Beth Twitty: Update

Just a quick update on a Beth Twitty media story:

Mrs. Twitty came with a group of American journalists who were at all times walking with her. And although she told the Strategic Commission that she did not know that some media would follow her to Aruba, it was obvious that they had a very close relationship. Her friend was in the car with an MSNBC producer, for example.

There is a report which suggests those recently filming with Beth Twitty in Aruba identified themselves as being with Fox. I'm unaware if Fox actually had a presence on the island at the time but have confirmed that MSNBC did have a film crew assigned in Aruba that day. Looks like subterfuge might be the name of the game all around these days.

Great journalistic ethics, if so. Generally accepted standards call for members of the media to identify themselves honestly as such when asked and answering wouldn't put someone in harm's way. This is getting more Enquirer-esque all the time.

Comments

[Bigfish]

Thanks Dan! :)
Bigfish

[berry]

The interesting thing to me is that Dompig, or someone, managed to keep the cameras herded away from the police station, when Ms Twitty finally arrived for her meeting, depriving them of the media op.

I'm not certain or willing to say Ms Twitty purposely gathered various media for her last trip to the island - but it's possible.

I'm trying to get past all of these stunts and games to try to see what on earth is being accomplished. Bottom line is, she came, after a 2 month delay and stayed about as long as last summer's Medjet.

Hopefully the police got some answers, the DA some insights, BT some feedback and the opportunity to turn over a new, improved statement of events, to replace the other, supposedly ALE edited, version.

But what has happened to the 3 rape victims, the Skeeter's tape, the mystery witness, the missing bone, the insensitive Det Jacobs and all the other tidbits that supposedly should have landed the trio back in jail a month ago?

[nursemind]

Thanks Dan. IMO Beth has thrown all scruples to the wind and said to h*** with everyone, I'll do what I well please.

[slappy]

scuba said in the forum that the guy told her he was from FOX.

If they were from MSNBC why would they say they were from FOX? Are they ashamed of being from MSNBC or jsut embarrassed in general by their covert operation and decided to pin it on Fox?

Doesn't anyone tell the truth anymore?

[Dan]

Tickle me elmo

[Bella]

Thanks Dan. IMO Beth has thrown all scruples to the wind and said to h*** with everyone, I'll do what I well please.

Posted by: nursemind | Nov 6, 2005 10:30:15 PM

Agreed

[slappy]

Are you married Dan? Have kids? Or does your life revolve around the numbers of visits to your idiotic blog?

Never mind, we know the answer.

Posted by: Elmo | Nov 6, 2005 10:09:50 PM

Why do you hate men in general and dan riehl in particular?

don't you think personal questions and conjecture have no place in a post that you want others to consider as normal and legitimate?

why don't you stick to the facts and stop calling dan a "misogynist". You keep accusing him of this, using different names but always using that word so everybody knows it is you...jeez...

[berry]

Do I hate Dan? No. But I hate what he's doing - contributing to the pain of the family, and providing a forum and tacitly encouraging every anti-Beth, pro-"Aruba Truth" nutcase and/or Tourist Board member on the planet to post hate-filled messages on this blog.

He should be ashamed of himself.

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It is just plain unrealistic to think that every word or opinion uttered on a board should be carefully crafted to not suggest any disrespect, criticism or suspicion of the family members in this case or any case.

Sometimes grassroots critical thinking or "armchair sleuthing" can provide ideas to people who need them and can make use of them. It is fair to say that some family members have become regular media presences and have invited scrutiny.

Being a parent of a missing person does not automatically immunize you from public comment that is sometimes negative or hostile.

I have seen much unabashed support of BT/Jug. There is also a focus from many, relevant to their curious, at times, behaviors and statements, and that is fair game for discussion, IMO.

[greenwing]

As stated numerous times, you are clearly a misogynist. All of your Beth-hating, Natalee died from orgasm, belly-shot slut posts aren't "helping" anyone, despite your misguided statements to the contrary. They're only helping you demonstrate to the world your hatred toward women and specifically to the mother of a murdered and raped daughter.

Are you married Dan? Have kids? Or does your life revolve around the numbers of visits to your idiotic blog?

Never mind, we know the answer.

Posted by: Elmo | Nov 6, 2005 10:09:50 PM

Who was murdered and raped? Seems there is a lot of evidence missing of this.

[!]

Personally, I do not understand what the "big deal" is about the media huddled around Beth while she was in ARUBA. Who cares !
She has had death treats "I heard" so if there was news media there that stayed with her during her trip more power to her. At least no harm came to her while she was there and I am glad she had a safe trip!
God bless Beth Holloway !

