Natalee Holloway: The Joe Mammana Angle

What a sad part of the side show this has become. I've several points to make here, hopefully you'll stick with it, if you're interested. I'll begin with some new material from her blog - more likely to attract male trolls with her picture, than anyone looking for an intelligent, principled discussion.

Give the guy a chance! He's trying to do something good...why bring up his past, when it has NOTHING TO DO WITH NATALEE?

Beth will be on Dr. Phil tomorrow...I am waiting for her schedule to clear up so I can meet her and Joe. I'm very excited to be involved in something so important.

Excited? EXCITED?? Let me get this straight ... a bright young life is missing and presumed dead, you're about to get a chance to meet what one should assume is her still grieving Mother and a hate monger and you're compelled to tell the world you're EXCITED? Is there nothing wrong with that picture to you?

You're right about one thing, sweety - THAT has nothing to do with Natalee. Don't they have a prison system in Indiana .... maybe even a death row? I would expect someone with your intelligence and sensitivity would just about wet her panties for the chance to meet a prominent serial killer, or, you know, someone important like THAT. Exactly how many marriage proposals have you mailed addressed To Whom It May Concern / care of San Quentin, I wonder?

Final Note:

Joe wanted me to let all the "anonymous" people who have bad mouthed him on my blog to know they don't have balls and are cowards because they can't use their real names.

N/A

I will get some exclusive information regarding the boycott successes thus far and the latest news on the case that you won't hear on TV anywhere. Joe has insisted that he will only give inside information on the case to me or Rita Cosby from MSNBC. So, as for blogging goes...this is the place to be in the upcoming weeks.

LOL Could you BE any more transparent? Do you realize what a caricature of an information provider you look like with such a statement? Damn, I hope he's paying you some green, too ... if you're going to so blatantly whore yourself for the cause, you might as well at least profit from it.

Now, from my email from her today:

... I AM THE ONE that posted Joe's thoughts and comments on my blog. Don't shoot the messenger.

Again, it's pretty easy to see where your emphasis rests from your use of caps. You claim to be educated. Did they teach you enough English to distinguish between the words messenger and advocate? Or did cheer leading camp get in the way of your studies?

Joe has chosen me to be his outlet to the Internet.  I don't know why.  I am just a midwestern girl who started a blog for fun in July, posted A LOT about Natalee from day one, and now it's turned into a circus! 

Well, halle-fa-freakin-lujah, Hon ... and I always thought people who believe Jesus anointed them as the chosen one were crazy. You have it all over those folks, kiddo - at least Joe Mammana might not wear sandals. There's something to be said for that, I suppose. And precisely how do you suppose it became a circus, or can't you figure that one out from your perspective there, trying to crowd yourself into the center ring? BTW, do you only get off on the guys in floppy footwear, or does every clown turn you on? Pass the frickin' popcorn - a circus, indeed!

I care deeply about the Natalee Holloway case and I happen to agree with Joe M's brutal honesty in his desire to help missing people.  I respect people with BALLS.

Okay, we've established that your blond, simple-minded, hot for BALLS and something of a cheer leader. So, please pardon me for thinking your Mother's biggest challenge in high school was keeping the back of your cheer uniform clean every time the newest bad boy in town came along.

I also believe that people can change. He's obviously been rehabilitated and has proven to the country of his dedication to doing the right thing and his mission of helping missing persons. If you look at the facts, there's no denying it. He always tells me, "It's not how you start the race, it's how you finish it."

If you were any more dense, you'd have to strap fog lights on your thighs just to get laid on a sunny day, Good Lord. Here is your old Joe Mammana:

PHILADELPHIA - A man who has contributed thousands of dollars in rewards to the Citizens Crime Commission of Delaware Valley for catching killers and kidnappers has a lengthy criminal background, according to a published report.

Joseph Mammana, 44, has spent time behind bars for charges including aggravated assault, drug possession, fraud, car theft and identity theft ... He served eight months in Montgomery County prison for striking his wife with a countertop in 1991, when he was 32. Mammana also was jailed in Florida and New Jersey on drug and fraud charges, as well as for the theft of cars, coats, and the identities of two people in the 1980s and 1990s.

