Beth Twitty: Clarification Per Hyscience Article

Frankly, I wouldn't think this was significant, but thought I'd clear it up from my perspective. At the link below to Hyscience, it appears to link to a news story addressing whether or not Beth Twitty was filming in Aruba during her recent visit.

ARUBA – “Absolutely nonsense”, is Beth Twitty’s reaction on the news reports about her being accompanied by a film crew of Paramount Pictures or other media during her stay in Aruba. She arrived in Aruba earlier this week accompanied by her girlfriend Carol.

What I found surprising was the denial given I was sent an image of her and others setting up to film outside of the office of Helen Lejuez, which I believe was the first night of her visit. It was a large image file and a bit blurry, so I didn't even bother posting it at the time.

I did reduce it, making the focus even worse, but clearly there was filming of some sort going on. Observers on the ground had actually reported it prior to my receiving the image. As I said, I don't see the big deal with it, really. But I thought I'd post the image to correct the record. I assume this was personal filming of some kind and not a network, and certainly not Paramount Pictures.

Comments

[Jami]

So there is a camera tripod there. Does that mean she arrived with them, that they are there with her. Come on, this picture means absolutely nothing.

[Katie]

So there is a camera tripod there. Does that mean she arrived with them, that they are there with her. Come on, this picture means absolutely nothing.

Posted by: Jami | Nov 4, 2005 10:41:44 PM

I agree. And, not saying this as a statement but more as a question. What is the big deal with a camera crew anyways? Just for the fact that she could be doing that trip for publicity? JW.

[George]

So there is a camera tripod there. Does that mean she arrived with them, that they are there with her.

Posted by: Jami | Nov 4, 2005 10:41:44 PM

No, this just means that her reaction "Absolutely nonsense" on the news reports about "her being accompanied by a film crew" is UNTRUTHful.

[swanky]

Before I even clicked on to comment, I was thinking it just looks like a camera tripod - no big deal - maybe a local reporter wanting to set up to get some shots for a local paper? There's no way to know who owns the tripod.

[Dan]

Maybe the tripod was for the kool aide stand. LOL Look, as I said, why the big deal? But, no, it wasn't "someone else" she carried with her the ability to film. good lord, some of you are bizarre in your inability to believe anything other than one version of all this.

[wreck]

What is "untruthful"? Just because a camara is present doesn't mean that a)it is a camara "crew" or b) a camara crew "accompnied" her. It just means that a camara was set up or possibly there was crew following her around with or without her consent. Either way, who cares!

[cadali]

What's your issue, Dan? Why is it so important for you to dog Beth Twitty? Surely you can find some other vulnerable woman to kick around. Give it a rest.

[George]

Either way, who cares!

Posted by: wreck | Nov 4, 2005 11:02:34 PM

“Absolutely nonsense”, is Beth Twitty’s reaction ...

:-) Got it?

[Dan]

What's your issue, Dan? Why is it so important for you to dog Beth Twitty?

I've never dogged anyone or anything about this case but the truth. Deal with it.

[o.t.]

Deal with it? Hah!

You've done everything in your power (limited though it may be) to foster a divide between Beth Twitty and Dave Holloway. What this family really needs is to work together to bring their daughter home. You've done a hell of a lot more damage than good, Dan. I think you need to re-examine your motives.

[wreck]

It IS absolutely nonsense. Everything she says or does is scrutinized and parsed as if SHE is the main SUSPECT in this case. Everyone loved Dave because he did not make waves. Well, now he has had it too! Dan, I know you have other theories, but you don't even pretend to even consider that just perhaps this investigation is seriously flawed. The original suspects are still the most logical suspects until you or anyone else can come up with someone better. You told me once that you personally gave Dave some important leads. Well, your leads apparently did not pan out or ALE has not followed up on them. Which is it? Either your sources are flawed or ALE IS.

[bizarre]

Last night there was a very angry poster on who was saying something about the young woman's mother having a microphone pack on her hip. There is nothing wrong with bringing a camera crew, the real problem is though, that after the "skeeter's tape" and all the cable news circus the people on that island are afraid they will be "set up". So now, they are afraid to even talk to her on the phone because they assume they are going to be taped. It is a logical assumption. Sadly, it is contributing to the environment of distrust that is pervasive in this situation. can anyone one tell me what forwarding this feeling of distrust is accomplishing?

