Taylor Behl Family Member 99.9% Sure Body Is Taylor Behl

Apparently a Behl family member told a newscaster they were 99.9% sure the body found today is that of Taylor Behl. They are reporting a photo taken from the computer of Ben Fawley was shown to another individual who identified the location - an abandoned farmhouse.

Investigators visited early today and smelled the scent of decay in the area prior to discovering a shallow grave. See video here.  More coverage here.

One source close to the investigation said clothing found at the scene is similar to clothing that may have been worn by Behl before she disappeared.

Ben Falwey's lawyer Chris Collins had no comment.

My best thoughts go out to the family tonight, particularly Taylor's Mother, Janet Pelasara and Father, Matt Behl. The family said there will be no statement pending a final identification of the body.

Update: There is no indication that Fawley will even be charged for a crime should this turn out to be Taylor Behl. But I do have information that Fawley was by no means a stranger to the abandoned farm house. Also, his pictures of it had titles which suggested a theme of "home."

I can't say it is even a hunch at this point, but I am finding myself wondering if this will prove to be a multi-gravesite investigation. Also, it is erie and inexplicable that if Fawley is implicated in this, he would keep those photos up. After all, he took the photos of Taylor down almost immediately. Something feels like it isn't adding up, somehow.

Late Update:

Police have said Fawley did not provide enough specifics in his police report to properly investigate the alleged attack. But investigators have found inconsistencies between his report to them and entries describing the attack that he allegedly posted on one of his Web sites.

The entries make reference to a former girlfriend, whom Fawley believes to be behind the attack. Investigative sources said the ex-girlfriend is from Diggs in Mathews County. Her family has property near the location where the human remains were discovered yesterday.

The ex-girlfriend could not be reached for comment. Police would not confirm if she was the woman who had identified the photo that led investigators to Mathews County.

Comments

[Wolfie]

If it's her, I hope that the bastard who killed her dies a long and horrible death.

Any reason why they are 99.9% sure it's her besides the clothing, or is that the only reason?

[BMT]

So very sad. Send your daughter away to college and then lose her to a monster.

[manue]

"Also, it is erie and inexplicable that if Fawley is implicated in this, he would keep those photos up. After all, he took the photos of Taylor down almost immediately. Something feels like it isn't adding up, somehow."

- leave the pictures there, everybody sees them... remove the pictures, they feel you're hiding something; but I still wonder why one would remove pictures if there is nothing to hide; but that does not prove anything...

my 2¢

[Wolfie]

At the point that he did, or for that matter, even now, why bother removing any of the pictures he had on there? If the police wish to dig through the pictures, there are always server-end backups that they can wallow through.

I agree with Dan though..
"Something feels like it isn't adding up, somehow."

Maybe it's just a case of "fact is stranger than fiction", but it seems like something is missing or just isn't right about how all this is going.

[Chris]

He said he removed the pictures of taylor after some local TV stations aired them on the news, using them with a negative attitude towards him

[kin]

If it's true the farmhouse is owned by the parents of a friend (Erin?) of BF and he also has pictures of it then the murder points to him just like it did to Scott Peterson. They didn't need any forensic evidence to arrest and then convict him but I bet LE will have that too.

[Vic]

Here's a pic I put together and it looks like B.F. has explaining to do.

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/976/houseimage9nx.jpg

[Kev]

There are also conflicting reports on the location of the grave......Behind the barn, or in the woods. ....

[Savi]

I don't think things are adding up either. The whole situation is just almost to bizzare. If he went to all the trouble to have planned this you would think that he would take the pictures of the location off the website as well. Yet, if he is that twisted it might have been part of the thrill for him. Just sick! I don't know what to think. I read that the property is owned by a parent of the imfamous Erin. Has anyone heard anything about this or think that maybe she might be involved? It is hard to separate fact from speculation at this point.

[Gail]

Dan you said:
"I'm wondering if Taylor was part of a group that went out to mess with Crabill as pay back of some kind and the thing went wrong? Or maybe just a B&E and someone got shot?"

That or something in that vein would make sense maybe. What has puzzled me greatly was why anyone bothered to change the license plate on her car then park it so close to her place.

Now, what if she and Fawley, with or without an accompanying group had plans to do something "highly illegal" at Erin's place? If they used Taylor's car to go there, he or they could have met ar or near her place. Then it would be very logical that Fawley would replace her real place with one from his collection of stolen plates. That way if anyone saw them, they would be in a car not connected to Fawley and with misleading plates which would be removed as soon as they got back.

