Pearl Harbor

Some history here and some images here

We should never forget when and by whom we were attacked on December 7,1941 - or what it cost us in blood and treasure to respond. Any less willingness to win today will only lead to defeat. If the Japan of December 7, 1941 can achieve what it has and become a trusted friend, only a fool would believe anything less is possible for Iraq

PEARL HARBOR, Hawaii (AP) -- Survivors of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor will join sailors, community leaders and guests on Wednesday for the 64th anniversary of the assault.

The crowd will observe a moment of silence at 7:55 a.m. - the moment the attack began in 1941.

A U.S. Navy ship will honor the USS Arizona, which lies submerged in Pearl Harbor with the bodies of hundreds of sailors still aboard. The Hawaii Air National Guard will fly F-15s in formation over the harbor.

The Navy's chief uniformed officer, Adm. Michael G. Mullen, is scheduled to address the crowd along with Sen. Daniel K. Inouye, D-Hawaii, who saw and heard Japanese planes drop bombs on Oahu as a teenager in Honolulu.

Pearl Harbor

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[TuxedoJunction]

Aloha 'oe
Cannot get thru "typekey" But I do thank all that stood up to the day that life stood still.
Live Aloha.

[TuxedoJunction]

The crowd will observe a moment of silence at 7:55 a.m. - the moment the attack began in 1941.
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Wonder if you all know that....when on the Base/Pearl Harbor, etc., Every morning at 0755 on base, all traffic, etc, STOPS and they pay tribute to the moment of attack, not only on 12/07. God Bless America and Hawai'i nae too.
Aloha Kakou.

[TheAlamo]

The crowd will observe a moment of silence at 7:55 a.m. - the moment the attack began in 1941.
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And sadly, that fact was known over a week ahead of time by the president of the United States, and he chose to do nothing to warn those men. They, in fact, were told to park their planes facing inward in a circle....so they would not be able to get off the ground in order to defend the base.
Why Roosevelt is listed as anything other than a murderer and criminal in history books is a sickening shame. As far as I am concerned, he murdered those men/woman. Yeah, it was a day that will live in infamy allright--especially for those who know what that bastard did...or did not do.

[AuntJ]

"Any less willingness to win today will only lead to defeat."

This is how I look at it for our world today. If you've never looked back at how the world handled/reacted to Germany and Japan prior to our entering WWII, you should; you will be amazed at how similar it is to today's world.

God Bless all those who died on Dec 7, 1941.

[Not a Hand Wringer]

I'm not sure how you make the leap from defeating the Japanese, to Iraq.

The situations are quite different, and defeating the insurgency in Iraq is hardly a given.

One was a war between nations. The other is a War between various ideologies. J

Japan had a single leader. An Emperor, who's command was obey'd by all Japanese...including the military leaders. Who is that person in Iraq, who can with a single command....get all Iraqis to agree to surrendor and begin a rebuilding process?

The second difference is this. You're fighting an insurgency in Iraq. Things might not have gone so swell in Japan, had the emperor not been able to convince all Japanese to lay down their arms. Without that ability to have a single leader guide his people through a surrendor and rebuilding process, it's unlikely that Japan would have morphed so easily into a peaceful nation.

Once the War ended in Japan, the peace began. Once the War ended in Iraq ( according to Bush ), the fighting just started.

This is the problem with comparing Wars. Each is quite different, and if you want to compare Iraq to any other war, I'd suggest you look at Vietnam....where America was not victorious.

That's far more believable for Iraq, than a scenario where 50 years from now, Iraq is a manufacturing power exporting electronics goods to America.

Of course, we are all grateful to those who gave the ultimate sacrifice in WW2, including many who died at Pear Harbour.

[Luis]

God Bless all those who died on Dec 7, 1941.

Posted by: AuntJ | Dec 7, 2005 9:09:14 AM
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Why did americans never wanted to get involved before dec 7 1941 ?

