Scott Edgar Dyleski Charged As Adult

Dyleski didn't enter a plea.  Future hearing date not set.

Additional insight into Dyleski in article here. It's a little difficult to comment without seeming to be overly judgemental on the parenting here given some of my opinions on child rearing. And it could well be that the Mother was cash strapped and stuck living in almost a lean to for some period of time.

Unfortunately, I can't quite get around the notion that this young man was raised in some almost hands off, the universe and a few crystals will take care of us, fashion which I am compelled to believe had to contribute to this individual's ultimate mental state at the time of the crime.

The world isn't some simplistic utopia and managing within our complex society becomes more challenging every day. With the negative influences available in the world, allowing a child to drift off and create whatever world of his own he wants just isn't some parenting strategy I'm prepared to buy.

Lisa Mayeda, a leader in Dyleski's Boy Scout troop, recalled teaching a merit-badge class with the boy's mother in 2003. Dyleski was helpful and courteous, Mayeda said. "That young man seemed like the most balanced, patient young man," she said. "He seemed really mature." Mayeda also said the family appeared "kind of liberated, different from Lafayette." "To me, they seemed kind of different, more a Berkeley style," she said.

Some students said Thursday they had long considered him "weird" or "creepy," and not only for the black trench coat he wore nearly every day.

One remembers him coming to school one day in full face paint, dressed up as a sort of gothic clown with a top hat. The student also mentioned his dark personality, evidenced by charcoal drawings of "people with their mouths sewn shut and eyes with nails through them dripping blood."

One classmate remembers him signing yearbooks with a mysterious, pentagram-like symbol.

"I think he resented the fact that his family was not as normal as everyone else's," he said.

Comments

[kin]

His next court appearance is on Thursday (10/27) and maybe he'll show up with even shorter hair? I'm dying (no pun) to know if he got this haircut before or after his arrest.

Aaron Brown said on News Night the "Arrest of a 16 yr. old in the Pam Vitale Murder" beat out "Hurricane Wilma" and "Tom Delay" as CNN's TOP news story of the day. He didn't say how many hits it got but this case is so shocking and so bizarre I'm not surprised.

[kin]

Interesting and important info about the 'state of mind' of the suspect..

Any 'psychological stresses' (death of stepsister 2002 and mother & stepfather filing for divorce 4 days before murder 2005) that may have played a role at the time of the murder will be relevant at sentencing but not in terms of guilt or innocent. This according to the law and Greta V.

[Jackie]

NO he's only 16, he should have just a very long sentance and not anything else, um...i have nothing else to say!

~Jackie~

*Scott is HOTT*

[Stitch]

Scott did wrong.. but people are blowing the whole goth thing out of control.. just because a kid is goth doesn't mean that he is wrong.. or that the "goth" image has anything to do with this murder... okay?

and i agree Scott is Very hott..

[amanda]

well the fact this kid is goth doesnt change anything...but i think its obvious he has/had mental issues becuase of his home life...
they say theres new evidence stating the husband couldve been the one to kill his wife...
who knows. if scott did kill her, he should be tried as an adult...
and yea, i agree with everyone else, scott is hot...even if he is a murderer

[Sara]

One of the cnn reports commented that he'd changed so much in the past 2-3 years. Well, that would be a positive thing. There is a huge differnce between 13 and 16! So he's "goth", he's 16! That's about the time goths come out of the coffin closet. At first I was concerned that he was arrested because he was goth, then the credit thing came out. I think he did it. I think he was prompted. I'm willing to bet there's something with the parents. Why would a mother tell her son not to come home because there are cops in the area? If you killed someone would you tell your mother? I know mine would turn me in.
There's more to this.

[Bella]

I definitely do NOT think the whole goth aspect should be blown out of proportion, but it clearly is. One Larry King Live, the second they announced a description of Scott before they released his name, that's all they focused on. He dressed in black, he was different, he was weird, and people looked at Scott and said "Oooohhh, THAT kid." SO? He was different from the tanned Ken and Barbie dolls walking around. Does he get a gold star, or is the media creating even more of a fuss?

People are pretty quick to blame the parents as well. Let's not get all gung-ho just yet. He was raised in a more of a New Age-ish type home. Not my style, but okay. It's a recognized religion, and a religion with which this country was influenced by when it was initially established (52 of the 56 signers of the constitution were indeed "New Age"...food for thought). Back to the parents, Dyleski's parents, not Dyleski, can help they suffered a tragedy with the untimely death of Danica, Scott's 18-year-old sister. It was after this Scott suddenly changed personalities. This might be where the parenting would come into question. After all, this boy was more than crying for help...he was SCREAMING for help. He was completely destroyed by the loss of his sister. Quite a few sites are critiquing the parents, especially about the divorce. Don't react too quickly like was done at Columbine. History repeats itself in an uncanny way (Hitler and Bush after all are quite the pair). After COlumbine, mass panis ensued. It made my senior year at high school hell and completely unenjoyable. Calm down, relax, and get the whole story somehow before your minds are made up. He IS only 17. He HAS apparently reacted in a unhealthy way to grief. Just because he is goth doesn't mean that automatically spells murderer. So let's go right ahead and dissociate the two. That's like watching Brittany Spears murder her neighbor in the trailor park and assuming washed up "singers" commit violent crimes. Where's the logic?

