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Frawley hated Crabill, he had a long time to think about how he would kill her without leaving a sign. He thought it through, over and over in his mind, evaluated options, researched. When Behl presented a threat, he knew how to take care of it and he did.

Are there any computer saavy bloggers out there who can help me figure out how to retrieve a cached Web page? In other words, if a web page is updated, can anyone help me figure out how to retrieve the version of page was was replaced?

I don't see how "illegal" was misunderstood when you add "before she turns 18".

I think BF was rejected, plain and simple.

Its a very sad thing that back in Feb. when Taylors friend introduced her to Fawley that he was able to take advantage of her then and weave her into his tangled web. She was so young and vunerable. I think from that point because of her looking like his girlfriend that had broken up with him he turned to Taylor as his next victom. He because obsessed with her and wanted her for his own. She was not really interested in him that much as he did not like that when she started school knowing she was skateboarding with other people she had met and having dinner with new friends and so forth. It was another rejection for him and he was so obsessed with her and because she was not really interested in him she made a mistake back in February when he told her how pretty she was and took pictures of her and told her she could be a model. I am sure she was flattered. He felt like she betrayed him. Guess he figured if he could not have her then no one else would. When she left to go skateboarding with her new friends she was stalking her and took her that night. What he did to her and how she died may not be known. Maybe he will confess. He took her car and her and drove her there. He brought her car back and changed tags and parked it on thsat street near her other friends house to try and set up someone else doing this to her. His mental state is really screwed. All his actions and lies about being kidnapped just did not work and parking her car near another friends as a coverup, huh. He did it all. Hope he burns in hell. The scumbag creep !!
This is so upsetting. She did nto even see her 18th birthday. She was just 17. What a waste of a beautiful life to come. She was still learning about life and was so vunerable. I feel so sad for her mom and dad. Just like Natalee. Another life wasted by a scumbag.

Moving blog sites so late makes me more tired! It's hard to keep up with you kids...

BF is a reject..oh, I'm sorry you said he was "rejected"--by so many I'm sure.

Who knows what Taylor was implying, but I'm sure she was not talking about her own demise as the "illegal" thing! People have been crapping on Taylor and her reputation all over LJ's and blogs. You know what? She did not ask for this. I don't know what she did in her "private" life, nor does anyone else, but I assure you, she did not do unto others as was done to her. So, Benjamin Fawley, put that in your pipe and smoke it. You are a disgrace and I wish I had run into you before her. I would have cracked your shit WIDE open.
Late and I'm getting worked up, so I'm off--need a smoke first though! GBTB!

i'm all for digging around hunting for possible motives.. yet, sheesh, sometimes, and OFTEN in this case, the "speculation" kinda ventures off into "woo-woo" land.. and i am surprised that you would even posit such a scenario as posted above, dan.. kinda like blood in the water..

let's think that supposition thru, k?

taylor goes to ben's.. knocks on the door.. no answer.. it's open, so she walks in.. ben is nekkid in front of his computer.. taylor is like, "omigosh! ben ! what are you doing?" and he says, "oh! hi! uhh. nothing.. just looking at some child porn with 1 and 2 year old children. i really dig this stuff! wanna see?" and taylor is like, "dude! you're gross! i'm going to report you to the authorities as soon as i tell my friend i saw something illegal" and ben is like, "bummer, ok.. but after you tell him i will kill you before you can report me" and taylor is like, "ok.. KEWL !"

gimme a break

I think that Ben planned everything, maybe not well, but he planned everything. I do not know how he had so much involvement online.

If Ben broke into the house to get photo equipment, the house where the dog tracked a scent from Taylor's car, why was the tripod overlooked by the cops? They knew about Ben and his hobbies, the tripod should have at least triggered LE's memory of wheteher it was in the trunk.

I have thought about the highly illegal statement often, and I have decided that if she said it, it was a trap by Ben, or perhaps enough X, weed and prescription drugs will make you say anything.

perhaps enough X, weed and prescription drugs will make you say anything.

