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What I would like to open with tonight is an assessment of all our information. The case of Natalee's disappearance has two components: first, Natalee's absence and second Natalee's disposition. [Read More]

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New Video update on MSNBC Tv with Dan Abrams
About the Dr Phil announcement


http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3036652/

COMMENT:
It seems like they feel if they say 'gang raped' enough, it will become true. Although, I can't imagine for the life of me why anyone would want to think that. If it were my child, that is the last thing in the world I would want to believe happened. Even hearing it breaks my heart....

Posted by: donnaanna | Nov 7, 2005 3:27:06 PM

RESONSE: DONNANNA...WHAT DO YOU THINK when Deepak answers says "yes" to "did all three of you" have sex with her, means? That Natalie was willing? nothing in HER character says that she was willing wanted to have sex with the three of them. Her mother said she was a virgin and if she was not, that does not mean that she would EVER want to have sex with those three men. She was a victim of filthy lustful gang rape and it is not that hard to come to that conclusion, unless you are a personal friend of the three rapists!! Are you?

The Beth bashers are so silly at times. She and Natalee´s father are on the SAME page, and always have been.

They are just playing good cop / bad cop . . .

Posted by: Diedramichelle | Nov 7, 2005 5:13:25 PM

I totally agree...I have read where Dave has said they talk, etc.

anyone here about the atlanta 5 pm broadcast?

if one watches his interviews compared to hers it is textbook good cop / bad cop play. Kjeane I am sure they do talk ,thans! They are missing the same baby. Saying that they don´t get along is pure fantasy

hmm I am waiting here at the interent cafe for info ;( suppose there is no breaking news for now..sigh

http://amw.com/features/feature_story_detail.cfm?id=827

link to cross story (thanks to gagal)

Posted by: dalejrfan | Nov 7, 2005 2:02:32 PM

Cross with NH can have different meanings and backgrounds.
Maybe it was placed there with good intentions.
Some people in Aruba tend to place a sort of memorial (mostly a cross) at the spot where a loved one was killed in, for instance, a traffic accident.
Yearly they put flowers by that cross on the date of the fatal accident.

exactly this is done by mostly latin roman catholics to show where someone passed away.Usually on highways. The fisherman are usually from spanish speaking countries like Dominican Republic, and Colombia.

it is not that hard to come to that conclusion, unless you are a personal friend of the three rapists!! Are you?

Posted by: Sharon | Nov 7, 2005 5:15:46 PM

Sharon, I am not friends with any of them. I don't believe that the Deepak tape is real. Nor do I believe that any of the 'confessions' were statements made by any of the suspects. To believe that Natalee was a victim of what you think she was a victim of - would be a GIANT leap for me. This is not a BHT bash, I think the U.S. media has acted totally irresponsibly by propagating the rumours and the lies.

WHAT DO YOU THINK when Deepak answers says "yes" to "did all three of you" have sex with her, means?

Posted by: Sharon | Nov 7, 2005 5:15:46 PM

I THOUGHT that Deepak did NOT answer "yes" to THAT question; and Deepak via his attorney has confirmed my thought.

COMMENT:

GEORGE AND DONNAANA....watch the news tonight and you might think differently than you now do....:o)

George: on the tape Deepak does answer "yes" to the question of "did all three of you have sex with her"....It is on the tape...and it is real!!

Donnanna: To think it is a far stretch that those three raped her is being very nieve Donnanna - you are way out there in a fog Donnanna in what you could possible believe...
hey I've got some swamp land for sale in Florida.....

Was the announcement of news about Natalee Holloway case by WSBTV a hoax?

Can anyone please tell us about the 5pm news out of Atalanta, Georgia? Please!

Dave is on MSNBC and he's upset

Dave:
Family is at the end of the line, and will take it up with the Dutch Gov and the Atty General. The Minister of Justice mentioned about a month ago, "just leave it alone and it will go away", so we know where we stand with him now. We know where his approach is now.

Dompig has attacked Beth, by putting out on the island that she may be involved somehow in Natalee's disappearance and making money off of it. So it looks like to me that he is trying to incite anti-Beth sentiment across Aruba.

Joe: People are asking what they can do to help. Is this the time we go to Gov. Riley and go for a Boycott of Aruba? Is it that time yet or are you going to play this out a little longer?

Dave: Well the people of Aruban have elected their officials, and their officials have spoken. And we have elected officials and we'll let the elected officials speak.

Whatever the Government decides, that's what we'll dol.

_________________

Was the announcement of news about Natalee Holloway case by WSBTV a hoax?

Posted by: k.jeanne | Nov 7, 2005 5:45:16 PM

What do you think?

Bigfish

The station Website says it's Tuesday at 5pm when it will reveal details...not today.

from the station website:

Tuesday at 5pm Channel 2 reveals what you haven't heard about Natalee Holloway's disappearance, and talks to local investigators who think they know where she is now.

the channel 2 news said BHT hired 2 pi they said when in aruba they discovered up to 5 native girls that the 3 boys had slipped drugs to and took them places for sex they said they bragged about how good they where at doing this and would target visitors and do this the night before they new they where leaving the island by the time they would figure out anything happened they would be on a plane they also say they believe they know where she is but you have to watch tomorrow night to find out. BHT already has their report.

Tuesday at 5pm Channel 2 reveals what you haven't heard about Natalee Holloway's disappearance, and talks to local investigators who think they know where she is now

So we have to wait again :(

today is monday. the atlanta tv station says that the holloway reveal will be at 5 pm on Tuesday on their website. am i reading this wrong?

sue, i was typing as u were posting. thanks, right.

Copy and paste is faster ;)

I don't think that was it at all, I think there is a plan for all things happening, it's well planned for Beth to break the news and not Dave.

