In my opinion, this is an absolutely ridiculous and irresponsible charge from the Mother of Natalee Holloway, Beth Twitty. At this point it appears she is attempting to obstruct the very investigation you would think she wants to go forward. The notion that additional questioning of individuals in any investigation is only the result of poor police work is absurd.
The FBI conducted the questioning on the part of Aruban authorities. In an advisory capacity, they had every opportunity to address this if it were the case. Is she suggesting that the FBI are simply dopes who could or would only ask what the ALE told them to?
There is no excuse for her criticism here. It appears her agenda against Aruba law enforcement has now superceded any concern she may have once had for getting answers to what happened to Natalee. Unbelieveable ... and obstructionist. I can't even comprehend what is going on with this woman anymore.
ORANJESTAD, Aruba (AP) - The mother of a U.S. teen who vanished on a school trip to Aruba said Saturday that prosecutors want to interview former classmates of the teen in the United States.
Beth Holloway Twitty repeated her charge that Aruban officials ignored leads and botched case and said they only want to speak with former classmates because there were holes in their questions.
"The reason they want to ask follow up questions to those students from Mountain Brook is because of the holes in their original line of questioning and because of questions they forgot to ask the first time," she told The Associated Press in a telephone interview from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
Posted by: wreck | Nov 6, 2005 12:02:01 AM
Hey Wreck, ALE would not be allowed to do so on us soil if the fbi is not present, thats why there supposedly was an official request..
And no..i would not allow my child to be questioned without a lawyer but sometimes, and i forgot what this stage is called, they do not allow a lawyer present.. someone who knows the law better than me would be able to reply
: )
Posted by: ProudAmerican | Sunday, November 06, 2005 at 12:04 AM
Wow Dan, Dave makes some good comments which appear to be way more in line with my feelings than your constant criticism of Beth or any one from Alabama for that matter. I think its your right to ban any one from your blog and I'll be next since you can take the heat but you can dish it out. That's not what this is about it's about being wrong on this case and although the blog has helped the case I think you've had the wool pulled over your eyes by the likes of Scubajap and bigfish. They have been feeding this blog full of crap for months and then when dave states facts you can't handle it. bo hoo.
Posted by: JW | Sunday, November 06, 2005 at 12:04 AM
this is getting kindof ugly. can we be nice?
Posted by: texas05 | Sunday, November 06, 2005 at 12:06 AM
Its not up to BETH to make the call on whether or not the other kids on the trip are questioned once again. They have parents to and I would imagine it would also be up to those parents to make the decision whether or not their kids are questioned. I am sure they have a copy of the statement they made and if they see that it needs to be rehashed I am sure they as indiviuals woudl make the right decision for the sake of Natalee.!
Posted by: ! | Sunday, November 06, 2005 at 12:07 AM
The use of polygraphs could have eliminated the 3 boys as suspects in 15 minutes.
Posted by: letsbefair | Nov 6, 2005 12:03:13 AM
Polygraphs are never used in any case. Not in Aruba, not anywhere else in the Kingdom.
Posted by: dugo | Sunday, November 06, 2005 at 12:07 AM
Hey Wreck, ALE would not be allowed to do so on us soil if the fbi is not present, thats why there supposedly was an official request..
Posted by: ProudAmerican | Nov 6, 2005 12:04:11 AM
My problem is, Beth's response is such that she feels they should not be requestioned at all...even with the FBI present. She says they had their chance to question, and that's it. I just can't understand that line of reasoning. Does she want a thorough investigation or not? She bitches how it wasnt done right, eyt when ALE tries to do it right, she refuses to allow it. Makes no sense.
Posted by: woebegone | Sunday, November 06, 2005 at 12:07 AM
Posted by: dugo | Nov 6, 2005 12:07:21 AM
they are not admissible here either... but used mainly in the court of public opinion
Posted by: ProudAmerican | Sunday, November 06, 2005 at 12:08 AM
wbg
where does it say that she refuses questioning for the us folks?
