Evidently, broadcasts suggest it has to do with the three boys.
Georgia? PI? T J Ward?
Today at 5pm Channel 2 reveals new information exposed by Georgia investigators in the Natalee Holloway case.
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What I would like to open with tonight is an assessment of all our information. The case of Natalee's disappearance has two components: first, Natalee's absence and second Natalee's disposition.
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Is this just another twist of old news being thrown back in to make it look like its new? How many people can search and look into this case befor words and what actually happened get jumbled into a giant mess?
Posted by: goodgirl. | Monday, November 07, 2005 at 12:50 PM
dan,
"new information exposed by Georgia investigators". Hmmm, yesterday, gagal kept trying to tell us this, wondering what Georgia investigators had to do with all this. Well, I guess we will find out at 5!
Posted by: bizarre | Monday, November 07, 2005 at 12:52 PM
I heard this many times already yesterday and today during commercial breaks.
You just never know any more who knows what and what is truth and not truth.
Stayed tuned. Right after Opra today at 5:00 on Channel 2 here in Hot lanta...LOL
Then it will be known. :o)
Posted by: ! | Monday, November 07, 2005 at 01:00 PM
If you think TJ Ward had something important to say (assuming this is him) where do you think he would reveal it? Being the mediawhore that he is I would think he would at least want a national audience for his new information.
Posted by: dave | Monday, November 07, 2005 at 01:14 PM
This news has everything to do with it be November sweeps month.
If a TV station really had new info, they wouldn't wait until 5:00 PM to announce it.
MrsLevy
Posted by: MrsLevy | Monday, November 07, 2005 at 01:23 PM
& this will be announced on tv tonight.......why?
sorry i am getting just a little cynical.......i would hope ...just once......that new important information had been given to law enforcement...who act upon it
Posted by: chip | Monday, November 07, 2005 at 01:26 PM
TJ Ward is about as full of chit as they come.Regardless Beth will be some channel stating it as the gospel.That much you can count on.
Posted by: bizman | Monday, November 07, 2005 at 01:37 PM
Am I the only one having problems with getting to the 279 discussion? Also, what did gagal say about this new information, did she know any details? Thanks!
Posted by: dalejrfan | Monday, November 07, 2005 at 01:44 PM
TJ Ward is about as full of chit as they come.Regardless Beth will be some channel stating it as the gospel.That much you can count on.
There's no need to use every topic or every post to invoke a name because you are unhappy about certain things. The topic was the report, not BHT. People for or against aruba or BHT need to stop stretching every point to fit an agenda.
Posted by: Dan | Monday, November 07, 2005 at 01:46 PM
will this turn out to old news recycled??? any one here anything more about the cross...how come they did check to see if Natalee is there? who knows?
Posted by: sydney | Monday, November 07, 2005 at 01:48 PM
I have been reading this for a couple of weeks now..very interesting stuff...
Posted by: sydney | Monday, November 07, 2005 at 01:49 PM
Posted by: Dan | Nov 7, 2005 1:46:15 PM
Thank you !!!
Posted by: ! | Monday, November 07, 2005 at 01:50 PM
maybe tj got to finally use his voice analysis box
Posted by: lola | Monday, November 07, 2005 at 01:50 PM
I heard on one of the Friday tabloid shows that a new witness has come forward and told the police that they saw someone taking a body out to sea and dumping it. This is probably the new witness that the Channel 2 show is talking about. If it is the first time they have reported on it they call it new or breaking news when in fact it has been out for a while. Remember the phil tapes? Almost a month after he aired his show some talk shows were advertising it as breaking news when in fact it was old news. I would like to know who discovered this new witness. Jossy, maybe, or perhaps Art Woods?
Posted by: FlightofFancy | Monday, November 07, 2005 at 01:55 PM
any one here anything more about the cross...how come they did check to see if Natalee is there? who knows?
Posted by: sydney | Nov 7, 2005 1:48:32 PM
I too would like to know more info on the cross, did not get to see it on the news, is there anyone here that can fill us in? Thanks.