After something happened to Taylor, Fawley alone or with any possible group drove back and might have been too strung out and paniced to remember to change the plates back. I think it might have been Fawley alone, because if there were more than one, they would have gotten their own car and followed Fawley in Taylor's car to leave it somewhere farther away. They could never have planned to leave it near her home but with stolen plate still on.

Parked a mile and half away sounds like some guy alone not wanting to be seen in that car near her neighborhood but he has to park near enough to walk back to his own.

Just throwing things around... could Fawley or one of the other possibilities have been using that house or trailer for a meth lab? Or Erin, maybe and Fawley intended to destroy it to get back at her?

(sorry for duplicating the post here, Dan, but I wasn't sure you'd catch the other one and I added the thought about the meth lab)

[1inrichmond]

"Update: There is no indication that Fawley will even be charged for a crime should this turn out to be Taylor Behl. But I do have information that Fawley was by no means a stranger to the abandoned farm house. Also, his pictures of it had titles which suggested a theme of 'home.'"

If it is the picture that says, "Home Sweet Home," BF is not suggesting this is HIS home, but his ex girlfriend, Erin's home. Note the picture beside it--same house different view (I gave you the website before). Look at what he writes. I believe he is talking about Erin.

[Diane]

Gail, Good point as I also think there is more people involved in this besides Fawley.Could be wrong but alot of things do not add up.I have been following this case from the start and really thought Fawley was innocent but from the looks of things he is involved. Why would the dog scent pick up on this Jesse and yet he claims to not know Taylor?? I also read Kevin the skateboaders statement about Taylor telling him she was going to do something highly illegal an early bday present.I too was thinking drugs.I also think of Fawley and a few statements on his journal or photobucket about "white trash".Did he really have a sexual relationship with Taylor or is he covering his tracks because of that fateful night.Correct me if I am wrong but I can find no place where it states they slept together only about being curious.Why would he tell Kevin a perfect stranger he had a sexual relationship with Taylor he just met the guy?? Nothing makes sense at this point. We have a beautiful young girl who had her whole life ahead of her only to be taken by someone for selfish reasons.Yes, we have the law that will prosecute all involved but they will never,never suffer the pain and loss of a child like her parents will. My heart goes out to them.

[Val]

It is Taylor. LE knew it immediately upon locating the grave. Cause of death TBD. That could take a day or two.

[Teresa]

He even told the police they had sex.

[Wolfie]

"Parked a mile and half away sounds like some guy alone not wanting to be seen in that car near her neighborhood but he has to park near enough to walk back to his own." - Gail

Presuming it was BF; where he parked the car was 1 block away from a bus route (GRTC - http://www.ridegrtc.com for more info). It would seem to me that if he did it, he could have gone further out and used the bus to return. I know that it would provide witnesses, but then with how he has been about things, it seems like hiding the truth isn't important. But since making it 'obvious' that it was him, but without witnesses seeing him park it or returning home, it's almost crying that someone else did it so that it would seem reasonable to not have any witnesses. (I hope that all made sense).

For walking home, there are other neighborhoods in the area that he could have parked the car at that wouldn't have been in the fan area but would have made it appear to be more distant from where Behl lived.

Also, why Ohio plates and not Virginia plates? Again with the 'obvious' signs. It's almost too easy with how everything is pointing towards him. Either he did it and is completely stupid on how to cover his tracks, or someone is setting him up something awful.

[Gypzywingz]

I guess we all know there is more to the story than adds up. However, I dont understand about the skateboarding guys who denied knowing her when did one of them say they skated with her on the Saturday night before she was reported missing. My thoughts are that he did know her and had been in her car but was scared to admit that knowing that he/they would of been one of the last people seeing her late at night. I think they are scared kids and afraid. I think they may have done some drugs with her, maybe even that night but I think she when she was done that night skateboarding with them she met Fawley to do the " highly illegal" thing she mentioned earlier.

I also don't believe they went to do something to Erin or where she lived in Matthews. Didn't Erin live in Richmond at the time? Why would they go to Matthews then? Maybe the highly illegal thing would be that BF and her were going to go somewhere off limits to take photo, some place they would be tresspassing, that might explain the camera and tripod being with him and missing. H think they were some place tresspassing taking photos, things may have gotten out of hand physically, maybe they were doing drugs too, maybe he got to rough since he liked S&M and bondage and accidently killed her then in a panic thinking of what to do with her he came up with the idea of disposing the body in a far off place where she wouldn't be found for a long time, if ever (Matthews County)

Just my 2 cents.