Posted by: texas05 | Sunday, November 06, 2005 at 12:08 AM
Posted by: woebegone | Nov 6, 2005 12:07:52 AM
I dont disagree with you, if she wants a new team and a new start, then that includes mb..
Posted by: ProudAmerican | Sunday, November 06, 2005 at 12:09 AM
The use of polygraphs could have eliminated the 3 boys as suspects in 15 minutes.
Posted by: letsbefair | Nov 6, 2005 12:03:13 AM
Polygraphs are never used in any case. Not in Aruba, not anywhere else in the Kingdom.
Posted by: dugo | Nov 6, 2005 12:07:21 AM
Exactly my point. Wouldn't it be better for an investigation to eliminate a suspect in 5 minutes, rather than jail them and question them for 120 days?
Posted by: letsbefair | Sunday, November 06, 2005 at 12:09 AM
SOmething is not right here. He said he went by the house at 3AM - then he went to the police station and left there at 2:40 - how can that be?
Posted by: gagal_05 | Nov 5, 2005 11:33:01 PM
One other perspective. All the group arrived at the vdsloot place 3 different times - from LE, Wyndham, HI. CCroes & Alberto arrived there 4 times because they'd been by earlier.
Posted by: GrannyToad | Sunday, November 06, 2005 at 12:10 AM
JW - Get over yourself. Either read what I write - or leave. What is this "Ban me too carp?" If you want to leave, leave for heaven's sake. I'm not stopping you, or anyone else. And you feel you can just smear other posters because you don't like their views?
If you want to go - by all means go. Otherwise, address the facts and shut up - you aren't going to win any arguments with me around here. Go to SM or wherever and stay there. I couldn't care less. I have never banned anyone for stating contrary opinions. I do not have to tolerate people making up multiple names to come after me here - or tolerate the likes of you who can't accept that basic rationale for my actions.
Posted by: Dan | Sunday, November 06, 2005 at 12:10 AM
Aruba LE can't even get two uniformed police officers to make a decent report of the first night the family was at sloots place. Don't trust them and never will till they clean house there.
Posted by: JW | Sunday, November 06, 2005 at 12:10 AM
Exactly my point. Wouldn't it be better for an investigation to eliminate a suspect in 5 minutes, rather than jail them and question them for 120 days?
Posted by: letsbefair | Nov 6, 2005 12:09:38 AM
Well, unless the results were like they were in the lunsford case, or the groene case, where polygraphs indicated family was involved, and they clearly were not.
Posted by: woebegone | Sunday, November 06, 2005 at 12:11 AM
they are not admissible here either... but used mainly in the court of public opinion
Posted by: ProudAmerican | Nov 6, 2005 12:08:21 AM
They're used for investigation. Junior the crackhead landfill witness failed miserably. Wouldn't it have been better to polygraph him before you go digging through the landfill?
Posted by: letsbefair | Sunday, November 06, 2005 at 12:11 AM
Posted by: letsbefair | Nov 6, 2005 12:11:40 AM
they are just not trustworthy...i dont care who is taking them or administering them
Posted by: ProudAmerican | Sunday, November 06, 2005 at 12:12 AM
I will always be on Beths side. People with nothing to hide hide nothing ! The boys and the dad have lied to many times and are coverign something up whatever it may be.
If it were my daughter I woudl do the same thing she is doing , probably worse. Thats just me. Unless you have a child that goes missing then you have no idea what its like to not know where your child is. My heart breaks for her.
I have a brother that was murdered 35 years ago and their was never any justice for him. Will never know what happened to him and why. Its not a pleasant feeling. He was a good man and had a wife and a 2 year old daughter at the time. My neice looks just like her dad as does Natalee looks like her dad. God bless Beth & Dave always. I hope the truth be told one day for them. At least they would know !
Posted by: ! | Sunday, November 06, 2005 at 12:12 AM
I will always be on Beths side. People with nothing to hide hide nothing ! The boys and the dad have lied to many times and are coverign something up whatever it may be.