Posted by: dalejrfan | Monday, November 07, 2005 at 01:58 PM
http://amw.com/features/feature_story_detail.cfm?id=827
link to cross story (thanks to gagal)
Posted by: dalejrfan | Monday, November 07, 2005 at 02:02 PM
This news has everything to do with it be November sweeps month.
If a TV station really had new info, they wouldn't wait until 5:00 PM to announce it.
MrsLevy
Posted by: MrsLevy | Nov 7, 2005 1:23:19 PM
I totally agree -- anything important that was "new" wouldn't be put on hold like this. It's probably no big revelation...just a tease.
Posted by: dolly | Monday, November 07, 2005 at 02:02 PM
Nice to see a little bit of even-handedness around here.
Posted by: notdave | Monday, November 07, 2005 at 02:08 PM
Why on earth would it take 5+ months to learn of a supposed body dumping witness? Regardless, this might explain the recent water searches and the need for Dompig to interview a mystery witness, according to DH.
Posted by: berry | Monday, November 07, 2005 at 02:11 PM
There's no need to use every topic or every post to invoke a name because you are unhappy about certain things. The topic was the report, not BHT. People for or against aruba or BHT need to stop stretching every point to fit an agenda.
Posted by: Dan | Nov 7, 2005 1:46:15 PM
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Dan,
I'm not stretching the topic to fit an agenda.I am only stating the truth.
I certainly am not unhappy with anything to do with the case.Why should I be as it does not affect me at all?
Only stating the truth,bet on it she will appear and run with it as the gospel.
Posted by: bizman | Monday, November 07, 2005 at 02:12 PM
Only stating the truth,bet on it she will appear and run with it as the gospel.
Posted by: bizman | Nov 7, 2005 2:12:13 PM
I find it hard to value your opinion when you are guessing what might happen. It's certainly not the truth yet. That's what I believe Dan means by stretching.
Posted by: VASteve | Monday, November 07, 2005 at 02:17 PM
I find it hard to value your opinion when you are guessing what might happen. It's certainly not the truth yet. That's what I believe Dan means by stretching.
Posted by: VASteve | Nov 7, 2005 2:17:30 PM
Wait and see VASteve an dif I am wrong I will promptly admit it,fair enough.
Posted by: bizman | Monday, November 07, 2005 at 02:18 PM
Wait and see VASteve an dif I am wrong I will promptly admit it,fair enough.
Posted by: bizman | Nov 7, 2005 2:18:59 PM
You understand what I posted, right? It has nothing to do with whether your guess turns out to be right or wrong, just that it is - in fact - a guess at this point.
See what I mean?
Posted by: VASteve | Monday, November 07, 2005 at 02:22 PM
Stayed tuned. Right after Opra today at 5:00 on Channel 2 here in Hot lanta...LOL
Then it will be known. :o)
Posted by: ! | Nov 7, 2005 1:00:41 PM
let us know, don't get that channel here in downtown PA. LOL
Posted by: cindi in pa | Monday, November 07, 2005 at 02:24 PM
Ah...nudder one of those "breaking news alert" in the Natalee Holloway case.
A tease to get you all to tune in, so their ratings will soar for november sweeps. They'll have you until the last few minutes of show time....
Then after that, and they got you suckered in to watch the whole program..you will find out..........its just another "broken record news alert".
Think: The boy that cried wolf.
Posted by: Donna | Monday, November 07, 2005 at 02:26 PM
Posted by: Donna | Nov 7, 2005 2:26:50 PM
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TRUE !!
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Posted by: cindi in pa | Nov 7, 2005 2:24:08 PM
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Will do ! :O)
Posted by: ! | Monday, November 07, 2005 at 02:33 PM
I certainly am not unhappy with anything to do with the case.Why should I be as it does not affect me at all?
Only stating the truth,bet on it she will appear and run with it as the gospel.
Posted by: bizman | Nov 7, 2005 2:12:13 PM
Everything in some way affects all of us. And if this case did not have an affect on you, you sure as hell wouldn't be here posting as much as you do.
