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OMG. As much as I do not want this to be Taylor, many people have said to check abandoned buildings, points of interest to Ben.

yep, I stressed the same paragraph; I think it's very telling. Now there's a coincidence that is not likely. I think this is it.

"Sources said the property where the grave was discovered was one of a number of "locations of interest" identified by task force investigators"

If it does turn out to be Taylor, maybe some real answers can be found and the guilty one punished. God be with all her family right now.

Mathews County is about 65 miles east of Richmond on the Chesapeake Bay. It's on what we call the "middle pennisula" (there are 3 along the Va. Atlantic coastline) between the Piankatank River and Mobjack Bay. The shore line is very contoured with lots of 'fingers' reaching into the water. It is a pretty isolated rural area.

Taylor's family and friends are in my thoughts and prayers, regardless of the outcome here.

This could be a very sad day. I can't help but wonder if something came out in the Grand Jury to lead them there if this is Taylor.

I have been there on vacation and it is a small town. Kind of coutry like.

Taylor's family and friends are in my thoughts and prayers, regardless of the outcome here.

Posted by: suzyqueue | Oct 5, 2005 3:49:15 PM

Indeed SuzyQ

>>"Sources said the property where the grave was discovered was one of a number of "locations of interest" identified by task force investigators"

>>Posted by: CosmicMojo

wow, now that's a big assumption. Why do think that this points to BF? LE probably took statements from alot of people. It could another suspect just as easily as it could be BF.

This could be a very sad day. I can't help but wonder if something came out in the Grand Jury to lead them there if this is Taylor.

I have been there on vacation and it is a small town. Kind of coutry like.

Posted by: Teresa | Oct 5, 2005 3:54:49 PM

Kind of think the police have known about this area of "Interest" for awhile, but as it seems, a suspect already in custody had many areas of interest. Could take some time to identify and search.

It could another suspect just as easily as it could be BF.


Posted by: blues | Oct 5, 2005 3:57:44 PM

Yeah right. And which other suspects liked to take pictures in abandoned run down locations?

so when will we find anything out ?

Where are the people that knew BF? Did he go to Mathews or have connections there? CONFESS!

Thanks for the report Dan.
Sad.

Where are the people that knew BF? Did he go to Mathews or have connections there? CONFESS!

Posted by: Teresa | Oct 5, 2005 4:02:55 PM

first of all, he was not her BF. What is Mathews?
And the connection would be the perverts fixation on abandoned buildings.

so when will we find anything out ?

Posted by: jessie | Oct 5, 2005 4:02:17 PM

ummmm my guess would be as soon as they can identify the body.

before you jump downsomeones throat CINDI she was asking about BEN FAWLEY they did not call him her Boy friend....open up those eyes and read before you leap.

Well I hope this brings answers. Her family deserves answers as well and I while I always feel bad when a body is discovered, it has to be better to know and have closure and something to bury than to wait for years not knowing anything.

first of all, he was not her BF. What is Mathews?
And the connection would be the perverts fixation on abandoned buildings.

Posted by: Cindi in PA | Oct 5, 2005 4:05:33 PM

Ok, I don't understand he was not her BF, Mathews is where the body has been found.

ya no kidding cindi .. im meaning about how long does that take ....

"wow, now that's a big assumption. Why do think that this points to BF? LE probably took statements from alot of people. It could another suspect just as easily as it could be BF.
Posted by: blues | Oct 5, 2005 3:57:44 PM'

I didn't say it points to Fawley; talk about a big assumption. The paper said the property was among a list they drew up after talking to witnesses. So clearly, it's someone they've already talked to. I didn't say it was Fawley.

Mathews County is a rural isolated county with a little agriculture, mostly vacation homes, retired families.

(BF is used here to refer to Ben Fawley, not BoyFriend; coming from volunteering in an abused women's shelter I mixed them up at first too.)

before you jump downsomeones throat CINDI she was asking about BEN FAWLEY they did not call him her Boy friend....open up those eyes and read before you leap.

