h/t Pundita from a televised report:
Two reports aired on ABC-7, Wash, DC station WJLA during the 11:00 PM broadcast.
Loosely transcribed: "ABC-7 has obtained court records pertaining to Ben Fawley's assault on a former girlfriend."
Former girlfriend Jessica Paxon spoke with ABC-7. She told a reporter that she moved in with Fawley when she was 19. He boasted of his "criminal past." She stated that he could become violent in a flash. Evidently one time they had an argument and Fawley became threatening, she fled to her car and he came after her with what may have been a car jack. She did manage to get away.
According to another girlfriend, in 2003 during an argument Fawley tried to strangle her. "He put his hands around my throat and I couldn't breathe."
Also - An attendant at a Kent County gas station saw Ben Fawley buying gas and driving a car that matches the description of Taylor Behl's car. Kent County is between Richmond and Mathews County, near where Taylor Behl's body was found.


Is anyone really surprised?
Posted by: RJ | Thursday, October 13, 2005 at 11:58 PM
The attendant said Ben was alone, that pretty much extinguishes the "frame" flame.
Posted by: ME | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 12:12 AM
WOW ..It is good they have the right guy..
What a prick..
Posted by: edward | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 12:24 AM
I hope the Kent attendant really did see him and isn't just saying he did because of a credit card receipt and the overwhelming evidence. It would be sweet if there's a video at the Kent gas station of Fawley. That would seal the deal.
Universally... I think that guys who get violent with girlfriends ought to have the crap beaten out of them so they learn a lesson.
I feel for Taylor's family...
Posted by: terret | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 12:33 AM
Its a very sad thing that back in Feb. when Taylors friend introduced her to Fawley that he was able to take advantage of her then and weave her into his tangled web. She was so young and vunerable. I think from that point because of her looking like his girlfriend that had broken up with him he turned to Taylor as his next victom. He because obsessed with her and wanted her for his own. She was not really interested in him that much as he did not like that when she started school knowing she was skateboarding with other people she had met and having dinner with new friends and so forth. It was another rejection for him and he was so obsessed with her and because she was not really interested in him she made a mistake back in February when he told her how pretty she was and took pictures of her and told her she could be a model. I am sure she was flattered. He felt like she betrayed him. Guess he figured if he could not have her then no one else would. When she left to go skateboarding with her new friends she was stalking her and took her that night. What he did to her and how she died may not be known. Maybe he will confess. He took her car and her and drove her there. He brought her car back and changed tags and parked it on thsat street near her other friends house to try and set up someone else doing this to her. His mental state is really screwed. All his actions and lies about being kidnapped just did not work. He did it all. Hope he burns in hell. The scumbag creep !!
This is so upsetting. Her birthday was today. She was just 18. What a waste of a beautiful life to come. She was stil learning about life and was so vunerable. I feel so sad for her mom and dad. Just like Natalee. Another life wasted by a scumbag.
Posted by: ! | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 12:34 AM
We may get some kind of confession out of Benny boy sometime soon, or at least another one of his stories. According to Timesdispatch.com he has started talking to LE against the advice of his attorney.
Posted by: #7 | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 12:42 AM
Link to Times Dispatch story about Fawley talking http://www.timesdispatch.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=RTD/MGArticle/RTD_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1128767535968
Think he's giving it up or has had time to modify his story? Probably modification. Collins objects to modification because it makes Ben even harder to defend. More swiss cheese.
Posted by: bull | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 01:27 AM
ME said: "The attendant said Ben was alone, that pretty much extinguishes the "frame" flame."
I am wary of giving credibility to hearsay of this nature from 'potential' witnesses, for if there was ever a case where LE would be relying on back-up from witnesses who do not personally know Fawley, this would be one of them, because, to date, from what information has been made public, they have very little in the way of physical evidence to tie him to Taylor behl's murder.
And even if the attendant's comment is substantiated, all that it means is that at some point in time, Fawley was alone driving Taylor's car.
When? On the way to or from Mathews? The 'Frame theory' could still hold some weight if Fawley was driving the vehicle out of Mathews back to Richmond.
