Natalee Holloway Update

Had an email from Dave - he has to set his trip back just a few days but is still going to Aruba as mentioned here.

Ian has the video of Beth on Greta tonight.

Comments

[Anchor]

Is there any information on who Dave may have accompany him? (not to instigate a rumor.. I feel he's got to have assistance.. for natalee)

[Dan]

He will have. One guy meeting him called me tonight.

[frank]

Dan,

I cannot understand how Aruba can allow him to search their island. It seems surreal like a self-help police department?

I have to believe there will be problems or is that his point? I know the order of lawyers wants to sanction certain entities from criticizing aruba.

Do you think they will attempt a blackout of anyone deemed to be in the media? Sounds like pre-Saddaam Iraq.

[Viva America]

Frank, what are you babbling about? If he wants to travel to Aruba and look on the island, who can stop him?

[Brooke]

Where are the other parts to the "Greatest fraud by the MSM on Americans"? About the lies surrounding the Holloway case.

Part one was interesting Dan.

Twitty was making the rounds again on the usual show circuit last night. Spreading yet more lies?

I was disappointed that Scarborough is obviously getting bored, no new news to hyperbole so he and the other usual suspects are back to the Holloway
non-story.

[Bene]

I am surprised no one has mentioned the Nancy Grace show where they had tapes of Deepak talking. Once agin he said all three had sex with Natalee, he also denied knowing where her body is, he said if he knew he would have already told them. I wish the investigator had asked him If he ever knew where the body was.

[FloridaPatty]

Deepak said all three of them had sex with her on tape? I missed that one.

[mona]

Dan,

I cannot understand how Aruba can allow him to search their island. It seems surreal like a self-help police department?

I have to believe there will be problems or is that his point? I know the order of lawyers wants to sanction certain entities from criticizing aruba.

Do you think they will attempt a blackout of anyone deemed to be in the media? Sounds like pre-Saddaam Iraq.

Posted by: frank | Oct 6, 2005 2:31:30 AM

If you caught it last night Frank...BTH stated she wont got back to aruba without an official escort...It appears she has made many enemies while trying to find her daughter. She is correct though..what we dont know and why we dont know it..has EVERYONE speculating not just BTH ...

[Viva America]

I am surprised no one has mentioned the Nancy Grace show where they had tapes of Deepak talking.

Posted by: Bene | Oct 6, 2005 8:08:22 AM

Who says it it Deepak? We don't actually see him talking. Could be anyone.

[Jan]

Mavbe becuz this tape is old news - 2 weeks or more ago on Dr Phil - same ole same ole - Skeeter must have made the rounds last nite - he was on every network - cut and paste - what a joke - we all did we all did - what did he ask Deepak "did you all drink" cannot believe the MSM has stooped so low as to listen and believe all the garbage the Twitts put out there!

[c]

It is the same old news. Dr. Phil had the same story. Seems like Greta needs more viewers, and BH brings more viewers to them.

But one thing I can bring it of this is that Joran is talking and if Deepak is talking (since we are not sure that really was Deepak and it was not a edited tape) seems to both are pretty confident that they have nothing to do with the disappearance of NH. Which means all that talk by Holloway family ("be a man and talk, blah blah) is going no where, because they are ready to talk.

[Brooke]

"I am surprised no one has mentioned the Nancy Grace show where they had tapes of Deepak talking."

Because no one can prove it was Deepak talking,
It could be yet another figment of Twitty's imagination.

[frank]

mona, email me.

[frank]

Posted by: Viva America | Oct 6, 2005 4:15:49 AM

this is what I'm speaking about. It appears the government is going to stop free speech in Aruba.

Order of Lawyers is of the opinion
Dutch Superior Court and Supreme Court should protect Aruba from criticism of the Natalee Holloway case
Bon Dia Aruba
10/03/2005

[pamy]

viva america--i hadnt thought of that. if my child was killed in chicago, i couldnt just rent a bulldozer and go down to the dump and start digging around. you would think that whoever owns the dump would not want everyone messing it up and maybe getting hurt. of course, other countries do not have people suing people for getting injured on their property.