[Robert]

Dan is not an being cruel to Beth. Beth is bringing all this on herself with the total gargabe she has dished out without proof. Wouls that she wouls shut her mouth and let the police do their job.

[gagal_05]

Personally, I do not understand what the "big deal" is about the media huddled around Beth while she was in ARUBA. Who cares !
She has had death treats "I heard" so if there was news media there that stayed with her during her trip more power to her. At least no harm came to her while she was there and I am glad she had a safe trip!
God bless Beth Holloway !

Posted by: ! | Nov 6, 2005 11:09:54 PM

Obviously BT cares since she hasn't missed a chance to get her face in front of the camera for 5 months. Remember Natalee who this is suppose to be about? Funny how BT has made it all about herself.

As for death threats, where did you hear that? From BT? More sensationalism for the media from BT. Talk about sick. This woman is a slick manipulator. How do I know - reading posts like yours.

[Robert]

Let me try that again. It is late and I am half asleep. Beth has been her own enemy by the way she has acted and continues to act. She does not need Dan, she makes a big enough ass of herself.

[berry]

As stated numerous times, you are clearly a misogynist. All of your Beth-hating, Natalee died from orgasm, belly-shot slut posts aren't "helping" anyone, despite your misguided statements to the contrary.

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Actually there is more venom and hostility in those sentences, meant to "support" Natalee and her mom, than any post I can readily recall wherein, supposedly, Dan criticized them.

I don't read everyting Dan or anyone else posts, but I sense more frustration and annoyance from Dan, that any real misogynic issue.

[Not a Hand Wringer]

Elmo accuses Dan of being a hater.

To prove his point, Elmo launches into a hate-filled tirade.

Nice going Elmo. You win the buffoon of the day award.

[berry]

Darn. I meant EVERYTHING.

[Shonane]

Dan is right. I read newspaper articles where Beth denied that she had any press with her. She was responding to a comment by Domping that she had press with her. I don't understand why she lies about these things.

Elmo - you appear to have some anger problem and difficulty handling the facts that have been coming out. I haven't noticed anything about Dan comments that suggest he hates women as you seem to believe.

[26ANDCOUNTING]

If BT was being threatened why would she bring the media and not her husband?

[ustt]

There is a report which suggests those recently filming with Beth Twitty in Aruba identified themselves as being with Fox.
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(by Dan)
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oh my gosh, maybe the film crew was there sans leader GretaV. That has been known to happen and they WERE expecting Beth to get to meet with Dompig and Karin, which would have been news. But instead Beth got the famous "I'm too busy with low crime" letter.

[alert]

The name calling by Elmo sounds as if it could have come from the lips of Marcia and Jug/Jar.
Ah, Joe Mama, dah man too.

[woebegone]

Ah, Joe Mama, dah man too.

Posted by: alert | Nov 6, 2005 11:29:50 PM

Nahhh. I doubt Joe could spell misogynist

[chip]

Posted by: Elmo | Nov 6, 2005 10:57:14 PM

dan allows posts like yours on HIS blog
what does that tell you?

[slappy]

hell, i had to copy and past...lol

[Shonane]

Elmo - Why do you keep bringing up this died by orgasm theory? You really hated that one didn't you? There was someone named Anna who used to comment here who did the same thing - hanging on to that one like a bulldog.

I was participating this discussion the night Dan shared with the people on line that night that this was one theory that one person had told him about.Apparently it was medically based theory. Don't think he went with that one with much more interest that we did, because he never pursued it after that. But here you are bringing it up again like it was some part of a major ongoing discussion. It was not. Suppose it was one of those less that 1% chancers, just like some of the other ideas.

It is far better to come up with some ideas about what may have happened, than to decide what happened on day one and to continue to defend that in spite of no evidence, all the while discounting any other possibilities.

[hockeygirl]

Boohoohoo to Aruba's trade industry.

I think Aruba needs a lesson about the good guys and the bad guys again and which is which. A brush up course on who gets investigated and prosecuted after a murder, i.e. the suspects, and not the people who assist in solving or investigating the crime, should be mandatory.

And talk about threats and people that live in glass houses...what does "go into a direct confrontation" mean? I don't know, but it sure doesn't sound good. And threatening to put Beth in jail?!!!! They need to stop smoking the drapes down there.

Wait a minute...I've got it: someone should get Joran and the "boys" to get on CNN and call for an Aruban boycott. THEN they'll get put in jail...!

