Natalee Holloway: Notes And Observations

Found what I was looking for - whatever it's worth.

I don't know how the story turned into the one about BHT finding out on the road. You can call Tinkerbelle's Bed and Breakfast in Hot Springs, Arkansas and they will confirm this. BHT got the first call (evidently one from a chaperone saying NH was missing) shortly after lunch.

My husband works a night shift so we were asleep in the Kipling room when we heard loud screams and prayers. The couple that run this house ran the house in "Groundhog's Day" and are very religious. They were laying hands on her and telling her that G-d would strenghten her and then she left quickly and the lady of the house cancelled her scheduled appointment qat the Arlington Bath House on bathhouse road.

We didn't understand that this was going to be significant until we came home about 4 days later. Since we sleep until about 2:00 pm we had only seen her and a group of friends at dinner and another night at Coy's Steakhouse.
I don't like to talk a lot about this because I am not the issue. But I assure you that Tinkerbelle's will probably answer your question for legitimacy reasons. They are wonderful people. He's a postaql employee and she's a designer and wonderful host of this four story mansion that had the first running water within hundreds of miles and the best breakfast, bar none.

At most b&b's, there is a lot of privacy as you have your own key and can come and go as you want. So we had a balcony, we smoke (ICKKK!) and we had seen her coming and going but we had not had breakfast with her (main meal) because we slept later than most. She was small and frail looking and we were only told to pray for her daughter (which all of us did) because we thought she had been in an accident. Poor beautiful lady. Inside and out.

Several comments here.

Comments

[Words]

Maybe Natalee is there with them?

[gagal_05]

So why the lie about the phone call and driving 120mpg on Greta's show? Was this just the start of the fabrications of Beth Twitty? What the heck is gong on?

[sensible]

Bizarre. Why did Beth Twitty start this whole episode with a lie?

[morrison]

Why do people immediately believe things that are written on the internet? And better yet, what reason would anyone have to lie about this sort of thing. I don't think there could be any possible reason for such a lie in the first place.

[bizarre]

jeez, this is getting wierder and wierder. But dan, why was she there?
Where was her husband and her son? That question has yet to be answered.

[Muirnin]

Hi Gagal 05....

Haven't spoke to you in ages!

Anyway....as for the Natalee story.....who knows what to believe anymore. I think everyone is lying. So much drama, so much BS. If this story was submitted to "Lifetime" for a movie, it would be rejected for being too unrealistic!

[gagal_05]

Hi Gagal 05....

Haven't spoke to you in ages!

Anyway....as for the Natalee story.....who knows what to believe anymore. I think everyone is lying. So much drama, so much BS. If this story was submitted to "Lifetime" for a movie, it would be rejected for being too unrealistic!

Posted by: Muirnin | Dec 11, 2005 3:03:39 AM

Hey Muirnin..Good to see you post.

As for this, it really gets weird when you go to Tinkerbelle's website. Looks like a b&b for couples to me.

http://www.wildwood1884.com/index.html

[sensible]

Gagal,
Maybe you can check transcripts. Further down in the comments over at Websleuths is the following posted on 9/13:

Beth was asked by NG tonight where she was when she received that call.
This time she said she was in her hotel room.
***
We do have the everchanging story...

[sensible]

If this story was submitted to "Lifetime" for a movie, it would be rejected for being too unrealistic!

Posted by: Muirnin | Dec 11, 2005 3:03:39 AM

Ain't that the truth! Good to see you posting Muirnin.

[sensible]

jeez, this is getting wierder and wierder. But dan, why was she there?
Where was her husband and her son? That question has yet to be answered.

Posted by: bizarre | Dec 11, 2005 3:02:50 AM

She was off on a jaunt with some girlfriends.

[Muirnin]

As for this, it really gets weird when you go to Tinkerbelle's website. Looks like a b&b for couples to me.

http://www.wildwood1884.com/index.html

Posted by: gagal_05 | Dec 11, 2005 3:07:02 AM

Yeah, I think so too. Actually, I can't imagine going to ANY Bed & Breakfast solo.....that would be a little freakish! Oh, what fun to sit around with couples when you are alone....

Hmmmm...wonder if she was being frisky with someone???

[gagal_05]

jeez, this is getting wierder and wierder. But dan, why was she there?
Where was her husband and her son? That question has yet to be answered.

Posted by: bizarre | Dec 11, 2005 3:02:50 AM

She was off on a jaunt with some girlfriends.

Posted by: sensible | Dec 11, 2005 3:17:04 AM

In a b&b that looks like it is built around romance? Does not make sense.