[frank]

Posted by: mona | Oct 6, 2005 8:14:47 AM

She think the statements were probably destroyed. I didn't know that the FBI agent told her Natalee was probably dead in early June.

I think Aruba is trying to prevent her from entering the country which of course would be very stupid. I thought Nancy Grace was fanstastic calling out the cowardly people of Aruba.

It does seem more than a coincidence that Trautberg, van straaten and paulus are no longer in the jobs they once held.

[new2blogging]

Who says it it Deepak? We don't actually see him talking. Could be anyone.

Posted by: Viva America | Oct 6, 2005 8:29:32 AM
"I am surprised no one has mentioned the Nancy Grace show where they had tapes of Deepak talking."

Because no one can prove it was Deepak talking,
It could be yet another figment of Twitty's imagination.

Posted by: Brooke | Oct 6, 2005 10:16:04 AM

Deepak said it is him, through his atty. He claims the tape was edited, but he has no recourse against Mr. Skeeters "except to be upset about it."

[frank]

June 13 Carribean Net News

CNN's 2:00 pm report on Saturday stated that a senior police officer had told them that one of the three men arrested had confessed to killing Halloway.

Caribbean Net News contacted CNN Headline News in Atlanta who said that they have reporters on the ground in Aruba and were adamant that they are sticking by their story.

[new2blogging]

From Nancy Grace transcript:

GRACE: Eighteen-year-old Natalee Holloway went missing on her high school senior trip to Aruba. Finally, a breakthrough in the case. Deepak Kalpoe states to a private eye, not the police -- in his defense, the interview was edited, and that`s it.

I don`t have a way to take legal action against him. The only thing I can be is upset with him.

So it`s everybody`s fault but his. He had absolutely nothing to do with it. I just wanted you to see Deepak Kalpoe`s response.

[dennisintn]

all the video tapes you see on tv news are edited. they can only spare the time for the more interesting parts. this does not mean they are cut and pasted as some of you are implying.
if they showed the whole tape, there wouldn't be time for commercials, talking heads, ticklers, commercials, and commercials.

[new2blogging]

all the video tapes you see on tv news are edited. they can only spare the time for the more interesting parts. this does not mean they are cut and pasted as some of you are implying.
if they showed the whole tape, there wouldn't be time for commercials, talking heads, ticklers, commercials, and commercials.

Posted by: dennisintn | Oct 6, 2005 11:52:19 AM

Agreed. And, after hearing them again, I don't agree with other posters on here that state that the responses don't match the questions. My take is that Deepak was very comfortable with what he was saying.

I find it interesting that he had the resources to file a complaint against Beth, but now claims no resources to take action against Skeeters for something which, if it were me, I would deem much more serious if true (slander, editing the tape). The tape is real, true and clear - IMO

At any rate, if it were edited, I am sure the Aruban LE could ascertain that, so Deepak would have nothing to worry about, right? And if it was not edited, well, we will see what happens.

[MissFlorida]

Honestly I think at least ONE of those 3 had SOMETHING to do with her disappearance. And I find it hard to believe that Deepak has NO way of taking legal action against someone who edited a tape. Which leads me to believe the revisions on the tape were not to his statements. Either way, whether we ever know the truth or not, they will eventually have to face the Judge for what they have (or have not) done.

[frank]

No way any of these 4 will ever take any action. They are out of court and would have to show damages.

Why put yourself back in court, especially when you're guilty? The burden of proof is on the plaintiff.

I for Beth's sake would like to see a more aggressive strategy until Aruba and it's corrupt police force or the suspects have to respond legally. They won't for the same reason guilty people never testify at their trial.

[c]

Posted by: new2blogging | Oct 6, 2005 12:00:02 PM

can some one explain me about the legal action that Deepak can take regarding the "edited tape".

How do u take the legal action ? what it costs ?
if u donot live in US and are not US citizen, what are your rights, etc, etc

[frank]

Posted by: c | Oct 6, 2005 1:52:39 PM

He can do nothing unless it is introduced as evidence in his case.

[new2blogging]

The tape was made in Aruba. I am saying that if the tape has been edited, Deepak would have a case against Skeeters, probably for something like slander. Deepak rushed to the police station to complain about Beth's confronting him at the Internet Cafe. If he is so outraged at the fraud being perpetrated on him by Skeeters, why isn't he filing a report against him? Because the tape, and his comments, are real.