[alert]

Perhaps Dave understands Natalee is "lost" no matter what the outcome... He has perhaps resisted the attempts of the Twitty briggade persasiveness to join their camp. Reality hit..
he does have another family, his finances are not ala MB, so he accepted their $$$ offer and signed on.

[Dan]

You told me once that you personally gave Dave some important leads. Well, your leads apparently did not pan out or ALE has not followed up on them. Which is it?

The fact is I offered to have Dave meet with very credible people in Aruba to discuss the case fom any perspective. They never even bothered to ask for the names and contact information. And as they did not know the individuals, or any point of view they might have, it's impossible to conclude they dismissed them based on any understanding of what they may know or think.

And, no, I do not have some "grudge" about it. so please don't go there. There was nothing in it for me at all. But I was amazed that they apparently weren't at all interested. Yet, I have seen references to some of the more outlandish Internet rumors around - an illegitimate son, Posner, etc. Frankly, I find that amazing ... even troubling, actually. But, whatever.

[Aunt Em]

OT - while I disagree with alot that Dan has brought to light, that is exactly what he is doing. Bringing it to light.

My opinion hasnt changed, I still think that the kids had something to do with Natalees death, DIRECTLY.

But Dan is just reporting what he gets.

Like he said, DEAL WITH IT.

Damn you Dan. And you know what I mean by that lol.

[Dan]

You've done everything in your power (limited though it may be) to foster a divide between Beth Twitty and Dave Holloway.

LMAO My God, you people are disturbed. Now my blog came between someone and their ex-wife. LOL Clearly you don't have ANY idea of what you're talking about on that score. Good Lord, no wonder I limit my comment reading so much. ha ha ha That is rich.

[George]

SHE is the main SUSPECT in this case. ... The original suspects are still the most logical suspects until you or anyone else can come up with someone better.

Posted by: wreck | Nov 4, 2005 11:33:52 PM

Now YOU have done (above). :-)

[just_lurking]

Reposting my post from the NH forum here. BTW, Dan I am glad that you following up with this story.

Repost:

I watched Greta tonight. Talk about insulting. She spends ?15 minutes talking about NH then probably less than 2 minutes talking about the soldier MIA in Iraq.

Then she talks to the friend of the missing GA beauty queen, and says something like: well all investigations look first the family and friends . . . Of course this is 180 degrees different than what she has said in the BT case which is basically, why are the authorites questioning the family and what do these questions have to do with finding NH. (this is summation of a few nights). If Greta tries a little harder she'll be talking out of both sides of her mouth for real.

And honestly, I think finding a missing US soldier is a lot more important. How long did his family spend talking on Greta's show? Uh none? Is his family not as deserving as the Twittys?

Posted by: just_lurking | Nov 4, 2005 11:52:25 PM

[Aunt Em]

Lurking, no offense, but people going missing in a war zone is no surprise.

And how is a soldier more important than our college kids exactly?

[RdWarrior]

I wonder if Dave finally got the message about this site and its use as a conduit to slime Beth and the MB kids.

I mean come on, Dompig was using "info" posted on this site when he talked to the media

The latest I heard is that the FBI told Aruba NO regarding interviewing again the MB kids. The FBI obviously is tired w Aruba BS. And, they obviously figured out that Aruba's sole intention was to wrongfully frame a MB kid for Natalee's disappearance

It has been a bad week for Beth Bashers:

Dave now is siding w Beth.

The letter has sent waves in the Aruban govt

The Tourism Board meets w Beth....man are they afraid of a boycott or what?

