Taylor Behl: More Evidence Points To Fawley

h/t to Crystal: Emerging information isn't looking very good for suspect Ben Fawley. I would think the times of any transactions might be helpful in noting whether Taylor Behl was killed in Richmond and driven to Mathews County, or if the two might have traveled there earlier while Taylor was still alive.

If the later scenario is true, that could have ramifications for individuals other than Fawley. I don't know if police have found the source for the plastic in which she was wrapped.

Another note - I believe it looked as though Fawley had purchased some donuts on this trip. Even with all the time past, the medical examiner might be able to determine if Taylor was still alive at that time based upon residual stomach contents.

8News has uncovered new details in that case as well. According to multiple sources, Fawley's credit card was used to buy gas in New Kent County around the time Behl disappeared. New Kent County lies between Richmond and Mathews County, where Behl's remains were found.

Update and Correction: It might have been cookies. I was referring to the Pepperidge Farm wrapper which police sought. That's assuming the item was purchased on the road. I may be making a bigger leap there than I should, it just sort of added up. I couldn't think of another reason why the wrapper was listed in the search warrant. So I was thinking a quick mart type of purchase given that police likely already had the credit card receipts when they executed the warrant.

Scratch that theory, apparently the cookies were given to Taylor by her Mother before leaving Richmond.

Comments

[blues]

wasn't LE looking for an empty wrapper for cookies?

[mmy]

Pepperidge Farms cookies...

[Diane]

For petes sake donuts??? This case just keeps you guessing at all angles.

[Midwest anon]

The guy eats donuts when he's doing murder (allegedly).
Lord.

[Diane]

Hopefully they know where the plastic bag came from and someone was not smart enough to get rid of them.

[blues]

does pepperidge farms make donuts?

[Diane]

not that I know of

[cosmicmojo]

The police were looking for P. Farm cookie bag 'cause Taylor's mom gave her a bag when she left Vienna. That would be totally different from any doughnuts Fawley may or may not have bought in New Kent County.

[Dan]

see update

[cosmicmojo]

no, the cookies were purchased by Taylor's mom in Vienna. she gave the cookies to Taylor early on the 5th when she left northern virginia. If Fawley bought some cookies, it would have been hours and hours later in central or eastern virginia.

[cosmicmojo]

Any more info on who the "multiple sources" are for the credit card purchases?

[Dan]

No the report came from the MSM. I'm assuming it was law enforcement.

[Midwest anon]

I'm hungry

Sorry-tension-breaker :)

[bull]

Maybe Fawley did get the ride from the Hispanic back to Richmond - stopping to get gas in the West Point vicinity (all would fit with his alibi). That leaves Taylor's Escort in Diggs with the GRN ERTH plates. The Nissan fits in with a ride to Diggs for Fawley to pick up the car and bring it back to Richmond. Not necessary that the owner of the Nissan would know why Fawley wanted to go - taking pictures, meeting friends, whatever Ben wants to tell him - will get ride back with friends. Early on, I think LE thought that the GRN ERTH plates had been on the Escort and the car had been left somewhere.

LE is not telling us a lot they know. Has been much chatter about the gas at West Point, so this is one of the few pieces of uncorrobated information that I am not inclined to discount. One piece of information, I definitely discount which has just been clutter is the "highly illegal" matter. She may have made it, but I think it had nothing to do with Taylor's demise.

[Midwest anon]

Wise words from bull. I didn't think of the cars that way.
Wonder who the green earth plates belong to?

[bull]

uncorrobated (tough word) = uncorroborated

she may have made it = she may have said it

Joe: Know you don't like Channel 8 - I don't even check them, Channel 12 has done an excellent job.

[bull]

Rumor - definitely not the gospel - GRN ERTH from white Escort station wagon that was several blocks from Fawley's Hancock residence.

Do you get the feeling that Joe is writing at work? Better than playing Free Cell. My apologies if I'm wrong.

[U.S.Marine]

bull:
"uncorrobated (tough word) = uncorroborated"

There's also uncarbureted, uncarbonated, uncollaborated, and uncerebrated from which one may choose ;)

[absynth_minded]

Pokes holes in his alibi, that's for sure. Now all they need is a time of death.

[Midwest anon]

LOL-Free Cell got me through a chemistry job......

Bull-once again, you keep me thinking;)

Wish I could think of a new set of words, but feeling the day, and ready for some wine and a stupid movie.

