Natalee Holloway: The Joe Mammana Angle

What a sad part of the side show this has become. I've several points to make here, hopefully you'll stick with it, if you're interested. I'll begin with some new material from her blog - more likely to attract male trolls with her picture, than anyone looking for an intelligent, principled discussion.

Give the guy a chance! He's trying to do something good...why bring up his past, when it has NOTHING TO DO WITH NATALEE?

Beth will be on Dr. Phil tomorrow...I am waiting for her schedule to clear up so I can meet her and Joe. I'm very excited to be involved in something so important.

Excited? EXCITED?? Let me get this straight ... a bright young life is missing and presumed dead, you're about to get a chance to meet what one should assume is her still grieving Mother and a hate monger and you're compelled to tell the world you're EXCITED? Is there nothing wrong with that picture to you?

You're right about one thing, sweety - THAT has nothing to do with Natalee. Don't they have a prison system in Indiana .... maybe even a death row? I would expect someone with your intelligence and sensitivity would just about wet her panties for the chance to meet a prominent serial killer, or, you know, someone important like THAT. Exactly how many marriage proposals have you mailed addressed To Whom It May Concern / care of San Quentin, I wonder?

Final Note:

Joe wanted me to let all the "anonymous" people who have bad mouthed him on my blog to know they don't have balls and are cowards because they can't use their real names.

N/A

I will get some exclusive information regarding the boycott successes thus far and the latest news on the case that you won't hear on TV anywhere. Joe has insisted that he will only give inside information on the case to me or Rita Cosby from MSNBC. So, as for blogging goes...this is the place to be in the upcoming weeks.

LOL Could you BE any more transparent? Do you realize what a caricature of an information provider you look like with such a statement? Damn, I hope he's paying you some green, too ... if you're going to so blatantly whore yourself for the cause, you might as well at least profit from it.

Now, from my email from her today:

... I AM THE ONE that posted Joe's thoughts and comments on my blog. Don't shoot the messenger.

Again, it's pretty easy to see where your emphasis rests from your use of caps. You claim to be educated. Did they teach you enough English to distinguish between the words messenger and advocate? Or did cheer leading camp get in the way of your studies?

Joe has chosen me to be his outlet to the Internet.  I don't know why.  I am just a midwestern girl who started a blog for fun in July, posted A LOT about Natalee from day one, and now it's turned into a circus! 

Well, halle-fa-freakin-lujah, Hon ... and I always thought people who believe Jesus anointed them as the chosen one were crazy. You have it all over those folks, kiddo - at least Joe Mammana might not wear sandals. There's something to be said for that, I suppose. And precisely how do you suppose it became a circus, or can't you figure that one out from your perspective there, trying to crowd yourself into the center ring? BTW, do you only get off on the guys in floppy footwear, or does every clown turn you on? Pass the frickin' popcorn - a circus, indeed!

I care deeply about the Natalee Holloway case and I happen to agree with Joe M's brutal honesty in his desire to help missing people.  I respect people with BALLS.

Okay, we've established that your blond, simple-minded, hot for BALLS and something of a cheer leader. So, please pardon me for thinking your Mother's biggest challenge in high school was keeping the back of your cheer uniform clean every time the newest bad boy in town came along.

I also believe that people can change. He's obviously been rehabilitated and has proven to the country of his dedication to doing the right thing and his mission of helping missing persons. If you look at the facts, there's no denying it. He always tells me, "It's not how you start the race, it's how you finish it."

If you were any more dense, you'd have to strap fog lights on your thighs just to get laid on a sunny day, Good Lord. Here is your old Joe Mammana:

PHILADELPHIA - A man who has contributed thousands of dollars in rewards to the Citizens Crime Commission of Delaware Valley for catching killers and kidnappers has a lengthy criminal background, according to a published report.

Joseph Mammana, 44, has spent time behind bars for charges including aggravated assault, drug possession, fraud, car theft and identity theft ... He served eight months in Montgomery County prison for striking his wife with a countertop in 1991, when he was 32. Mammana also was jailed in Florida and New Jersey on drug and fraud charges, as well as for the theft of cars, coats, and the identities of two people in the 1980s and 1990s.

