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So? same old thing, Trappenberg is a cover up guy, godfather to the criminal. Beth still searching for answers, I believe her!

Beth is a damn good woman. One hell of a lady !
Go beth.

Thanks for the pointers.

dan:

thanks.........very interesting browsing the archives here.........& looking at things from a different perspective

Beth quotes are quite interesting. They seem to change over time. Except for the "gangrape" and "in and out of consciousness". Those stay the same. LOL

Thanks, Dan. Good counter points for the sorry excuse of a complaint about the prosecuter and investigators.

I hoenstly have no idea what she is thinking anymore.

Beth quotes are quite interesting. They seem to change over time. Except for the "gangrape" and "in and out of consciousness". Those stay the same. LOL

Posted by: nursemind | Nov 3, 2005 9:09:16 PM

Of course it changes over time as more information is known. Some people seem to think that because the suspects did not say they gang raped her that it cannot be a gang rape. If you believe them , that is to say it was consenual. Considering the victim is not present to dispute that accusation her mother has disputed it for her based on Natalee's backgound in which there is absolutely nothing that would remotely suggest that she could have been the kind of girl that would consent to sex with three men at the same time. Combine that with the report she was drunk and may have been slipped a date rape drug, she was not capable of consent therefore it was a gang rape.

Dr.Phil believes, as so many others believe, that Natalee is alive- but do not know where?
"NO BODY, no case"- who said to whom? Why ? It
gave hint- To avoid trouble, do something, with
the body; i.e. if alive, sell and get money- if
dead, hide somewhere! And, Jr.v sloot cannot do it; so Sr. is involved- and Kalpoe elder knows
it- so he (Deepak) said- "I do not care." i.e.
if he goes to jail, both Jr. and Sr. sloots also
go to jails- so, if exposed- so many local dirty
connections are exposed and hence "COVERUP"!!!
Even, FBI can not do something? At least expose
Corrupt officials and tell secretary of state to
protect American citizen in a foreign land!!!
No body, not police, not prosecutor even talk
to BETH and her lawyers in ARUBA-it is the prestige of America at stake here; not only prestige of all Americans and BETH and her family
alone? Do ARUBA know that?

Posted by: Skye | Nov 3, 2005 9:22:42 PM

Whow, whow.. not so fast. From Joran himself (ACA) and his dad (NOVA) we heard he has been kissing and making out on the backseat with Natalee. Kissing and 'vrijen' indicate at least somevconsensuality. She was 18 and celebrating, enough background to make the above plausible.

Per lawyer Deepak has denied ever saying anything about having sex to Jamie Skeeters. Prosecution has tried to take it as far as indecency with someone unable to express will, but it didn't stick in front of a judge. There are not enough facts or circumstances for a gang rape charge only fabrications.

it is the prestige of America at stake here; not only prestige of all Americans and BETH and her family
alone? Do ARUBA know that?

Posted by: American,K. | Nov 3, 2005 9:40:52 PM

You sound like a drama queen.
Not making any sense.

So? same old thing, Trappenberg is a cover up guy, godfather to the criminal. Beth still searching for answers, I believe her!

Posted by: lotusjani | Nov 3, 2005 8:54:31 PM
oh, now it is Trappenburg that is the godfather??
I thought it was v/d stratten??
who's next?

Posted by: Skye | Nov 3, 2005 9:22:42 PM

"......Considering the victim is not present to dispute that accusation her mother has disputed it for her based on Natalee's backgound in which there is absolutely nothing that would remotely suggest that she could have been the kind of girl that would consent to sex with three men at the same time....."

Let us take "background" in the direction of the 3. Do you remember misogynist on a website, reputations of pimps, "the drug guys", naked boys on leashes, refeneces from friends of family calling one of them "perverted"? I remember and your point about Natalee's previous reputation is outstanding. Reputations are the pathway to the future ...look at where you have been and turn around. If you are moving in a straight line, that is where you are headed.