[FloridaPatty]

If I have taken anything away from all of this, Natalee to Taylor, it's to hug my daughter more, tell her I love her and be more cognisent of where she is going and who she is spending time with. She is 21.

[James]

What's happening is that people don't care anymore for others. It's that "instant for the moment I've got to have it now" mental attitude. This young lady had her life snatched away by someone who wanted his kicks right then and there. I'm truly perplexed as to what the truth might be and why he killed her. Look at all the young girls who've disappeared lately. The monsters who prey on them. My mind goes blank and numb trying to figure out how someone could harm them.

[anon]

James,

I agree with your comments; if we paid attention at a deeper level to what our friends were doing, this might not happen as much. Can't blame the parents here-all teenagers have "secrets" and make questionalbe decisions. But at college, if my roommate had not returned home, I'd have been on the phone with parents, friends, anyone right away. It's clear we're not going to change the mentalities of the people who hurt women-we've been trying and it seems to get worse. So instead, why can't we teach kids to look out for each other? I'm a grown adult and I still call home when I get into a hotel on a business trip. It's part of being a "tribe" and caring for each others' safety. It makes me crazy with grief to see person after person go missing, usually when they've trusted someone, and when their friends should have said-no way-that's not right.
And it's easy to say this now-not being holier-than-thou. I put myself in hundreds of bad positions in my teens. I guess 15 years later it's easy to say this stuff.
I prayed that if Taylor wsa gone, that they would find her body. Now I am sick with grief all the same.

[Smokey]

Anyone else think that what Kevin told the police doesnt make sense. What 17 year old uses the phrase highly illegal? Taylor wasnt some book nerd either who would talk like that.

Most skater kids would say something along the lines of, Tonite we are going to go do something wild/crazy/out of control (really whatever phrase those kids use over in Va.), but highly illegal? That just doesnt sound right.

[stella cotton]

I personally believe this was pre-meditated by BF and the location of the body(property where he had taken pics of Erin before),Taylors car(practically in his(BF's)backyard),and his kidnapping story are all part of an elaborate conspiracy theory he plans to use as his defense pointing towards his ex Erin and her cronies who supposedly kidnapped him the same night Taylor went missing. He even goes so far as to possibly place himself at the crime scene stating the alleged kidnappers abandoned him on a dirt road?Could this be the same dirt road Taylors body was discovered near? Im sure he's smart enough to realize there could possibly be some physical evidence he may have overlooked that places him there(foot-prints,tire-tread)hence his kidnapping story. Knowing he was there he needs a explanation for being there that doesnt tie him to the murder-he makes himself a victim possibly left there in the dark all part of an elaborate scheme concocted by the real murderer/s his ex and her supposed heavies. His attorney will ask "Why would he leave the body somewhere he knows the police will look due to all the photos of the location on his website?" "And why would he park the car so close to his house?" Practically,bringing the police to his doorstep? That's when the ongoing problems and bitterness between himself and Erin will be injected into the story. Ray Charles could see this defense coming!

[Z]

http://www.livejournal.com/users/skulz67/2005/04/15/

[CosmicMojo]

I don't think it was premeditated. I think the trip to Mathews (one 'T' please) was supposed to be fun, something went wrong, and they/she/he had to quickly cover it up.

[z]

http://www.livejournal.com/users/skulz67/2005/04/17/

[CosmicMojo]

perhaps an overdose?

[Z]