Mammana has made more than $130,000 in public pledges to the crime commission over the past decade, ... At the time of his contributions, he was wanted on warrants in Bucks County and Florida, the paper reported.

Last month, Charlotte County, Florida, recalled its 1992 warrant for a probation violation. On Tuesday, the Bucks County 1988 warrant was recalled after Mammana surrendered to sheriff's deputies. An April 19 trial date was set.

That warrant was issued after Mammana, a competitive bodybuilder, allegedly failed to pay $550 for a weightlifter's belt from Prestige Saddle & Harness of Quakertown.

"If he truly wants to be a good guy, he can start with me," Prestige owner Karen Porter said after being told of Mammana's philanthropy.

He holds a mortgage to a house in Lower Makefield, Bucks County, but his name isn't on the deed. He owns three businesses in Pennsylvania and one in New Jersey, but they do not apparently exist at their registered addresses.

One company, Paris Cosmetics, is registered at the home address of Mammana's mother, who said her son does not sell cosmetics from her home. Hope Mammana said her son turned his life around but she would not comment further.

In 1988, Mammana was charged in Montgomery County with raping a girlfriend, but the charge was dropped when he pleaded guilty to harassment. He received a suspended sentence.

In 1989 in Sarasota County, Florida, Mammana and another man tried to buy a Corvette using someone else's identity, according to the Sarasota Herald-Tribune. He spent three months in prison.

In 1990, he returned to the Philadelphia area and married his second wife, stating his job on his marriage application as steelworker. He then was ordered to pay restitution and serve three years' probation for bouncing a check at Zinman Furs in New Jersey two years earlier.

In 1991, he was charged in Montgomery County with opening a checking account in another man's name, and in Burlington County, N.J., with stealing three cars from a Nissan dealership.

That October, he pleaded guilty and served eight months for aggravated assault of his then-wife, Lisa, and for possession with intent to deliver steroids.

"He threatened to kill me, and he threatened to scar my face," she testified. "He threatened to have my father's house burnt down. He threatened to have my daughter raped and blinded."

When she said she wanted a divorce, Mammana tore a countertop from its hinges, struck her over the head with it and put a knife to her throat, she testified.

He later served one year for the car thefts in Burlington County.

And here is your new Joe Mammana:

My mother's tears are of sympathy. Mine, however ARE NOT – mine are of pure anger... I want the cowardly PUNKS who hurt her to know that THEY STILL HAVE ME TO CONTEND WITH – and I am a problem that NOBODY wants. ... It's not how you start the race; it's how you finish it.

Several of my associates are in Aruba as we speak. Within the next five days, several more will join them. ... I want Americans to know that they are vulnerable to our enemies from all over the world while in Aruba, ... I have vowed on World television, to Beth Twitty, to myself, and MOST IMPORTANTLY, to my own mother, that I WILL NOT GIVE UP until this case is resolved to MY satisfaction. Screw closure. Screw justice. I believe in REVENGE.

These three pieces of TRASH have a Sicilian on their tail who has arms and eyes that can reach and see AROUND THE WORLD. They can run, but they can't hide. I want them and the Aruban government to look at me and know that they are out of their league.

Those are not the words of a rehabilitated man. They are the words of an angry, hate-filled individual gloaming onto a good cause in an attempt to either purge his own demons, or shroud his own troubling outlook with some legitimacy.

The search for Natalee Holloway, for any intelligent, caring individual, was and is about justice. There is nothing just in this man's rants. There is no law in his would be good works, except what he himself might desire it to be as he hides what appears to be a hateful, unenlightened, disturbed and disordered personality behind the skirt of any real concept of Justice.

At it's best, it's schoolyard bluster - and at it's worst, it's criminal. And you're proud of posting that, somehow? Frankly, as a fellow blogger, that's what's so offensive to me.

If you get off having some Italian thug with a few dollars defining justice for you, you would have loved Italy in the 30's and 40's.

The world stamped out that evil and if you, or the Mother of Natalee Holloway had any sense at all, they wouldn't allow such an individual to use them to play out his self-centered, attention-seeking, maladjusted neurosis. You were likely better off back in the day when you were under the bleachers playing genital gymnastics with some kid who got cut from the football team for not showering with the team.