Mammana has made more than $130,000 in public pledges to the crime commission over the past decade, ... At the time of his contributions, he was wanted on warrants in Bucks County and Florida, the paper reported.

Last month, Charlotte County, Florida, recalled its 1992 warrant for a probation violation. On Tuesday, the Bucks County 1988 warrant was recalled after Mammana surrendered to sheriff's deputies. An April 19 trial date was set.

That warrant was issued after Mammana, a competitive bodybuilder, allegedly failed to pay $550 for a weightlifter's belt from Prestige Saddle & Harness of Quakertown.

"If he truly wants to be a good guy, he can start with me," Prestige owner Karen Porter said after being told of Mammana's philanthropy.

He holds a mortgage to a house in Lower Makefield, Bucks County, but his name isn't on the deed. He owns three businesses in Pennsylvania and one in New Jersey, but they do not apparently exist at their registered addresses.

One company, Paris Cosmetics, is registered at the home address of Mammana's mother, who said her son does not sell cosmetics from her home. Hope Mammana said her son turned his life around but she would not comment further.

In 1988, Mammana was charged in Montgomery County with raping a girlfriend, but the charge was dropped when he pleaded guilty to harassment. He received a suspended sentence.

In 1989 in Sarasota County, Florida, Mammana and another man tried to buy a Corvette using someone else's identity, according to the Sarasota Herald-Tribune. He spent three months in prison.

In 1990, he returned to the Philadelphia area and married his second wife, stating his job on his marriage application as steelworker. He then was ordered to pay restitution and serve three years' probation for bouncing a check at Zinman Furs in New Jersey two years earlier.

In 1991, he was charged in Montgomery County with opening a checking account in another man's name, and in Burlington County, N.J., with stealing three cars from a Nissan dealership.

That October, he pleaded guilty and served eight months for aggravated assault of his then-wife, Lisa, and for possession with intent to deliver steroids.

"He threatened to kill me, and he threatened to scar my face," she testified. "He threatened to have my father's house burnt down. He threatened to have my daughter raped and blinded."

When she said she wanted a divorce, Mammana tore a countertop from its hinges, struck her over the head with it and put a knife to her throat, she testified.

He later served one year for the car thefts in Burlington County.

And here is your new Joe Mammana:

My mother's tears are of sympathy. Mine, however ARE NOT – mine are of pure anger... I want the cowardly PUNKS who hurt her to know that THEY STILL HAVE ME TO CONTEND WITH – and I am a problem that NOBODY wants. ... It's not how you start the race; it's how you finish it.

Several of my associates are in Aruba as we speak. Within the next five days, several more will join them. ... I want Americans to know that they are vulnerable to our enemies from all over the world while in Aruba, ... I have vowed on World television, to Beth Twitty, to myself, and MOST IMPORTANTLY, to my own mother, that I WILL NOT GIVE UP until this case is resolved to MY satisfaction. Screw closure. Screw justice. I believe in REVENGE.

These three pieces of TRASH have a Sicilian on their tail who has arms and eyes that can reach and see AROUND THE WORLD. They can run, but they can't hide. I want them and the Aruban government to look at me and know that they are out of their league.

Those are not the words of a rehabilitated man. They are the words of an angry, hate-filled individual gloaming onto a good cause in an attempt to either purge his own demons, or shroud his own troubling outlook with some legitimacy.

The search for Natalee Holloway, for any intelligent, caring individual, was and is about justice. There is nothing just in this man's rants. There is no law in his would be good works, except what he himself might desire it to be as he hides what appears to be a hateful, unenlightened, disturbed and disordered personality behind the skirt of any real concept of Justice.

At it's best, it's schoolyard bluster - and at it's worst, it's criminal. And you're proud of posting that, somehow? Frankly, as a fellow blogger, that's what's so offensive to me.

If you get off having some Italian thug with a few dollars defining justice for you, you would have loved Italy in the 30's and 40's.

