Taylor Behl

While there was no specific date or charge given, reports tonight suggest authorities will take evidence before a Grand Jury in the Taylor Behl case to seek an indictment.

Behl's mother, Janet Pelasara, told News4 that prosecutors plan to take evidence in front of the grand jury and seek an indictment. The prosecutors believe charges will be forthcoming.

Comments

[Diane]

Linda,This porn garbage that these girls are into is sad in a way as 9 times out of 10 it will come back to bite them in the butt.I know erin has said it has helped her pay for college and I am not knocking her.Her reputation is now linked with the porn and it will follow her the rest of her life.If she does not have a problem with what she is doing, and that is the kind of fame in a sense she wants than we need to respect her instead of throwing nasty insults her way, not that you are doing that. I think these girls are naive to think posing nude for the money will help their careers down the road.It won't be so "kewel" in years to come.

[teresa]

I bet Erin's parents are proud of her. Some of you say she has a great body but I bet you wold not want it to be your daughter.

[lindadanette]

Just to be clear - I did not mean to imply that they were new photos taken since - just that I'll bet my little finger she had to give permission to run it. How timely. When you venture into a dark place, your brain tells your eyes to re-focus. You begin to see things that you were blind to before. This can make for a really good crime journalist - or a depraved psycho. I guess it depends on what kind of thoughts are auto-merged with your experience of the dark.

These kids seem to have an almost unconscious need to self obliterate anything that smacks of "morality". They have been abandoned and betrayed by a society void of the safe-keeping that us boomers took for granted. They are postmodern deconstructivists and I pray that those who survive through the tearing down of what we have deemed important will be transformed into the heroic socio-architects of a brighter future. As fuzzigigi, one of the intelligent and compassionate young people involved in this drama said in a recent response:

"As far as the People and the Universe go, I was thinking along the lines of entropy. Matter is breaking down, celestial bodies drifting further an further away from each other, things swelling and collapsing. The world is becoming embalmed in toxic compounds natural processes can not longer handle.
I know these things are cyclic and the universe will ultimately "right itself". But I can't shake the feeling that we're liveing in an aquarium with a broken filter."

Or at least I couldn't when I made that post, moods subject to change without notice,

[katysmom]

I'm not sure if people here are suggesting the autopsy be done over, but that's probably not going to happen. Taylor was cremated.

Posted by: #7 | Nov 4, 2005 3:53:46 AM

If Taylor was cremated, why was there a regulation sized casket at the funeral and not an urn?

[Rick]

Luke: "People who are attracted to the macabre" These come to mind; Mary Shelly, Vincent Price, Edgar A. Poe, Bram Stoker, Stephen King, Wes Craven.......

Death holds an attraction as a mystery and makes for great literature and art it is after all a part of life. There is no other way out. Do we become desensitized? Probably, definately. I know this; in the last 30 odd years I've seen the best and worst we can do to each other and ourselves. It is no longer shocking to recover a drowning victim or a heart attack victim, even a murder victim. It becomes part of the job. This is not to say that every case is the same, some bother you, anger and sadden you. The absolute worst though are children, no matter what happens to them you can feel the breaking of hearts. I've seen guys, big, tough alpha male types who are veterans fire/ems people, cry like babies when they lost a child patient.
I imagine that no one in their right mind is completely insensitive, especially when it is someone they know. I've lost friends and aquaintances; Wow, that's really sad and there is some greiving for a while. But losing my dad knocked the wind out of me for a year. I think anyone's death, esp by murder diminishes all of us. But I suggest that we may be the ones who are morbidly going over and over a stranger's death and expecting everyone else to "feel" as lost as we do.

[absynth_minded]

"The absolute worst though are children, no matter what happens to them you can feel the breaking of hearts. I've seen guys, big, tough alpha male types who are veterans fire/ems people, cry like babies when they lost a child patient."

It was a child's negligent drowning death that made me need to take a break from medical.

I'd always been pretty good at wearing a brave face and maintaining that "professional distance" that I speak of...

That is, until I had to ride alone in the back of an ambulance for an hour to transport the body of a beautiful 3 year old girl who fell into a drainage ditch (just yards from her back yard) while her parents were busy throwing a Labor Day bash and getting shit faced.

I came damn close to knocking out her father... damn close.

[absynth_minded]

Looks like Texas tried to "One-UP" South Carolina in a friendly game of, "Who can let the more dangerous criminal escape?"

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9922969/

[Rick]

The guys in SC were captured near Hilton Head....They ordered pizza and the delivery person recognized them

[Rick]

How about the 20 year old in Albequerque, NM who killed his ex-girl friend......after he learned she was only 11?

