Taylor Behl Investigation: Hi Res Lake Photos

See here. Please contact authorities if you can identify this lake.

Comments

[cindi in pa]

If this picture gets out to enough people, someone should be able to identify the area on the other side of the lake. If my eyes are not playing tricks, it appears there are boats or buildings of some type on the other side. Also appears to be a rather large pond to me. We have an area here in PA that looks very similar, being an island on the Jersey side of the Delaware River. Of course I know its not.

[Kathleen]

Those pics look like they were taken within minutes of one another in pretty much the same place, so why is there a horizontal branch in the closer pic that isn't in the other one? Perhaps a marker?

[FloridaPatty]

I can think of atleast five places in Florida, if not more, that this place looks like. Since I do nature photography, I notice the muddy water which could be run off but looks very southern to me. Also the bugs flying over the water reminds me of early morning or just before sun down. (them's fishin' waters )

[FloridaPatty]

second shot the photographer got a HEART.

Eyes back from the water and look at the foliage.
The branches fall together like a heart. First shot the wind may have moved the branches (or the photographer) second shot they got the picture. But that's just me and my artistic eyes.

[Dan]

Im trying to understand what that pattern in the water means - on the right, like a mud ring

[Dan]

The camera that took this has a chip in the lense, or something - there are small deformities in each picture - like a square - right at the end of the tree branches in number 3 and at the top of the tree line near the left side of number 2. It looks like the lense was really dirty, too - that swiping effect on the pictures - a bit cloudy.

[Kathleen]

Dan, maybe a sand bar in shallow water?

In the second pic, the vertical branch looks to me to be a bit straighter, maybe the horizontal branch is tied to it. I see no heart, Patty.

[seeker]

It looks to me that the photo was altered in the middle. It looks kinda fuzzy. Like maybe they removed a person?

[Captain Joe]

A sand bar on the second pic would indicate a creek, not a pond. Looks like the water meanders around a turn. Definitely a creek or lazy river.

[Jan]

so I can post here but not on NH

[Hope*]

It looks like there is a form in the middle of the picture to the left
of that branch that grows straight up. A figure of someone that has
been removed.

Blow it up even more and you can definately see that it looks like a woman
with long hair, you can see the outline.

I think on the 2nd photo the leaves on the branch were removed,
see how there is a branch that goes across the middle of the picture in the
first photo and in the second photo it does not exist. At first I thought
these were taken at different times, but I think it is more that things
were removed.

[Hope*]

forgot to add this:
similar in the trees that are in these photos at this Prince William forest Park that is in VA
http://www.hikercentral.com/parks/prwi/pic.jpg
Prince William forest Park

[abigail]

How about a river inlet? Off the Pamunkey, Rappahanncock, James....I did see the heart though! Not sure if it's significant...
Certainly does not look like "busy" water at the time of the photo. Looks like different times of day and at a different angle, or perhaps just the angle of the picture..dunno..

[kinsey]

I see the heart too patty.I also see what ;looks like a faint outline of a long haired woman.I dont nesessarily think the horizontal branch was removed from the second picture I think the photographer moved himself beyond that branch as the two little yellowish leaves look not only bigger but closer to the lens in p0respective ifthat makes sense.Im wondering if it was taken digitally the photographer may have glanced at the preview and noticed the heart stepped closer and snapped the other one.as far as removing a person i wonder if maybe that is just a smudge on the lens if the photo was cropped it would explain the figure being in 2 diffrent spots on the photo we see.just my thoughts but that water reminds mre of the canal banks of the intercostal waterway which stretches n to s for what 9 states?

[kinsey]

oh i for got this ...those may not be mud rings I have seen this many times in the dismal swamp it could be pollen on the water.

[nonews]

The pics were taken at slightly different angles, but when I layered them, it seems the lower leafy horizontal branch should have been in both of them, maybe he broke it off for one pic since it was in the way? Most of fuzziness was dirty lens (exactly same pattern) but there is one section that looks like it might have been tampered with. However, impossible to tell with the resolution on these.

[kreg]

I don't think its a lake! I think it's river that happens to be very shallow in at least part of it and very slow running.

[John]

Looks like a river to me...very similar to when I've been tubing on the Rapphannock. Will be very hard to pinpoint this because it looks like almost every other small body of water in VA. There are tons of places it could be in the Tidewater region..lots of bays/inlets/swamps/creeks/rivers etc.

[L.]

I've been overlaying them for the last half hour. for the sizing on the branches to match up, one has to be increased 120%. Placement doesn't match up then, like the person stepped over and down. I'd have to say that the 003 image was taken from someone standing more to the right side of the little tree and at a higher ground level. And although they look a lot alike, I don't think they where taken the same day. There is more ground foliage in 002 then there is on the 003 image. But 003 has a bud on the small tree that isn't present on 002. Maybe a week or so part.
But that's just my six months of studying photography rearing it's ugly head. I knew there would come a day when I wished I'd have continued that hobby.

[Rick]

For Pete's sake people back away from the monitor. That "lake" is all of 100 yards wide and if those are "houses" you see they are inhabited by elves.There does appear to be a scratch or something on the lense.But I think you have a picture of a flooded creek or river.

[Jackpot]

I am from the Lynchburg area of Va...and I swear it looks like the James River to me. We have areas all along the river here that look just like that. Of Course the James River goes to Richmond, and I am sure that there are also areas all along it there too..that look just like that.I don't know about Mathews Co.

[Jackpot]

On another note...if the authorities are saying pond...it is obviously a pond or small lake and not a part of the river. I hope someone will see it and recognize it, just like the picture of the abandoned house where Taylor was found.