[cathy]

if we weren't desperately intersted in finding the mssing person, alive and well and i finding the truth of what happened to her; we might think that we are witnessing a reality television program ala jessica simpson.

[lefty]

Beth is doing the only thing she believes will help her find the truth. Sitting back and keeping quite will not gain her a thing. She does need to assist the ALE in gaining access to interviewing the MB Kids, what can it hurt?

Go Beth, never give up until you find the truth.

[26ANDCOUNTING]

Beth is doing the only thing she believes will help her find the truth. Sitting back and keeping quite will not gain her a thing.

Posted by: lefty | Nov 7, 2005 12:10:41 AM

How do you know keeping quite won't gain her anything? So basically you're saying Dave has not helped this investigation at all.

[!]

Obviously BT cares since she hasn't missed a chance to get her face in front of the camera for 5 months. Remember Natalee who this is suppose to be about? Funny how BT has made it all about herself.
As for death threats, where did you hear that? From BT? More sensationalism for the media from BT. Talk about sick. This woman is a slick manipulator. How do I know - reading posts like yours.
Posted by: gagal_05 | Nov 6, 2005 11:16:45 PM
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Back off jerk,
You are obviously...
Just another one of the people that sit around on "Liars corner" I see, like in those "small" hicky Georgia towns. LoL.
Anything you have to say sickens me. Sad you have no life with nothing more to do than stay on this blog 24/7 and critize others and especially Beth Holloway.
Problem is you are extremly jealous of Beth as she has kept the story about her daughter in the spotlight as she seeks answers to the where abouts of her precious beautiful daughter. And..you find something wrong with a mothers love for her daughter ?
You are the truley sick one, not Beth and damn sure not me!

[annie]

I am not sure this matters. Beth is bound to have media follow her no matter where she is these days. It doesn't matter if she is in Timbucktoo and they will follow her. Is this unsual? I don't think so given that this story still is unsolved and the media is still hoping to learn something new. I am sure Beth made a lot of friends in the media with such coverage. It would be somewhat natural to expect that when you are working with the same people day in and day out for months at a time you develop a friendship. I guess I am not sure I am understanding the implications here? Am I missing something?

While an interesting tidbit, what I guess I would rather learn is whether or not any direction has been set in this investigation. Are they still maintaining that the three boys are the primary suspects? I think that is what people want to see and they want to see results (Natalee found).

[lotusjani]

Dan is not an being cruel to Beth. Beth is bringing all this on herself with the total gargabe she has dished out without proof. Wouls that she wouls shut her mouth and let the police do their job.

Posted by: Robert
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Why don't you wouls that you wouls and shut your own damned mouth?
And Gaga5...you are crazier than hell, jealous of a poor suffering mother that has her daughter probably murdered,
And YES! Dan is a Beth Basher, and all of you should be ashamed of yourself, bunch of ignoramus.

[lotusjani]

Dan is not an being cruel to Beth. Beth is bringing all this on herself with the total gargabe she has dished out without proof. Wouls that she wouls shut her mouth and let the police do their job.

Posted by: Robert
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Why don't you wouls that you wouls and shut your own damned mouth?
And Gaga5...you are crazier than hell, jealous of a poor suffering mother that has her daughter probably murdered,
And YES! Dan is a Beth Basher, and all of you should be ashamed of yourselves, bunch of ignoramus.

[26ANDCOUNTING]

Posted by: ! | Nov 7, 2005 12:58:44 AM

Weren't you on here the other night preaching about not judging people because you then will be judged the same way? Can you say hypocrite?

[casara]

Did anyone see AMERICA'S MOST WANTED last night? Dompig himself made the statement that he had been told that "someone" on the morning of Natalee's disappearance launched a boat from a specific area of beach and took a body out to sea. When Dave and the reporter from AMERICA'S MOST WANTED went to check out that area, they found a wooden cross with a rosary on it...it had Natalee's initials engraved on it. It was the most heartbreaking piece of news footage I have yet to see. I will never forget that video of the cross...it will always be in my mind. It is hard to imagine Natalee being treated like mere chattel...used...abused...taken out to sea and dumped. I am so tired of feeling sick about this. I feel it is coming to an end...it seems we are getting closer to knowing what happened.
John Walsh of AMERICA'S MOST WANTED...you know, we all have to respect this MAN...look at his own loss...and what he has done to find the missing. Basically he feels this whole case has been botched...just like the Prime Minister of Aruba stated...as we all know the first ten days were the most important in gathering forensic evidence...but the suspects had the luxury of having the first ten days to clean house...we may never know...two innocent black security guards were ridden like cowboys by the Aruban LE, while those last seen with Natalee were given the luxury of precious TIME. AS PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT TOLD THE THREE BOYS: NO BODY...NO CRIME. MY BIG QUESTION IS HOW DID PAULUS KNOW THERE WOULD BE NO BODY...HOW?????
Thank heavens Beth is safe back in Bama, as I would never have had the courage to make this trip...not under these circumstances. God bless anyone who may have been with her on this trip back to Aruba.