The world stamped out that evil and if you, or the Mother of Natalee Holloway had any sense at all, they wouldn't allow such an individual to use them to play out his self-centered, attention-seeking, maladjusted neurosis. You were likely better off back in the day when you were under the bleachers playing genital gymnastics with some kid who got cut from the football team for not showering with the team.

Rah! Rah! Rah! Welcome to the blogosphere and best wishes. Let me know if you're ever down on your luck, I'm sure I can round up some angry thug with a little spare change to choose you for something.

Comments

[Jan]

Truly - maybe if Beth had not attached herself to such low lifes like Joe then maybe I would think more of her - but really this guy is just bad news.

Good post Dan!

[Painter]

Dan, why dont you grow up and get over it!!! waa waa waaa..No one tells you how to run this annoying ,negative blog...Dont tell someone how to grieve...Go find a pacifier..little baby!

[Jan]

Painter give me a break - this post about Joe has nothing to do with telling a mother how to grieve - but hanging around total low lifes is not exactly grieving - I find nothing negative about Dan's posts - go over to Monkeys if you want to only see your Twit side!

[Jody]

Beth chose to spend a week with this guy recently instead of staying at home with her husband and son. Does she ever see Matt? From what I have seen, since she got back from Aruba she has been traveling all over the US.

It says a lot about how much Matt means to her. I would think that a mother who has lost one child would want to keep the other close. Apparently her drive for revenge, money and airtime trumps her family obligations.

[Lucille]

I agree with painter...get off of the Dan bandwagon

[antoinette]

@painter, Do not believe in miracles, and if a tree is crocked, impossible to strait it.
Therefore, when this Mr. feels sad for his mother tears, if he did not feel before all the tears that the woman had before FOR HIM. Do you think the Mom is crying for someone else now, I hope you already wrote to Santa, eh!!!!

[Scott]

Painter is 100% on the mark! All Dan is doing is attacking some girl who has expressed her opinion and feelings about this case. Why is that ? Did she do something to you Dan? I doubt it... it's more likely that is stems from being totally insecure.

Dan Says:"I'll begin with some new material from her blog - more likely to attract male trolls with her picture, than anyone looking for an intelligent, principled discussion."

Well Dan there isn't anything in this post that stands up to the standreds you just addressed here. I don't think you have any room to talk....

[Michelle]

Hey AHOLE...if you have a problem with me, then take it up on MY FORUM...not yours. You don't even give me a chance to say ANYTHING to stand up for myself? You judge me as some slut, some airhead, some bimbo that lies on her back? You are just as pathetic as all the other Natalee/Beth/Joe M haters in the world. Go back under the rock where you came from. And don't involve me in your useless tirade.

You are only making YOURSELF look like the jerk, Dan.

Your Quote:
Excited? EXCITED?? Let me get this straight ... a bright young life is missing and presumed dead, you're about to get a chance to meet what one should assume is her still grieving Mother and a hate monger and you're compelled to tell the world you're EXCITED? Is there nothing wrong with that picture to you?

My response: I am EXCITED to HELP. Nothing more, nothing less. I guess it must sound strange to you that people actually care and want to help others? I weep for your parents, because they certainly didn't raise a thoughtful child.

Your quote:
I would expect someone with your intelligence and sensitivity would just about wet her panties for the chance to meet a prominent serial killer, or, you know, someone important like THAT.

My response: You are pathetic. I don't 'wet my panties' for anyone. Ever heard of a regular person wanting to help? Grassroots is where it all begins, baby. In addition, the demeaning female comments are COMPLETELY unnecessary and DISRESPECTFUL. Maybe I should go on my blog and tell everyone that you have a little penis? Just for no reason...or just because I don't agree with you. Jesus...what ever happened to free speech without being burned at the stake?

Your Quote:
If you were any more dense, you'd have to strap fog lights on your thighs just to get laid on a sunny day, Good Lord.

My Response: You are completely OUT OF LINE. Sounds to me like you are the one that's the true misogynist. How dare you write something that disgusting about me on your site. You don't even know me! Get a life!

Hey ladies reading this...I hope you admire such a blogger who would demean a woman he doesn't even know. If you keep reading him, then that's your foolish perogative.