If it were my daughter I woudl do the same thing she is doing , probably worse. Thats just me. Unless you have a child that goes missing then you have no idea what its like to not know where your child is. My heart breaks for her.
I have a brother that was murdered 35 years ago and their was never any justice for him. Will never know what happened to him and why. Its not a pleasant feeling. He was a good man and had a wife and a 2 year old daughter at the time. My neice looks just like her dad as does Natalee looks like her dad. God bless Beth & Dave always. I hope the truth be told one day for them. At least they would know !
Posted by: ! | Sunday, November 06, 2005 at 12:13 AM
I am a mother and if my daughter went missing I would hope they would question anyone and everyone that was around my daughter that week from maids to friends. Someone may remember something that they dont even think is important that may be a big clue in solving the case. I dont get it at all.
Posted by: doesanyonecareaboutnatalee | Sunday, November 06, 2005 at 12:14 AM
I understand what youre saying but thats a bit too graphic for me..
Beth is a frustrated, emotionally (damaged) mother.. understandably so.. what is not understandable is the 'protection' of mb.. i would want every last person sneezing next to my daughter interviewed/interrogated.. this does not make sense..and i am a fan of BHT
Posted by: ProudAmerican | Nov 6, 2005 12:00:37 AM
Sorry I was too "graphic", but if you think childbirth is too graphic why are you reading what could have possibly happened to Natalee? I find it horrific. Curious, are you a mom or a dad? Having a child to me, and to all of my mother friends is a very "bonding" experience. Birthing, however it comes about after carrying a child is very emotional and adoption is so amazing. Did you hear about the story when a mom and baby were almost carjacked? The man came up and tried to take the car with the baby and the momma got her "club" the thing that goes over the steering wheel and beat him with it. She was screaming, "oh, no you're not taking my baby you (*W&*$&#*&$#(". He was on the ground begging her to stop when the cops came. The power of motherhood can make you do amazing and crazy stuff.
Posted by: abigail | Sunday, November 06, 2005 at 12:15 AM
Dan, It is your blog and if folks don't obey your rules or are not nice you can do whatever. I know you respect others opinions and it is opinions that makes us all think!
Posted by: texas05 | Sunday, November 06, 2005 at 12:17 AM
Dan,
I find the timing of your constant criticism of Beth Twitty interesting to say the least. What I find even more so in this circumstance is that I really don't see WTF your point is about her complaints? This is nothing new and quite frankly she is pointing out that the idea of re-interviewing the MB Kids is an attestment that they screwed up in the beginning and really don't have a clue. She is not suggesting that they don't interview them and in fact isn't even protesting it. Simply stating an observation and her opinion as to why ths is happening now and yet there have been several other local leads that they have refused to follow up on. She has a right to be pissed off.
Your points of view are not objective as you seem to try and claim them to be. In fact, you are in constant attack mode and that position is something new. One really has to question your motives. If you want a I think Beth Twitty did it web log that call it that but don't cover it up with your attempt of saying your only being objective and concerned about Natalee.
Posted by: Scott | Sunday, November 06, 2005 at 12:18 AM
Has she actually said that she doesn't want the kids interviewed again? I certainly haven't heard it if she has.
the only reason that i can figure is that beth knows the interview of the kids is a waste of time in that it still doesn't make the 3 guys talk?
Posted by: lola | Sunday, November 06, 2005 at 12:18 AM
Dave, At the beginning her sister-in-law gave the word for all the returning kids and adults to keep quiet, per Beth. They were not to discuss anything per Beth. Now how she got all this power with everyone jumping from that day on is beyond me. It is all about control.
Can't you see this is the key word and always has been: Control. She is NOT well and never has been but the world will not tell her so and she can not see it herself.