Posted by: hokEwife | Oct 5, 2005 4:08:01 PM

first let me say this.......it's jump down someone's throat, and to defend BF, BEN FAWLEY, OR BF AT THIS point is plain stupid. Anyone with any sense, considering where a body was found and Benny boys connection to abandoned buildings would only come to one conclusion.

(BF is used here to refer to Ben Fawley, not BoyFriend; coming from volunteering in an abused women's shelter I mixed them up at first too.)

Posted by: cosmicmojo | Oct 5, 2005 4:11:22 PM

yeah kind of like.........my friend and MF LOL

THANKS jOE

No need to argue; we'll know soon enough.
The police know which witness is connected to that site.

No need to argue; we'll know soon enough.
The police know which witness is connected to that site.

Posted by: cosmicMojo | Oct 5, 2005 4:17:46 PM

Indeed jo

Cindi,

First let me say, Get over yourself and stop being such a "B" (see if you can figure that one out).

Second of all no one is defending that useless waste of space. He is a worthless soul (not even up their with a lab rat in my book).

Ok people, a young girl could be dead. Lets just discuss that. I came here to get off those crazy message boards with the trolls.

I found this on another site, although it is another blog, but it is very suspicious:

"Mathews County is where Erin Crabill is from.
Diggs, VA.
It's a place both Ben Fawley and Erin were intimate with."

My thoughts and prayers are with Taylors family and friends!

ya no kidding cindi .. im meaning about how long does that take ....

Posted by: jessie | Oct 5, 2005 4:10:57 PM

jess.....wasn't being smart. It depends on how long it takes to get dental records and so on. Lots of things could play into this. There have been cases where teeth have been removed, it took longer to confirm.

"Mathews County is where Erin Crabill is from.
Diggs, VA.
It's a place both Ben Fawley and Erin were intimate with."

My thoughts and prayers are with Taylors family and friends!

Posted by: curiousmom | Oct 5, 2005 4:21:55 PM

it sure does not look good at this point.

ha ha, I kept wondering why you were calling me Joe (hey! I'm a girl!)
:)
then, duh, I acknowledge that my screen name end in 'jo'.

OK, thought you might need a comedy break kids, 'cause you're starting to show some tension. We don't need to call other posters the B word or any others.
chill everyone and let's focus on what this is about: Taylor, her family, and solving a crime.

chill everyone

We do have Jo Jo the singer. :)

Ok, Erin and BF had ties to Diggs,Va. Do you thing maybe one of these two are trying to pin this one or the other. It is obvious they had big troubles.

Cindi,

First let me say, Get over yourself and stop being such a "B" (see if you can figure that one out).

Second of all no one is defending that useless waste of space. He is a worthless soul (not even up their with a lab rat in my book).

Posted by: hokEwife | Oct 5, 2005 4:20:08 PM

HOK..........glad you got my message.

I cannot spell today. :(

"Anyone with any sense, considering where a body was found and Benny boys connection to abandoned buildings would only come to one conclusion."

Is there anybody who kills a teenager who wouldn't try to hide the body in a relatively abandoned, isolated area? You think if someone else did it, they'd have buried her in the middle of town square?

It's worth remembering that police did have other people of interest and we don't know who those people are, nor do we know anything about their level of interest in abandoned buildings or lack thereof. Also, the body was behind a barn on someone's property. There's no indication it was even an abandoned barn. I'm not saying the guy's innocent. Clearly, he's suspicious. But so is the 22-year-old skateboarder who failed the polygraph. This whole guilty until proven innocent attitude should really be dialed back a bit, at least until we know who else the police have been looking at and why.

TERESA, not a problem, I don't even know what day it is.

Dan has another post up about this case

Is there anybody who kills a teenager who wouldn't try to hide the body in a relatively abandoned, isolated area? You think if someone else did it, they'd have buried her in the middle of town square

Posted by: wallace | Oct 5, 2005 4:30:16 PM

Fawley has pictures of this place on his web site.