Posted by: Jane Doe | Oct 21, 2005 1:09:43 AM

i love this stuff.. i think i saw this on the last Oprah.. sure, maybe ben was forcibly stuffing weed, X, oxycontins, viagra, and methampetamines into Taylor until she was a blob of jello..

i don't think so..

here's my theory, since everybody is on the drugz kick:

they went to the beach to do some acid.. the timing is right, the setting is right, and if this is a drug thing, then that is my feeling..

now.. as per her death/murder.. hmm.. coulda been they were both trippin so hard that when they did the "consensual" roughsex, that it got out of hand, and she expired.. and ben, tripping his balls off, totally freaked out and the rest is history..

i have read some stuff here about a pelvic injury.. i haven't seen any "hard" reporting on that, but here's my take on that w/ the above mentioned drug scenario..

they go to the beach to trip and skateboard.. while tripping like crazy they decide to do the car/skateboard thing (with ben driving of course) .. an accident occurs, and she buys the farm.. ben freaks out since he is tripping and a felon and she is dead and he isn't sposed to be driving and dumps her. i dunno.. maybe they were doing x and weed and rx drugs..

in my opinion.. LSD would have been seen very "apropos" early birthday present for a young incoming college kid.. and perhaps the friend who said "highly illegal" was just referring what he was told (ph: i'm gonna go do some acid tonight) as such, to not have to explain what it was exactly that she had said.. to clarify: perhaps "highly illegal" were his words and not hers..

Are there any computer saavy bloggers out there who can help me figure out how to retrieve a cached Web page? In other words, if a web page is updated, can anyone help me figure out how to retrieve the version of page was was replaced?

Posted by: Bob | Oct 21, 2005 12:29:41 AM

bob.. you can try the wayback machine.. if it is part of their records, it will have all versions scanned to date..

http://www.archive.org/

axmikel
How do I get around a "Robots.txt Query Exclusion"?
Are there any computer saavy bloggers out there who can help me figure out how to retrieve a cached Web page? In other words, if a web page is updated, can anyone help me figure out how to retrieve the version of page was was replaced?

Posted by: Bob | Oct 21, 2005 12:29:41 AM

bob.. you can try the wayback machine.. if it is part of their records, it will have all versions scanned to date..

http://www.archive.org/

bob..

there is something in the FAQ or somewhere on the site that addresses the robots.txt thing.. i recall seeing it, but i never had any problems using the site, so i never looked further.. check the FAQ or do a search on the website

hmm.. a quick looksee sez, you can't get aound that.. shame.. the archive rox0rz.. :)

what site are you trying to dig into?

I don't think he meant to kill her. I think he lost control of himself. Remember, this is a guy who prides himself in being a "Master" In fetish speak, he is in ultimate control. Someone like that doesn't lose control unless he wants to. That's the game, he controls himself by controlling others. If there is noone to control, he is powerless. That's why Erin would never have been harmed. Ben was doing what he could to control her and she was bucking him and throwing him for a loop. But he was not stupid enough to think he could frame her. Or was he?

I guess I should leave the speculation to the experts huh.

axmikel
I arrived at the same info. The Web site has to authorize the crawl. Dammit. If I was popo I could court order but unless someone has saved I am screwed. Can't say what I'm looking for cause then I never get the info. Crapola. This site was down for 30 mins manybe more I wondred why.

Can't say what I'm looking for cause then I never get the info.
Posted by: Bob | Oct 21, 2005 2:39:24 AM

hmm.. well, can't help ya further if ya don't spill the info needed to help.. :)

i trust you have tried google cache..

good luck or share your interest.. i would think some of the brilliant minds here could help dig something up from wherever you are curious..

would be nice to have a "project" for a bit.. my insomnia has kicked in, and this place seems asleep.. and i'm not really in the mood to make any "art" at the moment..

axmikel
can't post public what i want. sorry not you. will wait for more options maybe we try tomorrow. is your e-mail legit?

ax mikel

sorry not ABOUT you. will try perhaps tomorrow. thanks for offer.

I think that taylor's "highly illegal" activities does have something to do with drugs and/or some type of property thing...either crashing an abandoned wherehouse or building to throw a party or just tagging it up. she was into skating right? A lot of skaters I know tag (not to say every skater tags). As for the drug end I dont think lsd would be involved as much only because if you drop lsd you want to be with someone you trust. i read on her lj that she wasn't into hardcore drugs. lsd will have you trippin hardcore, and if she wasn't into the scene then I highly doubt she would be trippin at night with a guy she may not have wanted to be around (friends said she was calling it off). Also it can be kinda tough to get LSD, unless you know the right people. It's not like back in the 70s where it was easier to get. I live in California and it's pretty hard to get acid. I think that if she wanted to do drugs that night it would have been X (pretty big in the college scene). But again, I dont think she would have willingingly done (hardcore) drugs with Fawley unless she planed it. If anything he may have enticed her with some maryjane or alcohol to just kick it and could have slipped her some GHB (colorless, odorless, and tasteless). If she injested GHB, then BF could have had his way with her (i've been drugged with it before, and trust me you have no control of what the f*ck happens to you). It's a date rape drug.

with that said i think there's 2 possible motives.