[gagal_05]

As for this, it really gets weird when you go to Tinkerbelle's website. Looks like a b&b for couples to me.

http://www.wildwood1884.com/index.html

Posted by: gagal_05 | Dec 11, 2005 3:07:02 AM

Yeah, I think so too. Actually, I can't imagine going to ANY Bed & Breakfast solo.....that would be a little freakish! Oh, what fun to sit around with couples when you are alone....

Hmmmm...wonder if she was being frisky with someone???

Posted by: Muirnin | Dec 11, 2005 3:19:15 AM

Excellent question.

[fiery]

this doesn't make a bit of sense. Was she alone? Were the girlfriends covering for her? or Are we getting the biggest clue of this entire mess?

[fiery]

first the story was she was driving 120 mph. You assumed she was alone.
That part may be true. Then it changed to she was in the back seat and two girlfriends were with her. Why did it change?

Now, if we are finding out she was hysterical, then what did she suspect?
She was just being told the kid missed the flight. Why the hysteria?

[Muirnin]

She was off on a jaunt with some girlfriends.

Posted by: sensible | Dec 11, 2005 3:17:04 AM

At a Bed & Breakfast? Huh?

Maybe I'm strange, but if I wanted to have a few days of fun with my girlfriends...we wouldn't be going to a Bed & Breakfast! Unless, of course, we were in the mood to sit by the fireplace quietly and read together!

Who knows though....maybe this Tinkerbelle's place is a little wild!

[Muirnin]

Hmmmm...wonder if she was being frisky with someone???

Posted by: Muirnin | Dec 11, 2005 3:19:15 AM

Excellent question.

Posted by: gagal_05 | Dec 11, 2005 3:22:47 AM

Something stinks about this whole situation. Not only the B & B story, but all the little lying friends from MB (JMO!).

[gagal_05]

Hmmmm...wonder if she was being frisky with someone???

Posted by: Muirnin | Dec 11, 2005 3:19:15 AM

Excellent question.

Posted by: gagal_05 | Dec 11, 2005 3:22:47 AM

Something stinks about this whole situation. Not only the B & B story, but all the little lying friends from MB (JMO!).

Posted by: Muirnin | Dec 11, 2005 3:32:29 AM

I agree. Too many things just do not add up.

[fiery]

MAYBE IT WUS CUZ BETH WUZ LYIN!!

Posted by: GUHN gah | Dec 11, 2005 3:21:04 AM

about what, in particular?

[fiery]

Maybe Natalee is there with them?

Posted by: Words | Dec 11, 2005 2:20:08 AM

why do you think this?

[Muirnin]

I agree. Too many things just do not add up.

Posted by: gagal_05 | Dec 11, 2005 3:34:16 AM

The thing that has bothered me from the very beginning is Natalee's friends, if you could call them that. Their reaction to Natalee being missing was so....abnormal. They immediately jumped at the chance to give interviews, and then sat there sharing a brain and saying the equivalent of "duh".

Maybe I'm a weird friend, but if any of my friends went missing, I think I'd be too distraught to be interviewed on TV, or anywhere! Honestly, Natalee's friends seemed a little giddy and happy for some of these interviews. Smiling away, not a tear was shed, no emotional breakdowns. What's with that?

[Muirnin]

I agree. Too many things just do not add up.

Posted by: gagal_05 | Dec 11, 2005 3:34:16 AM

The thing that has bothered me from the very beginning is Natalee's friends, if you could call them that. Their reaction to Natalee being missing was so....abnormal. They immediately jumped at the chance to give interviews, and then sat there sharing a brain and saying the equivalent of "duh".

Maybe I'm a weird friend, but if any of my friends went missing, I think I'd be too distraught to be interviewed on TV, or anywhere! Honestly, Natalee's friends seemed a little giddy and happy for some of these interviews. Smiling away, not a tear was shed, no emotional breakdowns. What's with that?

[Muirnin]

Sorry for the double post! I got some strange "TypePad" message and had to enter a code to verify something....don't know what.

Oh, whatever.....

[gagal_05]

I agree. Too many things just do not add up.

Posted by: gagal_05 | Dec 11, 2005 3:34:16 AM

The thing that has bothered me from the very beginning is Natalee's friends, if you could call them that. Their reaction to Natalee being missing was so....abnormal. They immediately jumped at the chance to give interviews, and then sat there sharing a brain and saying the equivalent of "duh".

Maybe I'm a weird friend, but if any of my friends went missing, I think I'd be too distraught to be interviewed on TV, or anywhere! Honestly, Natalee's friends seemed a little giddy and happy for some of these interviews. Smiling away, not a tear was shed, no emotional breakdowns. What's with that?

Posted by: Muirnin | Dec 11, 2005 3:44:38 AM

Have you tried to register with the typepad thing so you could post with us? Would like to see you post there...

[chance]

I admit I'm not the brightest bulb on the tree but I don't get the significance of this lie. What are the implications? Or is it just that Beth was not telling the truth?