[INDIANAREDNECK]

Dan has the thought ever entered your mind that Beth Holloway knows fifty times more about the evidence in this case than you do?

Even with all the in the know sources you claim to have in Aruba. Did you hear John Walsh talk tonight on Fox about the lies and rumors being spread about the Holloway family by people in Aruba. Gee I wonder if blogs sites are being used for that?

John Walsh is right this investigation has been a sham from the begining. Any one with an IQ above room temperature knows that. I guess that is why pro-Aruba posters do not get it.

[!]

Posted by: 26ANDCOUNTING | Nov 7, 2005 1:17:16 AM

And Liars corner awaits you as well. There is a space left for you on the end of the bench.

LOL

[26ANDCOUNTING]

Posted by: INDIANAREDNECK | Nov 7, 2005 1:45:08 AM

How would Beth know about any evidence if it's against Aruban law to share information regarding an ongoing investigation with anyone?

[JustMe]

What took John Walsh so long to get involved (interested?) in this story? Took him long enough to get on the Twitty Bandwagon. And now, we're supposed to believe that Walsh knows what happened in this investigation from Jump Street?

Yeah, right.

[casara]

How would Beth know about any evidence if it's against Aruban law to share information regarding an ongoing investigation with anyone?

Posted by: 26ANDCOUNTING | Nov 7, 2005 1:48:40 AM

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Give me a break. Why do you think the family hired two Aruban lawyers? Do you really think the family does not know more about the investigation than anyone else?
They held back so much until they finally realized they could not trust the Aruban authorities to truly do a competent investigation.
Can you tell me this? When the family gives information to the press in an interview, why do the Aruban authorities not counteract if the information is false or incorrect? It would be to their advantage to do so, and the press certainly would listen. Do you agree with this statement?

[casara]

What took John Walsh so long to get involved (interested?) in this story? Took him long enough to get on the Twitty Bandwagon. And now, we're supposed to believe that Walsh knows what happened in this investigation from Jump Street?

Yeah, right.

Posted by: JustMe | Nov 7, 2005 1:58:17 AM

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LOL...THAT WAS LAME...TRY AGAIN!
Who cares when it was on AMERICA'S MOST WANTED to do a piece on this...I have heard Walsh on programs speaking of this previously. He was HANNITY AND COMBS speaking of it along time ago. The POINT is what he is stating NOW. YOU EITHER TRUST WHAT JOHN WALSH SAYS OR YOU DON'T...DO YOU...OR NOT? IF YOU DON'T, WHY NOT?

[JustMe]

casara...you might not understand my post and you might not agree with it, but at least I know how to correctly spell, "Colmes". *smile*

What took Walsh so long to get involved? I think that's a legit question -- even if you don't.

[26ANDCOUNTING]

Posted by: casara | Nov 7, 2005 1:59:50 AM

Did you read what I wrote? Aruban law dictates they DO NOT release information regarding an ongoing investigation. Why should the laws change because of accusations being made by Beth? Originally it was reported the Aruban lawyer was hired so the family could understand Aruban laws but its apparent Beth has no regard for that. So is that what Beth has been doing on the TV for 5 months straight on every network, holding back? I guess you and I have different definitions of holding back.

[casara]

casara...you might not understand my post and you might not agree with it, but at least I know how to correctly spell, "Colmes". *smile*

What took Walsh so long to get involved? I think that's a legit question -- even if you don't.

Posted by: JustMe | Nov 7, 2005 2:10:23 AM______

Oh, wow, in the big scheme of things...when you think about "Natalee's disappearance", you know how to spell "Colmes"...look again, I believe it is spelled "Colms"...but who cares...really. This is a very sad state of affairs. A precious girl is missing, and we are fighting about SPELLING...UNBELIEVABLE.

I don't care how long it took Walsh to get involved...he is involved NOW, AND I HAVE A GREAT AMOUNT OF RESPECT FOR THE MAN AND HIS EXPERTISE...(OH, NO, DID I GET THAT SPELLING CORRECT?)