:O This is it!!! http://www.livejournal.com/users/skulz67/92751.html#cutid1 I have dated lots of women, had sex with even more.
This is because I am old. So I was talking to a good friend about shit and I wonder why she is just a friend and not so much more. “B” is very good in bed, fact she is one of the best I have been with and it is just her, due to nothing "learned". What makes her so good is her knack for touch as she just has this way of touch that is extremely sensual. With her talent for touch “B” could get me into bed anytime she wanted. I still have a bit to learn about her, but I will say she is someone I do care about so that helps make it more than just sex. For me sex is something that takes time to get really good, You need to learn what your partner likes for it to get really good. So one I have had sex with recently I can't comment on as I never got a chance to learn what she likes. The time spent with “T” was a lot of fun, and I will treasure that as something very special. I will also harbor the hope that I will get the chance to go there again with her, though I am almost certain that will never be. If I do get that chance again I do have something in mind that I would like to see if she enjoys. “A” and I had sex just three times, the first two were not so great as my mind wasn’t into it. The last time was ok for a quick roll in bed, but I didn’t know her enough to say it was anything great on my part. It was just a quickie and I have a lot to learn about this girl. I was sad that she lied to me, I am not really mad at her, I just don’t like when someone lies to me like she did. However I now wonder what I saw in her as she has changed in a way I don’t like. “J” and I have played around with sex on and off for a while. She and I have a lot of fun, but it is just sex. I do know very well what she likes and while we were having sex we enjoyed quickies and long marathons alike. Yet there is no emotional connection so it will always be just sex, no matter how fun it was. I also know she and I are past, she has moved on and I thank her for the time we did have. “C” and I have played around here and there, again it is just sex as she and I have no intention of it ever being more than just sex. It is fun as we play around trying shit to see what she likes. I am just thinking the last time we were together was the last. “E” I am still learning, for me it was something more. I wonder where it will go, if it will go anywhere more. Part of me wishes it would and last a time, I want more than I think I will be allowed. I am almost certain she may just be someone who is in my life for only a while, I wonder how long that while will be.

[absynth_minded]

If you listen to all of the circumstantial evidence, it doesn't seem like Fawley was soley responsible. IDK, but like many of you are saying, something doesn't add up and this truly may be one of those cases where the truth is stranger than fiction, especially if others are involved.

We basically know jack about the other potential players in this story, but we do know plenty about Ben Fawley.

Fawley exhibits many of the same personality and behavioral traits that other sociopaths do. We already know that he gets off on fire and with his little collection of skulls, you have to wonder whether or not he is gathering them from live animals. We've known from the jump that he is quite fond of images of death and has multiple fetishistic interests. (bondage and little girls being two of many, which in my estimation started because of his insecurities, inadequacies, and need to feel in control. I for one can not picture this scrawny little guy interacting with women his own age.) I also have to wonder if little Benny was a late bed-wetter, which would complete the textbook behavioral triad implications.

We know from his weblogs and sites that BF has a rather high opinion of himself, fancies himself as a sophisticated thinker and philosopher, and is quick to play the victim whenever he feels misunderstood or persecuted. For the most part, he feels that he is above everyone else and they are not worth his time. In particular he becomes really upset when he finally allows himself to trust someone and that person betrays his trust (this is most likely deep seeded in his feeling of past abandonment and rejection, the same feelings many adopted people feel.)

Speaking of abandonment, the fact that he was adopted is another big ugly red flag. Not saying adopted kids are the spawns of Satan, just that this can indeed work in concert with his other noted "issues." (I want to stay away from his documented case of mental illness, because many people already have it in their heads that having a chemical imbalance makes you more likely to be a killer. Same could be said of the fact that he exhibits certain signs of obsessive compulsive disorder.)

It's only natural that an adopted kid would become an introverted adult. It's not a shocker that he would choose to find himself through various mediums of art, either, as most artists do like to keep to themselves. What I've found curious from day one is the the progression of his "art."
He started with sculpture and painting, but later moved on to photography. The first two require very little interaction or interpersonal skills and the same can be said of his photography when kept to the confines of his urban decay, landscapes, and inanimate objects.

HOWEVER, moving on to live models is a whole 'nother animal, altogether..... To me this speaks volumes for an intrapersonal evolution. You have to wonder if the fetishistic scuptures and paintings of images of death and decay were enough to quell the growing urges living inside of BF? Whether these very things were enough to satiate the fantasies he may have had?

I can't shake the feeling that Ben was about to take an even darker and more sinister turn, that's if he hadn't already.

Was Ben looking too start a "skull" collection of his very own????

The tough is chilling, but as I always say, crazier things have happened.

[New Creature]

Did Taylor have a boyfriend who may have been upset due to Taylor and Ben's "no strings attached" relationship? Someone Erin may have gone to to say "hey, do you know what baby-girl is doing?" Thereby enlisting more power to the plan. I'm not saying someone intended to KILL Taylor, but maybe beat the daylights out of her. Maybe the "abduction" story is legit. Maybe Ben and Taylor were both abducted, and Erin took some frustrations out on Taylor...and something went wrong. Oh, and now...everyone is an accompliss!!! "If you tell, I'll say you did it". Know what I mean? Someone who had an extended intimate relationship with Ben, and who hated him, could get a pile of people on his or her side and make it look like he did it. I mean, after-all...Ben looks guilty without any disappearing teens! And not just because he's "Goth". He's 38 for cryin' out loud!!!! Hangin around with teenagers, and photographing skulls and soft porn. Yikes!!!

