FYI - On Fox they are reporting that Deepak Kalpoe denies answering pertinent questions in the manner the tape from Skeeters depicts. I do find it interesting that even the Twitty family is saying they "hope" the tape is real. Apparently they don't have complete confidence in Skeeters either. Now onto the post at hand.
One aspect of it is when you inspire someone else to start a web log - even if they do it because they disagree with you. That doesn't really matter to me. I embrace the medium and welcome anyone to give it a try. If you build readership, whatever their positions - that's what it is all about, a sense of community around the exchange of information.
In the end, it will be the people not the bloggers who determine what is popular and perhaps even right. A formed reader since banned has started this blog.
And anoter reader continues on with her efforts, as well.


You banned Frank?? Figures!! You always do those so much more intelligent than you. And those you do not ban you insult so they will leave. Even the one-eyed man is king in the land of the blind, right?
Well, at least on this article you have it spelled correctly as Web Logs as opposed to your Categories spelling of Web Blogs so guess that is an improvement. Makes you living proof that even the semi-literate can have their own web log. Soon everyone will have one it seems.
But you attracted a lot of posters to your forum based on your once professed unconditional support for the family of Natalee Holloway which turned out to be so shallow that when you found yourself out of the loop on information, you turned on them and instead of being at least neutral are now a charter member of the van der Sloot fan club. It's just all a big joke for you, Dan, but for some it is not a game. They don't have the privilege of changing horses in midstream as you have done for it's their child who is missing.
Your humor is on par with your journalism, I see. You really took not being invited by the family to participate in any activities related to this investigation seriously, didn't you. Guess you are going to show them, huh? Well, they knew they couldn't trust you even back then and turns out they were right.
Posted by: YouKnowWho! | Sunday, October 16, 2005 at 01:01 AM
I've really had enough of you and all your different names of late, anna - good bye.
Posted by: Dan | Sunday, October 16, 2005 at 01:05 AM
Well, the Twitty family did say it tonight and more interesting, it wasnt DR Phil after all that put conditions on the tape but the lawyer for the Twittys. Now humm, how in the world is that Dans fault? And the Fed Ex'd tape still hasnt made it to Aruba.
Interesting isnt it? Maybe FBI got done examining it and decided there is nothing but cut and paste there after all.
Posted by: doesanyoneremembernatalee | Sunday, October 16, 2005 at 01:31 AM
I do find it interesting that even the Twitty family is saying they "hope" the tape is real. Apparently they don't have complete confidence in Skeeters either. Now onto the post at hand.
Well, who can really blame them, to date every lead they thought would turn out has been bogus, every affirmative statement, false. They are grapping at any straws to find their daughter and I'm sure by now conditioned that it might not work out the way they so badly need it too. After 4 mths of dead end roads, I'd "hope" too!
Posted by: redpetals12 | Sunday, October 16, 2005 at 02:05 AM
That Aruba Dirty Police site is .....so many negative adjectives come to mind am having trouble choosing the ones to name. Will go with Rummy's polite favorite "not helpful." The person seems to think it is satire, but it isn't funny. Pretty good satire (not about this case) is at the Onion website. But the Aruba Police site - glad you banned this commenter Dan.
Most of the comments there are slammers linking to something they are marketing.
Posted by: shonane | Sunday, October 16, 2005 at 02:22 AM
Well, the guy you banned is disturbed obviously. Fantasizing about an on going investigation contributing to harsh rumors and negativity, he is sick.
The readers blog is cool. no "SLAMMERS" as you claimed Shoshane, they are clicks to advertising sites for other blogs.
S2S
Posted by: Sly2SmoothieNJs | Sunday, October 16, 2005 at 02:45 AM
Sly2SmoothieNJs >> "Slammers" resulted when spell check changed the word I did type in "spammers" because it didn't recognize it. I seem to be master of the typos on my posts here. In my job I have to write a lot that gets public release,and have to proof and reproof, rewrite, reorganize. However,when I post here don't go through all that since it takes longer, and it shows, plus is harder to proof in this little box.
You picked some appropriate adjectives for the guy that maintains that site "obviously disturbed."