Your Quote:
Again, it's pretty easy to see where your emphasis rests from your use of caps. You claim to be educated. Did they teach you enough English to distinguish between the words messenger and advocate? Or did cheer leading camp get in the way of your studies?

Okay, we've established that your blond, simple-minded, hot for BALLS and something of a cheer leader. So, please pardon me for thinking your Mother's biggest challenge in high school was keeping the back of your cheer uniform clean every time the newest bad boy in town came along.

My Response:
Sorry to disappoint you, but I wasn't a cheerleader or anything that you must think in your sick, perverted, feeble mind.

If you think I'm such a slut, dumb ass blonde, then email me and chat personally with whatever else you'd like to say to me.

Otherwise enjoy your miserable and depressing existence. I see a voo-doo doll with your name on it. LOSER.

Michelle

[Lisa]

Very interesting post Dan. Why would BHT attach herself to a covicted felon that beats women when her own child may have suffered a similar fate?

Would Joran be able to buy her understanding and forgiveness as well?

Has Joe ever had to pay up on any of his rewards offers or all they all "safe" bets?

[jan]

Michelle if Joe Mammana is your kind of man well great - all i can say is he appears to be some low life thug that likes to make big time threats - if these 3 were US citizens I doubt he could get away with it - stick up for him, go out with him - I could care less - he sounds mean, acts like a bully and I would not want him on my side no matter how many children of mine were missing - leave Dan alone - he is a fair blogger with many different angles to this case - not just the msm tune!

[Maura]

Dan-
You are way out of line on this one! This really sounds like a personal attack to me. Do you go around looking at peoples blogs so you can attack them like this poor girl?
Wow, I am in shock!

[Dan]

If you think I'm such a slut, dumb ass blonde, then email me and chat personally

Dang - that sounds like one hell of a come on!! ; ) LMAO

Grow up, girl - welcome to blogging. Now go home and take off your Viktum skirt and write a post if you want to. If it's worthwhile, I'll be happy to link it. You have a front page, I assume. Nothing is preventing you from posting whatever you want. Stand up for yourself, or lie down - whatever ...

Seems you want freespeech without the ability for someone to criticize you for what you choose to express. Too bad. It dont work that way.

[Scott]

Jan,

DAN HAD NO RIGHT TO ATTACK HER IN THE MANNOR HE DID! IT BORDERS ON SLANDER! DAN A FAIR BLOGGER? MY ASS! IF YOU THINK HIS ASSULT ON HER IS FAIR YOUR NOT READING THAT WAY HE ATTACKED HER... AS A WOMEN I WOULD THINK YOU WOULD BE OUTRAGED!

HE WANTS TO GO AFTER JOE GREAT GO FOR IT. THE PERSONNEL ATTACKS AGAINST MICHELLE OR FOR THAT MATTER IT WAS ATTACK AGAINST WOMEN IS TOTALLY UNCALLED FOR.....

[Michelle]

I meant call me and we'll see what you have to say to me on the phone. I bet you're too scared to go face to face with a woman in "YOUR ARENA". Please... I can tell you are a typical narcissist that obviously doesn't respect women. I bet you have no woman in your life, do you? Doesn't suprise me by the way you talk to total strangers.

Free Speech is FINE DAN...but demeaning and making 'women hater' remarks towards me FOR NO REASON on your blog is out of line and uncalled for. I hope you sleep well at night knowing that you are a complete dickhead. If my dad knew who you were, you'd get a nice ass-whooping for speaking to his daughter that way! You should be ashamed of yourself. NOT EVERYONE'S BLOG has to be negative and rude like yours.

[Scott]

Dan,

Your attack against her was childish, immature and and shows YOUR lack of intelligence!

You made a personnel attack which is FAR different than critizing her point of view..... you called her a slut on at least 3 occassions in your little post....

Your comments have continued to march onward and downward as has the quailty or the intergity of anything you have to say.... Once again you demostrate that you have a personnel agenda against anyone who is working with the family to obtain answers.. I have said it before your a hypocrite you need to remove the post for Dave Holloway....