I agree with Dan. Something isn't adding up.

Taylor's body will tell the tale.

Our prayers should be that the real murderer is found---and hard, factual evidence come to light so that there is no mistake.

I always thought it was interesting that axes, and shovels, etc...were found outisde his home in the garbage. Wanna bet they are those used in the disposal of Taylor's body? And exactly how hard would it be for someone other than Ben to put those items outside HIS home???

[Z]

I found the deleted comment he must have forgotten that he had posted it more than once. It seems he may have did something sexual with Taylor. "T" is what he refers her by.... to me it's pretty obvious it's her if you go back and check out his old LJ entries. What a sicko..

[n_obs]

Just an FYI on BF's live journal entry about

"I need someone who would like to play Goth/fetish dress up for some photos for use on the web page, nothing “bad”, just fun. The photos will be taken outside @ Hollywood as sort of a silly Goth" ...

Hollywood is Hollywood Cemetary : http://www.historicrichmond.com/hollywood.html

[MarlboroGal]

Whether Fawley had anything to do with a murder or not, he's one sick, messed up dude.

stella cotton says: "Ray Charles could see this defense coming!"

Good one!

[CosmicMojo]

I think the opposite of a lot of the recent posters here: I think it's a lot more simple than some are thinking.

HUGH mistake, scramble to cover it up.

[Gypzywingz]

I just got off the phone at work and there is a man that works here that lives 2 miles from the crime scene. I am a bit confused but he said that the surrounding property is owned by a man by the last name of Bing. He said that little shack they show he thought no one lived there and the area was used for a dumping ground and someone would of had to know the area as people are saying. So if I believe right that the farm they are showing is NOT owned by the Crabills. I will try to get some more info.

[Wolfie]

(Long reply, get something to snack on...)

“He even goes so far as to possibly place himself at the crime scene stating the alleged kidnappers abandoned him on a dirt road?Could this be the same dirt road Taylors body was discovered near? Im sure he's smart enough to realize there could possibly be some physical evidence he may have overlooked that places him there(foot-prints,tire-tread)hence his kidnapping story. Knowing he was there he needs a explanation for being there that doesnt tie him to the murder-he makes himself a victim possibly left there in the dark all part of an elaborate scheme concocted by the real murderer/s his ex and her supposed heavies.” - stella

He also said he didn't know where he was. If he tries to now say that it was the dirt road that he was left at, then how could he not recognize where he was? What I find odd about his claims of being attacked is that he didn't find out (from his savior) where he was at.

“I personally believe this was pre-meditated by BF and the location of the body(property where he had taken pics of Erin before),Taylors car(practically in his(BF's)backyard),and his kidnapping story are all part of an elaborate conspiracy theory he plans to use as his defense pointing towards his ex Erin and her cronies who supposedly kidnapped him the same night Taylor went missing.” - stella

That would make a lot of sense out of the whole mess. What better way to put doubt into peoples minds than to make it look too obvious that it was him? However, anyone with common sense would realize that the best way to try to avoid becoming a suspect is to not draw attention to yourself. Once you've placed yourself in the police's radar, you're going to be examined. If his plan was to make it look like he's being set up, then he already messed up his plan by making that plan.

“Anyone else think that what Kevin told the police doesnt make sense. What 17 year old uses the phrase highly illegal? Taylor wasnt some book nerd either who would talk like that.” - Smokey

Was that a direct quote, or a rephrasing of what she said? Being that VCU is one of the more popular colleges (academically speaking), I wouldn't find it hard to believe for her to say “highly illegal”, however she could have said something less direct but her friend put it into plain english what she meant, and that could be the quote that's getting tossed around.

Looking at it all, could it be that BF did do it; gave her the impression that they would do something ‘highly illegal’ that she would enjoy, but really the ‘highly illegal’ thing was her murder? I hate to say it, but could it be that maybe she knew what he was going to do and somehow, in her brainwashed mind, she went along with it? It's illegal to commit murder, and suicide is in fact murder, just the victim and the murderer are the same person.