Posted by: shonane | Sunday, October 16, 2005 at 03:08 AM
Dan, Did you ban Anna? or YouKnowWho? Just for her opinion? Come on, Dan, although your satire was so NOT funny, your blog is still interesting. Don't ban some of the fun posters. That's why I read. It's not for the Holloway case anymore because I don't agree with anything you have been writing!
Posted by: Dummyhunter | Sunday, October 16, 2005 at 03:52 AM
Blogs are new to me but the dynamics are interesting. Two thoughts...in my opinion, since the blog is personal, the owner has every right to allow or not allow any poster. I don't know who started the Dirty Police blog and I still wasn't sure after looking at it. I did notice the absence of Frank though, and whether I agreed with him or not, quite honestly, I really found him to be very intellligent, concise, and articulate. I miss his contributions. I know some did not agree with him, but the diversity of views stated in a respectful and intelligent way is what makes the discussion interesting.
Posted by: dadreamer | Sunday, October 16, 2005 at 10:07 AM
You should be ASHAMED of the way you speak of the Holloway family. First, you seemed so supportive, now any little stab you can get in, you gleefully post it. What is wrong with you? Have you no shame whatsoever? What happened to your little theory that Natalee died from an orgasm? You've lost your mind, so why don't you do everyone a favor and stop spewing forth this garbage. You're starting to remind me of a little Hitler, similar to Loretta at Misfits. And no, that's NOT a compliment.
Posted by: HollowayFamilySupporter | Sunday, October 16, 2005 at 10:52 AM
i don't see how beth and family can believe anything anymore. from the police on up, they've had smoke blown up the butts by everyone they've encountered. all they want is natalee and justice for whoever harmed her. its hard to fault her for that. and its impossible for me to figure out why some people hate her so much for doing whatever it takes to find natalee. i would bet money beth and her whole family would crawl across the street to the le and beg on their knees to anyone promising to bring back natalee.
Posted by: dennisintn | Sunday, October 16, 2005 at 12:06 PM
and then, if that didn't work, let the fun begin.
Posted by: dennisintn | Sunday, October 16, 2005 at 12:21 PM
You know everyone on this and every blog that thinks Joran, Kalpoes and Paulus is innocent is just showing how stupid they are. I mean seriously do ANY of you really think they are innocent? I mean everything those boys and that dad did during the first days after the dissapearance is everything a guilty person would do.1. comeup with a cover story 2. try to pin ot on someone else 3. start pointing fingers at each other 4. hire lawyers that continually try to screw up the investigation 5. have their buddies in the le cover everything up Personally i think they have her body. I think they had the body when they were going to pin it on the black guys then when beth came down they had to get rid of it. Listen for all of those people that say no evidense need to stop showing the world how stupid they are i mean their wont be any evidense in an investigation thats sole purpose is to cover the whole thing up. The only good thing that will come of this is that the people who truly care about natalie wont forget and one day when joran is drunk that person will beat the truth out of him and hopefully his body wont be found so therefore no case
Posted by: DanWheresUrDildo | Sunday, October 16, 2005 at 12:39 PM
It seems clear to me that many people that have been here since the very beginning of the investigation seemed to be here because they thought Dan was totally against the 3 boys. Well, fromm my own observations, and I do always think oside of the "bxo" if you will, Dan has alaways remaimed neutral. Innocent till proven guilty. He has had extreme respect for the Twitty's, Holloway's, and most of all Natalee. If Dan has resently come out and said, "look we can not slander and go on assuming these guys are guilty without actual eveidence, then i believe he has integrety, and being morally true to himself. He is not saying they DID NOT do it, he is saying that there has not been eveidence to prove it. You can not solve a case on here say alone. Unfortunately when you try to be honest, and go by the books you tends to lose alot of support because the ones that were there for you all along are not as dignified and true as they claim. In Dan's profession he puts up with alot of B/S and he can take the heat. So, if you feel better bashing and pointing fingers, then so be it, but, when someone like "Anna-YouKnowWho" flat out scolds and berates him at his own blog, well hell yeah she should be banned. Who the heck soes she think she is? Bee-otch!