"Liars lie to avoid what the truth will bring"

Ruben Trapenberg has a a famous buddy...Deepak Kalpoe. Saw that on his Tickle website

I am sure Beth's statements have changed as the investigation broke down. Note also she was quite diplomatic early on to give the corrupt Arubans a chance

Obviously that isnt the case anymore. The Arubans have been involved w Natalee's disappearance all along.

What kind of BS will Aruba pull off this site next?

We will get justice Aruba.....the choices are to get to the bottom of this now....or after we starve the populace via boycott

BOYCOTT ARUBA....We Have Nicer Places In America To Visit

Dan thanks for this forum and your continued support and updates.

Beth is doing what she feels is best in her search for her daughter. She has my sympathy and while some things might have been done better I will not question her. I can only pray that she will find Natalee, hopefully alive but if not, at least bring her remains home.

Beth is a damn good woman. One hell of a lady !
Go beth.

Thanks for the pointers.

Posted by: ! | Nov 3, 2005 9:01:03 PM

I'm for Beth, her family and the Aruban people 100%; excluding the slim bags like Karin, Paulus, Stratten and Dompig. The three bums only followed grown-up advice, so if I held anyone responsible it would be these four.

Posted by: andy | Nov 3, 2005 11:07:41 PM

I agree with both.

Beth is very strong mother, I hope oneday I will be as strong.

As for Aruba, they will pay for for the mess they have made in this case. The arrogant attitudes, the hateful post from aruba here and on many other boards.

Aruba invites/advertises for tourist, but will not take responsiblity for them while they are there. This case started with a missing tourist, and they do nothing but defend Aruba. Solve this case is the best defense. The excuses are getting old.

I dont know if Aruba tell Natalee to go in the car with 3 strangers. Offcourse i have to defend Aruba. And this case will be solve.

Beth is a witch. She is the kind of a woman that will be nice to your face and as soon as your back is turned, she will be bad mouthing you. She has burned so many bridges, but that is ok because she thinks that she has life long friends in Geraldo and Greta.

Beth is a witch. She is the kind of a woman that will be nice to your face and as soon as your back is turned, she will be bad mouthing you. She has burned so many bridges, but that is ok because she thinks that she has life long friends in Geraldo and Greta.

Posted by: Jody | Nov 3, 2005 11:30:34 PM


wow, what grade are you in?

http://www.hyscience.com/archives/2005/11/harrytho_113_na.php : "Despite her agreements with the Tourism Convention, she will spout out untruths, or at least somewhat distorted views about the situation in Aruba, like they were watermelon seeds, and call for a boycott. Oh yes, I almost forgot, she will encourage more donations in order to support her efforts to find her daughter."

Why dont you comment on the curious quotes of some of the officials in Aruba.."There was blood all over the back seat"..Nelson Oduber.."The suspect is leading us to the body"Gerald Dompig.."How much money do you have?"..Dennis Jacobs.."I have lied and thats the truth"Joran Vandersloot"No Body No Case"...Paulus Vandersloot

Hello Andy,

Your theory of magentism is about as wrong as it can be!

My airplane sure as heck does not function off magentism,when I give an injections of medications to a patients, that does not function off magentism and most other things in life dont function off magentism either.

People being messed with or killed has absolutely nothing at all to do with magentism!

While it is true the earth has magnetic fields and poles, it is also true that gravity is what holds everything down on earth so it does not float out into space.

An angstrom is a unit used in measuring the length of light waves.

I am not sure what physics book you have been reading, but it is wrong as can be and you need to take it back and get your money back.

I think you need to go read some excellent books on aerodynamics, organic and inorganic chemistry and fluid hydraulics.

Hi Nursemaid,

I agree with your post!!!

You know, since bipolar problems runs in families,Beth appears to be not only bipolar but also has ADHD as well. I think it would be a highly safe assumption that Natalee was also suffering from the same problems and both of them are on medications for the problems.

Also watch Natalee in the dance videos they show on TV and you will see that Natalee's timing and rhythm are off some and she looks stiff and does not look natural, she looks awkward in the dance routines.

