Natalee Holloway: A Message From Joe

Wondering if this is real, or even real legal, if so?

Beth Holloway Twitty stayed with me and my family last week in Philadelphia. I watched this mother cry. My family and I cried with her. Her tears are tears of pain, sorrow, loss. My mother's tears are of sympathy. Mine, however ARE NOT – mine are of pure anger.

Even if, by some miracle, Natalee walks through the door tomorrow, I want the cowardly PUNKS who hurt her to know that THEY STILL HAVE ME TO CONTEND WITH – and I am a problem that NOBODY wants. Yes, I've been on both sides of the law. I was young once. Things happen. That's life. It's not how you start the race; it's how you finish it.

Several of my associates are in Aruba as we speak. Within the next five days, several more will join them. The ability to easily enter this third world cesspool continues to astonish all of us. It's more difficult to enter the New York City subway system than it is to enter Aruba – security there should be at an all-time high, not NON-EXISTENT. I want Americans to know that they are vulnerable to our enemies from all over the world while in Aruba, as vulnerable as if they were wearing a white shirt with a red Bull's eye on the back.

I have spoken to Philadelphia City Council and many high-ranking elected officials and asked when a Resolution will be passed calling for a BOYCOTT of Aruba as a tourist destination. As a result, pressure will be put on the cruise ships to use other ports, and THEN we will have the UNDIVIDED ATTENTION of Aruba and its government.

Speaking of the people of Aruba, I am not after them – I feel bad that they are going to suffer due to a lethargic and lackadaisical response from their government. I suggest that the people of Aruba apply pressure from within to get some answers in the Holloway case, and do it quickly.

I have vowed on World television, to Beth Twitty, to myself, and MOST IMPORTANTLY, to my own mother, that I WILL NOT GIVE UP until this case is resolved to MY satisfaction. Screw closure. Screw justice. I believe in REVENGE.

These three pieces of TRASH have a Sicilian on their tail who has arms and eyes that can reach and see AROUND THE WORLD. They can run, but they can't hide. I want them and the Aruban government to look at me and know that they are out of their league.

Joseph Mammana

Comments

[Fab]

@ DUTCHIE:

DAMN...Thats explains a LOT about granny! hehe

[c]

Now I see why Scubajab stopped posting... she mentioned that she stopped doing that for her own safety.

[knot]

another question...cause I don't know Joe..and his record.. which could be very bad for all I know..how do your crass comments about ...his mom and children elevate you above him...I guess what I'm asking.. from what I'm reading is..no one slammin him appears to be any better than him...but that's just how your post come across..you could all be saints for all I know..

[katya]

CANTA Y NO LORRES!

Posted by: Fab |
Canta no llores

[letsbefair]

Cowards all these Sicilians.
Posted by: DUTCHIE | Nov 14, 2005 6:54:02 PM

hey Dutchie,
This man does not represent sicillians.. Dont group us together.

Posted by: ProudAmerican | Nov 14, 2005 6:56:03 PM

Yep. Joe is an embarrassment. Where's Marlon Brando to slap Sonny in the head when you need him?

[bleached]

Even though I may not personally disagree with WHAT Joe says, his "loose cannon" approach will drive people in the other direction. No one will stand behind Beth and a boycott with Joe shooting off his mouth.

[ProudAmerican]

Yep. Joe is an embarrassment. Where's Marlon Brando to slap Sonny in the head when you need him?

Posted by: letsbefair | Nov 14, 2005 7:01:29 PM

Nor do they (those characters) represent Italians.... Dont believe the hype...

[Fab]

@PA:

They sure don't.
My grandfather was a fairly normal guy.

[ProudAmerican]

Posted by: Fab | Nov 14, 2005 7:04:25 PM

Mine too.. Its liken to stereotyping Alabama, Aruba and any other culture.. but for some reason, its ok to do to Italians. Sick of it... JMHO

[fokje]

Cowards all these Sicilians.
Posted by: DUTCHIE | Nov 14, 2005 6:54:02 PM

I wouldn't call him a coward. A brainless piece of work he is though. I might hope Joran has contacted a good lawyer in holland for this.