There could be any number of reasons why Taylor, when still safe, could have permitted Fawley to drive her car to top it up with gas.
With every answer people think they have found, another question arises.
All the more reason not to take a mere snippet of information released via the media or LE, and assume that a piece of this most complex puzzle has been solved.
Posted by: error404 | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 02:00 AM
Correction to useage of the word 'murder' in my above comment: Substitute with the word 'death' - because even the cause of death to date, has still not been ascertained.
Posted by: error404 | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 02:07 AM
O.K, maybe it's just me but I can't remember the car next to me at the gas station yesterday let alone one next to me last month! The white Ford is a pretty ordinary car. What makes it so memorable that a month later you can be so sure it was THE car?
Posted by: majyk | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 08:50 AM
Who knows how credible the witness is? Will be a matter of further investigation.
Posted by: mmy | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 08:57 AM
Not only cause of death, but time of death has not been ascertained, at least to our knowledge.
Posted by: mmy | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 08:59 AM
Is crimelibrary very reliable? Because lastnight I was reading one article that said drug overdose could be ruled out, but then another article that seemed more recent said strangulation, blunt force trauma, etc. were ruled out, but toxicology results will determine drug overdose, which cannot be ruled out at this time.
Posted by: p | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 09:20 AM
Blunt force trauma definately could be ruled out if her skull was completely in tact (no fractures).
I really don't think they could rule out strangulation (if there were no broken or fractured bones in her neck) or asphyxia with only largely skeletal remains to examine, but I'm not a coroner.
Posted by: anon 2 | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 09:48 AM
This can be called a murder, Chief Monroe said along the lines of "she couldn't have done this to herself." If Taylor, died by accident - call the authorities and tell them an accident happened. Which would you rather do, not being bi-polar, explain an accident and have to go through that type of investigation or go through a murder investigation?
Posted by: bull | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 10:16 AM
i may have missed something but why is fawley a felon? what did he do?
and wasnt there a report somewhere that she was dismembered?
i cant believe anyone would do this to a 17 year old girl. her family and friends are in my prayers.
Posted by: K | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 11:38 AM
Fawley served 3 years in prison (not jail) for auto theft.
The report was probably misinterpreted or hyped (I hope and I think). The original words were probably "scattered remains."
Posted by: anon 2 | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 11:52 AM
Is crimelibrary very reliable? Because lastnight I was reading one article that said drug overdose could be ruled out, but then another article that seemed more recent said strangulation, blunt force trauma, etc. were ruled out, but toxicology results will determine drug overdose, which cannot be ruled out at this time.
Posted by: p | Oct 14, 2005 9:20:06 AM
Are you sure that didn't come from what I wrote on one of the threads? (about strangulation/blunt force being ruled out.)
I basically just applied medical knowledge (I was a Navy Corpsman) with common sense. Taylors bones would have shown many signs of stress (or worse) if any of these were her C.O.D.
Also, the attendant's word should not be taken as the gospel. He/she could even be covering for the fact that they took BF's credit card without asking for an I.D. (though I am inclined to think that it WAS BF and he is as guilty as Hell is hot.)
Posted by: absynth_minded | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 11:58 AM
I've never been to a gas station that I know of that does not have security cameras pointing at the cash register, cashier, and by the pumps. That is what they need to find.
Posted by: Sweetie | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 12:28 PM
Well of course it is true that anyone is innocent until proven guilty - but all too often in our society today, we tend to disregard the obvious. NO MATTER WHAT, if Taylor's death was by chance an accident - bi-polar or whatever condition he has or had - would it not be better to tell the honest truth first off instead of panic - making up some nonsense that you say "you really cannot remember the details." Which by the way makes you look more guilty anyway.
Posted by: Krahs | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 12:30 PM
Krahs, You're absolutely right about the truth being the best path to take. But then, you are probably a rational thinking, honest individual who does not blame everyone else in the world for what happens to you.
Posted by: Rick | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 12:34 PM
Even if they had security cameras at the register, they are mainly focused on the cashier. Who are the biggest thiefs in convenience stores? If they tape, they probably don't keep the tapes long because of space issues. If nothing of note happens, they probably throw the tape back in the next day.