Rah! Rah! Rah! Welcome to the blogosphere and best wishes. Let me know if you're ever down on your luck, I'm sure I can round up some angry thug with a little spare change to choose you for something.

Comments

[cindi in pa]

I wasnt sure if its ok, but hope so. if not please let me know

Posted by: VC | Nov 17, 2005 3:40:38 AM

Oh, you don't have to worry about copy write on a blog. Everything you type can be traced to the registered account. How do you think all these crimes are solved now a days.

[VC]

Well I didnt want to be rude to Dan, but it was one of the best commentaries on the thug ive read yet, let alone the people who seem to think hes wonderful

[letsbefair]

What can one except from an egg dealer, Joe looks like a short shit in his pictures, Napoleon complex with this body builing and steroids, probably a 5.5 punk. Crack like his eggs if you slap his silly face one time.

Posted by: Big Jim O'Leary | Nov 17, 2005 3:33:14 AM

Poor Michelle. Yes, Joe Mammana is short. That's what his boyfriends said about him in prison.

(The side effects on his genitals from taking steroids)

[Dutchguy]

I don't know Joe. He's not on the 'news' on this side of the world. And I doubt he has eyes and arms here in Holland. But from what I'm reading, he might become your next senator or president.

[angela]

Great post Dan!!

[Janna]

I am 18 years old blonde college girl. I would want to give my biggest kiss to Joe M. Joe is my light of love. I dream of him some instance. Just to wait how it turns out with Michelle. I am excited also, and also very tingy, can't stand on my feet. Many of my girls said Joe is Rambo, I love it. Anyway, do what you can do. Help Beth find Natalee before Christmas, and welcome Natalee home. That's what we all want to help. Aruba is a dead weight. Joe is going to overturn it and uncover every piece of corruptions that the Aruba governemt been conceiving, and rescue Natalee.

[hardyandtiny]

"more likely to attract male trolls with her picture, than anyone looking for an intelligent, principled discussion."

jesus, hahaha

[hardyandtiny]

The Michelle blog has to be a bait. That can't be real. Dan, someone is just playing a game, I wouldn't take the bait. I should get into screenplaying this thing. This is great stuff.

haha, Balls...hey uze aint got-da ballz. midwestern girl begins to take on some philadephia mafia guy's attitude and goes as far to incorporate his slang.

[hardyandtiny]

"Those are not the words of a rehabilitated man. They are the words of an angry, hate-filled individual gloaming onto a good cause in an attempt to either purge his own demons, or shroud his own troubling outlook with some legitimacy."

That's an impressive analysis.

[reality]

this joe m. is a real jackass if you read his history ,

to those who do not know what a jackass means;
it means ; the ass of a dondkey !!!

ha, hi, ja !!
no wonder beth is with him!!!

[RICK]

What else can Joey M. say? He's off steroids now and has become a good boy. It happens. People do turn their collars around and hear their own confessions. Who cares? Just another spoke in the wheel waiting to break, and when they're all broken the rim gives in and falls flat. Beth Twitty is out of her mind. This is another show for the public to keep their eye on, as there is no other interesting news. More ratings? You can put all these peeps, in a bag, shake it up and nothing comes out. Aruba will survive, young girls will continue to go there, screw their brains out and Joey M. will die someday like the rest of us.

[donnaanna]

I am 18 years old blonde college girl. I would want to give my biggest kiss to Joe M. Joe is my light of love. I dream of him some instance. Just to wait how it turns out with Michelle. I am excited also, and also very tingy, can't stand on my feet. Many of my girls said Joe is Rambo, I love it. Anyway, do what you can do. Help Beth find Natalee before Christmas, and welcome Natalee home. That's what we all want to help. Aruba is a dead weight. Joe is going to overturn it and uncover every piece of corruptions that the Aruba governemt been conceiving, and rescue Natalee.

Posted by: Janna | Nov 17, 2005 5:49:30 AM

Janna, big mouth Joe has not offered to take on the Aruban government. That would take courage and intelligence. He has offered to beat up 3 young men. That is total cowardace. Hopefully he as full of hot air as he seems to be, because if he does hurt those guys, he deserves twice whatever he dishes out. What he is doing is illegal. What he is threatening to do is worse. He's no rambo, so far all he has taken on is defenseless woman and children. He is a TOTAL loser!!!