[Fab]

Hey Fokje...
You on GS too? hehehe

[ProudAmerican]

Posted by: fokje | Nov 14, 2005 7:08:05 PM
I would.. If a man has a personel beef with someone..he does not make a public threat.. He just does what he has to do.

But this is not personel for him. This is not his family. Hes flexing his muscles where they dont belong, and as a supporter of Beth, She is making a very big mistake by not distancing herself from this.

She must be very desparate

[cindi in pa]

letsbefair, ok knock it off with the homosexual remarks. Your pissed off and that is understandable, but it also sounds like you are responding out of desperation. I know many homosexual men and not a one of them is a thug. Joe is a real philly tough guy, that can be verified, the rest of his life leaves much to be desired. If he is a homosexual he sure surrounds himself with some knock down beautiful women who are anyting but gay. He was at one time married to a philadelphia news reporter. This woman had to leave town and not let him know where she was going, she was that afraid of her life. He only beats on women he loves, nobody else should have to worry.
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Does anyone know if BIG MONEY JOE has ever shelled out the first dime in reward money???

Posted by: bizman | Nov 14, 2005 6:31:54 PM

yes he has donated money to crime victims recovery funds, the philadelphia crime victims fund, to families who have had children killed in school yards. That is about as much credit as I am willing to give him. He is a typical case of, you can dress them up but give them manors.
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I hope someone does report this post of his to the FBI.
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Joe if your reading, money and might do not buy true friendsm you surround yourself with nice clothes, cars, entertainment and friends. All of which you have to pay for. Even the big with politicians you hang with are having a good time on your dime. They don't give a flying f^ck about you Joe, just like the women you beat the shit out of. They saw you for what you are and you couldn't have that, could you Joe? Bla, bla, bla, bet was crying. Gee Joe, did the women you were beating cry too? Don't give me that crap you have changed, your just as low as you were years back, only difference is, your not behind bars.....yet.

Beth if you are reading, I am sure your daughter would be proud of the types you are keeping company with. Obvious at this point, we all know where Natalee got her manners from. Thank God she had her father over the years. Do you think your daughter would condone such behavior as resorting to violence????? You say all these months you have proof, from the beginning you have said that. Well Beth, PUT IT ON THE TABLE,WE WANT PROOF, your loosing the support of many people with your threats. Not to mention your "good" christian name. You are now MIA as well. I hope they print this email from JM in your local news papers, the children you teach will be very proud of you.

[lola]

you know, since mid to late july, this story just gets weirder. i have no idea what to make of this. what in the heck is going on?

[fokje]

She must be very desparate

Posted by: ProudAmerican | Nov 14, 2005 7:10:01 PM

She is ill and being abused by several people with different agendas.

[ProudAmerican]

Posted by: fokje | Nov 14, 2005 7:20:53 PM
I think you may be right, I feel bad for her, but I think its time a family member steps in and does an intervention.

[RealityBased]

Well, Joe is showing how stupid he is...Joran isn't even in Aruba.

Maybe the officials in the Netherlands should be contacted?

I certainly think the sponsors of MSNBC, should be bombarded with emails since the girl claims Joe is only going to be talking with MSNBC and her.

What a bunch of froot loops!!

[fokje]

Hey Fokje...
You on GS too? hehehe

Posted by: Fab | Nov 14, 2005 7:09:28 PM

I have to admit; I'm stupid. what means GS??? Do I know you btw?

[fokje]

I think you may be right, I feel bad for her, but I think its time a family member steps in and does an intervention.

Posted by: ProudAmerican | Nov 14, 2005 7:21:54 PM

agree. I wonder why her husband is so quiet?

[Fab]

GS is another Dutch Forum. I think I confused you with someone else. My mistake.

[Shell]

She is ill and being abused by several people with different agendas.