[berry]

I don't know why everyone is so disturbed by these alleged statements. Deepak (assuming it is Deepak uncut) sounds angry and childish and has said all of them had sex with Natalee. Joran says they didn't. So all that needs to be re-visited by LE is who is telling the truth? They can't both be right.

Sometimes releasing prime suspects is a good thing - especially if they are pissed off motor-mouths.

[RdWarrior]

Actually it is easier to win a slander lawsuit in Aruba than in the US. So, Deepak can sue and win...

...of course, one problem: Deep is involved w the crime. He wouldnt have been so quick to call Natalee a slut and badmouthed Beth if he didnt do it.

Heck he could have admitted to sex w Natalee w/out badmouthing her...I mean why not say "yes me and Natalee had sex...hey she is a pretty gal and we were both attracted to each other" instead of calling her "easy..a slut...her mom thinks she is goody two shoes.."

[berry]

I'd be alot comfortable with the Twittys if they would only recognize Natalee's party hearty behavior that night. Instead, they keep explaining her behaviors as being obviously drugged etc, and I really think it is more likely that she was just partying and drinking and not showing good judgment.

Because they are in denial, they put pressure on authorities to make assumptions about the facts of the case and go down roads that are not necessary to travel.

[berry]

"The tape was made in Aruba. I am saying that if he tape has been edited, Deepak would have a case against Skeeters, probably for something like slander. Deepak rushed to the police station to complain about Beth's confronting him at the Internet Cafe. If he is so outraged at the fraud being perpetrated on him by Skeeters, why isn't he filing a report against him? Because the tape, and his comments, are real."

Maybe he has.

[c]

Deepak rushed to the police station to complain about Beth's confronting him at the Internet Cafe.

Posted by: new2blogging | Oct 6, 2005 1:58:25 PM

yes, he did not have to sue her did she, the police told Beth to back off, and she did.

Do u really think skeeter dude is going back to Aruba to talk with Kalpoes, with is speaker hidden in his crouch....

[RdWarrior]

Oh by the way...something I found out (and my sources are better than Mr Riehl's.....Julia Renfro of Aruba Today is not a good source, Mr Riehl....)

Found out that Ruben Trapenberg....the "Baghdad Bob" of Aruba....seems to have an interesting friend

His friend's name is....Deepak Kalpoe!

Now I know why the Kalpoes are being covered-up for. oran it was easy to figure why he was being covered-up for.....could never understand why w Deepak and Satish...two non-white non-Dutch non-Arubans. Buddy Ruben....that is why

[c]

all that needs to be re-visited by LE is who is telling the truth? They can't both be right.
Posted by: berry | Oct 6, 2005 2:06:14 PM

both can't be right about what ?

[frank]

Posted by: new2blogging | Oct 6, 2005 1:58:25 PM

Not a chance for slander, but it would be great if he tried.

[frank]

Posted by: RdWarrior | Oct 6, 2005 2:10:50 PM

I don't buy it why the Ken doll would risk anything for no reason. Why put yourself in a liable position for Deepak and Satish unless they were pimping for Ruben?

[frank]

It's old but still relevent:

EAST GREENWICH, R.I./EWORLDWIRE/July 1, 2005 --- Rudy Croes, the Minister of Justice in Aruba, has every opportunity to question the Holloway investigation to assure that there is justice in Aruba even against the people that he did favors for and those he received favors from (the Dutch judicial officials).

Aruba is in a very difficult situation and this is not because of the American press, the Holloway case and most definitely not because of a web site by the name of "to hell with Aruba.com." Aruba is going through an extremely difficult period because of a nasty and corrupt government that owes favors to the different departments of the judicial system. The current government in Aruba, MEP has serious problems with the Dutch justice department yet they can not take a stand and voice their concerns due to the favors that they received over the years. The MEP government is maliciously leaking out information to the press about the Dutch police commissioner Jan van der Straten instead of confronting him or any other member of the justice department to ensure that there is no cover up in the investigation of the Holloway case.