Now how the hell does an 11 yo fool anyone about her age?

[absynth_minded]

I think it's a case of thinking with the wrong head and seeing only what you want to see...

[teresa]

"Who You'd Be Today" by Kenny Chesney (Bill Luther/Aimee Mayo)

1st Verse

Sunny days seem to hurt the most
I wear the pain like a heavy coat
I feel you everywhere I go
I see your smile, I see your face
I hear you laughin' in the rain
Still can't believe you're gone

Chorus

It ain't fair you died too young
Like a story that had just begun
But death tore the pages all away
God knows how I miss you
All the hell that I been through
Just knowin' no one could take your place
Sometimes I wonder
Who you'd be today

2nd Verse

Would you see the world, would you chase your dreams
Settle down with a family
I wonder what would you name your babies
Somedays the sky's so blue
I feel like I can talk to you
And I know it might sound crazy

(Repeat Chorus)

Lame Bridge

Today, today, today
Today, today, today

3rd Verse

Sunny days seem to hurt the most
I wear the pain like a heavy coat
The only thing that give me hope
Is I know
I'll see you again some day
Someday, someday

I can't help but think of Taylor when I hear this song.

[absynth_minded]

Not a bad song.. wonderful sentiment, but a bit of cheese in the lyrics.

Thanks for sharing :)

[Rick]

teresa: Taylor is one of a long line of ghosts I think about when I hear it. Great song, puts a lump in the throat.

[teresa]

Not a bad song.. wonderful sentiment, but a bit of cheese in the lyrics.

Thanks for sharing :)

Posted by: absynth_minded | Nov 4, 2005 12:18:59 PM

Have you heard the song or you just read the lyrics? If you have not heard the song, the lyrics would be a bit cheesy with all the TODAYS in it. I love the song.

[absynth_minded]

Songs have a way of doing that... Well, some songs. Others make you cry for other reasons...lol

[teresa]

teresa: Taylor is one of a long line of ghosts I think about when I hear it. Great song, puts a lump in the throat.

Posted by: Rick | Nov 4, 2005 12:19:41 PM

I have other songs for my ghosts but with this one about would you have a family and so on, it hits me for young people. Taylor jumps in my mind when I hear it. I lost my sister when she was 38 due to a car accident and a lot of songs hit me.

[absynth_minded]

I have not heard the song.. So, yes, I am judging based on some of the more generic sounding lyrics.

[absynth_minded]

But, that's the beauty of music... we are all touched by different things for different reasons. Music is the soundtrack to our lives.

[Rick]

Here's one for that song. There was some tv show last night talking about JonBenet Ramsey and how everything has just been dropped. Frankly, I've always thought the brother did it and the parents helped cover it up. Spouses may lie for each other until one gets mad at the other but parents will take a childs secrets to the grave. Anyway, they pointed out that the Ramseys refused to testify to the GJ based on the 5th amendment. Now consider that your 6 year old has been brutally murdered by an "intruder". What the hell, could you be incriminated for? Unless of course you actually know who did it. There's been speculation that Patsy was pimping the little girl.

[absynth_minded]

I've always felt the same about that case, Rick... the parents know something or they are protecting their son.

I have a similar belief about the OJ Simpson case.

[Rick]

AM: Do you also think it was O.J.'s son? That's how the dna would match.

[tomkat]

Whats more dangerous? Being a police or a firefighter?

[absynth_minded]

AM: Do you also think it was O.J.'s son? That's how the dna would match.

Posted by: Rick | Nov 4, 2005 12:54:48 PM

Bingo...

That and I don't think he ever got over the fact that a White woman broke up his parent's marriage.

[Rick]

"Whats more dangerous? Being a police or a firefighter?"

Police deaths hover around 125 a year while Firemen account about 105 a year. Makes them pretty close. Why?

[teresa]

I thought thoe oldest son was cleared of the Ramsey case. I can't believe that case has not been solved.

As for OJ, he did it himself.

[Rick]

Was the nine year old, Burke, the one who "seemed dazed and confused" (drugged) when he was interviewed by LE the oldest?

[teresa]

Was the nine year old, Burke, the one who "seemed dazed and confused" (drugged) when he was interviewed by LE the oldest?

Posted by: Rick | Nov 4, 2005 1:37:02 PM

Mr. Ramsey had a son from another marriage I believe who was older, late teens.

[Rick]

OK, well I was/am suspecting the one who lived in the house. The nine year old. But with some stuff I've read lately I am intrigued that mommy may have "rented" her to one of the many Boulder pedophiles.