Watch Beth's eyes,facial expressions,body language and listen to her statements in TV interviews.

In the last several threads the Mountaion Brook people have been fessing up to the fact that they dont even know Beth,they have never met her and they are not friends with Beth and they have never met Natalee either.

I bet the same is true with the Mountain Brook kids who were on the trip to Aruba with Natalee. They may have known of Natalee but they did not really know or were friends of Natalee.


Lurker,

I have been here since the beginning and have been to all the websites..Its not just dan but many other's here still want to bash beth holloway and look at anything except the obvious.They are telling tourists in aruba that natalee ran away and that beth is prospering the millions from the fund.The ALE made up there mind on the week of june 10th-14th that the truth will never ever be revealed.They refuse to talk to natalees family and they only want to put up a dog and pony show until this all go's away.They are desperately trying to find any dirt on the MB kids or the H/T family to offer as a option to what really happened.THE Whole ALE needs to be investigated for any truth to ever come out,There is a list of about 30 things the ALE did or didnt do that have convinced me 100% that they refuse to find the truth or reveal what they purposely overlooked.They are all so confident that she will never be found and it makes even more sense after learning about mr.jacobs.This will never be resolved until they start prosecuting those that have destroyed evidence,changed transcripts,scared witnesses and never followed through on leeds and tips.

Stay tuned, I'm sure he'll neglect to mention that Art Wood is a retired Secret Service agent, and just try to paint him as some opportunist when he writes about the letter.. oh wait, he just did that.

Dan, why not look back at your own words for "insight" - start with the "death by orgasm" theory you put out there. That's tremedous reporting!!

By the way, if you use the phrase, "as regards" one more time, I will vomit.


Posted by: Lurker | Nov 4, 2005 12:21:47 AM

You are one angry person. I suggest you get some help before you blow up. Your attack on Dan just shows your ignorance and bias. I pity people like you.

Hi Skye,

Beth's statements that Natalee was slipped a date rape drug,kidnapped,gang raped and murdered by Joran and the Kalpoe brothers is absolutely nothing more than pure suspicion and conjecture at best and there is absolutely not one shred of evidence to prove Joran and the Kalpoe brothers are guilty of anything whatsoever.
There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that Natalee was slipped any type of a date rape drug.

Beth just cant seem to accept the simple fact into her head that Natalee is not still a little girl and that Natalee is a grown woman who was of legal age and she could choose what,when,where and with whom she wanted to have consensual sex with.

Natalee's so called perfact background is nothing more and has been nothing more and continues to be nothing more than a PR campaign.

Every night all across the USA and around the world men and women meet at bars and drink and get drunk and they have sex, so who is to say that Natalee did not do this very same thing and evidence indicates that this is exactly what occurred.

The only thing that we know at this date is the very same thing we knew months ago and that is Natalee is missing and nothing more.

Everyone seems to have forgotten that Natalee was the one who made the poor choices and used poor judgement. She is the one who choose to drink the alcohol and do drugs. She is the one who choose to willingly get into the car with all the suspects. No one twisted her arm and forced her do these things,she did them herself.

Why did Natalee's friends not use the buddy system and make any type of effort to try to stop her from leaving with the three suspects??
Where was Natalee's friends at and what were they doing??

Im just thankfull that dave holloway has finally seen that this is indeed a coverup and not a botched investigation by incompetent officials.He gave the aruban officials every attempt to prove otherwise.Why was there no question's to joran after he suggested deepak raped,killed and buried natalee.As a matter of fact look at everything and at one time the ALE has denied it.I can call every aruban official a liar and prove except karen janssen and thats because she wont even talk to anyone.From the blood in back of the car that was seen by the fbi and reported on national radio.Bones being found,and most importantly the interrogation's,changed statements and never a forensic search at the main VDS household.They knew early on what these boys did but still they arrested innocent people and let the boys dispose of everything.They most certainly have known that they gang raped natalee but they will deny it until you prove it.Van Der Stratten and Jacobs both need to be locked up for a long time for obstruction of justice and covering up the rape and murder of natalee holloway.See to them Natallee Holloway wasnt even worth a dollar and all of there actions have confirmed this.I think its a little more than good friends of paulus van der sloot...Its about the reputaion of aruba.Joran and the gang are not only confident because they know she will never be found but they know they will never have any honest attempt to prosecute them.