Well, I am in support of Dan yes, but, he knows, as well as many of my posts prove, I don't always agree with some of the things he presents to us, but, I NEVER will belittle him or insult his intelligence, that is the difference here. Respect. Without it it, you are zilch, then poof, your outa here!
S2S
Posted by: Sly2SmoothieNJs | Sunday, October 16, 2005 at 01:26 PM
Actually, I would venture that those who don't understand the difference between:
innocent until proven guilty and believing that someone is innocent,
are the stupid ones.
I believe in presumption of innocence until proven guilty. This doesn't make me stupid. It means that I believe in a basic and fundamental right guaranteed to individuals from many countries in the world fortunate to have guaranteed rights and freedoms.
Those who advocate vigilante justice shouldn't be lecturing anyone, on what's right and what's wrong in this case.
Posted by: Not a Hand Wringer | Sunday, October 16, 2005 at 01:28 PM
so cancun girl left too?
who is left dan?
everyone from the old gang has wisened up i see
bet even phantom and wreck said buh bye
seems everyone has caught on
Posted by: hahaha! | Sunday, October 16, 2005 at 02:04 PM
checking in..answering the roll call..not going anywhere..
Posted by: farmgirl | Sunday, October 16, 2005 at 02:27 PM
sorry don't know ya
Posted by: hahaha! | Sunday, October 16, 2005 at 02:57 PM
Dan should just ban anybody that thinks or says anything bad about Van der Sloot or the Kalpoes because he is under extreme pressure from the Aruban and U.S. government to stop bad feelings between the two countries and obviously has been threatened to not allow guilt and Joran in the same sentence on his blog.
Posted by: JW | Sunday, October 16, 2005 at 03:09 PM
yes and dan led the readers here to believe that he was thisclose to dave holloway when in reality those of us who are in touch with dave know that he only contacted dan because he was hurt and disgusted by the way dan was presenting his daughter and the death by orgasm story
way to go dan!
Posted by: hahaha! | Sunday, October 16, 2005 at 03:18 PM
Anyone who can continue to make excuses for Beth when she lies at every turn are the ones who are showing their ignorance. This woman can't even tell the truth about her own daughter's toothbrush. Her story changes to suit her ego needs for the day.
I can't believe anyone could actually think that Beth and Jug are not fully aware of everything that has been done so far to make those three boys seem guilty. They have been behind it all. They are the ones who are giving their consent to Jossy, Skeeter, and that T.J. Ward. I am sure I have forgotten some of the other rotten apples in this barrel.
Posted by: jody | Sunday, October 16, 2005 at 03:29 PM
Class will begin for Kindergartners as follows.....
In most civil countries, the accused shall have the right to a trial, which, based upon EVIDENCE will determine their guilt or innocence.
In the United States of America that right is even expanded to a trial by a jury of the person's peers, therefore giving more unbiased objectivity.
In trials, emotions count for ZERO. How one FEELS is irrelevant. FACTS, and EVIDENCE are the only logical way to run any criminal investigation.
Since there is no evidence, and the facts are not incriminating, then the only possible choice is that which was undertaken.
Am I saying these boys are innocent? I don't know, and neither does anyone except those actually involved. Do I THINK they might have something to do with it. Yes I do, but I cannot convict someone based upon "feelings"...and those who can....would be better off moving to Russia or Cuba, where that style of "justice" occurs frequently.
It has nothing to do with whose "side" someone is on. You are either a just person, or you are not. Unless you were personally involved, and are privy to the true facts, then all you and I have are OPINIONS.
Last I heard, the only countries where people were punished for "opinions" were communist countries...and maybe that is where you belong.
Posted by: TheAlamo | Sunday, October 16, 2005 at 09:49 PM
this call for a ban on Aruba is a joke, Why not call a ban on California and every other state that messed up a murder investigation, i.e OJ or even the entire USA for war crimes.
I've been to both Aruba and USA for vacations and with a doudt the people in Aruba treat holiday makers better than we have been treated in USA, but I only have been to LA,Vegas,San Diago, SF in three weeks and I cant wait to get out of this pit.
Posted by: A User | Wednesday, November 09, 2005 at 04:09 AM