[nursemind]

Wow, just when you think you've heard it all, someone like Michelle enters the circus ring. From her foul talk she obviously doesn't have all her personal issues resolved so guess it's no surprise she'd cling to someone like loser Joe. Women that hard and crude can't line up with decent men so they always gravitate to the losers.

[Dan]

HE WANTS TO GO AFTER JOE GREAT GO FOR IT. THE PERSONNEL ATTACKS AGAINST MICHELLE OR FOR THAT MATTER IT WAS ATTACK AGAINST WOMEN IS TOTALLY UNCALLED FOR.....

Okay, for the record - I didn't "go after" a women - I went after a blogger. A female blogger who held up Joe M as an example of all that is right with the world on her blog. Some of you people are really dumb and don't understand anything more complex than a coloring book.

Now Im the woman hater and evil one for using a sexually provocative tone to exaggerate my point about a female blogger out selling someone who hit a women with a countertop?? LOL Good lord, now I know what makes liberals tick - pulling their chain. Amazing that the first thing she's does is hide behind her femininity. SO much for sexual equality. And evidently she only likes someone with the balls to speak their mind when it's a position she supports. I didnt realize lynching was so big in Indianna, too. feh.

[Dan]

'women hater' remarks

Hey, I achieved my goal. You are right where I thought you would be - look at what you are supporting and what and how you are attacking?? You cannot be THAT unable to see the glaring hypocrisy in your position.

[portland]

If you think I'm such a slut, dumb ass blonde, then email me and chat personally

Dang - that sounds like one hell of a come on!! ; ) LMAO

Grow up, girl - welcome to blogging. Now go home and take off your Viktum skirt and write a post if you want to. If it's worthwhile, I'll be happy to link it. You have a front page, I assume. Nothing is preventing you from posting whatever you want. Stand up for yourself, or lie down - whatever ...

Seems you want freespeech without the ability for someone to criticize you for what you choose to express. Too bad. It dont work that way.

Posted by: Dan | Nov 16, 2005 11:16:59 PM

I'm dying at the suggestion of you telling someone else to grow up. You just posted a vitriolic rant befitting of a 13 year old because you didn't like someone elses opinion. Pretty much anyone with a brain and a conscience can see that what you posted was rude, over the line, and totally inconsistent with the actions of any adult.

[Scott]

No Dan I am as conserviatve as they come... as republican as they come and you are way over the top on this one.. you called her a slut on 3 occassions and even in your second response you did the same made anther innudedo. If it had been a male blogger you wouldn't of attacked them in the same mannor. It was totally out of line and uncalled. It has nothing to do with being a liberal, conservative, pro Twitty, anti twitty or any other thing. It has to do with an out of line personnel attack that you owe her an appoligy for...

[Michelle]

Hey at least Joe M. is REFORMED and REHABILITATED. Unlike you. I see no hypocrisy in my decision to back Joe for his efforts because of his past 'bad acts' against women. It seems to me that he's done his time and is trying to do something decent by helping women now.

Whatever. Go back to your negativity hole.

[Dan]

Pretty much anyone with a brain and a conscience can see that what you posted was rude, over the line, and totally inconsistent with the actions of any adult.

Oh, I see - next time I'll just smack her around and apologize and shout WHERE"S NATALEE? In your book that would make me a hero. Some of you are just sad - small minded and sad.

[Alee]

An apoligy is in order

[portland]

Oh, I see - next time I'll just smack her around and apologize and shout WHERE"S NATALEE? In your book that would make me a hero. Some of you are just sad - small minded and sad.

Posted by: Dan | Nov 16, 2005 11:36:38 PM

Damn you're stupid, aren't you? Find where I said I support Mammana or his past actions? I don't, and I don't support your current comments either per my previous comment.

[wreck]

Totally unbecoming, of someone who desperately wants to be known as a "Journalist", Dan. Where the hell did THAT come from???? I am disappointed.

[Lisa]

Hey at least Joe M. is REFORMED and REHABILITATED. Unlike you. I see no hypocrisy in my decision to back Joe for his efforts because of his past 'bad acts' against women. It seems to me that he's done his time and is trying to do something decent by helping women now.