Hey Lurker,

I too also hope we never meet cause I will make sure that you and any of your family members receive the worse possible nursing care and that you and your family members ass never makes it out of the hospital alive!! My nurse friends and many other nurses and other types of health care professionals who read your post will also makes sure that your ass or your any of your family members asses never makes out of any health care facility alive!! Just think about it, sooner than later you and your family members will need health care services of some type!!

I'll match my womenhood and my professional nursing license againt anything your have any day of the week!

Where is all this hard factual evidence that Beth has been claiming for the last 5 months she has in her possession that was going to shock the world and bust this case wide open??? Well, where is all the evidence?? It does not exist and it has never existed except in Beth's own warped delusional mentally dysfunctional bipolar brain!! She has done nothing but make a total complete ass out of herself and not only brought shame and disgrace to to herself and her family but the USA as well!!!

I do not recall ever reading anything or watching any TV news reports that stated that Joran and the Kalpoe brothers forced Natalee to drink alcohol or do drugs or do anything else for that matter, and since they did not do this,then Natalee made the choice to drink the alcohol and do drugs on her own and there is no disputing this fact!! No thats not right, her friends forced her to drink the alcohol and do drugs so its her friends fault that she got drunk and got a head full of drugs and took off like a big ass bird with the suspects for some consensual sexual fun!!

I do not recall ever reading anything or watching any TV news reports that stated that Joran and the Kalpoe brothers forced Natalee into the car!! Natalee very willingly and intentionally walked to the car climbed in the car and took off in the car like a big ass bird to parts unknown!! So it must not be her fault, it has to be her friends faults and the suspects faults cause virginal Natalee is not the blame for any of her own piss poor choices and her own risky behavior is she???
Matter of fact Natalee's friends did watch her get into the Kalpoe car and they made absolutely no effert at all to prevent or stop her did they???

Yes Beth is in fact a large part of the blame cause Beth knew what Aruba was like and yet she still sent her daughter down there to Aruba for a whole week of drinking,drugging and wild sex!!
If Beth did not send her daughter down there to Aruba,then who did??? Beth's own signature is on the release forms for Natalee to go to Aruba and there is no disputing this fact!!!

Lets all blame Aruba for everything cause they are a bunch of incompetent numbskulls but lets also include our own DEA and FBI cause they were there from day one and in case you have forgot the DEA/FBI met Beth and her posse of halfwits and morons at the airport.

Was Nataee bipolar or have a drug problem or have some other type of mental or health problem and if there was not something medically wrong with Natalee then why did Beth have a Medical transport jet standing-by at the airport in Aruba for two days while they were trying to find Natalee?? When medical transport by air is necessary the person being transported usually has an extremely critical or severe medical condition!! They dont send medical transport jet aircraft to Aruba to transport drunken drugged out people back to Alabama!! There has to be a specific valid medical reason as to why Beth had a medical transport jet waiting on stand-by at the Aruba airport for two days while they were trying to find Natalee. And Beth has not stated what the specific medical reason was as to why she had a medical transport aircraft waiting to transport Natalee back to Alabama!!

Frankly I could care less if you believe I am a Registered Nurse or not!! I have the license, the training,the very high income and you dont! Your opinion means absolutely nothing to me!
You obviously know absolutely nothing about the real world of nursing and medicine do you??

Why dont you go to a large metro hospital emergency department on a Friday and Saturday night and see if your impression of what actually occurs in the ED is the same as what you have seen on TV!! You will have a very rude awakening I will assure you!!

I have tons of compassion for all the people I take care of especially rape victims and children who have been abused in any form!