Julia Renfro will probably sell her Aruban holdings and head back to the US

BOYCOTT ARUBA....Hugo Chavez Even Is Worried About Aruba

[Casara]

Did any of you watch the video of Dave Holloway along with a reporter STUMBLE upon a cross memorial to Natalee Holloway, as they were going to check out a lead from someone in Aruba saying that on the morning Natalee disappeared a boat was launched from that area of the beach and a body was taken out to sea and dumped from that boat. Dave did not know about the memorial until he went to check out that stretch of beach. It was so heartbreaking. The cross had NH engraved on it, along with a rosary. You could tell DAve was in shock.
Also, he said that Dompig had directed him to search in the water, but when Dave and the search teams arrived with all of their equipment...he simply said he did not have the time to contact the prosecution to get the ok. This is totally outrageous and unbelievable!
Another unbelievable statement was made by the chief investigator several times to Dave: "how much money do you have?" What's up with this?
HONESTLY, WHAT IS GOING ON IN ARUBA???
Also, DAve said they had a major witness in the case who he felt could solve the case. He went straight to Dompig and asked him to please interrogate this witness. To this date, Dompig has failed to do so.
CAN ANYONE EXPLAIN THESE THINGS TO ME, AS I CAN MAKE ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE FROM THEM. CAN ANY OF YOU?

[gagal_05]

And how is a soldier more important than our college kids exactly?

Posted by: Aunt Em | Nov 5, 2005 12:07:02 AM

You have got to be kidding. You have had way too much of the Twitty kool-aid!

[Aunt Em]

I really am not interested in anything but your response as to why a child soldier is more important than a college kid.

I personally love all kids. I dont think that the choice between military and college makes anybody more or less important.

So can you answer the question rather than dodge it?

[cadali]

Thank you, Casara, for an informative post about new developments.

Who cares whether Beth stood near a camera or Dave never met with Dan's "credible people"?

The cross could be a clue. I hope it hasn't fallen into the hands of ALE where it will probably wind up in an incinerator.

[Casara]

Who cares whether Beth stood near a camera or Dave never met with Dan's "credible people"?

The cross could be a clue. I hope it hasn't fallen into the hands of ALE where it will probably wind up in an incinerator.___________

EXACTLY, CADALI...EXACTLY.

[Skye]

Just a curious question, Dan. Have you ever been to Aruba? Have you been to the island and obtained any information personally?

[lotusjani]

Just a curious question, Dan. Have you ever been to Aruba? Have you been to the island and obtained any information personally?

Posted by: Skye
*************************************************

OF COURSE NOT!
Everything Beth does is wrong, even if a photographer has a tripoid. Beth this, Beth that, they are trying to separate the Twitty-Holloway fronts, but they will not succeed as Marcia Holloway said, why say if Beth is Hitler's daughter or grandaughter? And even if she was, what does that have to do with Natalee's dissappearance.? Marcia H. came out swinging to defend Beth, these are two families in one, all these "persons" things all of a sudden change their channels to attack Beth, now even Dave. I hope these four parents keep bothering the hell out of Aruba and all these people that write manure against them. Doompig is a coward, Karin Jenssen is a dog, all the oficials stink!

[Moggy]

Now I have seen it all.

Posting a fuzzy picture like that and then randomly implying that Beth is filming with Paramount Picture in Aruba is something that Jossy and the "National Enquirer-esque" piece of rubbish that Diario would do.

[Moggy]

excuse the typos - its before 7am here in England and I haven't had my coffee!!!

[hardyandtiny]

The guy wearing soft sole Adidas sneakers probably has gout.

[newswatcher]

So there is a camera tripod there. Does that mean she arrived with them, that they are there with her.

Posted by: Jami | Nov 4, 2005 10:41:44 PM

No, this just means that her reaction "Absolutely nonsense" on the news reports about "her being accompanied by a film crew" is UNTRUTHful.

Posted by: George | Nov 4, 2005 10:54:52 PM

Reports from Aruba state the film crew followed her wherever she went on Aruba while she was miked. She lies.

Also to believe that the FBI informed Nancy Grace of what they will or will not allow is crazy.

[nursemind]

And how is a soldier more important than our college kids exactly?

Posted by: Aunt Em | Nov 5, 2005 12:07:02 AM

A human is a human but soldiers are working to protect you and the freedoms you enjoy....like saying what you just said.

[Jody]

Beth Twitty is now claiming she doesn't have the money to search for Natalee if she is alive? WHAT? She can buy her son a Tundra and travel to Philadelphia to meet with her hoodlum friend, but she doesn't have the money to look for her daughter?

She doesn't want to find Natalee alive. That would mean the end to her celebrity status and the money.