Posted by: MOM | Nov 7, 2005 5:09:32 PM

Does that mean then when Dave said he didn't want to give out the name so as not to compromise the investigation he was lying?

it is a 2 part investigative report the 1st was what i just posted the rest will be tom- night

Excuse me? They slipped the drug to 'native girls' who they knew were leaving the next day??? This does not make sense.

no no no they got so confident at what they where doing with the visitors they started doing this on native girls.

Thanks to all who posted answer about Atlanta news report:)

Sad part of that is( if that is report) that isnt anything new and 3 girls had come forward and then changed their stories..
So reports lead us to believe IMO If these girl were assaulted they feel to threatened to press charges. which makes this case all the sadder

Okay so Tuesday it is.
.................
The Aruban government is spinning the clock down it is definately a waiting game. If they appear to be doing something that seems to be in the form of action (searching/questioning) it makes it look like it's just a slow process but they are "doing the best we can".

*how many of you have heard that line before?*

I have.

It's a bureacratic method of biding time, putting folks off and hoping they will go away or give up.

I've no doubt they are hoping Beth and Dave will give up their search.

I look forward to and anticipate what will come forth from our elected officials as an advisory for travel to Aruba.

Sorry, alw, I was reading too fast!

What do you think?

Bigfish

Posted by: Bigfish | Nov 7, 2005 5:53:51 PM


Very discouraging are my thoughts, Bigfish...

no prob- they also said that they turned this report over to the FBI not ALE. this info could be a reason that equa search has returned.

When Did Equa Search return to island or is that week and half ago they were there??

according to their website they are still there as well as the repot on amw.

Dan did you have a way to see this news segment? what do you think?

Darlin they all left about 3 days after Dave Holloway left.. they couldnt sit around and do anything waiting for the Aruban police to make request to FBI for special sonor equipment that needed to be brought in.. Tim from Equa search was quite upset with there lack of response and stated so on Greta and MSNBC

Tuesday at 5pm Channel 2 reveals what you haven't heard about Natalee Holloway's disappearance, and talks to local investigators who think they know where she is now

So we have to wait again :(

Posted by: Sue | Nov 7, 2005 6:02:47 PM


"where she is now"...does that mean these PI's think she is alive, somewhere?

But Poor Beth, she doesn't have the money to pursue a "live" Natalee...

sorry sue..............did not hear that

Wonder why Joe Mamammo hasn't paid for F-16's to search for Tara Grinstead? Why isn't MSM watching every step of that investigation? Why arent' the parents of Tara allowed to tell the GA authorities how to run their investigation? Why is it taking so long to get a resolution to Tara's case? Why haven't they hauled suspects in and browbeaten them and held them without benefit of an attorney? Why haven't meetings with Condi Rice and the governor been set up? We need to contact Tara's parents and tell them to start calling any potential suspects murderer and/or rapist. Why hasn't MSM demanded the names of potential suspects? Why haven't they been publicly named? Come on, let's see the same set of standards...

There is Still a One Million Dollar Reward For Natalee's safe Return... Money can TALK .. just has to be the right person

I know If I knew anything I would be squealing like a pig (everyone has a price )

They just found tara's alarm clock under her bed they are thinking that could have been a sign of struggle. They have also brought in some of the best SARS dogs around

Darlin they all left about 3 days after Dave Holloway left.. they couldnt sit around and do anything waiting for the Aruban police to make request to FBI for special sonor equipment that needed to be brought in.. Tim from Equa search was quite upset with there lack of response and stated so on Greta and MSNBC

Posted by: Sue | Nov 7, 2005 6:34:18 PM

Do people just forget that Aruba is a foreign country and things have to be done through diplomatic channels? Do people really think all it takes is a phone call to the US Gov't for any type of request and it gets done immediately? Easy enough to blame the Aruban government...who do people blame when the US government denies the request for any use of equipment? Do people think this type of equipment is just sitting around and not being used for more important searches?

Do people just forget that Aruba is a foreign country and things have to be done through diplomatic channels? Do people really think all it takes is a phone call to the US Gov't for any type of request and it gets done immediately? Easy enough to blame the Aruban government...who do people blame when the US government denies the request for any use of equipment? Do people think this type of equipment is just sitting around and not being used for more important searches

Darlin,
Well just according to Dave Holloway and Tim Everything was lined up Aruba just needed to make the formal request and there response was ( we dont have time to write all these little letters)

Posted by: RealityBased | Nov 7, 2005 6:38:52 PM
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Damn what an idiot.

How do you know i am a darling? i could be a beastly man with hair growing out of my ears, long toe nails and no teeth

Well I call Everyone Darlin beats calling people dirty names

you remind me of my hair dresser.....better than a beastly man....giggle

"Beth claimed last night that he is the one with the boat that took Natalee's body out 10 miles and was launched at the place where the memorial is. While Dave woulnd't give out the kid's name, Beth had no problem. Of course she was pissed that LE had the audacity to talk to the father first.

Posted by: RealityBased | Nov 7, 2005 5:02:30 PM"

Gee I am shocked she was P'O that Dave upstaged her.
Isn't that just like the "grieving mother".

I heard that the Hague will be taking over the investigation.

LMFAO

Where Did you hear that Brooke??

Darlin,
Well just according to Dave Holloway and Tim Everything was lined up Aruba just needed to make the formal request and there response was ( we dont have time to write all these little letters)

Posted by: Sue | Nov 7, 2005 6:45:42 PM

I find it highly suspicious that a US citizen can make arrangements for federal equipment to be sent to a foreign country at their whim. I would be more inclined to believe that Equusearch and/or Dave may have been instructed on how to go about "asking" via diplomatic channels. But if you can show me an instance where a private citizen has accomplished such a feat before I may reconsider my opinion.

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