“Did Taylor have a boyfriend who may have been upset due to Taylor and Ben's "no strings attached" relationship?” - New Creature

Here's another twist on what you said... What if her boyfriend found out about the relationship, wanted to have BF taught a lesson, thus BF got beat up, BUT happened shortly after BF had killed TB (unknown to the boyfriend), but the reason that BF didn't immediately report the abduction was his covering up his own tracks? Would certainly make sense while keeping his claim of abduction honest.

“I always thought it was interesting that axes, and shovels, etc...were found outisde his home in the garbage. Wanna bet they are those used in the disposal of Taylor's body? And exactly how hard would it be for someone other than Ben to put those items outside HIS home???” - New Creature

It is amazing that everything that is found that points to him seems to have no direct and undeniable link to him. It's easy enough to plant evidence that points to him from the outside, but more difficult to plant it inside.

Speaking of which, have TB's license plates ever been found? (I've tried to keep up but if I missed out on this, please tell me). Among BF's plate collection, were hers in there? If so, wouldn't it paint a disturbing picture that maybe he collects license plates of his victims? Perhaps only those he has killed make it into a special collection...?

“I think the opposite of a lot of the recent posters here: I think it's a lot more simple than some are thinking.” - CosmicMojo

One would hope, but consider something.. Even for a scrambled cover up, why bury the body somewhere that you can be associated with? Why not somewhere else that might take longer to discover instead? He could have taken her right down the street, tossed her body onto the railroad tracks and had a better chance of making it appear that she tripped somewhere and ‘fell’ victim to clumsiness.

Having photos of her grave location, the stolen plates, announcing that he had sexual relations with her, saying he was one of the last people to have seen her, etc, is just crying for people to examine him more closely and to dig up the facts of his crime. It's more like a “dig up” than a “cover up”.

[Brian]

The timeline between when TB was last seen and when BF reported his assult, how long was this?

Would it give BF enough time to drive 70 miles, kill TB, dig a grave, drive 70 miles back to Richmond?

I don't see this adding up from a timing standpoint.

[Sweetie]

Here's a pic I put together and it looks like B.F. has explaining to do.

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/976/houseimage9nx.jpg
I would say so, that IS the same place.

[Wolfie]

Brian,

If someone wants to, from Richmond, they can reach Virginia Beach in under 2 hours. Let's say it takes 2 hours to reach the grave site as well (to get to that general area is a bit harder since there's no direct route).

10:30PM, add in 4 hours, is 2:30AM. Consider when he claimed to have gotten attacked, that's plenty of time to: kill her, load her into a vehicle, drive there, dig a shallow grave & plop her in and then to drive back. Heck, let's say he really was attacked (5am right?), he still had plenty of time.

[Brian]

Wolfie:

When did he report the alleged "attack"?

Other questions:
* Was BFs child porn just young girls?
* Do we know if BF made the child porn himself?
* Was BF bisexual?
* Was BF being treated for his bi-polar disorder?
* What do we know about BF and drugs?

Brian

[U.S.Marine]

Vic, nice job, bud - one of the most concrete things I've seen so far (a pic is worth a thousand words). It absolutely connects BF with that property. I had seen that photo in his gallery and tried to find its likeness in the news photos but with no success.

"Here's a pic I put together and it looks like B.F. has explaining to do."
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/976/houseimage9nx.jpg

[gypzywingz@yahoo.com]

Does anyone know the exact address of the property in Mathews? I know someone that may be able to find out exactly who the property belongs to.

There is plenty of time to get from Richmond to Mathews and back. Especially if you have driven the route and rumor has he made a stop in West Point on the way. Remember he said he was abducted in the a.m. but are there any witnesses placing him at the time he arrived back home?? He went ti LE about 4pm, where was he before that? Pleanty of time!

[cosmicmojo]

Thanks for the snack hint Wolfie.
:)

Criminals do stupid things in their desperation. In that "oh my god, what did I do?" moment, people are not thinking straight, especially one so unstable, immature, etc. Especially true in a crime of passion (uncontrollable emotional response). Or if it was an unintended drug overdose.

There was time to drive to Mathews and back because it's about a 1 to 1 1/2 hour drive (one way), which could be done between 11pm and 6am. Plus, we have only Fawley's word that he got back to Richmond at 6am. I don't think he actually saw anyone else til much later in the afternoon.