Posted by: GeorgeT. | Sunday, November 06, 2005 at 12:19 AM
And no..i would not allow my child to be questioned without a lawyer but sometimes, and i forgot what this stage is called, they do not allow a lawyer present.. someone who knows the law better than me would be able to reply
: )
Posted by: ProudAmerican | Nov 6, 2005 12:04:11 AM
During any questioning a lawyer may be present, as a matter of fact with any interaction with LE, a lawyer is allowed, at least here in the states. Even when a witness is being questions, they are allowed a lawyer with them if they choose. In this case I would want one just to be on the safe side
Posted by: cindi in pa | Sunday, November 06, 2005 at 12:20 AM
Texas05 - Dave and Abram - see above are the same poster - yes, when you take on identities to support yourself and then attack me - yes, he is gone for those actions.
Posted by: Dan | Nov 6, 2005 12:01:00 AM
Wow,why would anyone take on multiple identities???Glad he/she are gone if they are truly guilty of the crime.
>>>>>>>
I pose to you the question..IF it were your duaghter how woudl you handle it at this point ?Its a fact the case was screwed in the early going ! I do believe that most everyone has agreed on that !
The women is heartbroken, don't you see that or do you too wear Rose colored glasses.
Posted by: ! | Nov 6, 2005 12:02:18 AM
I hope that I am never in her situation.But I think I can accurately say that I would be embracing the only ones who could truly help me and get justice for my daughter.At this point I would be begging the local TV station to broadcast my plea for all of the kids,chaperones,people who went of their own accord to please cooperate with ALE/FBI to further the investigation.I would truly leave no stone unturned no matter how many times I had to turn the stone over to get leads of any sort no matter how insignificant they may be.
Sure I can see that she is heartbroken but the fact is the broken heart should demand cooperation from those who she sees as her peers in her own hometown.I also see that she is abot as self serving as anyone I have ever seen and she does not hesitate to lie through her teeth.The biggest lie that she has told that has caused her descent as a media darling is the fact that she actually said that the toothbrush that had male dna on it (yes the one she gave to ALE as a source of dna for Nat) belonged to one of the other girls who shared the room with Nat.That's a pretty damn low blow to continue making herself out to be the perfect parent.
Posted by: bizman | Sunday, November 06, 2005 at 12:22 AM
They're used for investigation.
Posted by: letsbefair | Nov 6, 2005 12:11:40 AM
Not by Aruban police.
Posted by: dugo | Sunday, November 06, 2005 at 12:28 AM
I understand what youre saying but thats a bit too graphic for me..
Beth is a frustrated, emotionally (damaged) mother.. understandably so.. what is not understandable is the 'protection' of mb.. i would want every last person sneezing next to my daughter interviewed/interrogated.. this does not make sense..and i am a fan of BHT
Posted by: ProudAmerican | Nov 6, 2005 12:00:37 AM
Sorry I was too "graphic", but if you think childbirth is too graphic why are you reading what could have possibly happened to Natalee? I find it horrific. Curious, are you a mom or a dad? Having a child to me, and to all of my mother friends is a very "bonding" experience. Birthing, however it comes about after carrying a child is very emotional and adoption is so amazing. Did you hear about the story when a mom and baby were almost carjacked? The man came up and tried to take the car with the baby and the momma got her "club" the thing that goes over the steering wheel and beat him with it. She was screaming, "oh, no you're not taking my baby you (*W&*$&#*&$#(". He was on the ground begging her to stop when the cops came. The power of motherhood can make you do amazing and crazy stuff.
Posted by: abigail | Sunday, November 06, 2005 at 12:31 AM
They're used for investigation.
Posted by: letsbefair | Nov 6, 2005 12:11:40 AM
Not by Aruban police.
Posted by: dugo | Nov 6, 2005 12:28:30 AM
Well, the Aruban police have not solved the case yet. Perhaps they should consider using all the tools available.
Posted by: letsbefair | Sunday, November 06, 2005 at 12:32 AM
Bizman. You do not know for sertain any of the things you are accusing her of. Give her the beniefit of the doubt. Lighten up on her and just be nice !