That, of course, is completely unsubstantiated.

[Captain Joe]

Gotta think he moved her in a van, not a "baby car".

[abigail]

CJ

His wacked out van?

[1inrichmond]

I am speculating.....could GRN ERTH be Erin's license plates? She IS a vegetarian, she says on her "veg porn" site....She is interested in environmental issues. Just wondering....who else could they be?

[abigail]

I thought they were Ohio plates that were "GRN ERTH". I'm probably just confused! But that could mean just environmental stuff, like recycling and rain forests??? Good point about the "veg porn" thing though...I had not put that together--Imagine that!

[1inrichmond]

Again, just speculating, but I don't think they ran the Ohio license plates found on her car....just that they were looking for the GRN ERTH ones. Wonder what Erin's middle name is....could it be Theresa? Now, I have to find out if they are VA plates....I just don't know.

[1inrichmond]

It's a VA plate....

The personalized “GRN ERTH” plate was stolen in Richmond around the time 17-year-old Virginia Commonwealth University freshman Taylor Behl disappeared, and “preliminary information” indicates the two events may be connected, police said.

[1inrichmond]

This is what makes me think the plates might be Erin's. This is from her veg.porn site...

Herbivore stats "I've been vegetarian since 1999 (tonight I'm going veggie like it's nineteen ninety nine!)
Veg story Okay, this is soooo shallow, but I initially went veggie because I was dating someone who was veggie. A few months into the relationship I realized that since I didn't eat meat when I was with him -and I was always with him- that I might as well just not eat meat at all. Plus I thought it would make him like me more. When we broke up I thought that I could eat meat again only if I knew that it wasn't factory farmed (that's always been my biggest problem, the horrible cruelty in which these animals are raised. Shit, we're killing them in the end and they don't even get a good life? How is that fair?) but living in a small town that wasn't an option so I kept on with being veggie. As I became more involved in the activism community I realized that being veg*n makes sense on SO many levels and became more and more loathe to start eating meat again. Recently I saw the movie "Peaceable Kingdom" at the SARA conference. Eating meat isn't really an option anymore. I'm considering becoming vegan.
Why you should go veg if you haven't already It's the easiest way to save our environment. Seriously. Even just cutting back a little makes a huge difference!"

[1inrichmond]

You know, I wonder if they found BF's camera (that he said was stolen) near Taylor's body??? If they find it, I wonder what will be on it.

[Midwest anon]

Cap'n Joe, I was wondering about the Nowhere Van, too.

Did you notice the boxes on top look like coffins? He also said on his site somewhere that the back windows could be covered up for privacy and that there's a cage that separates the driver from backseat passengers.

Taken individually it's somewhat innocuous, but in this context, those parts ring a little creepy.

[abigail]

Read that before 1ir. So if the GE plates were Erins was BF hoping that someone would see them as he was driving and try to pin her? Well, I thought some plates where from Ohio? The one's on Taylors right? As the off duty police officer that was walking his dog ran into the escort and stopped. Ahhh, I believe those were the Ohio plates and he noticed the registration stickers were from NOVA. Also, Ohio does not have inspections, so that could have been another clue--a VA inspection sticker.

[1inrichmond]

Yes, Abby, the plates on Taylor's car were from Ohio. As far as I know, they were the only Ohio plates. I don't know if they found the GRN ERTH plates as they had been stolen prior to Taylor's disappearance and I don't understand the connection. Also, what happened to the impounded tan Nissan? Does anyone know?

[abigail]

I don't know anything about the Nissan--just "heard" about it as everyone else did.

[absynth_minded]

I was always under the impression that the vans BF owes were called "nowhere vans," because they do not run. That's not to say that something couldn't have happened in the back of it and the details about the damn thing are serial killer creepy.

Also, another thought.

If BF's card was used at a gas station, couldn't they have also caught the person who used the card or the car "that perso"n was using on video? Most stations have cameras today, even if they are just for show.

I say "that person," because as far as I know, no one has come out and said that BF was in New Kent, only that his card was used.

[bull]

Somehow, I have gotten the impression that they found the GRN ERTH tags and I have a guess where they were found, if true.

[Diane]

good point no one has heard anything on the tan car they impounded.I did however read that Jesse has been cleared as that statement came from his lawyer.I just find it hard to belive that an ex-con would use his card for gas as that would likely link him to the crime area but one never knows.As far as the nowhere vans go I read somewhere that he got rid of them a long time ago.