Whoever realized they needed to cover something up acted in desperation without thinking through the long-term sequence of events that were likely to occur. I don't think Fawley is capable of some of the really complex strategic thinking that's been speculated here.

[bull]

Ben Fawley - Bi-Polar or Lazy

Much has been made of the fact that BF is bi-polar, aka manic-depressive. However, one has to wonder if he really fits the profile or is just using this as a way to live on the government dole. From what I've read BF does have many of the manic traits, but in looking through his writings I fail to see much evidence of depression. It is well known that the easiest way to get SSI disability is to go the mental route, and don't think for a second Fawley wouldn't know this. Not only does he get paid but he also gets drugs, which provide more income or recreation. I don't know the guy, but my guess is that this guy thinks he can do whatever he wants and because of his superior intelligence can get away with it. After all, he is 38 years old, doesn't appear to have worked a lot and can sleep all day and play on computers, etc all night. This guy has used the system.

Sorry, if this has no context with other posts - but I am somewhat tired of hearing about poor bi-polar Ben.

[Wolfie]

"When did he report the alleged "attack"?

Other questions:
* Was BFs child porn just young girls?
* Do we know if BF made the child porn himself?
* Was BF bisexual?
* Was BF being treated for his bi-polar disorder?
* What do we know about BF and drugs?" - Brian

As someone just answered, he reported it in the PM. Roughly 12 hours after he was attacked.

All I can recall about what was said about the child porn was that it consisted of kids as young as 1 (yes, a 1 yr old). I don't know if he made it himself, although I got the impression that he had something to do with it other than just having it. I get a feeling that BF isn't bisexual, but gets thrills from girls being bisexual, especially if it includes him. As for the last 2, I have no idea. I only know this area since I live in it, and if BF did kill her and buried her there, then he's either a total idiot or really screwed up in the head (beyond the obvious so far).

"It absolutely connects BF with that property." - U.S.Marine

It was said on the news that BF is associated with the property, so that's already been established and verified. The reason they found it was because of his photos and an ex-gf (of his?) telling the police where the house is located.

[wondering]

I am not familiar with Gothic. How does that--or does it--fit in with this. Is it simply a way of dress? or does it encompass more, such as an ideology.

[New Creature]

Wondering- Basically just style-culture. In the 80's and early 90's, it was a vein out of the "punk" scene, but without the politicizing.

[absynth_minded]

Few things-

Ben also may have attempted to explain away and DNA, by saying he had sex with her that night.

Ben's bi-polarism isn't a direct cause of any actions he could have taken, but coupled with other issues could have impacted his decision.

Goth is a subculture/lifestyle. My personal experience with individuals of this type is that they are simply looking for a place to fit in, searching desperately for someone who will "understand" them. (yes, with teens this often is "depressive" in nature.)

It's highly possible that he is dealing with some sexual identity problems, which could lead to violence towards women or treating them as objects. (also could mean that feelings of abandonment and rejection could set him off, in a MAJOR way.)

We know from his own words that "T," lied to him and betrayed his trust. Wonder if this has anything to do with disclosure of her past sexual experience/inexperience?

Guys like this get off on being first... If he wasn't hers, but was told he was.. well............

[absynth_minded]

Oooops..

*ANY DNA

[bull]

Ben - supposedly goth??

From Cino's livejournal:

"If I said that *everybody* was accusing Ben of guilt because of the supposedly gothic (I say supposedly because goth really means many things, and the fact that the stereotype has come to be the definition is sad--did you know that it also refers to architecture?) aspects of his personality, I was exaggerating."

Forget about "being Goth" having anything to do with this. From this it appears that Cino realizes that the "supposedly Gothic" bit is just another Fawley charade. One would imagine that Ben is a joke in the Richmond area - a bad one.

[absynth_minded]

Ben being "Goth" is a prime example of his looking for a place to fit in. I remember reading his old OneModelPlace profile in particular (though he did write the same on other blogs/sites/profiles)about the numerous "Goth" clothing items he owned. He listed them by both number and type. This screams POSER. It's almost like he was trying to earn his "Goth" stripes and seek approval.

"Hey guys, look at me, look how Goth I am! Please like me...."

[KT]

Any information about the link with the Ohio License plate? I know you had mention awhile ago about a girl in June who had gone missing around Columbus, Ohio (a student)and her body was later found. Has there been any link? Has there been any information anywhere about the Ohio License plate came from?