Posted by: Michelle | Nov 16, 2005 11:35:50 PM

Don't kid yourself Michelle. Men like that don't change. Be very careful when you decide to call it quits with him.

[Scott]

Dan,

again this isnt about your feelings towards JoeM. As a man I am offended by your "personnel" attacks against her. There was NO REASON for you to imply she was a slut or she was trolling for men at a state prison... Your comments can not be explained away by claiming your pulling a liberal's chain... You dont know if she is liberal or conservative. And again it has nothing to do with where you stand on anything... your attack was way over the top...you owe her an appoligy

[Dan]

Totally unbecoming, of someone who desperately wants to be known as a "Journalist", Dan. Where the hell did THAT come from???? I am disappointed.

You know what - that's just too damn bad. And when I am writing as a journalist I sure as hell use that approach. But let me put this as plain as I can for some of you, and I'm soeaking generally now, wreck, not necessarily to you - but to whomever the so many of you are - if you are going to stand there and support the vile, hate-filled rhetoric of a Joe M, regardless of his past - and also embrace all the jurine this and v d shit that, not to mention your daily verbal lynching of three young men with no evidence. And also go along with the pathetic - we should get them because WE think they are guilty garbage a Joe M equates to - and THEN have the nerve to turn around here and make all these accusations because of my speech in going after another blogger - well, then there aren't enough words to describe my reaction, but here are a choice few. F off and Kiss my ass. For God's sake, please go - and stay away, as I am tired of your pathetic bullshit based all on some raw, inexplicable emotion sans reason, an appreciation for genuine justice, and an understanding of objective facts.

Got it?? Just freaking leave if you can't deal with it. One thing about this web log for sure isn't changing, folks - and THAT is ME.

[Not a Hand Wringer]

{{ Hey at least Joe M. is REFORMED and REHABILITATED. Unlike you. I see no hypocrisy in my decision to back Joe for his efforts because of his past 'bad acts' against women. It seems to me that he's done his time and is trying to do something decent by helping women now.

Whatever. Go back to your negativity hole. }}

So, the hypocrite doesn't see any hypocracy in her actions.

Not surprising really. Hypocrites usually don't.

Look, if you want to hang with a snake, nobody is going to stop you. But, I hope you're as forgiving of others with criminal pasts who say that they have reformed as you are with Mammana. Somehow though...I doubt that.

You probably just pick your spots, and when it suits you to hang with sleaze-balls...you have no problems with it.

[Dan]

There was NO REASON for you to imply she was a slut or she was trolling for men at a state prison

LMAO - I thought that schtick was great. If I come across any coupons for a sense of humor, I'll mail ya one. Geesh! What a bunch of candy-asses. Stop playing the chick card or I'll invite blogger Beth over and she'll tell you to shove up yer bum. LOL

[portland]

Totally unbecoming, of someone who desperately wants to be known as a "Journalist", Dan. Where the hell did THAT come from???? I am disappointed.

You know what - that's just too damn bad. And when I am writing as a journalist I sure as hell use that approach. But let me put this as plain as I can for some of you, and I'm soeaking generally now, wreck, not necessarily to you - but to whomever the so many of you are - if you are going to stand there and support the vile, hate-filled rhetoric of a Joe M, regardless of his past - and also embrace all the jurine this and v d shit that, not to mention your daily verbal lynching of three young men with no evidence. And also go along with the pathetic - we should get them because WE think they are guilty garbage a Joe M equates to - and THEN have the nerve to turn around here and make all these accusations because of my speech in going after another blogger - well, then there aren't enough words to describe my reaction, but here are a choice few. F off and Kiss my ass. For God's sake, please go - and stay away, as I am tired of your pathetic bullshit based all on some raw, inexplicable emotion sans reason, an appreciation for genuine justice, and an understanding of objective facts.

Got it?? Just freaking leave if you can't deal with it. One thing about this web log for sure isn't changing, folks - and THAT is ME.

Posted by: Dan | Nov 16, 2005 11:52:27 PM

Why can't you just admit you were wrong? It isn't about what other people think about Joe, the boys involvment, or anyting else. You are responsible for your own actions and you should take accountability and admit fault for what you posted. It was offensive and over the line, and that has nothing to do with what anyone thinks about Joe Mammana, who I -- and most others -- agree is vindictive and acting unjustly in this case.