Is there anybody who kills a teenager who wouldn't try to hide the body in a relatively abandoned, isolated area? You think if someone else did it, they'd have buried her in the middle of town square

Posted by: wallace | Oct 5, 2005 4:30:16 PM

Posted by: Cindi in PA | Oct 5, 2005 4:35:18 PM

like dogs, they return to familiar places, it's a well known fact and most often used by LE when searching for a crime scene.

Fawley has pictures of this place on his web site.

Posted by: Casey | Oct 5, 2005 4:36:04 PM

thanks casey.......looking now

"Is there anybody who kills a teenager who wouldn't try to hide the body in a relatively abandoned, isolated area?Posted by: wallace | Oct 5, 2005 4:30:16 PM"

Good point Wallace.
That is why I always scoff at 'psychics' who predict the body will be found in an abandoned isolated area. Well duh, we all know that! It's obvious. Don't have to be a psychic or rocket scientist!

Back to topic:
Diggs in in easternmost Mathews County right on the Chesapeake Bay.

"Fawley has pictures of this place on his web site."

Posted by: Casey | Oct 5, 2005 4:36:04 PM

Could you please post the link if you have it

Could you please post the link if you have it

Posted by: curiousmom | Oct 5, 2005 4:41:14 PM

go back through the archives, if it is there you will find it. There are hundreds of photos to go through. Might take you half a night.

>>"Sources said the property where the grave was discovered was one of a number of "locations of interest" identified by task force investigators"
>>Posted by: CosmicMojo
wow, now that's a big assumption. Why do think that this points to BF? LE probably took statements from alot of people. It could another suspect just as easily as it could be BF.
Posted by: blues | Oct 5, 2005 3:57:44 PM

the coincidence I was referring to was that (sadly) I think the body is Taylor. I never said it proved fawley did it. I think it does indicated that someone the police talked to in this case did it.
chill babe

>>"Sources said the property where the grave was discovered was one of a number of "locations of interest" identified by task force investigators"
>>Posted by: CosmicMojo
wow, now that's a big assumption. Why do think that this points to BF? LE probably took statements from alot of people. It could another suspect just as easily as it could be BF.
Posted by: blues | Oct 5, 2005 3:57:44 PM

the coincidence I was referring to was that (sadly) I think the body is Taylor. I never said it proved fawley did it. I think it does indicated that someone the police talked to in this case did it.
chill babe

Posted by: cosmicmojo | Oct 5, 2005 4:54:50 PM

I agree with cosmicmojo here...However I am going to go out on a limb here and say BF was at the very least invovled, think about it, his story about his own kidnapping...the time frame he gave offers just enough time to make the trip out there, do whatever it is he/they did to her and bury her and drive back...

These are the links to the house people are talking about on websleuth.com that they think is the same house where the body is found. These pictures were found on his deviantart website. After seeing the news the houses don't look similar to me however there a many houses in this area (Matthews/Gloucester) that look like this. It could of been a house located in Matthews but maynot not the one the body was found at. I live in Gloucester County which is one county over from Matthews.

http://www.deviantart.com/view/20059014/
http://www.deviantart.com/view/20059235/

I also wanted to say that Matthews County is not that far of a drive from Richmond. I live in Gloucester, one county and I drove to the Richmond aiport and back yesterday evening to pick up a car. I left at 5pm and got home at 7pm it would probably be pretty easy for someone to drive from Richmond to Matthews, dig a shallow grave, and return to Richmond by 5am.

oh yeah, definitely different house. weeds, high grass, faded unpainted house in the pics.

The news tonight shows a well-maintained house with a close-mown field.

We used to go on vacation in Matthews. It is very rural. However, as much as BF likes isolated places, he usually chooses those places in the Richmond area. Matthews County is about an hour or two away from Richmond on the Chesapeake Bay.

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