We know Fawley was there, because of the CC and Rick, the attendant's important statement is that Fawley was by himself. If I'm on a jury, don't even waste time putting him on the stand.
Posted by: bull | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 12:39 PM
I think that even with skeletal remains that are years old, they can determine cause of death. They can call in a forensic anthropologist (don't know if I got that term right). Most likely, it's just going to be a matter of waiting. Sooner or later they will figure it out.
Posted by: mmy | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 12:50 PM
Bull, I get the feeling that if you were on a jury two weeks before anyone heard of this case and this guy walked past the courthouse. You would jump out a window and hang him from a flag pole.
Posted by: Rick | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 12:51 PM
Did the cashier look inside the car or just see BF when he came inside to pay? Someone could have been in the backseat, lying down or in the trunk of the car. Also, the car might not have been the one that belonged to Taylor. Did he see BF get into the driver's seat? Maybe Hispanic man stepped into the restroom or to get a breath of fresh air. Too many questions remain.
Posted by: mmy | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 12:57 PM
Rick:
I was saying don't put the attendant on the stand. As for Fawley, I was rooting for him in the beginning - have always liked rebels with, or without, a cause. But, after his many tales and how neatly everything works to prove innocence in Ben's world, he looks worse everyday from my point of view. This is all circumstantial at this point and LE will have to fill in many blanks to get a conviction.
Posted by: bull | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 01:09 PM
Bull, I misunderstood you. I'm moving into the "Ben did it" camp slowly but surely. Based on mounting evidence. The kidnapping story mostly. I will still need a confession or COD to accept cold blooded murder over a stupid accident though. For the record. I do think the punk is a sleeze on many levels. I'm just not convinced he set out to murder anyone.
Posted by: Rick | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 01:14 PM
MMy, cause of death can't aways be determined by sketetal remains.
Couple examples: Drowning doesn't affect the bones. Death by hemmoraging in childbirth or by a stab wound or other injury in which the bones were not nicked or cut. Hair doesn't break down. So if there is hair, poison traces can show up if the poison is traceable. Strangluation or asphyxiation don't neccesarily affect bones (asphyxiation would not.) Cardiac arrest doesn't affect the bones. Cardiac arrest either by natural causes or a drug overdose couldn't be determined from skeketal remains alone. Any kind of organ failure: soft tissue is gone. Hell, appendicitus, you wouldn't know with sketeltal remains only.
If there are only skeletal remains; you have bones, teeth; hair; nails; and I guess cartilege. Heck, carbon monoxide poisoning. People who aren't murdered; don't do drugs and seem healthy just drop dead sometimes and sometimes people never figure out why.
Embellism (blood clot): all soft tissue evidence gone.
But I think there was some amount of Taylor's soft tissue left.
Posted by: anon 2 | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 01:19 PM
Well Rick - in answer to your earlier reply to me (about being rational) - yeah, most of the time I try to be - however, I would disagree with you as we are all human beings. And I think it safe to say at one time or another -- we all have let our thoughts and/or imagines run wild. With that being the case, have we not all at one time did or said something that we would love to take back afterwards. Well with regards to anyone rational or not on the planet for 38 years, he had to be sick enough to do this thing. Number 1 ANYONE who can get "turned on" by an adult having sex with a child (even as young as 1 year old) -- OK - that right there constitutes him being locked up or 'chopped off' for the rest of his days. His history with other women, NOT GOOD AT ALL. Again it doesn't even matter what kind of criminal past one has, there is certainly room enough for change for ANYONE. But again - look at Charlie Manson - STILL A WHACK JOB - worse than ever. I say the same holds true for Fawley - he just got worse and worse as time went on. If he REALLY TRULY HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH HER DEATH, JUST COME CLEAN - even more so just thinking about your past.
Posted by: Krahs | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 01:21 PM
I'm just not convinced he set out to murder anyone.
Doesn't matter, she is still dead. That only matters in the sentencing stage of a trial.
Posted by: Sweetie | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 01:23 PM
Ben has been a system guy long enough to know the best way to go, even if he is bi-polar. If it was an accident, he would have turned it in right away. Something was there that kept him from turning it in as an accident, which would have been much easier to prove or disprove on September 5. Accidental killing, I can go along with that.