1) He gave her too much ghb (that shit will kill you) freaked out and dumped the body in the most isolated place he could think of

2) Taylor rejected him , he lost it, killed her, then he realized how f*cked he really was, and with nothing to lose he decided to destroy as much as he could be placing the body near Erin's estate, then reverted back to his pathetic self and played the victim.

I try to keep up with all the posts, but I haven't seen this thought:
Fawley claims child porn on computer was placed by a previous roommate. Cino was a previous roommate. I am not placing this blame on Cino. I respect Cino's respect for others. But just thought I would make mention.

Do people still call Ecxtasy, "X" on the east coast? Blew my mind in the 90's-everyone here started calling them "rolls". Dude. Whatever.

I have speculated enough on prior threads, and i'ts way too early for it here...... have a good day

... I personally would like to hear *something*
... *ANYTHING* from these mysterious '3 skateboarders' before I start throwin' my theories around. I believe they are a big piece to this puzzle.. not in that they had a hand in it but.. did they hook up at all?... was it truly planned for all to get together that night?
...I have lots of questions for those guys..

i'm thinking red herring.. sounds yummy

i think the 3 skatboarders are all hiding out at the hispanic samaritan's house fighting over the tripod and the camera with the $20 in it

i'm thinking red herring.. sounds yummy

Posted by: axmikel | Oct 21, 2005 7:51:23 AM


I'm sorry... are you speaking to me?

Motive?? I think some people are just born killers. Ben Fawley was one of them. He may have thought he had a motive but he didn't. Did he? He is just one of those sick idividuals that should have been a miscarriage or abortion.

Just my opinion.

axlethere-
... she had told her mother earlier.. that she was doing this later that night. So she told both mom and roommate this. Which leads me to believe that the 'something illegal' had been planned ahead of time... how long is the question.

no, i was just food fetishing.. i do that when i'm free of the obsession to make "art" i'm told

Bob

If you have Javascript turned off, images and links will be from the live web, not from the archive of old Web files. Other than that, there is no way around the robots.txt. It is put in place at the request of the web owner for the entire site, words or a certain page. Once the robots is put into place, records are no longer kept. Don't think you will get around this, unless maybe you find a pc hack, and that is illegal as hell.

auntiethere-
...if you will scroll up a wee bit in the comments, you can see my thoughts on her "illegal activity" etc and so forth

axmikel,
Did you sleep last night? :)

no, i was just food fetishing.. i do that when i'm free of the obsession to make "art" i'm told

Posted by: axmikel | Oct 21, 2005 8:03:00 AM


...rrrrrright.

So. Which Friend o' Fawley's might you be..?

auntiethere-
...if you will scroll up a wee bit in the comments, you can see my thoughts on her "illegal activity" etc and so forth

Posted by: axmikel | Oct 21, 2005 8:05:38 AM

... you mean the bit where he sits naked (:shudder:) in front of his computer?

?

oh ! i get it !

i am ben's BESTEST friend.. we talk all the time and do drugs and crimes and have homosexual sex together when we aren't out killing teenage girls..

does this answer your question?

i beleive it was "nekkid" as written

lol..hi teresa..

no..

Axl... are you or are you not a *friend* of is?

... your posts just reek of *bad art* and *bad writing*: = Friends o' Fawleys

auntB

i love andy.. i am not in the mood to play your game and i don't think that is appropriate for this board

.. fair enough.

You have a nice day, Axl.

Seems some of us are a bit cranky this morning.

yah.. time for some coffee.. lol

So still nothing new. fawley just can't wait to confess, then silence. No wonder our speculation occasionally bumps against the bizarre

fawley's "confession" was a legal move..

you have CC's "disapproval" and BF's "frantic" need.. and what he said most likely has nothing or little to do with how taylor actually died.. if so, this will play into his manic "lost" hence innocent plea later

"1) He gave her too much ghb (that shit will kill you) freaked out and dumped the body in the most isolated place he could think of"

This one makes a good deal o' sense considering that so many are convinced she wanted to "just be friends". I'm beginning to waiver on Erin's folks place being the only remote place he knew to dump her. Hell he lived in Richmond forever. There's more here...would it not be less obvious to dump her in some abandoned building in town?

agreed.. if he is REALLY THAT STUPID, well...

however i might add:

"1) He gave her too much DIET COKE (that shit will kill you) freaked out and dumped the body in the most isolated place he could think of"

I've heard that people can be meticulous in planning a murder....except for what to do afterwards.

i can se ben now, sitting in prison thinking... "man, if i EVER have to kill somebody again, i think i will find a better place to dump the body.. gee..i so stupid"

R U OK?

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