What you dont understand or refuse to comprehend is as professional trauma nurses and doctors we cannot let our personal feelings and compassion and most of all we cant let our emotions get in our way while we are providing life saving care to patients. We have to remain focused,calm and composed at all times in order for us to perform our professional duties.

You and the rest of the Beth supporters have become so emotionally involved in this case that you refuse to even look at any other possibilities of things that may have occured to Natalee and you have no objective analytical reasoning skills!!

There is absolutely nothing frighting that I have posted and what I have posted is based on facts by Beth's own statements and the MB kids own statements.

You have absolutely not one shred of factual evidence at all that any of the three suspects did anything at all to Natalee let alone slip her a date rape drug,kidnap her,gang rape her or murder her do you??? NOPE!! All you have is Beth's lies and you like the rest of the mentally dysfunctional Beth supporters have hitched your wagon to a falling media whore star.
You are a real work of art and cant tell fact from fiction cause you are suffereing from a severe case of Beth induced crainal-rectal inversion and all indications are that you have liquid fecal material for brains and cotton in your ears to keep the liquid fecal material from running out!!!

And my statements that you quoted still stand and they are true and no matter how hard you try you will never be able to refute them cause they are based on fact and not yours or Beth's fairy tail fabricated evidence lies!!!


And my statements that you quoted still stand and they are true and no matter how hard you try you will never be able to refute them cause they are based on fact and not yours or Beth's fairy tail fabricated evidence lies!!!


Posted by: BamaRN | Nov 4, 2005 6:44:20 AM

Better stay at on the pysch ward.....they can always use another Nurse Ratchett! Your not another friend of Paulus the perp are you?

All you have is Beth's lies and you like the rest of the mentally dysfunctional Beth supporters have hitched your wagon to a falling media whore star.

You are a real work of art and cant tell fact from fiction cause you are suffereing from a severe case of Beth induced crainal-rectal inversion and all indications are that you have liquid fecal material for brains and cotton in your ears to keep the liquid fecal material from running out!!!

Posted by: BamaRN | Nov 4, 2005 6:44:20 AM

Thank you for medical explanation of Bethist disorder!

Talk about people in glass houses throwing stones!!!! BamaRN better watch out he/she doesn't get cut by the falling glass; quote: "You and the rest of the Beth supporters have become so emotionally involved in this case that you refuse to even look at any other possibilities of things that may have occured to Natalee and you have no objective analytical reasoning skills!!" Hmmmm...I'm not quite sure how rantings about a "media whore star" and persons "suffereing [sic]from a severe case of Beth induced crainal-[sic]rectal inversion and all indications are that you have liquid fecal material for brains and cotton in your ears to keep the liquid fecal material from running out!!!" can be classified as "objective" and non-"emotional..." In any event, thanks but no thanks for the mental picture of heads leaking feces.

Anyone read the translations of the recent DARIO (sp?) articles about Dompig's "questions" for Beth and the other media about Beth supposedly "setting up" the disappearance to collect "insurance" money?! It's hard to imagine how much more Fellini-esque this case could get. Next, Natalee's disappearance is going to be an American conspiracy to ruin Aruba's tourist industry...oh wait...that's already being suggested....It's very sad that Aruba seems to care more about its citizens and tourism than the actual tourists. I can hardly imagine a Robert Chambers or Ted Bundy having been let go and let loose to attend a college full of potential female victims....


This is in response to Shonane's (and TexasPoster's) various posts:

If you are not a licensed lawyer in the US specializing in criminal or constitutional law, a US attorney, working at the US Dept. of Justice or a US professor of constitutional or criminal law---STOP making ridiculous, ignorant and incorrect statements about U.S. law. (And by the way, criminal law and procedure is, for the most part, determined by each state and its legislature; it's thus fairly impossible to make blanket generalizations as to what "US law" is in this regard.)