Posted by: bull | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 01:30 PM
anon 2: If someone has a chronic medical condition, it often affects the growth and composition of the bones. Poisoning might also show in the bone. In fact, IV fluids can be administered to a patient by access through bone as opposed to the conventional means; there is a lot of information to be gained from within the bone.
I saw a show on Discovery Channel about a foresnic anthropologist from Quebec, I think. She is one of a handful in the States/Canada. She told of being flown to different places in the world to identify cause of death of skeletal remains, some centuries old. She had tesified in court in murder cases. So the possiblity of learning things from the remains is greater than we realize.
Posted by: mmy | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 01:32 PM
"Strangluation or asphyxiation don't neccesarily affect bones (asphyxiation would not.)"
In some case, but in garden variety manual strangulation the hyoid bone is usually fractured (hyoid = little "u" shaped bone in throat that isn't attached to any other bone.)
Also, the weight and pressure needed to strangle a full grown adult will often fracture other bones....
Posted by: absynth_minded | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 01:38 PM
The ME is probably doing a chemical analysis of the bones. Molecular changes can be determined using gas chromatography, mass spectroscopy, etc. I wonder (thinking out loud) if hypoxia can be determined from skeletal remains? Bones are living organs-makes sense to me that that they would show chemical changes due to lack of oxygen, that leave traces like rings on a tree. Often malnutrition (and the diseases that come with it) can be determined from the ratios in the bones of calcium, hydroxyapetite, vitamins, cytokines, etc. If I were the ME I'd have a damn good analytical chemist on board running those ratios. If lack of oxygen affects bones-they'll find it.
This is all SWAG, but based on good scientific reasoning.
Cosmic mojo would appreciate this path of linear reasoning...:)))
Posted by: Midwest anon | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 03:38 PM
With all due respect to the bloggers who here seem hestitant to assess responsibilty for the crime to Frawley, (Yes, crime. Ms. Behl did not drive herself to Diggs, kill herself, wrap herself in plastic and bury herself, then "wish" her car back to Richmond) or make excuses for a wackjob predator, (one post went to so far as to retract the statement "murder" and instead insert "death" because "we are not sure" why she died.) ---Kindly let me submit that teenagers die of natural causes all the time. We find them buried in shallow graves everyday.
Do we really need a trip to the woodshed to wake up?
It certainly IS in error to suggest this 38-year-old did NOT entrap young women and instead is intellectually a teenager himself. This ?is? a bi-polar (or borderline depending on what blog one reads) who decided he didn't want to work anymore and was living on disability and whatever the teens he targeted could provide. Sly as a fox, that one. Selling pictures, whatever he could lay his hands on. Bi-polar, huh? Only we don't know WHO did the diagnosing, or what their qualifications are. But if it says so in the press (and his attorney says so), it MUST be true! Oh, I can hear it now..."It wasn't my fault! I was off my meds!!!!" will be the defense rallying cry. I suppose Mr. Frawley is the real victim here. Someone forced him to download kiddie porn on his computer, right? Never mind what harm that crime alone will cause to his family. Or what that says about his character. Sad, poor Ben. And then we see he has a penchant for teenagers. He lives blocks away from a college campus, by choice of course. Bears who love salmon don't live far from the stream. Then he allies himself with younger guys who help "make the hookups happen." I suppose this is a coincidence as well. Didn't Charles Manson use women in the family to attact new male recruits? Hmmmm.
Naaah. Ben would never do anything like that. He would never take advantage of someone who has low self-esteem. He's too nice a guy. He's so nice, that after Taylor disappeared, he was blogging over LJ 24-7 begging everyone he knew, "please help me find my friend Taylor!" He was so distraught, he didn't even remember what planet the aliens who abducted him came from. I'm sure he didn't. Because I think he was so worried about what he left at Sheppard Street he broke in twice looking for it. Was it the camera, Ben? Negatives? A cell phone? College I.D.? It wasn't in the trunk, was it, so you had to go back. Damn I hate when that happens. But hopefully you found what you were looking for.