[like duh]

I come here to talk about the Natalee Holloway case.
All you say is true, but there is a limit for me, personally, I come to this blog to talk about this case.

Posted by: hardyandtiny | Nov 17, 2005 8:09:41 AM

Great. Thanks for talking about yourself.

[kadie]

Dan - Im disappointed in you. Your comments, your
language, everything. When i first found this site i thought you were a decent person but Im seeing more and more hostile and demeaning comments about many people (Beth, car salesman,
and now this Michelle person) that have no purpose but to hurt people. Words have power and
you are abusing that. I think you are way out of your element now and perhaps would benefit from some professional counseling to manage your emotions and anger better. Whatever personal problems you are obviously having should not be taken out on others. You have crossed the line too many times. I am no longer a fan.

[mom]

Damn... Dan is showing his true colors. Looks like his blue balls are swelling good going Michelle.

[RealityBased]

LOL..Michelle says this and then tries to beat Dan up for what he posts...ROFLMAO

One of the most common things that I hear about blogging is "not everyone should have a printing press". I think that's dead wrong. Everyone should have a printing press, learn to use it, and start telling the world what you think.

http://michellesimonsen.blogspot.com/2005/11/should-everyone-have-right-to-printing.html

[CitizenDick]

Hey at least Joe M. is REFORMED and REHABILITATED. Unlike you. I see no hypocrisy in my decision to back Joe for his efforts because of his past 'bad acts' against women. It seems to me that he's done his time and is trying to do something decent by helping women now.

Whatever. Go back to your negativity hole.

Posted by: Michelle | Nov 16, 2005 11:35:50 PM

You're going to be disappointed Michelle. According to the Philly Mag article, Joe has a preference for dark haired Latin women. Maybe with a dye job...

[cadali]

Once again, Dan, you prove that you need to degrade a woman to get your jollies. Another notch on your belt, I guess.

Joe M. may talk tough about criminals and may not care about sounding politically correct, but he puts his money where his mouth is. I imagine he's worked hard for his money, too.

I'd much rather have someone like Joe on my side, if I (God forbid) found myself in a position of missing a loved one, than a jealous misogynist like you.

[mom]

Have you all seen Michelle pictures? If so, that will explain why Dan gets so upset about her. She was probably the girl he always the hots for that never gave him any attention in school. Let him vent... it is his site.

[lurk]

I have been following this blog since the beginning.

With the unnecessary comments made in Dan's "criticism" - I will never again load this site, for it is now just a total load.

You can criticize and attack what somebody chooses to express on their blog, without having to attack their sex life, which I am sure you know nothing about.

VERY rude. I encourage any self-respecting female to leave this piece of shit blog in the dust. There are better, more professional journalists out there.

[hardyandtiny]

I come here to talk about the Natalee Holloway case.
All you say is true, but there is a limit for me, personally, I come to this blog to talk about this case.

Posted by: hardyandtiny | Nov 17, 2005 8:09:41 AM

Great. Thanks for talking about yourself.

Posted by: like duh | Nov 17, 2005 8:19:04 AM

you're welcome

[kin]

Dan..You began by attacking this person's looks. Was this cheap shot necessary? And then, just to make your point, you called her out as a "slut". You focused so much on degrading her sexually that whatever your point was it got lost in the muck. IOW! If your point ever was important I missed it. I see others were able to get past it and they got it. That' great and I'm sure that's all that counts but the ones who share my POV shouldn't be brushed off so rudely.

[ben]

Dan,I'm dissappointed

[mom]

I am actually glad of Dan crude post b/c it has led me to Michelle's site. It tickles me pink that Dan is being slapped in the face by his bloggers for his rude comments he made early. I know as well as everyone else that is it just envy that is making him do it. He is jealous that he is not in the "inner circle" with the Holloway/Twitty family and that leads to his bashing of Beth and anyone that might have a heart and feelings when it comes to a desparate parent looking for their child. He is ruthless, cold and malice when things do not go his way. Not to mention very immature but it is his site ... as the song says "it's my party and I'll cry if I want to"

[berry]

I'm not sure there is any point to griping about whatshername - but there is a lesson to be learned documenting who Joe Mammana really is - or as he would like the world to believe - was.

