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Sunday, November 13, 2005

Natalee Holloway: The Camera Left Behind

Coming across all sorts of interesting things looking back through some old links. I was puzzled for two reasons when reading the NBC news story at link above. It was my impression that Natalee's Mother had looked at the pictures in the camera while still on the island. At least, I would have expected as much in a possible search for clues, acquaintances, etc.

Interesting that it was reported she went to view the hotel video tape to see if Natalee returned that night but never looked at her daughters pictures. Also, I see no reference at all to any pictures taken while on the trip.

As she went through the things Natalee Holloway left in her hotel room, Beth Twitty said she discovered her daughter's digital camera.

The camera contained pictures documenting some of Holloway's most memorable moments right before she disappeared.

Twitty said some of the pictures were of 18-year-old Holloway's senior prom.

Other pictures were taken on the day she graduated.

Twitty said it took her nearly three weeks to find the strength to finally look at the photos.

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hmmm her digital camera??? every newspaper carrying that photo of the three girls on the beach said it was taken with natalees DISPOSABLE camera the last night of the trip??? who gave the pictures tot he press so fast if beth did not look at them??? something is fishy once again

something is fishy once again

Posted by: truthbetold | Nov 13, 2005 3:11:06 AM

The beach is the last place you would want to take a digital camera. I would think that a camera however could be considered evidence. As a parent I can understand not wanting to take a look if my child were missing. On the other hand, like I said, it could have contained evidence the police could have used.

The Aruba government should look under every rock in Alabama and investigate BT&Co because the devious mother is hiding a lot and covering up for someone or a lot of people, or maybe it's to collect more "donations".

Something hasn't been right from the very start her accomplices attempting to smear Aruba and take the heat off her and whoever she is protecting especially Greta who tried to manipulate the questioning about the story to take the focus off BT.

A friend in the legal field explained that asking the right leading questions of a witness will help
to manipulate the allegations to help convict the perp, just the way Greta asks the right questions of grieving hootie to lead her to give the answers to manipulate all of us in thinking those bad ALE and all of Aruba are corrupt and JK2 are guilty.
They all are doing nothing more than exploiting Natalee for personal gain!

But ms speach therapist, just listen to her and her constant ...well Greta..Ah...well ah...just don't know Greta....ah.....in that screaching whiny voice and the thick southern drawl. If she's a speach therapist the poor kids of Mountain Brook wonder if they all walk around with that screaching voice saying.....well ah just don't know....ah just ...well.....

Actually, you should research better, the camera in her room was a disposable camera.

Dan: Perhaps Beth immediately saw the last pictures on the digital camera and found that there weren't many (or any) taken in Aruba. I can understand Natalee instead using the disposable camera so as not to worry about sand, loss or theft of her more expensive camera on the beach and in other places she went to. Perhaps the digital camera had been a graduation present and she was reluctant to take a chance with it. Then what Beth meant about not looking at the pictures referred to the ones taken at her graduation, since the pictures on the digital camera would have been chronological.

http://www.cbsnews.com/elements/2005/06/07/in_depth_us/photoessay700169_0_2_photo.shtml


This refers to the disposable camera in her room, the one she used most on Aruba.....How many people carry a nice camera around a beach area, she may have had the digital there, but Beth had already spoken to several of the children, I am sure she knew that Natalee had used her disposable camera while on the island.

I guess this was about the digital camera not the disposable.

I will not take three weeks to look to the photo if I realy want to know what happend.EXCUSSES EXCUSSES I THINK BESIDE JORAN AND KALPOE BETH ALSO LIKE TO LIE.

Three weeks,that's just more smoke Beth is blowing up the ass of the Kool-Aid Drinkers.In all reality any responsible parent would of had the disposable camera and/or digital camera processed before they could lay their head down for the first wink of rest and immediately displayed all of the pictures on TV in the hopes of someone somewhere would remember something.

The lady is a poor excuse for a human being and will stop at nothing to have her pitiful looking mug in front of a camera.

Then what Beth meant about not looking at the pictures referred to the ones taken at her graduation, since the pictures on the digital camera would have been chronological.

Posted by: tickles | Nov 13, 2005 9:07:03 AM
*******8
pictures on a digital camera are not necesscarily chronological. They are taken where there is space on a memory stick. At least that is how mine works.

I have been researching the beach photo of Natalee, Lee, Madison and Ruth. Some people may not know that there are actually three separate photos of those girls in circulation.

