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I don't think she is all that innocent.

This story is plain pathetic! Two lives lost over nothing! Why did this girl need a 'new life'? She has to have some blame in this, who runs off with someone willingly that just blew the *hit away of your parents! People like to throw the sociopath theory around at times, seems this girl may be one! What is truly remarkable is most likely we can't blame this murder on 'drugs', that lends one to speculation about some serious personality disorders for both of these young teens!

What would her lawyer say other than that. I still see her in that red jacket next to an other girl in a black jacket at her parents's funeral. I think she knew of a plan. Its creepy and sad at the same time.

Is'nt that considered "accessory to murder"?

given that ludwig's lawyer is pressing for preservation of digital information, kara's lawyer may be in for a big surprise. or a bigger surprise than that she went willingly.

she may hold more value as a witness than as a defendent

If she helped him choose where to go or so much as told him to turn here or there, then she assisted in his escape. This should earn her jail time.

I have little sympathy for someone who can cozzy up to the person who just slaughtered here parents. What kind of values does she have?

I think failure to persue her for her after the fact participation would be an assult on justice.

I wouldn't be surprised if some blackmailing has been going on here, with the pictures, and with threats to siblings...

This is just like the movie BADLANDS with Martin Sheen and Sissy Spacek based on the true story of Charles Starkweather and Caril Fugate. Starkweather killed her father and they took off. He killed more people while they were on the run. They both were convicted. He was executed. She just got out of prison a few years ago. This happened in the 1950s.
What I dont get it this kid and the girl are supposed to be religious. Christians. So how does this fit in his religion?

she may hold more value as a witness than as a defendent

Posted by: questioner | Nov 22, 2005 4:37:13 PM

Doult if they really need her as a witness....they have him left to right on this.

I believe if I were her I'd be worry about charges soon.

I keep hearing that they will use her as a witness. Didn't he confess? He described how he murdered her parents. How many steps he took and so on. I think that they will use him as a witness and that will spare his evil life from the DP. For Kara she could be seeing her last days of freedom.


I find it strange that she would voluntarily get into a car with her parents' killer. And then there are the maps found in his car. Seems like something was planned; maybe the early morning delivery moved up the time table. There has also been the talk that she might be pregnant with his child. Here in PA, we try to ask questions and discuss this issue on a forum run by one of the regional newspapers. Unfortunately, the threads always get deleted in their entirety.

Isn't it interesting that it has come to this: a 14-year-old needs a lawyer to do her talking for her, manipulating public opinion and otherwise defending her actions. That's key. If she was completely innocent in this, she wouldn't need a defense attorney. I wonder who's paying his bill.

Let's be frank too, we are still dealing with a KID, a confused kid, perhaps a kid manipulated by the 18-year-old. It's not like he hadn't done that before to get laid. God was his trip, just like death was Charlie's trip. But Charlie let them think he was Jesus. This guy was evil as evil can be, using God to get underage girls.
Unless the computer shows otherwise, we'll never know how much she knew in advance. And even still, how man times do 14-year-olds want their parents dead? And of course it's just anger/frustration because they haven't matured enough to say how they feel.
Jury's still out on this one. She's obviously not "innocent" but lets not forget the animal who did the manipulating. He was old enough to know better.

So is she not going to be held accountable for anything? Because she is a child of God? Wow! It sounds like the authorities are just going to let her be. Yes, she has a lot to deal with. Perhaps court ordered counseling at the very very least.

I have also thought that perhaps she is pregnant. I read somewhere, maybe here, about a chat Kara had online with a friend who thought that a certain unmentioned "plan" had gone way too far and this friend threatened to tell her parents and Kara's. I'm sure this plan had something to do with running off with David to get married and perhaps a baby.


"Jury's still out on this one. She's obviously not "innocent" but lets not forget the animal who did the manipulating."

please, let's not forget that 14 year olds aren't very innocent, either

she probably manipulated him too...doing dirty things to him/for him so that he'd help her

She supposedly went running after his car to be with him. I bet the lawyer will now claim that she had this "syndrome" whereby she couldn't/wouldn't leave him.

It's either Stockholm syndrome or there is alot more to this story.

Well she may have manipulated him but he has a history of this..if you read about his trip to Hawaii and how he used the brother in Christ thing to land that girl. Plus the story about the barn....sounds like it was an excuse to make out with girls after youth group meetings...so the history of manipulation was there. Shooting someone's parents because they wouldn't let him date their daughter who was 4 years younger...is pretty scary. If it was for that reason alone...it was just a matter of time before he shot someone for being denied something he wanted...and thats sociopathic.

Let me just throw this out there--14 and 18 are worlds apart, and it seems to me he was too old a cat to be fooled by (or manipulated by) a kitten. Just not likely. Possible? Maybe. But he was smart enough to use God to get laid, so I think he was probably smart enough to see past whatever little game she tried to pull.
And let me add that this discussion we are having---that she may have played a role in this---is exactly what his defense attorney hopes we will talk about. Because if we fall into it, a jury might as well...
His finger was on the trigger, not hers.

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