What a sad, sad story this is. At it's core, it's a story of betrayal. We'll never know what really happened to this beautiful kid with the dazzling smile. I'll bet that smile could light up a room like a Christmas tree!
The perps are never going to tell the truth. Her poor mother, is all I can say. To have your worst nightmare come true...at the hands of some nobody, who was never going anywere...
There's this scene in the movie Casablanca that I love. Ingrid Bergman's character, who is married, wants to have an affair with another man, played by Humphrey Bogart. Bergman is distraught. She's physically attracted to Bogart and she's very confused. To the point of tears. She doesn't know what to do. At last, she gives up and she says to Bogart, "you are going to have to think for both of us, for all of us," to which he agrees. See, he's attracted to her too. Desperately. But he does the right thing. Even though it hurts like hell and it may never stop hurting, he sends her off with her husband.
Wouldn't it have been nice if old Ben would have done the right thing at the beginning...loved Taylor Marie as he should have, like a daughter-- tried to boost her self-esteem, steered her away from his bed and instead into the world feeling a little bit better than she did the moment before? Good God, why is that so much to ask for?
And that's the betrayal that cuts deepest. As adults, we're supposed to set the example, be the guiding light, to be the rock that is always steady. In her heart of hearts, that's what she was looking for. What he gave her instead I wish with all my heart we could somehow take back. I'm ashamed that that kid in her last seconds on this Earth felt nothing but betrayal and fear. God help us. When will we ever learn the lesson of compassion? When?
Posted by: Bob | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 03:58 PM
Ah, not unlike the compassion you're showing for Ben?
Posted by: Rick | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 04:23 PM
Ben is still among the world of the living. And he is being treated with the utmost compassion as far as I can tell. Have you other information?
Posted by: Bob | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 04:25 PM
With all due respect, Bob, it is guilty until proven innocent. Thus far, police have done (or shown) very little to prove that Fawley is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Even further, we can't be sure that if he is guilty, he indeed, acted alone. Police are holding their cards close to their vest for a reason. Perhaps alot of what we've heard is nothing but bluffing.
Ask yourself, why else would they ring him up on as many charges as they can find? Answer: Signs are pointing to the kiddie porn not being his. I sincerely doubt they would shine light on the fact that this convicted felon should have been off of the streets before September 5th even rolled around, and that they dropped the ball by just now filing charges based on an AUGUST firearm possession.
I am not championing Ben and I personally think that he is at the very least involved. Hell, I even took the time to write up a profile on the guy and all signs pont towards him being a stone-cold sociopath.
Just remember, things are never as simple as they may seem.
Posted by: absynth_minded | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 04:36 PM
Bob, Took a minute, but I got htrough that post. Excellent, people who believe that Ben had nothing to do woith Taylor's demise, have issues, that can not be resolved here. Ben is scary, and as a parent, the exact type of person you warn your kids about.
Posted by: ME | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 04:45 PM
Well Bob I can safely say I ABSOLUTELY LOVE WHAT YOU WROTE (I said that shouting). How Very True.
It is completely sad that we have what appears to be a seemingly intelligent society - and yet when it comes to the OBVIOUS, everybody wants to marshmallow about it. Reading another poster I believe it was Dan Huff who describes BF as a psychopathe. And he describes this type of person - him, Scott Peterson, and individuals that follow those patterns as 'people with no cores.' Very accurate. I once had the displeasure of knowing a Dr. Jeykl & Mr. Hyde type in my own life. All I can say this day is THANK GOD I am here to talk about. And for all intents and purposes - all of the educated people I was friends with and family members, EVERYONE that met this party thought the world of same. Well it ended up this party fooled everyone. Blamed everyone - SOUND FAMILIAR?????
Posted by: Krahs | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 04:54 PM
Bob,
Your post is dead on. It is all about trusting when we're most vulnerable, when we most need somebody to help us.... poor Taylor, almost misunderstood Taylor, sad Taylor, looking for new friends in a new city. Whether Ben Fawley or some other sicko did it, the plain truth is that someone took advantage of her naivete and trusting nature. It is tragic to me that we can talk about our needs and sadness and loneliness with perfect strangers online and to near strangers around college campuses, yet our own sisters brothers and mothers and fathers can be in the very next room, oblivious to what is going on in our lives. I appreciate your taking the time to put down in words what many of us are feeling, and to say it so eloquently.