Your comments as to inadmissibility of the tape, violation of due process and failure to give Miranda warnings making certain statements inadmissible evidence the fact that you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Ever hear about an admission/statement against interest? Ever hear that admissions are admissible at trial? Ever hear of "Jailhouse Confessions" and inmates testifying to ADMISSIONS made by other inmates as to other murders committed etc.? Ever watch "The Practice", "Law and Order" or "NYPD Blue?" Know that Miranda rights can be waived? Know that Miranda warnings not required if subject is not "in custody" or under belief he/she is "not free to leave?"

I doubt you know any of these things or have any basis for your outrageous legal comments...so give it a rest and leave discussion of the LAW to the lawyers that have been EDUCATED IN THE LAW. And by the way, if Deepak was an American citizen, he would be in jail right now awaiting trial for rape. And if he turned "State's Witness," his brother and/or Joran would probably be in jail and awaiting trial. And even if Deepak was not advised that he was being taped and/or recorded, the admission would still be ADMISSIBLE. In fact, the interrogator could testify as to what he was told by Deepak and the statement would come in as an exception to the hearsay rule, regardless of any contention that Deepak was not advised that he was being taped. Lastly, due process refers to deprivation of rights by the "state;" not "deprivation" by private interrogators that are not state officials.

I'm proud of the American legal system and the fact that date/gang rape is a crime and the criminals are not allowed to roam the streets or college campuses populated with young girls. (It's kind of like letting a bulimic or binger loose in an ice cream store.) In America, "no means no," and being too drunk to say no is not consent. You know, Robert Chambers initially claimed that he didn't know Jennifer Levin; then he changed his story and claimed that SHE had raped HIM--notwithstanding the fact that he had at least 80-100 pounds on her, was over 6'3" to 6'4" and had a history of violence against women. He changed his story a few more times (hmmmm...sounds familiar....) before he was finally tried and sent to jail.

This was a great excerpt and response at Hyscience:

"What I read from this article is that Beth Twitty only desires to discuss the Skeeter tapes. She refuses to meet with Police Chief Dompig and provide a profile of her daughter. In a sense, Beth Twitty is ignoring the role of the Aruban authorities in the disappearance of her daughter. As Police Chief Dompig hinted, Beth Twitty wants complete control of the investigation.

When she returns to the USA, she will lambaste the Aruban authorities for not meeting with her. She will completely ignore Dompig and concentrate all her viciousness on prosecutor Janssen. Naturally, the cable news networks will play into this sham in order to boost their ratings. Despite her agreements with the Tourism Convention, she will spout out untruths, or at least somewhat distorted views about the situation in Aruba, like they were watermelon seeds, and call for a boycott. Oh yes, I almost forgot, she will encourage more donations in order to support her efforts to find her daughter."

She REFUSED to give a profile of her daughter?
Queeny is so full of herself lately and so full of
her self-proclaimed importance it's truly sickening. I hope that Aruban authorities and the FBI will allow her to hang herself with her whiny attacks against everyone and than put the investigation were it belongs, on her and the Jug.
"she wants complete control of the investigation"
she is a control freak!

Brooke, you said it all. In the beginning of this case, I wondered why the hairs stood up on the back of my neck when Beth was on TV. Just chalked it up to how desperate she was to find her daughter. Now, I know what was wrong. This woman is definitely a CONTROL FREAK. She's going to CONTROL her way into never knowing what happened to Natalee.

Geesh. You'd think he'd know his stuff - but maybe not. John Walsh, on FOX, says there is a 99.3 chance Natalee is dead, as those are the stats that apply to these circumstances.

I'd like to see those stats.

In my opinion the FBI can not comment on cases publicly, period unless you are retired and working privately. The US gov't knows, and C. Rice added a twist without revealing their intent by issuing travel restriction to Aruba - w/o a passport you can not travel there. Aruba was first, Mexico second - but since we have NFTA w/Mexico it does not apply to Mexico. That's how stupid your Aruban gov't is - they couldn't even figure that one out.

Posted by: andy | Nov 3, 2005 10:03:29 PM

Andy

your more stupid to believe that crap this passport thing has been going on for a while long before natalees case.
this desicion (passport) is for uSA homeland security purposes only.