[teresa]

OK, well I was/am suspecting the one who lived in the house. The nine year old. But with some stuff I've read lately I am intrigued that mommy may have "rented" her to one of the many Boulder pedophiles.

Posted by: Rick | Nov 4, 2005 1:42:24 PM

Where she was found and the reports tells me it was someone that knew that house. They said you would have never known that room was there unless you knew the house well.

[justathought]

Since the day that I first heard about it I have always thought that it was the oldest son that did not live there but came and stayed with them some.

He had just been there for a visit not long (a few days at the most) before the murder

[absynth_minded]

Both cases suffered from EXTREME tunnel vision.

[Midwest Anon]

I was looking for new info on the case - when I, unfortunately came across this. Apparently Ms Crabill is enjoying her 15 minutes of fame. Someone will undoubtedly accuse me of "exploiting" an innocent person, I just think we need to look at the realities of the "scene" that Taylor was drawn into. While this is not technically "porno", clearly Ms Crabill posed for it and gave permission for it to be published less than a month after her name hit the news. The really scarey thing, to me, is that this is considered "kewel" by so many "suicide girls"

http://www.wadimagazine.com/centerfold.asp

Posted by: lindadanette | Nov 4, 2005 10:18:36 AM

Notice the fist band on the marquee is "Plastik Wrap"

[tomkat]

list of the most dangerous jobs in the USA.
http://www.menstuff.org/issues/byissue/dangerousjobs.htm#mostdangerousjobs

[tomkat]

note this is from Richmond.
http://www.wadimagazine.com/centerfold.asp
I had heard there is growing porno scene in Richmond. This would seem to confirm that.

[Midwest Anon]

What about we chemists??????

[Rick]

Whew, glad to see that fire fighting isn't even as dangerous as working the check out line at Wallyworld

[Midwest Anon]

Here's a thought in answer to someone's question about our cultural morbidity and fascination with death:
What's the symbol for Christianity? An execution.

[Rick]

Chemists? As long as you don't blow yourself, me and a cop up in a meth lab how dangerous could it be?

[Rick]

MA: I think it has more to do with the REASON for the "execution" than the execution

[Midwest Anon]

Rick,
From the Latin "cruciare", "to torture".
I wasn't suggesting the meaning of the religion is all about death, but certaily when one gazes on a brutally executed man every Sunday, there's a message that's being transmitted there.

And chemists risk their lives daily in a lab (I was once evac'd after someone spilled acetonitrile and toluene together ...which can make TNT, or TriNitroToluene). We worked with carcinogens, mutagens, heavy metals, etc., all of which not only CAN but DO cause death. Hence my leaving the lab at 28, never to look back. I still can't believe I did it for ten years....the naivete of youth....

[Midwest Anon]

What about porn stars? Bet their risk of death is high, from sexually transmitted disease, drugs, stalkers.

[Midwest Anon]

Rick, you'd get a kick out of this-my old group leader when I worked in a pharmaceutical lab, was a volunteer part-time fire fighter. He retired to go full time in the haz mat division, because it was less stressful than the lab. No joke. He's also a little loony, but a brilliant chemist.

[Rick]

MA: Realy, I was joking about Lab folks. I realize there are extreme hazards, esp in pharm labs.

Also...we protestants look at an EMPTY cross every Sunday cause they took him down and never put him back up.

[tomkat]

ma the cross is not about crucifixtion. it is about resurrection.

[Midwest Anon]

LOL Rick,
I was raised Episcopal-we're still waffling.

I had to throw you a little crap-warmly, from insane risk-taker, to insane risk-taker ;P

I'm a little defensive about my lab work, I guess! Actually I gave it up for good after a biodefense project cooincided with my engagement. I thought I'd want to live a long time with my new love.

[Midwest Anon]

Tomkat- read above: I was not commenting on the mythology or the thology of Christianity, rather on the symbology--there's a big difference, intellectually as well as spiritually.

[tomkat]

the symbol is a cross. not an execution.

[tomkat]

back on topic. sex in car. strangulation by seat belt. maybe no sex just strangulation. bf had something he wanted to try. strangulation is the most obvious. since she was so young and naive she might have gone along with it at first. he got carried away and did not stop. horrible to think this is what some people are doing to get off.

[Midwest Anon]

Tomkat, pull yourself out of your belief structure and look at the reality of what I'm saying. The symbol is of a man being executed. The "symbol" is of his death for our sins, etc. I was being literal.

I agree with you wholeheartedly about the strangulation. And also agree that it's hoffifying.

[Rick]

"Horrible"? Man, asphyixiation is the least of unhealthy crap people are doing. What's even worse is that pre-teens are becoming sexually active in middle school.