1. Natalee facing forward standing next to Madison. This is the cropped version that only shows Natalee and was used on the "missing poster."
2. Natalee, Lee, Madison and Ruth. Taken at a time and an angle that shows the schooner ship in the distance right between Madison and Ruth. Lee's earrings are turned at an angle different from the other photo.
3. Natalee, Lee, Madison and Ruth. Taken at a time and angle that shows the schooner ship to the far right of the photo. Lee's earrings again turned a different direction.

Somebody said that there was indeed one more version that no longer shows up any where. I would like to know which one is the disposable camera, which one is digital, and if any were taken by camera's belonging to the other girls. It does not seem that we can get to the point of getting any real facts at all. No even about some photographs.

I would also like to see the pictures of Carlos and Charlies so that I could find out if any of the people in the Soul Beach photos are also in the Carlos and Charlie photos. If the same descriptions and outfits appear in both sets of photos, then yes it is Natalee and friends at Soul Beach. Of course, I am not privy to those photos because they are private. I just think that we should all be allowed to look at both sets of photos. If they are mentioned publicly, we should get to see them. That's just my opinion.

It seems that Alabama has a new tragedy to face this morning.Yes even a more important issue than all of the missing people from Alabama.
When will the suffering end for the folk from Alabama????

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Posted by: bizman | Nov 13, 2005 11:18:30 AM

Posted by: bizman | Nov 13, 2005 11:32:05 AM

LOL! And they are really crying too. There goes any national championship. Guess they'll want a boycott of Louisiana now. Of course, those Cajuns will not miss them!

Why look for other CLUES on her camera on "DAY ONE" when it was already known for fact that Natalee left C&C's with JORAN & the KALPOES and she was never seen again? They also knew for a fact on "DAY ONE" these last ones known to be seen with her LIED about where they dropped her off.

I don't get what the hell would be the point to look at photos she took whenever it was (even at C&C) at that point. What could possibly be on there that would tell them what happened to her AFTER she got in that car?

From "DAY ONE" on it became even more obvious (especially after more LIES and the ARREST) that they were on the RIGHT track. NH's family still are 5 months later and even though ALE screwed it all up (and there's been a possible coverup along the way) even ALE admit they are not WRONG!

No pictures on any camera prior to her disappearance is going to come up with new CLUES or new "SUSPECTS". I get many in the anti-BH camp want to believe that (no matter how little sense it makes) but give it up. There are so many other ways to go after BH.

I have been researching the beach photo of Natalee, Lee, Madison and Ruth. Some people may not know that there are actually three separate photos of those girls in circulation.

1. Natalee facing forward standing next to Madison. This is the cropped version that only shows Natalee and was used on the "missing poster."
2. Natalee, Lee, Madison and Ruth. Taken at a time and an angle that shows the schooner ship in the distance right between Madison and Ruth. Lee's earrings are turned at an angle different from the other photo.
3. Natalee, Lee, Madison and Ruth. Taken at a time and angle that shows the schooner ship to the far right of the photo. Lee's earrings again turned a different direction.
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There can be 10 different shots of them at this same spot but what does that have to do with ANYTHING? I seriously don't get it.

Oh, for Heaven's sake. Beth was not even on the island when Natalee disappeared. Why should Beth see the photos? That is a task for LE, and one I expect they accomplished.

This thread reminds me of the so-called "early case mistakes" many say were made. I was alarmed that Ms Twitty was allowed full access to the HI room, Natalee's belongings and luggage and even allowed to wear Natalee's nightshirt.

That room should have been taped off and forensically examined. If Natlee returned to her room (how did they know for sure she didn't?) precious clues may have been lost long ago.

Now we have the issue of camera/s. Did she take one out that night? How did it get back? Did multiple cameras get back? Why weren't they taken as forensic evidence? What about fingerprints?

I guess in the end a missing teen tourist did not necessarily = foul play. Just missing.

I have been researching the beach photo of Natalee, Lee, Madison and Ruth. Some people may not know that there are actually three separate photos of those girls in circulation.

1. Natalee facing forward standing next to Madison. This is the cropped version that only shows Natalee and was used on the "missing poster."
2. Natalee, Lee, Madison and Ruth. Taken at a time and an angle that shows the schooner ship in the distance right between Madison and Ruth. Lee's earrings are turned at an angle different from the other photo.
3. Natalee, Lee, Madison and Ruth. Taken at a time and angle that shows the schooner ship to the far right of the photo. Lee's earrings again turned a different direction.
------

There can be 10 different shots of them at this same spot but what does that have to do with ANYTHING? I seriously don't get it.