And I agree about the student interviews. I always thought that no one was concerned she was missing because they just figured she shacked up with Joran.

[alleycat]

.... Further down in the comments over at Websleuths is the following posted on 9/13:

Beth was asked by NG tonight where she was when she received that call.
This time she said she was in her hotel room.
***
We do have the everchanging story...

Posted by: sensible | Dec 11, 2005 3:12:17 AM

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No, that's not correct sensible. Nancy was asking Beth where she was on the day when JVDS was released from jail in September:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0509/13/ng.01.html

GRACE: Beth, where were you when you got the news that Van Der Sloot was going to be released?

TWITTY: I was in my hotel room......

[Muirnin]

She was small and frail looking and we were only told to pray for her daughter (which all of us did) because we thought she had been in an accident. Poor beautiful lady. Inside and out.
Several comments here.
Posted by Dan in Natalee Holloway | Permalink

Okay.....I'm beginning to think this is a tall tale. Beth, small & frail looking? Huh? Yes, she may be petite, but from her looks from the earliest interviews, I wouldn't say "frail". She looked rather healthy and robust to me early on.

Another strange thing....the writer mentions being asleep because her husband is on "night shift".......during a Bed & Breakfast visit? I used to work night shift, and normally, one tries to revert to normal on days off, especially if you are going away to a Bed & Breakfast!!!

The writer also mentions at a Bed & Breakfast, you have alot of privacy. Hah! I'd like to stay at one of the B & B's she visits, considering all the ones I've been to have NO privacy! Everyone knows when you come or go, everyone eats meals together, sits around together...what is her definition of "private"???

I guess what I'm trying to say is the Beth B & B story sounds bogus to me.

[gagal_05]

I guess what I'm trying to say is the Beth B & B story sounds bogus to me.

Posted by: Muirnin | Dec 11, 2005 4:03:33 AM

I am so with you. Everything about the b&b rings false to me.

You really need to come post with us. You would be great!

[Muirnin]

Have you tried to register with the typepad thing so you could post with us? Would like to see you post there...

Posted by: gagal_05 | Dec 11, 2005 3:50:44 AM

What? There is another site or something? I'm not registered with Typepad. I was months ago for another site...but don't recall the particulars about it...site and/or password, etc.

What do I do?

[gagal_05]

Have you tried to register with the typepad thing so you could post with us? Would like to see you post there...

Posted by: gagal_05 | Dec 11, 2005 3:50:44 AM

What? There is another site or something? I'm not registered with Typepad. I was months ago for another site...but don't recall the particulars about it...site and/or password, etc.

What do I do?

Posted by: Muirnin | Dec 11, 2005 4:11:29 AM

email dan.

[Muirnin]

TWITTY: I was in my hotel room......

Posted by: alleycat | Dec 11, 2005 4:01:54 AM

Is this woman ever home? Has she forgotten that she has a son?????

[gagal_05]

TWITTY: I was in my hotel room......

Posted by: alleycat | Dec 11, 2005 4:01:54 AM

Is this woman ever home? Has she forgotten that she has a son?????

Posted by: Muirnin | Dec 11, 2005 4:22:32 AM

10 days in 6 months...

[Muirnin]

Posted by: Muirnin | Dec 11, 2005 4:11:29 AM

email dan.

Posted by: gagal_05 | Dec 11, 2005 4:20:35 AM

Will do. I'll email later "today". BTW, who's there? Anyone I might know?

[gagal_05]

Posted by: Muirnin | Dec 11, 2005 4:11:29 AM

email dan.

Posted by: gagal_05 | Dec 11, 2005 4:20:35 AM

Will do. I'll email later "today". BTW, who's there? Anyone I might know?

Posted by: Muirnin | Dec 11, 2005 4:27:11 AM

Yep..

[Muirnin]

Posted by: Muirnin | Dec 11, 2005 4:22:32 AM

10 days in 6 months...

Posted by: gagal_05 | Dec 11, 2005 4:24:02 AM

You know, initially I felt really bad for Beth. Sometimes I still do; it can't be easy what she is going through. But, recently, she seems to annoy me, taken on some shrew personality that is quite unattractive. She is quickly turning into a big turn-off. Jug has always been a bit annoying, but his true colors recently have made him even more unsavory. I think he has some anger management issues..

[sensible]

No, that's not correct sensible. Nancy was asking Beth where she was on the day when JVDS was released from jail in September:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0509/13/ng.01.html

GRACE: Beth, where were you when you got the news that Van Der Sloot was going to be released?

TWITTY: I was in my hotel room......

Posted by: alleycat | Dec 11, 2005 4:01:54 AM

Thanks for looking that up! The poster at Websleuths got it wrong then. I didn't think I had ever heard Beth Twitty say she had gotten the original phonecall at a hotel.