[Honey]

I really am not interested in anything but your response as to why a child soldier is more important than a college kid.

I personally love all kids. I dont think that the choice between military and college makes anybody more or less important.

So can you answer the question rather than dodge it?

Posted by: Aunt Em | Nov 5, 2005 12:32:16 AM

A soldier is more likely to be tortured and beheaded if he isn't found soon.

[truthbetold]

Beth Twitty is now claiming she doesn't have the money to search for Natalee if she is alive? WHAT? She can buy her son a Tundra and travel to Philadelphia to meet with her hoodlum friend, but she doesn't have the money to look for her daughter?

She doesn't want to find Natalee alive. That would mean the end to her celebrity status and the money.

Posted by: Jody | Nov 5, 2005 2:11:53 AM

she doesn't have it?? where di it all go??? another manipulation to get people to feel sorry for her and donate more....that woman was given enough money to search for natalee and every other missing kid in the world ..I wouldn't give her another penny

[Honey]

But I thought I'd post the image to correct the record. I assume this was personal filming of some kind

Posted by Dan in Natalee Holloway | Permalink

Unlikely. The woman in red has a still camera. The
thing on the camera is a shotgun mic. The picture
is probably fuzzy because it's a vid cap from the
person behind the man with the mic.

[Moggy]

She doesn't want to find Natalee alive. That would mean the end to her celebrity status and the money.

Posted by: Jody | Nov 5, 2005 2:11:53 AM

You are a sick puppy.

[Abram]

Maybe the tripod was for the kool aide stand. LOL Look, as I said, why the big deal? But, no, it wasn't "someone else" she carried with her the ability to film. good lord, some of you are bizarre in your inability to believe anything other than one version of all this.

Posted by: Dan | Nov 4, 2005 11:01:51 PM

Do you have information that Beth carried the ability to film with her, whatever that means? Or are you just assuming that the presence of a tripod means Beth has brought a media crew with her? There is probably quite a lot of media on the island who would film her, given the chance.

[Brooke]

"No, this just means that her reaction "Absolutely nonsense" on the news reports about "her being accompanied by a film crew" is UNTRUTHful.

Posted by: George | Nov 4, 2005 10:54:52 PM"

Beth-queenie unthruthful?? Wow what a shock!
She is obviously playing everyone for the FOOL
"Ms poor grieving mother" and IF you believe that one
" Ms I am just wanting to find my daughter" yeh right.
She gets a camera crew to start the movies and books she wanted all along, hogging the TV wasn't enough for her, she is a money hungry and self centered "grieving mother".

And for all you Beth-co-dependents guess what she wont give you any of the money so give it up!

Dont you dare call me names, I see through her and that's what bothers you co-dependent sicko's!!

She needs to be investigated totally and completely!! "Oh my missing daughter" " all I want are those bad boys to be arrested" (why so they wont look at you as a suspect??) "I am just trying t find my daughter" (no you had bigger better things in mind didnt you?) As is evident and OBVIOUS to any logical person but the Beth-co-dependents cant see the TRUTH about their "hero".

[Shari]

Maybe, just maybe, Beth needed recorded proof of her dealings in Aruba - especially since things mysteriously go missing. I highly doubt she brought a camera crew for the MSM, I'm sure it was just a recording for her own records. After everything this poor lady has been put through, I can't blame her in the least. If you're trying to prove that she is lying, it didn't work.

[Brooke]

One other thing, I used to give credit to Dave Holloway for not being one of the co-dependents of his ex-wife now he is making outrageous comments just like his ex-wife does, pretty sad because he seemed to be the only sensible one in the bunch.

[RdWarrior]

The reason Dave didnt use any of the "tips" Dan Riehl was that he was tipped off at all the slandering this site has done, and that Aruba has used this site to slander the family.

Riehl has no credibility

Also.....it should be noted that Alabama has no tort limits. If the family sues Riehl in court, even Federal, if the suit is in Alabama it goes by Alabama tort rules as a diversity jurisdiction claim. The more you know.....

BOYCOTT ARUBA....Begins Soon

[berry]

Well, you'd have to be pretty stupid not to imagine what really happened last week. BT, or her agents, planned the trip to accomplish the goal of presenting the Aruban To Do list and pacify tourism authorities.