Can the Twittys explain why they have allowed this felon to become a spokesperson for their missing daughter? Who on earth is advising these folks?

When the family embraces a felon with money and allows that person to abusively bluster in the media as their grassroots representative- there's a real credibility problem. And I do not blame ALE if they have an interest in pursuing that oddball association.

JOE MUST GO.

For the sake of Natalee and the seemingly bleak potential for a resolution to this case, get rid of this person. He is a blight. He is a blowhard who has a loooooong criminal history and the Twittys should have never, ever associated with him.

[tuyvnsurvivor]

Very poor of you Dan. However, I notice you write in a style allowing yourself many escapes, rarely making a committment, or making it to brave. Remind me of a punk once cheering me and another to punch eachother in a square-off about-to-fist-a-cuff...moments later he fell. For irony only.

With the low class you show, wish I could say you make no good points, but regretably you do. Mixed in your coverwords, "escapes", and confusement of just what are you saying verses others you make a point or two. But are you sure you want to be growing smaller anyway?

Dan, I doubt there a significant following of conservatives willing to blame lighter skins for everything wrong and hair styles. Besides, I have learned that in this area of the mind, *if casting blame to the one, the one too gets all the credit*...pure to fairness. Give that some thought, as it could take a few days.

[Outraged]

Dan-
I have been reading here awhile and I have been thinking how digusting you are but this is the lowest of lows. Not only do you owe Michelle an apology for your crude comments but you also owe your readers an apology. Also, I wish you would stop posting your negative comments towards the Twitty/Holloway family. Why not just take the topic off your blog? If you can't say anything nice don't say anything at all.

[cindi in pa]

Joe M. may talk tough about criminals and may not care about sounding politically correct, but he puts his money where his mouth is. I imagine he's worked hard for his money, too.

Posted by: cadali | Nov 17, 2005 9:35:11 AM

Can you spell inheritance? His daddy had money, his daddy got him his job hatching eggs. If he was such a hard worker, why did he impersonate people to cash checks, buy cars.

[cindi in pa]

Maybe with a dye job...

Posted by: CitizenDick | Nov 17, 2005 9:27:34 AM

that would be DIE JOB. Joe would like any woman that stants up to his s^it, dead.

[flightoffancy]

I just hope Michelle does not get her brains frappe'd by any countertops. Once a violent male, always a violent male.

Posted by: newswatcher | Nov 17, 2005 12:30:28 AM

I think that is precisely what Michelle needs, a good brain bashing, maybe she will achieve a little common sense in the process. How Dan puts up with posters like Portland, Scott, Jamie, and numberous others is beyond me. Obviously he is a true journalist that believes in FREEDOM OF SPEECH, unlike the sick and twisted Michelle and her supporters.

[Shell]

Wow, it's obvious that this "MICHELLE SAYS SO" is part of Joe M.'s blonde harem. Well, we know now that he likes blondes. I noticed Mrs. T's hair is blonder these days, I guess to please him. Michelle who likes his balls (we bet you do, sweety) can't wait to meet him! Ooooh, what an honor! NOT. I hope he doesn't hit her over the head with a countertop, or rapes her, like he's been known to do when his girlfriends don't find him attractive anymore.

What a moron.

Thanks Dan for your humorous and satisfying satire on this ignorant little groupie who's hot for a common thug. She sounds like she wants to do him and Twitty in a three way. Some women will sell themselves for a hit of crack. Looks like Michelle says so is headed down that road.

[CindyLouWho]

Wow Dan...
I don't know what has happenned here a Riehl World View. I don't care what you think of Beth or any of her supporters. I appreciate that you have allowed people to state their views on YOUR blog. I don't know anything about Michelle and had never heard of her blog. Lately I have only had the time to read your main page. After reading this thread and your comments my jaw dropped. I find your comments totally offensive. I thought you were a decent man. Michelle or any other female blogger, reader etc. do not deserve this kind of treatment. I have supported you on many issues...IHOP, Psychobabes, seedy etc. You know I have been reading here for a long time (June). I have seen many shifts in the views of your readers and posters. Time has changed the feelings and views of many in regard to the Natalie Holloway case and that's ok. But I think after this I will say goodbye. I don't think I can have respect for someone who is so disrespectful of women, no matter what she has done. Please, I hope you will refrain from a nasty comeback.