Beth Twitty is a guest in Aruba...for the Aruban Tourist Authority to blame her in any for economic losses is a farce. We have read on this board how Aruban's feel about this particular guest in your country...can they honestly believe Americans are clamoring to get to Aruba for this kind of hospitality?

John Walsh was on Fox and Friends around 8:50a this morning saying that he totally agrees with and sympathizes with Beth's efforts to find her daughter's body, send this "letter" and get the FBI involved. He says that the Aruban government has clearly mishandled this case...that even now they will not allow our Navy's new and highest technologies to search the waters for Natalee. He said that he has watched the Aruban government try to question her motives...to move the searchlight OFF of Aruban corruption.

Beth is not a witch, but a humble loving mother. I was a devil, I was a sniper in Vietnam and 400 yds was the average shot.

Posted by: andy | Nov 3, 2005 11:47:37 PM

WTF???

Beth is not a witch, but a humble loving mother. I was a devil, I was a sniper in Vietnam and 400 yds was the average shot.

Posted by: andy | Nov 3, 2005 11:47:37 PM

WTF???


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Are you stupid hmmm - he is saying he was in the army in Veitnam. You are so stupid.

And BamaRn you can not possibly be a working nurse. You are on here all day long, everyday, every night. It seems you don´t even have a job! Aren´t nurses supposed to be busy in the hospital ,or at the doctor´s office, and not on the Rheil world website? Seems like you don´t even have a job...

Everyone seems to have forgotten that Natalee was the one who made the poor choices and used poor judgement. She is the one who choose to drink the alcohol and do drugs. She is the one who choose to willingly get into the car with all the suspects. No one twisted her arm and forced her do these things,she did them herself.

Why did Natalee's friends not use the buddy system and make any type of effort to try to stop her from leaving with the three suspects??
Where was Natalee's friends at and what were they doing??

Posted by: BamaRN | Nov 4, 2005 1:19:37 AM

So, what you are saying is that she deserved what she got b/c she was out having fun and drinking. You are just about the most heartless person on this blog. I sure hope the RN stands for redneck and not registered nurse b/c I would hope like hell you do not use that kind of thinking while attending to the sick.

Hey Lurker,

I too also hope we never meet cause I will make sure that you and any of your family members receive the worse possible nursing care and that you and your family members ass never makes it out of the hospital alive!! My nurse friends and many other nurses and other types of health care professionals who read your post will also makes sure that your ass or your any of your family members asses never makes out of any health care facility alive!! Just think about it, sooner than later you and your family members will need health care services

BamaRN....

you got your nursing degree from where? Nurses R Us? You have got to be kidding... you belong in a straight jacket. Orderlys lock this nut job up now she has escaped again!

BamaRN Where did you escape from? Please tell you just dressed up as a nurse for halloween! I hope and pray you do not actually work as a nurse. If so, God bless that hospistal where she works and the people she comes in contact with daily.

COMMENT:
Beth quotes are quite interesting. They seem to change over time. Except for the "gangrape" and "in and out of consciousness". Those stay the same. LOL

Posted by: nursemind | Nov 3, 2005 9:09:16 PM

RESPONSE:
The Change over time Quote is because the ALE would get her hopes up high like yeah see we are doing out job and then they ALWAYS dropped the ball and fizzled right out...HOW FRUSTRATION..that must be for the HOlloway/Twitty family. Like a up hill down hill cyle they are riding on with the ALE!! Beth you are doing a great job in pursueing justice for Natalee and for you and Dave and family keep up the excellent investigative work!!!

Natalee DOES NOT have ADD or ADHD and she is not bipolar. It's just more BS rumors being started by posters on these forums that know nothing at all about Natalee and her families medical background.
Natalee is/was a wonderful dancer and it's pretty sad that you have nothing better to do with your time than to throw off on a girl that is missing and possibly dead and also a girl that has never done a damn thing to you. These girls weren't professional dancers..they were high school girls that enjoyed performing during half time, ect for their school.
When I look at Beth's expression's I see a woman that is suffering not only from the loss of her daughter but from lack of sleep, sudden weight loss and no appetite, severe stress and a broken heart.

