHE NEEDED to get involved with a 38 year old...all I am saying is ,if she would have been dating someone in school she may not have gotten involved with him...not trying to upset anyone..jmo...

[vedder]

cindi
Why did she get involved with him?...It was because of ALL OF THE ATTENTION he was giving her.The attention she so desperately needed and wanted.IF she had been getting that attention from someone else...she wouldnt have NEEDED it from him...

[Rick]

"i do not know who mike cina is either. can someone fill me in. i feel left out of the loop. haha

Posted by: effit12"

Assuming you REALLY don't know who Cino is. He was an HS friend of Behl, the 21 year old she spent the weekend with when she climbed into Fawley's bed the first time. Fawley and Cino were room mates at the time.

[Alli]

I read on another site that someone was stating that Taylor had been struck over the head. Has anyone heard anything like this? If so, where?

[bob]

I tend to agree with Vedder on this one...I have a 17-YO niece who cannot SURVIVE unless she has a boyfriend. That's right, therapy and Zoloft haven't helped so far. She even has to find a new boyfriend before she breaks up with one she doesn't like anymore, because there has to be someone all the time. It breaks my heart, this girl is beautiful, and she goes with total idiots because "someone is better than no one."
Cindi in PA, I tried telling her the very thing you said..that she does not NEED a companion to justify her existance. Guess what? I might as well be talking to the wind. She ain't hearing me. So let's not jump on Vedder just yet, she's just telling you what it's really like out there, raw and uncensored.
And Vedder, Taylor did go to her prom. And when you read her journal, there was someone who hurt her deeply. Hurt is part of life, but kids today seem to be missing the coping skills to help them deal with it. fRawley provided the attention, but I'm still not convinced that the sex was 100% consensual. It may have been more like, "there's no sense fighting him" kinda consensual. The kid was no angel, but I ain't buying the nympho defense either. She may have been all smoke and no fire, and fRawley got pissed and showed her what it felt like being burned.

[bob]

Reading through this, I come to the realization that Cino is not a great friend to someone who tends to feel any type of emotion. This girl wants desperately to talk to someone. Of course computer isn't the best way to do it, but I think as a friend, if you are one, you have to try to work with what you have. He's a limp noodle in the counseling department.
"I have since kept emotion away from those who would harm it" sayeth the Cino to Taylor.
I think that says it all. He's Mr. Spock come to life. He'd be the one walking around My Lai with a clipboard in hand, taking arduous notes on the postions of the bodies and varieties of maggots feasting on the remains. Oh, and no Vicks under the nostrils for him. The smell wouldn't bother him.
I can't wait to see the IM on Cino warning taylor to steer clear of fRawley because the nut beats his GFs and throws jacks threw car windows at them. Yes, let's see that IM conversation, I'm dying to read it. When I see that I may begin to reagrd you as a MAN, not a lost little boy who can string a sentence together and make it all sound so intelligent.

[vedder]

Bob...Thank you, I always look forward to your posts....I thought I read on her LJ that she was not going to prom.I am glad she got to go.

Believe me, no one is more torn up about this than I am....and talking about it wont always be easy

IN NO WAY WHATSOEVER am I trying to blame Taylor ,not for one second.Im just sad she was so deseperate for attention..

[vedder]

Bob...You took the words right out of my mouth.Cino never seemed all that upset about the whole thing.Did he really not warn Taylor about his criminal roomate?Did he really not tell BF to keep his eyes and hands of his 17 year old friend.. What kind of friend is this...

But who knows,maybe Taylor was the kind of girl "who was going to do what she was gonna do" no matter what anyone said...

[bob]

Vedder I see you out there, your heart is in the right place.
Yes, in her LJ, I went through the "friends" comments SHE made on other LJs and she did post something about going to Prom. I's sure she went and Cino I think said she went too. I didn't get the feeling it was a romantic date, just a friend...but I could be wrong. Only she knows that for sure.
We both know it wasn't her fault. You are right about the desperate for attention, it played a role, but I'm still not willing to believe yet this was sex gone bad. I feel this may have been premeditated, stalking, "i'm gonna get you" kinda revenge. It is possible, no? She was no cat, she was still a kitten seeing what was out there.
You know it's sad seeing Janet on TV, and Janet has the respect of everyone here. You know what they say, right? "The fruit don't fall far from the tree."

[bob]

Vedder,
"But who knows, maybe Taylor was the kind of girl "who was going to do what she was gonna do" no matter what anyone said..."
EVEN if this was true, it doesn't absolve someone of doing the right thing, of saying what has to be said. She should have been warned, regardless. And maybe she was. Maybe Cino WILL find the AOL transcript and post that one too. Somehoo, I doubt he gonna find it.
Which this is kinda weird too. Why does a person save IM posts? You'd physically have to cut and paste text into a word document, no? Can someone fill me in on that? I wonder if he tapes phone conversations too?
Cino isn't a very emotional person, apparently. He's already posted soemthing to the effect that he "doesn't care who a man shares a bed with."
I read that and thought, gee, there's no line, huh? Makes me wonder, at what age do we cut off? 10? 15? I think he really could care less.
He didn't warn her about any of it, cause he thought it either wasn't his business, or he was hoping Taylor would fill the void in fRawley's life made by Erin.

[vedder]

Bob...Not for ONE SECOND do I believe it was "rough sex gone bad"...Like I said, I believe there was a confrontation(HIM askin about her new "friends" etc..) of some sort and she started attacking his ego and telling him "what a loser he is etc..." and he just lost it...couldnt take ONE more rejection...

Thank you for your kind words..

[error404]

A person can't judge, or know a person, based on their posts on a blog or an IM message transcript.

Taylor's real friends, Cino being one of them, have to deal with their pain and loss long after the curious public and lynch-mob crowd have moved on to yet 'another crime of interest'.

Taylor herself stated that Cino was a dear friend and that she loved him, unfortunately, she is now dead, so she can't justify her feelings about him to anyone in here.

I'm sure, if Taylor were alive, she'd be upset to see a person she considered a good friend being dragged through the mud by strangers though...

[Rick]

Bob and Vedder: Where do you get the idea that Taylor desperately wanted to rid herself of fawley?

[vedder]

Bob
"EVEN if this was true, it doesn't absolve someone of doing the right thing, of saying what has to be said"

You are absolutely correct.Thats why I have always had such a problem with Cino....He should have been looking out for her like a big brother..He KNEW BF was bad news...

[Rick]

Amazing the differences in opinion people get when they read other people's writing. In those 2003 chat logs, before Taylor ever met fawley, it is obvious to me that Cino is reaching out to her and offering a shoulder. And how do we know that Cino never told Taylor to stay away from the guy?

[John]

Bob posted: "Why does a person save IM posts? You'd physically have to cut and paste text into a word document, no? Can someone fill me in on that? I wonder if he tapes phone conversations too?
"

Most chat programs have chat log features. If they are turned on it keeps a text copy of all chats you have until it is turned off or they are deleted. This is useful if you use messaging for work or specifically tech support, or just for people who like to remember conversations with friends

[bob]

Rick, get it right from her LJ, her friends quoted as same, along with Janet. It's just my opinion, thus the "I feel" preface to the statement, followed by "It is possible, no?" I admit I could be wrong, that's just my hunch that is the way it went down.

[john]

Rick posted: "Bob and Vedder: Where do you get the idea that Taylor desperately wanted to rid herself of fawley?"

I too have seen this repeated over and over again..but I haven't seen any proof that Taylor was upset with Fawley or coudn't stand him or wanted him out of her life.