A reasonable person would have to admit the cameras were there to record the events. Vanity Fair is there to record events. Perhaps she and her girlfriend and brother arrived in a group - but it is non-sensical not to believe she knew about the Paramount film crew and the other media.

She was not forthcomong when asked about a film crew. She should have admitted the truth. Like she wants the trio to do.

[cadali]

Berry, it sounds like you take the same pleasure in dogging Beth Twitty as Dan. Whether or not Beth was "forthcoming" about a film crew is supposed to be comparable to the behavior of the 3 boys who lied to police, family and everyone else about a missing girl? In the US that would be criminal.

And now Beth Twitty is supposed to be a lying crook because she said that searching South America for Natalee is more than she can accomplish? Aruba is a teeny little island. South America is a CONTINENT. Get it, Beth bashers? Of course not, that's beside the point, isn't it?

[keylargogirl]

She needs to be investigated totally and completely!! "Oh my missing daughter" " all I want are those bad boys to be arrested" (why so they wont look at you as a suspect??) "I am just trying t find my daughter" (no you had bigger better things in mind didnt you?) As is evident and OBVIOUS to any logical person but the Beth-co-dependents cant see the TRUTH about their "hero".

Posted by: Brooke | Nov 5, 2005 7:10:22 AM

Its okay. Some of us are just not as smart as the others. I am sorry you are in the delinquent area there. You can keep on trying to shift the blame so irrationally on Beth Twitty, it just shows your level of intelligence. Beth has every right to do all she can to find her daughter, and I do mean ALL that she can. You are obviously a very cold and callous person, who chooses to believe three proven liars, other than the distraught mother of a missing girl.

I do hope that you know the word karma, and its meaning, although I have my doubts. Look it up in the dictionary, and then sit back and wait. People like you should remember what comes around goes around.

Also, I think you must be either friend or family of the three perverts to be so protective of them. I find you laughable, and hope that you are able to see just how silly you sound. Have a great day!

[Brooke]

"you can keep on trying to shift the blame so irrationally on Beth Twitty, it just shows your level of intelligence."
Posted by: keylargogirl | Nov 5, 2005 10:12:04 AM"

Spoken like the true beth-co-dependent that you are.
Hmmm why do you all feel the OBSESSIVE-COMPULSIVE NEED to defend queenie beth?

Oh and look up OCD and co-dependent just in case your intelligence level doesn't understand what those big words mean.

[Brooke]

""People like you should remember what comes around goes around.

Also, I think you must be either friend or family of the three perverts to be so protective of them. I find you laughable, and hope that you are able to see just how silly you sound. Have a great day!

Posted by: keylargogirl | Nov 5, 2005 10:12:04 AM"

EXACTLY what goes around comes around and I cant wait till Beth and your Karma catches up with you two.

Oh I hate to disappoint you, silly, but no I am not related to either of the 3 that you all have condemned, just an American who hates seeing a person try to scam the general public.
Hey, thanks, you too have a great day Ms Key Largo
because I certainly am..

[a..incanada]

Dan, I don't know how you do it; managing to stay sane with such picky, argumentive insults hurled at you much of the time.
You're doing a great job!

[lsdoone]

dave-
I found your blog months ago thanks to steve huff.
Thanks for giving me intelligent thoughts to read.

To all who are blasting dave-
Some of the talking head, legal shmoozers are coddling Beth Holloway. I notice that Mrs Holloway recieves a more righteously outraged(understatement)reception from Nancy Grace lately and Greta has become more temperate in her coverage of this case. There are at least two sides to this current outrage. I'm assuming that the Aruban government would like nothing more than to get this murder solved. Villifying those in power in the Holloway investigation will not help the communication gap that is evident between the mother and now unfortunately the father of Natalie and the authorities in charge of finding out what happened to their daughter.
Cases go unsolved and cases are terminally messed up right here in the good old USA.
If an Aruban citizen disappeared here and the case went unsolved for months, mistakes made, total role reversal, how would we respond?

[katysmom]

Dan evidently doesn't listen very carefully. During the story about the film crew rumor, Beth herself said the local media showed up. Dan, more and more, sounds like an Aruban official trying to incite the people against Beth.