[blues]

ok, bull, I'll "bite" where?

[cosmicmojo]

"Joe: Know you don't like Channel 8 - I don't even check them, Channel 12 has done an excellent job.
Posted by: bull | Oct 11, 2005 5:53:07 PM"
Agreed.
That is why I'm not delving into the credit card possibilities too far, 'cause so far ONLY channel 8 has mentioned them and given no source for the info besides "multiple sources." I question the reliability of the source.

[bull]

Wasn't it shortly after they found Taylor's car that they wanted information about the GRN ERTH tags?

[blues]

>>Posted by: bull | Oct 12, 2005 11:55:52 AM

if you're suggesting that the "grn erth" tags were on TB's car, I heard that the tags found on her car were from Ohio and the number: EP34KW.

I think BF made a huge blunder in not reporting his credit card stolen along with his camera, tripod, and cash. Now, wherever that card was used, he was there.

[absynth_minded]

I just had the displeasure of hearing an interview clip conducted before his arrest that had this wormy little man speaking.

He says that he wouldn't be suprized if Taylor just "disappeared," and he had heard that "she likes mischief." It was also interesting to note his comment about "thinking that her mom is going to find out alot of things about Taylor that she didn't know."

He sounds like such a little weasel and I also detected a trace of both a lisp and a stutter (perhaps the stutter was from NERVOUSNESS?)

[mmy]

As far as getting rid of his credit card, we all know he didn't have two funtioning brain cells to rub together. He could have used cash!!! The boy's his own worst enemy!

[absynth_minded]

Either a dumb criminal with sociopathic tendencies and a mental illness or a perfect frame job.

[bull]

"I heard that the tags found on her car were from Ohio and the number: EP34KW."

My thought is that the GRN ERTH tags were in Taylor's car when it was found. However, I have been proven wrong on the simplest of facts and this is another of my SWAGs.

[Rick]

Folks, it is very likely that LE knows exactly who ALL of the stolen tags belong(ed) to. It's a phone call to the DMV...assuming the tags were issued in the time period for which records are still kept.

[blues]

>>Folks, it is very likely that LE knows exactly who ALL of the stolen tags belong(ed) to. It's a phone call to the DMV...assuming the tags were issued in the time period for which records are still kept.

They have access to the DMV database - they know exactly who the plates are registered to. It's probably the first thing they did.. I don't presume that any sleuthing we do here is news to LE.

[cosmicmojo]

">>Folks, it is very likely that LE knows exactly who ALL of the stolen tags belong(ed) to. It's a phone call to the DMV...assuming the tags were issued in the time period for which records are still kept.
They have access to the DMV database - they know exactly who the plates are registered to. It's probably the first thing they did.. I don't presume that any sleuthing we do here is news to LE.
Posted by: blues | Oct 12, 2005 2:30:52 PM
Agree! Amen! Yes! You got it! Ditto! Bingo!
Could not have said it better myself!
;)

[Rick]

I agree, there's little doubt that LE is not way ahead of our suppositions. In the long run we are just answering our own questions with guesses that may or may not turn out to be true. ANyone heard any news on autopsy results?

[mmy]

No word on autopsy.
Back to the license plate thing, when the news reports came out about the GRN ERTH plates, the LE was requesting that if anyone saw them being used between September 5th and 18th to please call their Tip Line. I think her car was found before then, so the plates might still be out there somewhere.

[1inrichmond]

Yes, they have asked for information on if anyone has seen them. I, myself, was questioning whose they were. I KNOW they already know, but they aren't telling us. I still suspect they are Erin's, and that is why they "talked" with her and she gave info. on Mathews. Me, just speculating again.

[Jackpot]

I AM PRETTY SURE...NOT 100% POSITIVE... BUT I BELIEVE THAT TAYLORS LICENSE PLATE WAS -Virginia plate "JPC 2848"THE "GRN ERTH" TAGS DIDN'T COME INTO PLAY UNTIL AFTER THEY FOUND TAYLORS CAR. WHEN THEY WERE INITIALLY LOOKING FOR HER CAR...I AM "ALMOST" 100% POSITIVE THE PLATE NUMBER THAT THEY GAVE OUT WAS THE NUMBER I LISTED ABOVE.COULD BE WRONG...BUT I DON'T THINK...AS I SAID THAT THE GRN ERTH CAME INTO PLAY UNTIL AFTER HER CAR WAS FOUND.