Good luck Beth and I pray you will find your daughter soon!


I agree with your post!!!

You know, since bipolar problems runs in families,Beth appears to be not only bipolar but also has ADHD as well. I think it would be a highly safe assumption that Natalee was also suffering from the same problems and both of them are on medications for the problems.

Also watch Natalee in the dance videos they show on TV and you will see that Natalee's timing and rhythm are off some and she looks stiff and does not look natural, she looks awkward in the dance routines.

Watch Beth's eyes,facial expressions,body language and listen to her statements in TV interviews.

In the last several threads the Mountaion Brook people have been fessing up to the fact that they dont even know Beth,they have never met her and they are not friends with Beth and they have never met Natalee either.

I bet the same is true with the Mountain Brook kids who were on the trip to Aruba with Natalee. They may have known of Natalee but they did not really know or were friends of Natalee.


Posted by: BamaRN | Nov 4, 2005 12:36:25 AM

COMMENT:
She REFUSED to give a profile of her daughter?
Queeny is so full of herself lately and so full of
her self-proclaimed importance it's truly sickening. I hope that Aruban authorities and the FBI will allow her to hang herself with her whiny attacks against everyone and than put the investigation were it belongs, on her and the Jug.
"she wants complete control of the investigation"
she is a control freak!

Posted by: Brooke | Nov 4, 2005 7:32:46 AM

RESPONSE:
BROOKE Beth is only doing her job as a mother of a innocent daughter who has been raped by three rapists and has most likely been murdered by them. What if that happened to you? I could only hope your mother would do what any decent mother would, just like Beth and seek justice!! Your perspective is demented and twisted and poisened with malace and hatred toward the innocent victims... Shame on you!

lurker,speaking of bamaRN. she must wipe asses for a living.

BAMARN: Will you marry me?

BAMARN: Oh,never mind. We don't have any magentism. What the hell is magentism? Do you mean magnetism? Which way does the earth rotate? Coyotes eat stray dogs. Are you Pat from Saturday Night Live? You know, PAT. Do you like Beth Twitty? Where the hell is TJ Ward? Just when you need a private investigator, you can't find one. Nobody seems to know anything about TJ Ward, the investigator who solved the Natalee Holloway case. Anyone seen Arlene, the beauty, lately?

BamaRN... did they finally lock you back up? Ding Dong the witch is dead.

Hey everyone, Hey Berry!
Latest news is they are checking out other theories (Dr. Phil)! Think they were reading our posts? lol...
I am so glad they are widening the scope of the investigation. Just hope they don't make to big a deal of what they are doing. "If" she is somewhere they will put her in danger. They should persue this covertly.
And wow you guys, gettin down and dirty on here?

observer...always enjoy your posts and your ability to disagree with whomever, make your points and avoid attacking poster; much appreciated...if we all agreed, nothing to discuss! Further, Dan's quotes relating to Beth's support of ALE in the beginning, simply exhibits the family's willingness to respect and cooperate with authorities in Aruba...absolutely the proper approach; as time has passed and that relationship has disintegrated, one usually resorts to other options...whether we agree with them or not. In respect of Aruban law, i have seen enough posts from those with legal knowledge to know that the Prosecutor's lack of communication with this family (was unecessary and would not have jeopardized the case legally) has created this hell...for Aruba and for the family. For those who would argue that Beth goes public with everything(an excuse for Prosecutor to not keep family informed), please take a moment to recall that in the beginning she did not. In my very humble opinion, this lack of communication is at the heart of where we are today.....danie(qualification:i am not a lawyer,but work for my family's law firm).

RE-STATED FOR THOSE WHO HAVE NO MORAL COMPASS:


I personally think it is nothing but shameful how so many people I see on this site bash and defame a family that has suffered the loss of child. God help you if you should ever have to be in their position and I hope that God will show you more kindness and mercy than you are showing Natalee's family.

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