Posted by: fokje | Nov 14, 2005 7:20:53 PM
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I agree with you fokje. She is being manipulated by organized crime thugs like Joe M., and even Jossy Mansur. Yet, she seems to have an attraction to Joe M. I don't know if this has escalated to anything more than needing his money, and appreciating his calling for a hit squad to kill uncharged young men, but, she definitely has an attraction to him. There's something going on there beyond a needy mom. Sometimes, those Soprano tough guys seduce vulnerable women, and that Joe M. is a scum-sucking criminal, far worse than anything he projects onto these three in the Natalee Holloway case. I find it disturbing that Natalee's mom is hanging out with a known rapist/attempted murderer, who threatened his wife by saying he'll get his mobsters to gang rape his young stepdaughter. He is trash. Besides, he's not even a smart criminal. Tony Soprano wouldn't brag about ordering a hit on three foreign boys for a missing girl investigation. He said, "even if Natalee is alive." He needs to be in a Federal Prison somewhere. I find him to be the scariest person involved in the Natalee Holloway case, and I've lost respect for the BHT for looking like she's lining up Husband Number THREE while looking for her daughter. :P

[lola]

what about the blog about "joe likes me, he really likes me." she is actually going to report everything joe says? has she heard him on television? this should prove extremely interesting.

[ProudAmerican]

agree. I wonder why her husband is so quiet?

Posted by: fokje | Nov 14, 2005 7:26:16 PM

Perhaps he has, too emotionally close to Beth.. Needs to be one of her brothers or sister in laws.. etc..

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she seems to have an attraction to Joe M.
Posted by: Shell | Nov 14, 2005 7:28:20 PM

Thats a ridiculous assumption unless you are privy to an inside conversation. Hes the only one telling her what she wants to hear, but this woman needs an intervention. Someone needs to help her.

[cindi in pa]

BHT for looking like she's lining up Husband Number THREE while looking for her daughter. :P

Posted by: Shell | Nov 14, 2005 7:28:20 PM

Joe will use her then A. throw her out, if she is lucky; B. beat the shit out of her for being too independent.

Beth's family needs to step in now. But come to think of it. We don't hear much from her family, only Jug's.

[RealityBased]

I think you may be right, I feel bad for her, but I think its time a family member steps in and does an intervention.

Posted by: ProudAmerican | Nov 14, 2005 7:21:54 PM

Ah then that would mean Beth would be relegated to the A&E channel and no longer on the cable news channels

lol

[cindi in pa]

Shell, Joe is not philly organized crime. They would have blown his brains out by now for being an azzhole.

[ProudAmerican]

Posted by: cindi in pa | Nov 14, 2005 7:37:19 PM

...for even speaking that way publically.. Low Profile does not fit his bill...

[sunny]

This Joe guy talks like a thug. And that's who Beth picks for a spokesperson?

[Fab]

Maybe Jug is not doing a good Job.
I think that Beth Likes IT rough.....

[letsbefair]

"I know many homosexual men and not a one of them is a thug. Joe is a real philly tough guy"

Posted by: cindi in pa | Nov 14, 2005 7:10:42 PM

I'm not razzing Joe Mammana cindi, I'm pointing out his psychosis based on his latent homosexual desires. The homosexual men you know can probably deal with their feelings. Joe Mammana can't. That's why he beats up women (he's jealous). And the remark about raping the suspects is what HE really wants to do. The guy needs help. It probably all goes back to the bizarre relationship with his mother.

[letsbefair]

Maybe Jug is not doing a good Job.
I think that Beth Likes IT rough.....

Posted by: Fab | Nov 14, 2005 7:42:50 PM

Beth likes sissy mama boys like Joe Mammana.

[letsbefair]

Shell, Joe is not philly organized crime. They would have blown his brains out by now for being an azzhole.

Posted by: cindi in pa | Nov 14, 2005 7:37:19 PM

He better shut up, or they're going to shut him up. Who do you think owns the hotels in Aruba that Joe "no brains" Mammana wants to boycott?

[Fab]

A lot of in the closet gay men will do everything to hide their true sexual nature....But this is rediculous....

[westcoaster]

AHAHAHAHA.....Sorry, don't believe this is the real deal.

"I got spurs that jingle jangle jingle, as I go ridin' merrily along".........

[Renee]

Me too, I love you Joe, You make my day. I argued with my dirty old man boss this morning about my blueberry dent perfume. He said I could get fired next time I wear the same perfume, and he is Dutch. The old man hired me for a reason. A month ago, he suggested we went to Aruba to set up a branch of business there. I declined.

[letsbefair]

A lot of in the closet gay men will do everything to hide their true sexual nature....But this is rediculous....

Posted by: Fab | Nov 14, 2005 7:46:46 PM

Joe Mammana 's misplaced anger is really at himself for being a homosexual. Mom wouldn't like it and he knows. So he has to try and please his Mom some other way.