[Mike]

If guilty..are the parents responsible? Absolutely! The minute one of my sons tells me he is seeking goth and/or rastapharian as a "religion". I know I have fail in parenthood and therefore I have fail in live as well.

If he is guilty, then he should be prosecuted as an adult. I rather see the death penalty I don't want my tax money to go maintain this creep for his entire life.

[Mickey]

why scott tried as an adult?

[Amir]

Mike, your tax money arent what we are concerned about. I agree with other writers that maybe they jumped to this kid was because he was goth and "creepy" but you should never make assumptions

[Dave Rellic]

I think the fact that he is a goth certainly does apply, seeing as how he carved a gothic symbol into the victim's back. I think this evil twerp should rot in hell.

[Dave Rellic]

Oh, and another thing: just because someone dresses in all black and goes around looking like an idiot doesn't mean hes "unique" because he doesnt look like some "ken or barbie". The reality of it is that kids like that are being generically unique (think about that one). Every kid ready to rebel and suddenly become a "unique" goth is just like every other kid who does the same. And the thing that makes this uniqueness even worse than a "ken" or "barbie" is that goths are generally very pretentious and self riteous about their "uniqueness". Theyve messed themselves up to be different, but really they're just a brick in an opposite wall.

[Jean]

I'm hoping someone can give me some advice. I have a son about to turn 16. He likes to wear black jeans and shirts all the time featuring skulls on them. He is very quiet and he is always giving me a hard time about going to church. He says he believes in God and the devil but he likes the devil better. There were some other less troubling issues as well and he has gone to see a pyschiatrist (sp)and I have been told he does this just to get me worked up. However, even if I ignore it, he persists and even said he looked at a satanic website while visiting his father. Deep down, he's not a bad kid, but all this devil talk and talk about hating church is weirding me out.

[nathan]

The media does indeed seem to get their jollies over dyleski’s gothic appearance but before you all start to form opinions or worse toss out foolish comments like those of Dave Rellic (above) perhaps you should do a little research on the gothic subculture. I recommend http://www.gothicsubculture.com/ . If you choose to do so I’m sure you will find that the common idea of what is goth and many public conceptions of the gothic subculture are rather off, if not grossly wrong. A couple of interesting points that might perk your interest are as follows. Although often ghoulish in appearance most Goths are passive and tend to avoid violence, Marilyn Manson is not commonly considered a goth band and many goths actually resent his antics partially due to the negative attention they receive as a result and partially because they feel that he is simply pushing people’s buttons to sell records. As I am a goth I have to say that the media’s portrayal of deleski and the insulations they make toward the gothic subculture worry me a great deal. I would appreciate it if you all would take a minute or so of your time to improve your knowledge of what is essentially a misunderstood group of people. If you learn a little and perhaps tell a friend maybe we can help remove some of the social pressures these kids have to face. In addition to that you’ll get to sound really smart next time the dyleski case comes up.

[nathan]

Jean, in response to your post I would say that your son is probably just attempting to define/discover who he is. It’s common for teens and for many it includes a few years in black and the pursuit of alternative ideas about religion and society as well as many other things. Further more your son can’t and won’t grow up to be you, or his father, and that means that at some point he is going to have to learn to reject some of your views. This is also part of being a teen. I am not a psychologist but I would say that the best thing you could do is to show interest and support for you son’s ideas. Try to understand them without judging. Make it clear that he has the right to his own opinions but that he needs to be respectful of yours, just as you are of his.
In addition if he is behaving this way simply to “weird you out” it would seem that the most prudent thing you could do is accept it and try not to let it bother you. If he is trying to irritate you and it’s not working he ought to stop. I’m not saying that he’s only trying to ruffle your feathers, but if he is then it should all evaporate the moment you show genuine interest in his point of view.
Best of luck Nathan

[Vitale]

hey what was this kids home life like? Was it good, or was it bad? like was the family well of like they had what they need to get by and to have a lil money on the side? wan the mother told him not to come home? now doen't that spell out weird for you?
Vitale

[Secret]

Hello i don't know if anyone is reading this anymore but i have something to say, and I think everyone should here this Scott is not so creeepy and weird as everyone seems to think he is. Thats why when i heard he was being charged it was a mind blower. I have Known Scott since first grade. I know that he may seem weird and all but i think that YOU (being the people that think he is guilty) need to look alittle deeper than OMG he is diffrent from my republican ways(or thats how it seems)he is so going down. that is how it is proceeved(sp). So before you go and think oh no he is guilty i know it because he dresses in black. you should really think about it. also to Jean i think you need to just sit down with your child and just talk however unconfortable(sp) it may be but that is what your child is looking for. you need to connect on somehting you both like and just be there for him.you say while at his fathers that implys divorce... so i think this may have hurt him more than he is letting on or he is showing or told you. so that is what i had to say so please take that how you will that is all.

and one more thing... i'm sorry if i Affended anyone i just needed to get that off my chest thank you.