[doodles]

I don't know much about pictures but to me it looks like the leaves and limb were added to the second picture. Could this be?

[ClC]

anyone notice the bottom half of the tree's in the background are kinda abnormally blurry... almost as if someone pieced that area together, or colored it in to hide something...

I can see the heart, but can't totally piece the person together

I seriously hope someone can figure out where these pictures were taken... I'd be tempted to take a drive around the County (Mathews) to try and find this place... but there is just waaayy to much water mass around here!

[Shorty]

Jackpot

What about the Chesapeake? Glad to see you on here. I was just trying to rule out Smith Mountain Lake since we're probably talking about a body of water in VA.

By the way....Howdy neighbor. I'm from Danville.

[doodles]

added to first picture sorry

[abigail]

JMO- I think they were taken around the same time, just a few minutes apart at a diffent angle and the sun makes the difference on the colors. A few leaves look a deeper "orange" in the second. What is that "seahorse" thing in white--the chip in the lense? I don't see that in the second picure, but perhaps we are picking them apart too much in detail. I think LE just wants to know the location.

[abigail]

Hi Ricky! Where you been all my life? ;)

Where do you guys suppose these pictures came from? I recall many years ago, like a hundred years ago, canoeing on the James and going into these little creeks, oh nevermind, they were much smaller then the pictures, but had little activity...It seems the water had not been "stirred" in the pictures in a while, but seems the "silt" or what have you was being set. Me not know! :)

[Shorty]

Dan

The mud ring you mention looks like just the wave line made by possibly a jet ski. Most of VA had a drought this summer and a lot of lake areas were low. (Not mud low but low none the less.)It looks to me to be a cove at a lake. Has anyone been able to tell if those are small boats in the background?

[abigail]

By the way....Howdy neighbor. I'm from Danville.

Posted by: Shorty | Nov 30, 2005 12:09:22 AM

Did you go to GW?

[K]

I don't think it's dirt on the lense...I think he has overlaid at least one other picture directly in the center of pic 003,where I see a female and another figure behind her... these both appear to be doctored photographs with embedded images.

[Shorty]

Abigail

Yes...you?

[abigail]

Abigail

Yes...you?

Posted by: Shorty | Nov 30, 2005 12:49:15 AM

No, my husband went. Ever heard of Barker Funeral Home?

[Shorty]

OMG....YES! Grew up in church with the Barkers at North Main!

[Shorty]

Abigail

I won't print their names, but I'll tell you that I was in Sunday school with "S", her mother was "L",(since divorced maybe?) her father was "O" and she had a younger brother but I can't remember his name.

[abigail]

K---Who do you think "he" is?

[Shorty]

Must be the younger brother.

[abigail]

Shorty--email me, and I will update you!

[alert]

Those little so called houses,could they be hot houses of some sort, or something to store equipment... any fish farms around there, rice patties, or ..?
The circular movement appears to have been created by something... something dropped in from above?

[abigail]

Good Night guys! Hope you figure it out! :)

[bob]

I read through the posts about these photos, and damn it I do see the image of a girl with long hair, apparently wearing sunglasses. But this has to be the sun, or smuges on the lens playing tricks in this photo. If someone WAS removed from the photo, how did they get the water behind her to look so correct? Nobody is that good at photoshop, right? This is pretty creepy. I saw "white noise" a while back and this is just weirdness going on right now.

[mom 43]

Didn't anyone rotate it? Twice one way or the other! and enlarge, top left corner.

[ClC]

ran across this link on the courttv forum... quite a clear picture... http://images.ibsys.com/2005/1129/5429213.jpg

[x]

I don't think theres anything hidden in these pictures.
They just want to know where the pictures were taken.

Personally i can't see this girl with long hair and glasses, but I think what people are seeing are the effects of a dirty lense and thats all.
For someone (Ben?) to edit these photos they would have to be highly skilled, and by looking at some of Bens photoshop work, I don't think hes up to that standard.

I'd say the photos were taken on the same day, just from different angles and one infront of the horizontal branch.
Who ever mentioned houses and equipment sheds... WHAT!?
Where exactly? I cannot see anything that even slightly resembles a building.

As usual, people are reading into things far too much.

[teresa]

OK, I know nothing about water but my husband is a big fisherman. He said this looks like the James River. The water color makes him think that. He said the water color in the area they said this "pond" might be would be a more acid color. Hey he is 50 and has been fishing since he was 7. It is more like a cove or a creek.

[FloridaPatty]

that muddy ring is runoff or current kicking up the bottom. I've seen the same thing when someone was boating up river and the wake drifted down river and into a pond area.

You gonna tell us where this is Dan?

[rico]

Here is a link that identifies all swamps\ponds in VA.
This definitely looks like a swamp, pond of some sort. Looks like water is moving and being muddy.
http://www.virginiaplaces.org/watersheds/swamps.html

[teresa]

http://members.aol.com/Mmcbs1/islanda.jpg

I found this picture of the James River. I really think it is a river they are looking for and not a pond.

[seeker]

I cut and pasted and played around a bit. I drew on some lines and outlines the head. I noticed a beam along the bottom and a hand as if someone is leaning on a beam to get a picture taken. Almost like a look-out on a hiking trail.

Then looking at the pictures again. If it's a hiking trail, it's like the first pic was taken then a couple steps and down a little for the second pic.

I think perhaps the investigators removed a person from the photo so they could focus on finding the location.

[teresa]

I think perhaps the investigators removed a person from the photo so they could focus on finding the location.

Posted by: seeker | Nov 30, 2005 2:39:28 PM

If that were so, it would be easier showing the person.