[Jazz]

Gee...my crystal ball broke! I'll have to guess as to Beth's actual motives.

[cindi in pa]

Beth likes sissy mama boys like Joe Mammana.

Posted by: letsbefair | Nov 14, 2005 7:44:51 PM

I assure you Joe is no sissy. He may be a mamma's boy, but nothing wrong with that.

[letsbefair]

I assure you Joe is no sissy. He may be a mamma's boy, but nothing wrong with that.

Posted by: cindi in pa | Nov 14, 2005 7:56:21 PM

Don't you see cindi. Joe Mammana is a sissy, and he can't deal with it. That's why he tries so hard to act tough. But once in a while the truth slips out, like wanting to rape Joran and the Kalpoes. He beats up his beautiful wives because he's jealous. (He wants to be a beautiful woman).

[Botched]

U GO JOE. Just do it.

[in-disbelief]

wow!Kinds funny if you think about it.Sounds like made up rubbish .But people say fabrications of Beth on here
Is this site related to joranvandersloot2@blogspot.com?

[abott]

I just always wonder what BH next move is...

Correction..
"My family and I cried with her. Her tears are tears of pain, sorrow, loss. My mother's tears are of sympathy. Mine, however ARE NOT – mine are of pure *** JOY ****(not anger)."

PLENTY NATIONAL MEDIA ATTENTION AND MORE FAME...
HE IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE A MAFIA WANNABE LOW LIFE CRIMINAL LOOKING FOR FAME...

[donnaanna]

Wow! This is one SCARY fellow!!! He needs to be locked up again for these threats and conspiracy to commit a felony. Maybe they should throw away the key this time!

[Renee]

That's all you can do, you look for a Superman Joe M to help you, not the fumble bush man. You got the last chance and the last shot at Aruba the deadbeat govenment. I would, as a young woman. My dirty old boss wouldn't want me to mention Joe when I serve him coffee in the morning. He knows Joe well in our area. I bet he will be very very jealous.

[Stefani]

letsbefair~ Do u have valid proof that Joe is a homosexual ? What proof do u have that he has harmed small children, other than what he threatened to his x wife, but did not do. All of us say the worst things to the ones we love the MOST when we are angry. Haven't you done that ? I bet u have, reread your posts here today.Joe is NOT a murderer, he has committed NO mortal sins, so I say the past is the past. Moving forward as Joe has done AFTER he did his time as a younger man does NOT matter today. It is the person that he IS today, and that is one that u NOR I could be if we tried.I would love to meet letsbefair, and others who bash Beth, who bash Joe.U know WHY ? So I could see for myself what I learned by being a CATHOLIC, "Let he who is without sin, cast the 1st stone !" IF the shoe fits, wear it !PS And the Catholic Church problems are not mine to judge either. It is God I seek there, nothing more...

[Fab]

@ Stefani:

Then I guess that you agree that: "Let he who is without sin, cast the 1st stone !" Is also applecable to Joe himself!

[Stefani]

It is not mine to judge !

Interesting deduction is
letsbefair aka Tante Bet
Sure sounds like it !

I will pray for all of you.
In the CATHOLIC Church !

[letsbefair]

letsbefair~ Do u have valid proof that Joe is a homosexual ?

Posted by: Stefani | Nov 14, 2005 8:23:05 PM

Go back and read the transcripts when he was on Rita's show. Joe Mammana said that he wanted to rape Joran and the Kalpoes. Yes, I'd say that makes him a homosexual...

"Let he who is without sin, cast the 1st stone !"

But stefani, isn't that what Joe is doing to the 3 suspects that were released because there was no evidence against them?

[Fab]

Then how do you dare judgin other people's opinions!

[Jan]

What a piece of trash - I just do not understand this guy - what in the world has made him more attached to this case than the 1000 of other cases all over the place - and to be this threatful - against people that only have been under suspicion - in our country they would have been in and out of jail so fast we would not even be even considering attacking someone like Joe M is - he is truly horrific in his word and threats - the mear fact that Beth welcomes his kind as friends is truly scary - I would think that anyone with an ounce of a brain would recognize this low life and be appalled by what he has said and potentially is doing.