Zelda,
Richmond, VA
VCU graduate, 1977
Posted by: Zelda | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 05:09 PM
He's admitted to "Something happening during rough sex."
http://www.nbc4.com/news/5100528/detail.html
Posted by: absynth_minded | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 05:41 PM
Thanks for your kind words and your observations. I'm sure that some I've offended, but it does seem strange to me that so many here are inadvertantly defending old Benny, or at the very least, looking, searching, clinging---perhaps it is hoping against hope--that he didn't do this. It's natural. To those people I say your friend is still alive. Not a hair on his head has been harmed to my knowledge, and I don't advocate such either. It wouldn't do any good.
I can't say strongly enough that he was the adult here. He was the one, it was his responsibility, he who should have taken the high road. When Taylor showed up naked with beer, he was the one who should have gently put a coat on her, talked to her, said whatever he could (said he was gay if that would have diffused the situation), and later do whatever he could to contact her family to make them aware of what was happening, so that they could take steps to help this troubled kid. Her mother loved her and would have intervened immediately. Ben could have been Taylor's angel. But that didn't happen. That is a fact. 17 is a hard age. She was lonely, and i think a strong male figure was always missing in her life. Does Ben have a daughter? Believe me i know a lot of teens who aren't close to their fathers. Where Taylor was left to rot, tossed like garbage, says it all. He knew the place. He knew. A needle in a haystack and he knew where it was. I think your odds are better of winning the Powerball than of that being a coincidence.
I agree with absynth_minded (guilt by association can be as bad as the real thing) that there are many unknowns in this case and I venture to say the police have done more than their share of bungling. That's nothing new.
I live in Pittsburgh PA, the home city of world renounded coroner Dr. Cyril Wecht, I know him and I can tell you he was not asked to come in to help. Was Dr. Michael Baden asked to help? If facts are what you are searching for, Wouldn't you call in as many people as you could to get help, advice, a different viewpoint, whatever? This didn't happen. Maybe it didn't matter. It seems strange that if the kiddie porn computer was not his, why his defense attorneys aren't saying that. Or are they? The RTD hasn't reported that. And why his defense attorney turned in the guns through another attorney? It's all very strange. But again, he either had it or he didn't. These cases are like paintings and every new thing you have adds a stroke of color. It appears to me that facing 5 years for each count of child pornography (what were there, 14?) and the guns is a federal violation and the ATF will get involved if it was an unregistered handgun. Hell, Just the fact that you have bi-polar or whatever means you can't own a handgun, so my guess is he won't be seeing the light of day even if he isn't convicted of the Behl slaying. That's just the way it's going to be. I mean, whether the gas station attendant saw him or not is just noise. The big picture they have. It's filling in the backgound that has everyone's knickers in a twist.
Today a young woman who had a life to live was put in a casket, then a concrete box and buried. Or maybe cremated, I don't know. Either way, it was senseless and so unnecessary. It just really bothers me. The world we live in sucks.
Just today I read that a woman near here beats another one with a baseball bat and then tries to cut her unborn baby from her womb. Yet another nutcase, wackjob, lunatic in our society that has gone awry. I'm gonna be like the Dalai Lama (I met him BTW through my job) and I'm gonna keep preaching compassion. He's right, you know.
Posted by: Bob | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 06:38 PM
Bob
Your post was thick with inaccuracies, too many to comment on. I would like for you to point out anyone's comments that Ben was innocent of any wrong doing, surely you can find one. There were a lot of us, most really, who were not willing to send a man to the gas chamber because we don't like his lifestyle. God help us, it nauseates me to think anyone might fry because he's wierd or because of his "art" or because he is just different. What's scariest, is that I've actually seen it happen, so I know it can.
But let me be the second to tell you that you were apparently right as Ben has confessed.It's there, but for the right reasons..because he admitted it w/out coercion and it is likely that the cops have the evidence to back it up. Evidence WE did not know and therefore had no right to convict him or anyone else w/out a trial. It is far better that a dozen guilty men go free than for one to die for a crime he did not commit.