Posted by: ! | Sunday, November 06, 2005 at 12:34 AM
they are just not trustworthy...i dont care who is taking them or administering them
Posted by: ProudAmerican | Nov 6, 2005 12:12:42 AM
Have you ever taken one? I have. You'd be amazed at what a good investigator can do with a polygraph.
Posted by: letsbefair | Sunday, November 06, 2005 at 12:34 AM
Well, the Aruban police have not solved the case yet. Perhaps they should consider using all the tools available.
Posted by: letsbefair | Nov 6, 2005 12:32:23 AM
A polygraph is snakeoil, not a tool.
Posted by: dugo | Sunday, November 06, 2005 at 12:36 AM
GROW UP! I certainly hope the guy that posted above does not have kids! What a great influence...NOT.
Geez, if you don't like the blog and how it's run then get the fuck off crack head!
Posted by: abigail | Sunday, November 06, 2005 at 12:37 AM
Have you ever taken one? I have. You'd be amazed at what a good investigator can do with a polygraph.
Posted by: letsbefair | Nov 6, 2005 12:34:54 AM
Maybe the FBI can hang these on the MB kids then..
Posted by: dugo | Sunday, November 06, 2005 at 12:37 AM
Has she actually said that she doesn't want the kids interviewed again? I certainly haven't heard it if she has.
She was puttig conditions on it at the start - as regards the FBI being present. For someone following it so closely - what you miss is a bit convenient, Dave.
what would you do if you were up against the cartel or drug lord or something. all along i've said she's changed stories and has done everything to convict these three. just an idea because truly i don't think beth is stupid.
Posted by: lola | Sunday, November 06, 2005 at 12:37 AM
maybe, and this is a stretch, but maybe, beth has an idea of what she is really up against and its not 3 teens and a dad. but she thinks they have answers and she is going to do whatever she has to to make them talk. i always have thought that possibly the guys were more scared of someone else.
lola, I always thought that the boys were afraid of someone too, someone higher and stronger, someone who might have threatened them if they talked.
Posted by: Molly | Sunday, November 06, 2005 at 12:39 AM
hahaha, that post I was refering too certainly got removed quickly. I did see that did I not? Dan??? Just reply yes or no--making sure I'm not "nuts".
Posted by: abigail | Sunday, November 06, 2005 at 12:40 AM
Dan??? Just reply yes
Posted by: Dan | Sunday, November 06, 2005 at 12:42 AM
Was't there a mother in MB who claimed her child had information and she could not get LE to interview her kid? Every last person on that trip should have been questioned, not just one time. Beth would not get away with this behavior in the states, that for sure.
Posted by: cindi in pa | Sunday, November 06, 2005 at 12:43 AM
Posted by: abigail | Nov 6, 2005 12:40:18 AM
I saw it too Abi lol
Posted by: cindi in pa | Sunday, November 06, 2005 at 12:45 AM
"It appears her agenda against Aruba law enforcement has now superceded any concern she may have once had for getting answers to what happened to Natalee. Unbelieveable ... and obstructionist. I can't even comprehend what is going on with this woman anymore."
IMO, nothing new, just now as LE is approaching real perpetrators, who are in MB (including Mrs. Twitty herself), she is firing her last bullets.
Posted by: George | Sunday, November 06, 2005 at 12:46 AM
http://www.hyscience.com/archives/2005/11/harrytho_115_na.php : "Mrs. Twitty came with a group of American journalists who were at all times walking with her. And although she told the Strategic Commission that she did not know that some media would follow her to Aruba, it was obvious that they had a very close relationship. Her friend was in the car with an MSNBC producer, for example.
...
Clearly, this article defines Mrs. Twitty as being untruthful to a number of entities, including the American media. The film crew was a part of her entourage. This was a planned trip to Aruba, designed to intimidate the Aruban authorities. I believe we can say, this investigation is turning toward the questionable integrity of the Twitty-Holloway-Mansur conspiracy, the Mountain brook teens ..."
Posted by: George | Sunday, November 06, 2005 at 12:48 AM
Texas05 - Dave and Abram - see above are the same poster - yes, when you take on identities to support yourself and then attack me - yes, he is gone for those actions.