[Shell]

Dan-
I have been reading here awhile and I have been thinking how digusting you are but this is the lowest of lows. Not only do you owe Michelle an apology for your crude comments but you also owe your readers an apology. Also, I wish you would stop posting your negative comments towards the Twitty/Holloway family. Why not just take the topic off your blog? If you can't say anything nice don't say anything at all.

Posted by: Outraged | Nov 17, 2005 11:30:12 AM
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Why don't YOU stop reading if it offends you. I love how freedom of speech is only applicable to some people when it's THEIR opinion. There's nothing good to say about Joe M. who is a common thug, and there's nothing good to say about a little ho' who wants to do him. It's a free Internet. Take a hike Outraged. Dan is a HERO. People like you, who want to control other people's thoughts and actions, are fascists.

[killerinstincts]

Dan you are so pathetic, a cry baby and you should be writing for the Star....

[jessie]

i simply do not understand why you are constantly bashing the twitty/holloway family ... have you ever lost a child dan ? have any clue how that feels ? if you ever lost a child would you not be willing to do anything to find that child ? it would take an extremely sick screwball to PRETEND that their child is gone... as far as the joe m guy -- i dont care too much for him either but could you not understand why someone, not involved in the case whatsoever, would be excited about going to help with the case (michelle) -- i didnt see anything the blog regarding her finding him hot or wanting to screw him -- just because we get excited about something doesnt instantly revert to sex dan -- the comments you made to her, a fellow blogger, were uncalled for .... i read your blog every day and i have to say this is the first time you really shocked me. if you are so irritated by the holloway case why not take it off the blog ? maybe you need some antidepressants ?

[cindi in pa]

Dan you are so pathetic, a cry baby and you should be writing for the Star....

Posted by: killerinstincts | Nov 17, 2005 12:41:31 PM

Let's see. Dan decided to add some humor to the story of a blonde blogger who supports a womanizer and he's a cry baby? As a female, I take great offense that Michelle would even be supporting such a person. This guy has two x wives and an x girlfriend, who as late as June 2004 stated they are afraid of him/won't let him know where they work.
It is also offensive that BT would take support from the same kind of person, she claims harmed her daughter!

[sue]

I just kinda wonder why any of you are concerned with who Beth takes up with , let alone Michelle.
do you all have halo's on your head? I think not

[festicles]

Meanwhile, an 18 year old girl from Alabama is still missing.

[sjaan]

Wooooohoooooooooo Dan!!

You Rock!!

[falcon]

Dan: You seemed hesitant to list Joe Mammana's views on the kidnapping and rape of Natalee Holloway. I'm glad you did. He has expressed a voice reflecting the fury of many of us who are using whatever resources we have available to get Natalee back. If you think Joe's resources are unorthodox you won't want to hear about some things others are using.

So you don't like the way Joseph expresses himself. Let me tell you something. We now live in Geiorge Orwell's 1984 where white is black and black is white, lies are truth, truth is lies. The four freedoms are shot. Freedom of religon has become persecution of jews and christians. The chief justice of the Alabama Supreme Court just got fired for having the effrontery to hold that it is legal to have the 10 commandments in a public place. Reporters go to jail for telling the truth and protecting sources. Pay attention. We've almost lost the country.

So now comes Joe Mammana expressing a politically incorrect view that he disapproves of people who steal and rape your neighbor's daughter. Well stop sniveling. The next daughter to go might be yours. Don't think so? Watch TV. Read newspapers. Read about the border town in the USA that had 31 kidnappings in one year. Doesn't bother you? OK. Read about the Mexican town where Americans go to party, where 33 American women citizens were kidnapped in one night. This doesn't bother you either but Joe Mammana does, right?

Let me tell you something. We have 150,000 Americans in Iraq using resounces that make Joe's friends look like choirboys. Were it not for gutsy people like that we wouldn't have what's left of this country. So they play a little rough. You think enemies don't?