[Muirnin]

Posted by: Muirnin | Dec 11, 2005 4:27:11 AM

Yep..

Posted by: gagal_05 | Dec 11, 2005 4:29:27 AM

Cool beans.....

[alleycat]

TWITTY: I was in my hotel room......

Posted by: alleycat | Dec 11, 2005 4:01:54 AM

Thanks for looking that up! The poster at Websleuths got it wrong then. I didn't think I had ever heard Beth Twitty say she had gotten the original phonecall at a hotel.

Posted by: sensible | Dec 11, 2005 4:33:57 AM
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Glad to help. I found it by reading a little further down on the WS thread actually. Mic73 had posted the text but I had to go find the link, lol. I like to be thorough if nothing else.

[Muirnin]

TWITTY: I was in my hotel room......

Posted by: alleycat | Dec 11, 2005 4:01:54 AM

Thanks for looking that up! The poster at Websleuths got it wrong then. I didn't think I had ever heard Beth Twitty say she had gotten the original phonecall at a hotel.

Posted by: sensible | Dec 11, 2005 4:33:57 AM
-------------------------
Glad to help. I found it by reading a little further down on the WS thread actually. Mic73 had posted the text but I had to go find the link, lol. I like to be thorough if nothing else.

Posted by: alleycat | Dec 11, 2005 5:00:05 AM

Just curious...

What are both your thoughts on Beth? Gut feeling, honest or dishonest?

[ustt]

I guess what I'm trying to say is the Beth B & B story sounds bogus to me.

Posted by: Muirnin | Dec 11, 2005 4:03:33 AM

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me too - sounds so bogus to me too - for the reasons you point out and others. why would dan give credence to this by posting it here i wonder?

[alleycat]

Just curious...

What are both your thoughts on Beth? Gut feeling, honest or dishonest?

Posted by: Muirnin | Dec 11, 2005 5:12:58 AM
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After much thought, I feel that Beth, whether she does everything 100% right or wrong at any given time, is a woman with too much of a burden to bear. I would never want to even TRY to walk a mile in her shoes. None of us can say how we would react if we were in her place, so I try to be patient and remember "There but for the grace of God go the rest of us". Things like this don't just happen to other people in far off places, it could happen to any one of us, at any given time, it could have happened at the local Wal-Mart. I try to remember that, God forbid, it could be me in her shoes, so I won't judge Beth, no way.

[shari]

First of all, the terms "bed & breakfast" and "hotel" can be used interchangeably. When I make reservations for vacations, I look into both types of resorts. Second, even if she WAS there with a secret lover as so many of you are implying, who cares? It does not change anything. Do you think she would have admitted that from the beginning? The fact remains, that Beth got the phonecall that her daughter was missing while she was away for a few days. You guys are so judgemental and will go to any length to brand her a liar, just to demean her. Bottom line: she is a desperate mother looking for her missing daughter. I certainly wouldn't judge her either. Give the woman a break!

[Brooke]

"jeez, this is getting wierder and wierder. But dan, why was she there?
Where was her husband and her son? That question has yet to be answered.

Posted by: bizarre | Dec 11, 2005 3:02:50 AM"

The Twit BT lied from day one and still is. I never saw her as the grieving mother, she doesn't care about anyone but herself, not her son and obviously not her daughter. All she cares about is her disgusting self-centered self!

She is one piece of work.

[musicgirlms]

The new Vanity Fair article states that Beth and friends were staying at a lake house.

[hardyandtiny]

There's no way tinkerbelle's host server will make it through this one.

[shari]

The new Vanity Fair article states that Beth and friends were staying at a lake house.
Posted by: musicgirlms | Dec 11, 2005 7:23:40 AM

Good, hopefully, that will put to rest any more false rumors.

[hardyandtiny]

jeez, this is getting wierder and wierder. But dan, why was she there?
Where was her husband and her son? That question has yet to be answered.

Posted by: bizarre | Dec 11, 2005 3:02:50 AM

maybe she was never there.

[hardyandtiny]

Hmmmm...wonder if she was being frisky with someone???

Posted by: Muirnin | Dec 11, 2005 3:19:15 AM

Excellent question.

Posted by: gagal_05 | Dec 11, 2005 3:22:47 AM

don't know if it's true.....

"......she seemed to be with two or three other ladies......"

[berry]

BT said she was on a holiday outing with several girlfriends. Who cares if she was staying at a charming B and B/spa? What interests me is that the new mystery (probably a hoax) letter is from AK.

[hardyandtiny]

What interests me is that the new mystery (probably a hoax) letter is from AK.

Posted by: berry | Dec 11, 2005 7:56:10 AM

AK or AR? Yeah, probably a hoax. I'm sure it's not the first strange letter received by people involved in the case.