Posted by: Dan | Nov 6, 2005 12:01:00 AM
Wow,why would anyone take on multiple identities???Glad he/she are gone if they are truly guilty of the crime.
>>>>>>>
I pose to you the question..IF it were your duaghter how woudl you handle it at this point ?Its a fact the case was screwed in the early going ! I do believe that most everyone has agreed on that !
The women is heartbroken, don't you see that or do you too wear Rose colored glasses.
Posted by: ! | Nov 6, 2005 12:02:18 AM
I hope that I am never in her situation.But I think I can accurately say that I would be embracing the only ones who could truly help me and get justice for my daughter.At this point I would be begging the local TV station to broadcast my plea for all of the kids,chaperones,people who went of their own accord to please cooperate with ALE/FBI to further the investigation.I would truly leave no stone unturned no matter how many times I had to turn the stone over to get leads of any sort no matter how insignificant they may be.
Sure I can see that she is heartbroken but the fact is the broken heart should demand cooperation from those who she sees as her peers in her own hometown.I also see that she is abot as self serving as anyone I have ever seen and she does not hesitate to lie through her teeth.The biggest lie that she has told that has caused her descent as a media darling is the fact that she actually said that the toothbrush that had male dna on it (yes the one she gave to ALE as a source of dna for Nat) belonged to one of the other girls who shared the room with Nat.That's a pretty damn low blow to continue making herself out to be the perfect parent.
Posted by: bizman | Sunday, November 06, 2005 at 12:48 AM
Have to admitt, she may not be going about things the way we would like, but she sure as hell has the attention.........still.
Posted by: cindi in pa | Sunday, November 06, 2005 at 12:48 AM
I think Beth is in the wrong line of work. Apparently she feels she can lead the investigation better than the ALE and FBI. If she doesn't like what they are doing she just goes on the news and lets the world know. At least its working though I mean look at what she has accomplished. Maybe she can help find the missing principal in Alabama. She's very good at multi tasking.
Posted by: 26ANDCOUNTING | Sunday, November 06, 2005 at 12:49 AM
Dan??? Just reply yes
Posted by: Dan | Nov 6, 20
Sorry crackheads are posting and thanks for providing this public "forum", as it must take tons of time to keep up with all of it. Keep up the good work and keep the site going so we can all learn, heal and maybe just vent--as long as it's not against you! :)
Posted by: abigail | Sunday, November 06, 2005 at 12:50 AM
Posted by: bizman | Nov 6, 2005 12:48:28 AM
You already posted that. What is your point?
Posted by: cindi in pa | Sunday, November 06, 2005 at 12:50 AM
George,
so just how is that you KNOW the REAL perpetrators are in MB? Where is your proof of that statement? I mean damn since you know this save us all from this hell and solve the case......
Posted by: Scott | Sunday, November 06, 2005 at 12:52 AM
Its not up to BETH to make the call on whether or not the other kids on the trip are questioned once again. They have parents to and I would imagine it would also be up to those parents to make the decision whether or not their kids are questioned. I am sure they have a copy of the statement they made and if they see that it needs to be rehashed I am sure they as indiviuals woudl make the right decision for the sake of Natalee.!
Posted by: ! | Nov 6, 2005 12:07:03 AM
I believe they are adults and their parents cannot decide whether or not they can be questioned.
I think it is standard in most cases for witnesses to be interviewed more than once if warranted. Nothing unusual there and for anyone to assume that there would be no additional questioning five months later with an unsolved case is not being rational.
The attacks on ALE commenced when Dompig stated that he had additonal witnesses to interview and that they were in the US.
Posted by: greenwing | Sunday, November 06, 2005 at 12:52 AM
Does Beth Twitty want this case solved? I doubt it, if it is solved she wont get to go on TV and no more donations. No wonder she is obstructing the police.
Posted by: Amber | Sunday, November 06, 2005 at 12:56 AM