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It's amazing how something so deadly can be so beautiful.

Are the colors natural or added to make it look as though it comes from the U.S.A. ;-) Great Red and Blue with White highlights! Now all we have to do is look for it and duck!

Thanks Dan. Interesting, but not sure I understand what this means and if they can find something to vaccinate against it or whatever.

but not sure I understand what this means and if they can find something to vaccinate against it or whatever.

Posted by: annie | Nov 7, 2005 1:07:02 AM

annie, they can not work on a human vaccine until it mutates to humans. That's the part that worries me. They are reporting that could take months to develope should it happen.

cindi in pa

Actually they can make a vaccine in the lab and they dont need to wait till it mutates to humans.
In reality,the H5N1 avian flu virus has already jumped from poultry to human beings,it just has not done on a pandemic scale yet.

There are several labs who have been screwing around with the Spanish flu virus from the 1918-1923 that killed around 30 to 50 millions people world wide that has me more concerned than the H5N1. Let the Spanish flu virus get lose and the people who contact this bug can stick their heads between their legs and kiss their own butts good-by cause that is how bad this virus is. The Spanish flu virus kills within 12 to 36 hours. The USA has had the Spanish flu virus live cultures around all these year and no effort was ever made to make a vaccine to combat it. The USA is smart aint they??

Viruses can be grown in a number of different human and animal tissue cell cultures and other culture mediums and this is the usual method of growing viruses to make vaccines.

Antibiotics are made from growing bacteria in culture mediums.

There are a number of natural herbal compounds that are highly effective that destroys viruses,bacteria and fuugi and in many situations they are more effective than modern medicines.

The best defence against viruses,bacteria and fungi is a strong healthy immune system and the practice of good personal hygiene techniques.

ABSOLUTELY, TEXASNURSE! I can't believe how much I have to remind my HUSBAND to wash his hands! It's rediculous! Plus, I've got to start taking disinfectant wipes with me when I go to the grocery store and out to eat. I hate to wash my hands in the restroom only to handle some kind of doorhandle or something that just transfers awful ick back on 'em!

What is the status of vaccine development and production?

Vaccines effective against a pandemic virus are not yet available. Vaccines are produced each year for seasonal influenza but will not protect against pandemic influenza. Although a vaccine against the H5N1 virus is under development in several countries, no vaccine is ready for commercial production and no vaccines are expected to be widely available until several months after the start of a pandemic

Here is the link to WHO that answers many questions people may have.

WHO | Avian influenza frequently asked questions

It the flu people, not some deadly plague.

Remember that Swine Flu nonsense in the 1980's. This is the same thing.


MrsLevy

It the flu people, not some deadly plague.

Remember that Swine Flu nonsense in the 1980's. This is the same thing.

MrsLevy

Posted by: MrsLevy | Nov 7, 2005 1:29:52 PM


First of all, it was 1976 I believe. Second it would be ridiculous to doubt the NIIP because the swine flu never occurred, at least not on the scale it could have. Proper steps were taken when the first 6 cases appeared, and the hundreds that followed. Hundreds of thousands of people received the vaccine. Considering all the people that died in 1918/19 from the same virus, it was considered a wise decision to vaccinate everyone. Thank God we did not need it. But in the end many things were learned about the flu in 1976.
I would rather a World Health Organization and the CDC side with caution than realize the number of deaths that could have occurred. Should a vaccine be available for this flu, which could become a pandemic be made available, you can bet your azz I will get one.

Yes chicken little, the sky could very well fall. Better safe than sorry.

Hi MrsLevy,

Yes you are correct! It is the flu and not some plague....YET!

Viruses and especially bacteria do in fact kill the victim.
Its not the virus itself that kills the victim, its the bacterial pneumonia after effect that kills the victim.

There are several different types of hemorrhagic viruses that kill outright without the pneumona after effect. The vast majority of the time it is pneumonia that kills the Aids victim.

Both viruses and bacteria can and do mutate within several hours to different forms or types.

Bacteria can easily mutate to highly antibiotic resistant forms very quickly that can over power the immune system and kill the victim.
Actually, the bacteria grows and/or mutates so quickly that a persons immune system cannot produce anitbodies fast enough to help fight off the infection.

Most of the bacteria we deal with in this day and age are highly resistant to most of the antibiotics that are currently available including some of the newer types of antibiotics.


Hi Cindi in Pa,

I was not trying to discredit or be argumentative with you are anyone else on a personal or professional basis.

Actually what I met and should have stated was there is current research going on and a expermental human vaccine is in different stages of development in several different labs around the world. From some of the articles that I have read, the drugs companies who are in the process of developing the specific vaccine for the H5N1 virus and have it fairly well prefected but have not started producing it yet on a mass scale cause they are waiting and watching to see if this virus is going to start effecting humans on a pandemic scale or not.

It is my professional opinion and I do not think it is a very wise decision for the drug companies to sit around on their butts with their wait and see what may happen mentality before they take any action.

I think the drug companies need to get their heads out of their shoes and get the vaccine on the market in an effort to stop a possible pandemic before it ever gets a chance to start because this is the wise and safest action to take.

I am going to be off line for awhile and I'll catch you guys later this after noon!


Hi betsy,

Thanks for your nice commits for they are most welcome. You are so correct about the hand washing and using the disinfectant gels and wipes for these products are simple to use and they are highly effective techniques that can put a stop to alot of different health problems and can prevent or at least slow down or stop the spread viral and bacterial bugs.

Dear all ,
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We are discussing some of these matters with many previous contributors from the FluWiki at Monotreme's Pandemic Influenza Forum:

http://pfiforum.com/

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