[Ben]

intelligent, principled discussion.

I couldn't get past this without laughing. Here, you are joking? RIGHT.

[Alee]

Dan said....One thing about this web log for sure isn't changing, folks - and THAT is ME.

I have to disagree with you Dan. You have changed a lot!!

[Jami]

I agree Alee, he's changed alot.

And the jealousy has shown many times.

Maybe if he allowed an open mind he's get more attention.

But the role is evil/slander/hatred/disrespect.

What flavor do you think Dan's Koolaid is?

[Michelle]

Sounds like there are many people in my corner, Dan. Thanks to those who are sticking up for me. That really pissed me off! What? Are we "like" in High School again? Do I remind you of some chick that gave you a boner and she ended up blowing you off? Get over it Dan. Get some rest, take some some good 'meds'; and lighten up on the blog. Take a few days off or something. I think you get too worked up over things you cannot change. Life's too short!

Whoever is sick and tired of Dan's incorrigible, drunk, and lousy attitude, come to my blog instead. That is, if you can handle other things besides Natalee Holloway, occasional humor and other thought provoking issues. I am not negative towards people who comment and don't agree with me. However, attacking me PERSONALLY is a whole other ball of wax. So Dan, you're not invited!

Positive people can only come here. http://michellesimonsen@blogspot.com

[sadie]

The best part was she is going to send her " dad" after Dan and have him beat his ass ....Does that really happen in the Land of Blog????hahahaha

[RstJ]

Oh man, she waaaants your bad blogging self, dude....

RstJ
www.thebushyhairedstranger.com
(for those who don't feel like stroking Beth's ego)

[Scott]

Dan,

No one is playing the CHICK card... your trying to support your vile comments with crap about Joe and those trashing the 3 suspects. Your trying to support it as an attempt at humor. Sorry that card just don't play.. You wrote it just the way most everyone on here read it... It was a disqusting attack against someone who didn't deserve it. You might make a case that JoeM deserves it or if you don't like the Twitty's but not this blogger. You used sexual contations to demean "HER" on a personnel level without cause. I would be shocked that ANY female reading your blog wouldn't be offended by your outburst. You want to disagree with her opionoin or even the fact that she is excited about helping on the case then fine but again your attacks were way over the top and you owe the women an appoligy....

[sadie]

Count me out on your blog Michelle...I don't support Joe but I do support Dan...

[cindi in pa]

Michelle, do you know what it sounds like when a grown woman makes the comment about her daddy coming to her defense? Do you suppose the women JOE BEAT and made threats towards had daddy's to protect them.

Sure Joe could have changed, I doubt it very much. He may not be passing bed checks, pretending to be a lawyer, using someone elses idenity to write bad checks. His need for control and his angry words show a man who whould beat the shit out of any woman who stood up to him. Watch it Michelle, you could very well be asking for trouble. Why do you think Joe choose you to run with this story? After all, SM has done much to promote Beth Twitty. The reason can be seen in your posts, you will be very easy to control and munipulate. That is very obvious. If I wanted someone who knows people, how criminals think, I would have gone to Steve Huff, not someone as yourself, with no clue of the criminal mind.

Something to think about Michelle, if Joe is so rehabilitated, why did his wife report this to A Philadelphia Magazine writter in JUNE OF 2004.

"Little Joe’s mom, didn’t know that part of the Mammana story until she was contacted for this one. “I guarantee you Joe doesn’t know where I work or when I was promoted,” Evelyn says. “We lived separate lives for a long time. He might not be a great husband, but he’s a good person and a great father.”

He doesn't know where she works, not because he needs to find out how much she makes. The courts require that information in any child support case. He doesn't know because she is afraid of him. I would bet he has to drop his son off with someone and his wife has to pick him up, or the child has to be picked up and dropped at a "safe place" decided by the courts. Here is statement from the same June 04 article.

Little Joe’s mom, didn’t know that part of the Mammana story until she was contacted for this one. Neither did some of his influential new buddies. Nor did a former local TV newswoman who dated him just two years ago, and now fears for her safety as a result of their split.