Time and time again I -have to- read on this blog how great the yank was for 'liberating' The Netherlands (historically untrue, but what the heck, it was the Polish, Canadians & English).

Today I will remember all who died b/c the us wanted to stay "neutral" during WWII... !!

[Dan is the Man]

I agree entirely with what "Not a Hand Wringer" says. These wars are just completely different. I know the tragedies of both, because I have personal ties with both wars. But what we are facing in Iraq is so hard to comprehend. No matter if you are for the war, or against it, there are still men and women who are losing their lives every day. You can protest in Texas or anywhere else in the United States, but our soldiers do not have that option. They obviously live in fear of an enemy who does not have a clear face. But an enemy that is disguised as everyday country men. The same country men that cheered for the fall of Sadaam.
In WWII, you had a solid entity. You had an army that attacked. Here, you don’t have an army. You have people with a radical way of thinking that has been embedded in their mind.
It is like saying that Democrats have it all wrong, and you need to change their way of thinking. You can throw all of the dirt you want and throw out the most convincing evidence about why a democrat shouldn’t be allowed to live in this country. But, I guarantee you that you couldn’t change them all. And besides, how can you physically tell the difference between a republican and a democrat? If you were kicking every democrat out of the country, a dem would just say he/she is a republican. You couldn't question it, unless you caught them in the act of supporting democrat views.
Saying this, I am not conveying that I am against the Iraq war. I feel that there are some major changes that need to take place in that country in order to help American and Middle East security. But I feel that our response to questions of why we are over there, and what we are going to do is clouded with questions. "We are going to defeat the terrorist." In all honesty, can you actually say that this feat is possible? Defeating evil? After September 11, we went after Osama. We knew what he looked like. We knew where he was at. We knew that by taking him down, we could obtain justice to an extent. But where is Osama now?
Can we stop crime in this country? Can we change the ideology of an everyday criminal? We are aware that the drug business is a threat to our country and our safety, but can we stop it completely? No, but we can minimize the risk and control it. We can fight crime, but we cant stop it. We can fight drugs, but they will always be here. This is not a utopia, and we will continue to live in ignorance thinking that one can be obtained on this earth. Why? Because everyone’s idea of a utopia is different. Everyone has a different solution to every problem.
I feel that we need to analyze what we are trying to do in Iraq, and make sure we have a clear and reachable goal. If Bush was running a business and he wanted investors, his 'clear' business plan wouldn't attract many people. My heart and sympathy goes out to the soldiers and civilians that have lost their lives in fighting for our freedom.

[iwabwu]

No one can do everything, but everyone can do something.

[MarlboroGal]

And sadly, that fact was known over a week ahead of time by the president of the United States, and he chose to do nothing to warn those men. They, in fact, were told to park their planes facing inward in a circle....so they would not be able to get off the ground in order to defend the base.
Why Roosevelt is listed as anything other than a murderer and criminal in history books is a sickening shame. As far as I am concerned, he murdered those men/woman. Yeah, it was a day that will live in infamy allright--especially for those who know what that bastard did...or did not do.
Posted by: TheAlamo | Dec 7, 2005 4:00:16 AM

Alamo, you and I both know they don't teach what REALLY happened in school. We're taught the fairytale 'version of the truth'. You have to dig to find the whole truth, and when you do, you will find irrefutable proof that Roosevelt committed treason. The information is out there all right, and anyone with half a brain will find it. I hope that f***ing SOB is rotting in hell!

[TheAlamo]

Alamo, you and I both know they don't teach what REALLY happened in school. We're taught the fairytale 'version of the truth'. You have to dig to find the whole truth, and when you do, you will find irrefutable proof that Roosevelt committed treason. The information is out there all right, and anyone with half a brain will find it. I hope that f***ing SOB is rotting in hell!

Posted by: MarlboroGal | Dec 8, 2005 11:23:13 AM

Shhh....don't say that....most people actually think they have been "educated." It would hurt their psyche to find out it is not education...it is programming.