Now on to the sentencing phase.
Posted by: Rick | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 07:05 PM
I base the following opinion on absynth_minded post that Ben said "something happened during rough sex."
Hmmm. Does anyone find it odd that ONE day after the media reports the autopsy was inconclusive that poor Benny comes up with an excuse for her death that essentially blames the victim? It took him a month to come up with that? Geez-o-peet, was it because she came too hard??? And let's not forget The Dark Side has a little dialoge about this very topic this week. Wow. It's almost like Benny has access to the Internet and TV in jail. Rick seems to be extremely knowledgable about the facts of the case, what do you think Rick? Can he get 'Net access, or talk to someone who does from his 4 by 7? It's an honest question.
It's way past time that we start calling it what it is. And no, he won't "fry" because he's an arty person who plasters his van with floor to ceiling bumper stickers and talks to the kombucha mushroom people.
No, people don't get the death penalty for that. It's actions. It's called being held accountable for your actions. That's a dirty word these days I know. No one wants to be held accountable for anything, the president on down. It's not my fault! is like a new religion or something.
I absolutely LOVeD Taylor's mother today who used the VERY interesting phraseolgy "the downward spiral" in reference to where she wanted the victim Ben Frawley to go. Whaddya think, does she like NIN or what? That was priceless, my friends. God bless her. I love that CD. Of course you all know NIN recorded it in Sharon Tate's home. You all know who she was, right? She was 8 and a half months pregnant when she was murdered by the victims Tex Watson, Susan Atkins and Patricia Krenwinkle, all of them victims of the victim Charles Manson. So sad so many living victims in jail. Really. Lets all join hands around the fire and sing Kum ba ya.
"Some one's crying Lord, Kum ba ya."
Posted by: bob | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 07:50 PM
the death sentence or life without a chance of parole either one would be fine. give him the needle or let him live in a cell the rest of his life. just dont let him pull the Preppy Murder Defense off and get out in 15 years.
Posted by: joe b | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 08:21 PM
I cant believe, that this 38 year old man had children...He must not have been much of a father to those children, just the sperm donor id imagine, because if you truely loved your children, sick or not sick, perverted or not perverted. If you love your kids, you would NEVER put yourself in a position, to be taken away from them for the rest of their lives... Furthermore, I hope this becomes an eye opener for those younger women searching for adventure, or searching to find themselves, that there are many more just like him that do lay in wait for their prey or next victim... Be careful out there and use common sense, Richmond has never been the safiest of cities, and again its proven that its still not a safe place to roam... Bless the families that have been torn apart and hope that Fawley(the grown up skateboarding murderer) gets his bolts of electricity in a few months, so my hard earned tax dollars dont get spent on feeding this Johnny Dep wanta be, for the next 20 years
Posted by: Yerfmop | Saturday, October 15, 2005 at 03:29 PM
>>Richmond has never been the safiest of cities, and again its proven that its still not a safe place to roam...
NO place is a safe place to roam.
Posted by: cosmic mojo | Sunday, October 16, 2005 at 03:31 PM
Fawley killed her.it was no accident either.She left her dorm at 10:20 PM.There is no way she was going to drive 70 miles away to a remote beach;it was a school night.
Somehow; she wound up at Fawleys house.He made a move and she said no.He forced himself on her.She fought back and he knew or she said it was going to the police;so he strangled her then dumped her in the most desolate place he knew.
Sad truth is all they have on him is 2nd degree murder and statutory rape.This could even drop to manslaughter.What a shame.He will never be charged with rape because she had an admitted sexual relationship and isint around to deny any part of sex was not consensual.
My heart is sick for her mother.Fawley let her baby lie in that ditch like she was garbage while her mother went out of her mind with grief.
Posted by: mark | Tuesday, October 18, 2005 at 05:34 PM
So have they determined the cause of death? I'm doing a school report that is due today on her... I am making a poster board... I am trying to find her real cause of death.
Thanks
Posted by: TheGasMaskGuy | Friday, December 01, 2006 at 11:13 AM