The minister of justice, the political party MEP and the Dutch judges are portraying their partiality by bringing in a judge from a different Island to rule over the case yet the officials that are preparing the investigation are all friends and family of the suspect. How partial is this? Those who are preparing the investigation/case have access to all declarations, forensic reports, suspects and suspects family. Several reports by the international press have proven that the van der Sloot family is very close to the investigating team (The Dutch prosecutors office).

[new2blogging]

Do u really think skeeter dude is going back to Aruba to talk with Kalpoes, with is speaker hidden in his crouch....

Posted by: c | Oct 6, 2005 2:10:39 PM

Totally different set of circumstances. He was saying she harrassed him, filed a report, she backed off. In this case, he is saying a fraud WAS perpretrated against him. If so, offense is already committed, so why no charges????

[frank]

Posted by: new2blogging | Oct 6, 2005 3:30:45 PM

No charges because he doesn't want to go through the discovery and the publicity. No doubt his lawyer told him to shut up again.

[new2blogging]

No charges because he doesn't want to go through the discovery and the publicity. No doubt his lawyer told him to shut up again.

Posted by: frank | Oct 6, 2005 3:43:18 PM

Absolutely.

[new2blogging]

Maybe he has.

Posted by: berry | Oct 6, 2005 2:08:49 PM

He hasn't. He said he can do nothing but be upset. See his response posted above. Here it is again:

I don`t have a way to take legal action against him. The only thing I can be is upset with him.

Posted by: new2blogging | Oct 6, 2005 11:51:37 AM

[c]

No charges because he doesn't want to go through the discovery and the publicity. No doubt his lawyer told him to shut up again.

Posted by: frank | Oct 6, 2005 3:43:18 PM

Absolutely.

Posted by: new2blogging | Oct 6, 2005 3:47:01 PM

Agreed, he told him, to shut up. But that does not mean that he is guilty.......

why should he go and sue the creeter dude, when he allready has so much unnecessary headache to worry about.

[new2blogging]

Posted by: c | Oct 6, 2005 3:57:42 PM

If I was not guilty, I would be doing everything I could to clear my name, and if someone was broadcasting a falsified/edited tape of statements I allegedly made, you can be sure I'd sue him. But that's just me.

[c]

I allegedly made, you can be sure I'd sue him. But that's just me.

Posted by: new2blogging | Oct 6, 2005 4:05:51 PM

I have asked this before, and I will ask u again, what does it take to sue someone....
Explain that to me.

If u have limited amount of resources (money being one), u have to use it the right way.

Currently he has not been charged with any crime either and he is not some celebrity who has to worry about clearing his name, he knows that as the time is on his side to prove that he is not guilty.

[c]

sorry for the typos....next time I will be carefull

[don]

is it true that paulus has a sexual relationship with the prosecutor or is that just bunk!!

[frank]

Posted by: new2blogging | Oct 6, 2005 4:05:51 PM

Most people would and they would scream it and not be afraid to talk. Most innocent people wouldn't sue they would just confront the accusations.

I don't understand how Aruba still is not confronting this story. They could have full access to any feed but they can't because they have 2 bad options either we're corrupt or incompetent.

[frank]

Posted by: c | Oct 6, 2005 3:57:42 PM

exactly, it's not evidence. I still think Aruba needs to confront this story.

[new2blogging]

It doesn't cost anything to file a police report. Besides, he's paying an atty anyway, obviously, so it would not be a stretch for the atty to pursue charges against Skeeters if there were any to pursue - which there are not, simply because the tape is real and those are his words. It's all related to this same case - his attorney would want to address it if it were not real.

Well, I disagree that it is not evidence. It is not physical evidence, but it certainly is circumstantial. It's a conflicting statement from his previous statements.

[Cathy2]

is it true that paulus has a sexual relationship with the prosecutor or is that just bunk!!

Paul van der Sloot, the super stud of Aruba, good Lord; what else are we going to hear coming from that small island of no body, no case. LOL It seems Paulus has his hands and wand in all kinds of questionable activities on the island.

[frank]

Posted by: new2blogging | Oct 6, 2005 7:01:00 PM

I really hope he does file something, anything. I'm not sure if these 4 or the island could possibly be slandered, legally.