No sympathy for Natalee? No sympathy for Joe? Have it your way you heartless gang of cowards.

[SL-Gloria]

A social behaviour can be indicative of the character structure of members of a group, which has developed as the result of the basic experiences and life styles common to that group. (Erich Fromm, 1942, Character and Social Process)

The social group or community that Mrs. Twitty has chosen to seek refuge (“The Ruffians”) has given her perceived elevated status and dignity, "enemies", and the "mechanisms of escape" from alienation and powerlessness through authoritarian submission. This community provides Mrs. Twitty a sense of empowerment and in face of frustration she can vent anger and hatred, as well as direct violence and aggression towards those chosen by other group member as their primary target i. e. Aruban authorities, Aruban people. (The "Carnival Character" of the Present Age. Lauren Langman).

Jug, if not a ruffian, behaves as one. But he is a small time, townie strong man. Jossy Mansur and Joe Mammana represent “la crème de la crème” of the ruffian community, which use Mrs. Twitty so that they can present a façade that symbolizes all that they are not. They use her, her daughter and her ordeal to “launder” their personal character before international audiences. Mrs. Twitty uses them to soothe her powerlessness and pain. In terms of social and psychological dependencies, it’s a Win/Win deal.

[a..incanada]

Is this the same Michelle that also sounds like the one who used to post as Michelle(Diedra) and Michelle(Deidra) etc etc from Colombia? Now she's in law? Excited about Joe Mamanna CHOOSING her, wow, wow, wow, sounds like someone else wants to get clobbered.
Dan your post was great!! Liars need to be addressed!

[MrsLevy]

Whoa! Check out the choppers on that Michelle broad. Joe better watch his member.

MrsLevy - Queen of the sluts

[Gator]

Dan, what happened to you? I remember over the summer I first heard about you by seeing you on Fox News. I checked out your site, you consistently had news others didn't and I thought it was great. Then somewhere along the way, you turned and essentially began to

Watch your language, Gator - and don't tell me speaking out about Joe M is attacking the Holloway family. If you want to sell out your sense of fairness or justice to every family with a missing child, than you have no sense of justice. That doesn't put one in a very good position to lecture in my view.

[wreck]

To me,I am not bothered that Dan has taken a different opinion on the case -- it is his right and his blog. I agree with gator that Dan used to have new things and insights we did not see anywhere else. Anymore; all I see is hateful opinions about the personalities in the case. There is no more effort to find new facts or explore other theories. JMO --- I think Dan needs to expand his circle of sources on the island.
Everything he gets is second hand.

[CindyLouWho]

The same language Dan used to ban people for are now written by him on his main page.
See Ya

[Dan]

There is no more effort to find new facts or explore other theories

You are kidding me, right wreck? Seriously. Do you realize that you havent heard oen bit of new "news" about thsi case from the MSM in two months? What would you have me do - say I had a call from her in Mexico because it might attract readers? Call for a boycott yet not pursue the legitimate means of logging a complaint because itwill draw attention?

If that is what represents a new development, you likely wont see any here. The fact is, there is no new news in this case, hasnt been in months.

[wreck]

I will agree with you that MSM has not covered this case since the first 2 days. The only thing you report now is that "there is no evidence." You used to delve more deeply into suspicions. Now, I only see you bitching about the people involved. There was a time you would try to get to the bottom of new angles on the case. Now, I just don't see that.
Dave, is stating to the discussion shows that he has a very solid "witness" (which is being ignored by ALE) -- why don't you make any effort to dig anything up from this? This is the "straw that broke the camel's back" for Dave regarding the boycott. I would think you would be all over this, instead you just continue to harp that there is no evidence. I just think you are getting stubborn. I really don't enjoy coming on here and questioning you (I do like you and your blog) -- I just don't get the anger.

[Gina]

Dan,

I really liked the fog lights line !

[Dan]

I just don't get the anger.

well, perhaps it's frustration to some extent. There's nothing for me to explore, wreck. Frankly, no one on either side of this is making sense as far as I can tell - from Ala to Aruba ALE. nothing I have been hearing is worth passing on. Just talk talk talk with no proof on anything, or anything the least bit substantial from either side.