Posted by: cindi in pa | Monday, November 07, 2005 at 02:41 PM
"Today at 5pm Local investigators uncover evidence of a gang rape ring, that may play a part in Natalee Holloway's disappearance. Channel 2 reveals what they've found."
This is what the link that Dan provided on the top of the page says.... gang rape ring?!?!? Wasn't that discounted months ago?
Posted by: donnaanna | Monday, November 07, 2005 at 02:55 PM
I heard over the weekend about this shrine which was a cross with rosary beads and the initials NH carved in the cross. THey learned that a friend of Joran's may have used his boat to dump the body into the water. They are saying he knows something. Will this be just another hoax.
Posted by: Fantasia | Monday, November 07, 2005 at 03:00 PM
Guess will have to wait & see. Thanks for the info Dan.
Posted by: OM | Monday, November 07, 2005 at 03:04 PM
COMMENT:
"Today at 5pm Local investigators uncover evidence of a gang rape ring, that may play a part in Natalee Holloway's disappearance. Channel 2 reveals what they've found."
This is what the link that Dan provided on the top of the page says.... gang rape ring?!?!? Wasn't that discounted months ago?
RESPONSE:
WOW...am just wondering and speculating...if Joran and the Kalpoe's have been the leaders in a ongoing rape ring... I had thought this before... They spot their target and go in for the rape drug added to a victims drink and then swiftly lead the victim out to their car and then duck tape and gang rape them either at the beach or Joran's apt. by his parents home. I bet there are others who knew all about this group all along and were too scared to talk until now!!! Ok will stay tune to see if I am right on this!!
Posted by: Sharon | Monday, November 07, 2005 at 03:05 PM
People for or against aruba or BHT need to stop stretching every point to fit an agenda.
Posted by: Dan | Nov 7, 2005 1:46:15 PM
Thank you , Dan!
Posted by: Justice for Natalee | Monday, November 07, 2005 at 03:11 PM
I'm sorry, but I really don't see these three boys as "leaders" of a rape ring. If anything, an accident.
Posted by: izabelle | Monday, November 07, 2005 at 03:16 PM
I'm sorry, but I really don't see these three boys as "leaders" of a rape ring. If anything, an accident.
Posted by: izabelle | Nov 7, 2005 3:16:06 PM
I agree, and find it quite curious that this would show up as 'breaking news' once again. I thought that even when trying very hard to get any rape victims to show up, all they got were pictures of 'a lovely girl in a bikini'. There was not one female willing to press charges, not even when their confidentiality was promised, and not even when reward money was offered to them.
It seems like they feel if they say 'gang raped' enough, it will become true. Although, I can't imagine for the life of me why anyone would want to think that. If it were my child, that is the last thing in the world I would want to believe happened. Even hearing it breaks my heart....
Posted by: donnaanna | Monday, November 07, 2005 at 03:27 PM
There's no need to use every topic or every post to invoke a name because you are unhappy about certain things. The topic was the report, not BHT. People for or against aruba or BHT need to stop stretching every point to fit an agenda.
Posted by: Dan | Nov 7, 2005 1:46:15 PM
OMG!! Dan is that really you saying that? Glad to see a glimmer of someone I read six months ago!! Natalee Holloway is still who is missing and murdered. Any new leads is closer to what happened to her.
Posted by: tadpole | Monday, November 07, 2005 at 03:40 PM
Well He is quite the Ladies man
http://zorpia.com/cgi/album.cgi?username=loverboy362&album_id=-1
Posted by: Sue | Monday, November 07, 2005 at 03:56 PM
Well He is quite the Ladies man
http://zorpia.com/cgi/album.cgi?username=loverboy362&album_id=-1
Posted by: Sue | Nov 7, 2005 3:56:49 PM
Am I imagining things, or are some of these pictures taken in Venezuela? Hmmmmm!!