[JustMe]

So is that what Beth has been doing on the TV for 5 months straight on every network, holding back? I guess you and I have different definitions of holding back.

Posted by: 26ANDCOUNTING | Nov 7, 2005 2:19:28 AM
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I have the same definition of "holding back" that you do, apparently. The Twittys held back?

That's absurd.

[tazman]

It shouldn't matter if Beth does or doesn't bring media with her. What should matter is that the people in charge of this investigation need to become professional and accurate in what they say and how they treat people. They need to stop trying to "pass the buck" back to Beth!! If they had handled this case efficiently and professionally from day one, their credibility would not be questioned. And, people would want to vacation in Aruba because they would feel it is really safe!!! Solving this case is GOOD PR FOR ARUBA!!!

They should have and still can search Van der Sloot's property and/or properties. Karin Jansen should make all of her files available for the FBI and Beth's attorneys. Since she already let Paulos take them home.

And, five months into her daughter being missing is a tragedy. This could have been solved much earlier. So, any means that Beth can get Natalee back is fine with me!

[casara]

Posted by: casara | Nov 7, 2005 1:59:50 AM

Did you read what I wrote? Aruban law dictates they DO NOT release information regarding an ongoing investigation. Why should the laws change because of accusations being made by Beth? Originally it was reported the Aruban lawyer was hired so the family could understand Aruban laws but its apparent Beth has no regard for that. So is that what Beth has been doing on the TV for 5 months straight on every network, holding back? I guess you and I have different definitions of holding back.

Posted by: 26ANDCOUNTING | Nov 7, 2005 2:19:28 AM__________

I tell you what...lets just make this short and sweet...I will ask you one question...you answer it.

DO YOU THINK THE FAMILY HAS MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THIS INVESTIGATION ASIDE FROM THE PERTINENT AUTHORITIES IN ARUBA, THE FBI, OR THE HAGUE?

Also, if the Aruban law dictates such a thing, then why, oh, why...did Dompig himself make the statement on AMERICA'S MOST WANTED that he had information that someone launched a boat from a specific area of beach to take a body out to sea on the morning of Natalee's disappearance?
This is inconsistent (hold on, let me check my spelling) with what you are saying.

[26ANDCOUNTING]

Posted by: casara | Nov 7, 2005 2:34:20 AM

NO. Considering that Beth has stated over and over that Dompig nor Jansen have returned her phone calls or will not give her information I think that makes things very clear. If Beth had all this information regarding evidence where did she get it from? She wants everyone removed from the case why would she want that if there is evidence? Please tell me when an Aruban came on TV discussing EVIDENCE not speculation? Launching a boat is not discussing evidence in the investigation there is a difference. Have they released the names of the individuals they have brought in for questioning recently? Have they released information regarding the cell phone calls supposedly made to the MB kids cell phones? Have they released the information regarding the computer use and cell phone use of the 3 from that night? Oh and I didn't check my spelling just in case you want to know.

[JustMe]

Posted by: 26ANDCOUNTING | Nov 7, 2005 2:19:28 AM__________

DO YOU THINK THE FAMILY HAS MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THIS INVESTIGATION ASIDE FROM THE PERTINENT AUTHORITIES IN ARUBA, THE FBI, OR THE HAGUE?
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Although I'm not casara, I'll take a crack at it.

Of course The Family knows more than everyone involved in this investigation. It's all in Beth Twitty's "Journal".

They told us that when all of the info they know and have is revealed, we'll be shocked and awed. I'm still waiting...

[26ANDCOUNTING]

They told us that when all of the info they know and have is revealed, we'll be shocked and awed. I'm still waiting...

Posted by: JustMe | Nov 7, 2005 2:46:36 AM

Its because they're still holding back. LOL..

[blacklable]

Hi everybody,
has anyone seen sunday night's 2 hour nbc Law and Order, Criminel intent. More coverage than anyone would want for the case! A girl goes missing on a school trip in New York. The suspect is the son of a judge, who says in the kitchen to his wife and son: no body, no case. Father and son had sex with the missing girl. For good measure a black girl thrown in which had gone missing first, but nobody bothered to follow up on that one. Body no. 2 is found in a salt marsh (salt lake - sounds somehow familiar). Son of judge, suspect no.1 corresponds with his friends through the internet and the group posts sex related material on the net. One of the pictures shows a boy garnished with a dog leash (sounds very familiar. But the final outcome is very different: mother of suspect and wife of judge admits to murdering girl no. 2. There you have it.