Posted by: kin | Nov 13, 2005 2:34:23 PM

The facts about the photos are a way to find out if Beth knew that Natalee had visited the room after she got back from being with Joran. Marcia Twitty said originally that Mountain Brook kids had given information about seeing a guy or guy that had the same description as was said by Deepak. Originally Marcia Twitty did not disagree with the arrest of the security guards. Even if they picked up the wrong security guard, the investigation should have stayed focused on finding the last person to see Natalee, a security guard type person.

Hi everyone

I not sure...but I thought I heard that the Aruban investigators wern't alowed to see her suit case or the camara? Did anybody else hear that?

that's really strange about the camara being already in her hotel room...I think the MB kids know something..

HELLO?

Hi Sidney...now here is something that as a blog we could check out...how many cameras did Natalee have with her, what kind were they, where are they and why were they not confiscated by the ALE?

Very interesting!

hi.

I'm not sure..but I think I heard she had a disposable camera with her. I was under the impression that her mother got to all her stuff in her hotel room first.

what do you think?

I also think the MB kids know something about that night.

hello is there anybody there?

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There can be 10 different shots of them at this same spot but what does that have to do with ANYTHING? I seriously don't get it.

Posted by: kin | Nov 13, 2005 2:34:23 PM

The facts about the photos are a way to find out if Beth knew that Natalee had visited the room after she got back from being with Joran.
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You mean look to see if Natalee had taken photos AFTER she was supposedly dropped off by Joran & Co? What would she be taking pictures of at that hour of the night? Besides, Beth already knew she hadn't hooked up with the MB kids later on (or been seen) since she got into Deepak's car at C&Cs.

And....so....whats the big deal. You got a problem with that.

According to local radio in Aruba : two friends of Natalee are now saying that they have seen Natalee in the hotel on MONDAY, the day after she was at Carlos & Charlie and the radio is also telling that a video camera from Natalee which she used to film during the night at C&C has been taken away by Beth FROM HER ROOM at the hotel. ( Which means that she was back at the hotel Sunday night or morning )

Link in Dutch: http://www.renevannie.com/niews/kritish.html
Volgens berichten op o.a. de lokale radio zouden twee klasgenoten van Natalie hebben verklaard dat ze Natalie MAANDAGOCHTEND nog hebben gezien in het hotel!!! Als dat zo is dan valt alles in het water en krijgt het hele onderzoek een draai van 180 graden. Tevens hoorde ik dat de videocamera van Natalie waarmee ze die MAANDAGNACHT in Carlos en Charlie had gefilmd op haar kamer was gevonden en dat die door Mamma Twitty meteen is meegenomen. Dit houdt opnieuw in dat Natalie die nacht nog terug is geweest in haar hotelkamer nadat ze de drie jongens had verlaten!
WAT NU, IS ZE DAN ECHT VERTROKKEN OMDAT ZE VAN HAAR MOEDER AF WILDE? IETS WAT IEDEREEN ZO LANGZAMERHAND GOED KAN BEGRIJPEN!

According to local radio in Aruba : two friends of Natalee are now saying that they have seen Natalee in the hotel on MONDAY, the day after she was at Carlos & Charlie and the radio is also telling that a video camera from Natalee which she used to film during the night at C&C has been taken away by Beth FROM HER ROOM at the hotel. ( Which means that she was back at the hotel Sunday night or morning )

Posted by: Jean Martinique | Nov 13, 2005 9:00:31 PM

Aruban radio? What took them so long to come out with this STORY! lol

Just maybe when Dompig and Company goes to MB and takes statements from the students, someone can state specifically that Natalee was indeed seen on Monday. Haven't heard a thing about or from the mother of one of the students that claims her son gave her some critical information and she tried to pass it to Fox but was ignored so she (claims) she attemmpted somewhere else but ignored again. Can't help but wonder (1)why she didn't contact the FBI and (2)is she just grandstanding and attempting to personally capitalize on the situation and get some publicity. I read so many blogs, I don't keep up with the sources; maybe it was Dans. I didn't know Natalee, but sure miss her. God bless you, Natalee.

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