Posted by: quickie | Monday, November 07, 2005 at 04:08 PM
No Quickie your not blind
What i think is funny is the one dated over a year ago of him in a bar underage
Posted by: Sue | Monday, November 07, 2005 at 04:14 PM
Well He is quite the Ladies man
http://zorpia.com/cgi/album.cgi?username=loverboy362&album_id=-1
Posted by: Sue | Nov 7, 2005 3:56:49 PM
He added me as his friend on there. And he sent me a messege the other day. I know it's silly, but I'm trying to buddy up a little with him just to get to know him a little more. He is very sexual so far..
Posted by: Katie | Monday, November 07, 2005 at 04:45 PM
this better be good , and not some tease
Posted by: diedramichelle | Monday, November 07, 2005 at 04:45 PM
Well Katie you just blew that..People are watching these boards and Letting him know folks are watching..
Posted by: Sue | Monday, November 07, 2005 at 04:47 PM
Katie,
If you get too close you might be next - good luck with that!
- Sol
Posted by: sol rosenberg | Monday, November 07, 2005 at 04:49 PM
Something is fixing to come on Scarborough in a few minutes about Holloway case.....doesn't sound good. I don't know what it is though yet
Posted by: ustt | Monday, November 07, 2005 at 04:51 PM
really what do you mean it doesn´t sound good? as in boring , or as not good for the outcome in regards to Natalee?
Posted by: diedramichelle | Monday, November 07, 2005 at 04:53 PM
So who is the Koen kid? Beth claimed last night that he is the one with the boat that took Natalee's body out 10 miles and was launched at the place where the memorial is. While Dave woulnd't give out the kid's name, Beth had no problem. Of course she was pissed that LE had the audacity to talk to the father first.
Posted by: RealityBased | Monday, November 07, 2005 at 05:02 PM
I have the upmost respect for America's Most Wanted. That cross in that particular location (instead of the lighthouse or another stretch of beach or near the Holiday Inn...) is very telling to me. Here in Florida it is almost expected that within days after a death occurs at a location a white cross appears close by.
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I'm not going to be a naysayer at any news. I understand how people can become discouraged after hopes have been dashed again and again. One never knows if the next bit of information will be the thread that sews the quilt together.
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I can't get Channel 2. Someone post what's up.
Posted by: FloridaPatty | Monday, November 07, 2005 at 05:03 PM
yes please post. . . .
Posted by: diedramichelle | Monday, November 07, 2005 at 05:07 PM
really what do you mean it doesn´t sound good? as in boring , or as not good for the outcome in regards to Natalee?
Posted by: diedramichelle | Nov 7, 2005 4:53:30 PM
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ok, I listened to it. Joe S was interviewing Dave Holloway re the letter and the "hand washing" letter back to the Gov of Alabama. I guess what Joe was meaning "looks bad" is that now there is more finger pointing to somebody else having the power of the investigation when the family finally goes to the Aruban govt to change the players. Now it's THE HAGUE....
Joe asked will the family now request a boycott.
Dave said they will allow our elected officials do what they need to do (gov of Alabama).
Looks like we are going to the Hague, I guess.
Posted by: ustt | Monday, November 07, 2005 at 05:08 PM
So who is the Koen kid? Beth claimed last night that he is the one with the boat that took Natalee's body out 10 miles and was launched at the place where the memorial is. While Dave woulnd't give out the kid's name, Beth had no problem. Of course she was pissed that LE had the audacity to talk to the father first.
Posted by: RealityBased | Nov 7, 2005 5:02:30 PM
I don't think that was it at all, I think there is a plan for all things happening, it's well planned for Beth to break the news and not Dave.
Posted by: MOM | Monday, November 07, 2005 at 05:09 PM
USTT thanks so much , now if only someone could tell us what happened on the atl news.
Mom I agree there is a plan,
The Beth bashers are so silly at times. She and Natalee´s father are on the SAME page, and always have been.
They are just playing good cop / bad cop . . .
Posted by: Diedramichelle | Monday, November 07, 2005 at 05:13 PM