These are not statments from years ago, this story is from last year. Wake up Michelle.

Here is the link to the PM article.

http://www.phillymag.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/article.view/articleID/1443477a-53b9-4152-af18-10297cfe4c57

[RealityBased]

GO DAN!!! WHOOOHOOO!!!

She must not have a lot of self esteem because she is so willing to defend someone as sleezy as Joe the wannabe thug who apparently takes great pleasure in showing his manhood by threatening and abusing a woman and child.

Her blog really isn't worth the read, and she has to approve all comments before they are posted. So if she thinks Joe is such a stand up guy, why not allow that "free speech" she seems to want to uphold.

[Not a Hand Wringer]

I'm a positive person, and I'd rather eat the shoelaces off of a pair of 12 year old sneakers, than spend anymore time reading your blog.

Why?

Well, you support and hang with sleaze-balls because you like their 'balls'.

I'm figuring that your attitude towards 'balls' is similar to Bush's attitude towards the War on Terror.

You're either "with them...or against them."

Probably with them, AND right up against them, if they happen to be Joe's.

[Dan]

Whoever is sick and tired of Dan's incorrigible, drunk, and lousy attitude, come to my blog instead. That is, if you can handle other things besides Natalee Holloway, occasional humor and other thought provoking issues. I am not negative towards people who comment and don't agree with me. However, attacking me PERSONALLY is a whole other ball of wax. So Dan, you're not invited!
Positive people can only come here. http://michellesimonsen@blogspot.com

ROFLMAO - Girl, learn a litttle bit about what you're doing and come back when you grow up. Trolling my blog now??? ha ha ha I think I'll leave it there.

[Not a Hand Wringer]

By the way, if it wasn't clear...I was referring to Michelle's blog and not Dan's in my last post.

[RealityBased]

The best part was she is going to send her " dad" after Dan and have him beat his ass ....Does that really happen in the Land of Blog????hahahaha

Posted by: sadie | Nov 17, 2005 12:14:32 AM

Maybe that explains her infatuation with Joe...reminds her of her father...LOL

[cindi in pa]

Posted by: Not a Hand Wringer | Nov 17, 2005 12:25:32 AM

glad you cleared that up. Started to worry about you for a second lol.

[Shonane]

Dan, in this case your comments come across as crass and unprofessional. Found this to be not consistent with your typical character and presentation. While I agree with your assessment of Joe M and your criticism of another web blogger who appears to promote and favor him,it is not necessary to ascribe other attributes to that web blogger that are unfounded. I think you are having a bad hair day. If you were a female might even guess it was PMS.

[cindi in pa]

The best part was she is going to send her " dad" after Dan and have him beat his ass ....Does that really happen in the Land of Blog????hahahaha

Posted by: sadie | Nov 17, 2005 12:14:32 AM

Sadie, if any female blogger can show another what real balls are, it's got to be you ;). Imagine you could have a field day following this one up. lol

[RealityBased]

Dan, in this case your comments come across as crass and unprofessional. Found this to be not consistent with your typical character and presentation. While I agree with your assessment of Joe M and your criticism of another web blogger who appears to promote and favor him,it is not necessary to ascribe other attributes to that web blogger that are unfounded. I think you are having a bad hair day. If you were a female might even guess it was PMS.

Posted by: Shonane | Nov 17, 2005 12:26:56 AM

Get real! She has shown her true colors and the lack of depth to her character by what she has posted on this blog.

[Isanah]

I would be shocked that ANY female reading your blog wouldn't be offended by your outburst. You want to disagree with her opionoin or even the fact that she is excited about helping on the case then fine but again your attacks were way over the top and you owe the women an appoligy....

Posted by: Scott | Nov 17, 2005 12:18:23 AM

Got it?? Just freaking leave if you can't deal with it. One thing about this web log for sure isn't changing, folks - and THAT is ME.

Posted by: Dan | Nov 16, 2005 11:52:27 PM

http://open-mind.org/Serenity.htm

Dan, you may need this link. Too much anger is not good for anyone! Keep the faith.