Natalee Holloway Mother Beth Twitty On Fox Tonight

Beth Twitty, mother of missing Alabama teenager Natalee Holloway appeared pensive and angry on Fox TV this evening with host Greta Van Sustern.

Stating she was returning to Aruba on November 1st, she mentioned that step one was to get the FBI involved. Host Van Sustern seemed perplexed by Beth Twitty's response. When asked by Greta what was new, Ms. Twitty reiterated that step one was getting the FBI involved and repeated allegations that Aruban authorities have not wanted to conduct a thorough investigation.

When asked about recent statements from Aruban authorities as regards interviewing Mountain Brook High School students on the trip with Natalee, Beth seemed unwilling to concede that such interviews should be conducted without the FBI, stating Aruban authorities need to use "proper" channels.

Greta also suggested that if Natalee had been intoxicated that night she would not have been able to consent to any sexual activity that might have taken place and went on to suggest that would constiture rape.

When Van Sustern asked Beth Twitty if she felt the Alabama students had been forthcoming with the FBI about details of the trip, Twitty stated that they were "excellent, top notch" students and should be capable of giving a straight forward account. She again stipulated that the FBI needed to be present for any additional interviews to take place. It's unclear if Aruban authorities, or the FBI is willing to conduct the investigation according to Beth Twitty's parameters.

Twitty ended by suggesting that the Aruban authorties continue to put up barriers to the investigation and it seemed unclear if that would change in the future.

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Comments

[Bigfish]

Thanks Dan! :)

BF

[Grady White]

Thanks Dan! :)

BF

Posted by: Bigfish | Oct 27, 2005 11:02:49 PM

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The check's in the mail? LOL!Just kidding....

[Jody]

IF Beth does go back to Aruba, you can bet she won't go anywhere near the police station. You can also bet her and Marcia are very busy reminding the students and their parents to keep their mouths shut.

[cathyc]

I saw that interview dan, "madder than a wet hen" seems more apro pos. Thanks for your dedication.

[DrTar&ProFeather]

Well, Dan, I am so glad that you saw the same interview I saw, and drew similar conclusions. I was just blasted by Grady White on discussion 255, for suggesting Beth sounded like she was not in favor of further questioning of the MB kids. I have not watched much Greta/Beth lately, and have relied on your blog to provide me with info about what's new. So hearing her with my own ears, and seeing this new, angry person demanding the FBI become involved, was a new experience for me.

[just_lurking]

I also saw the same interview, an angry one.

[Bitsey]

Where did Beth EVER get the idea that the FBI has jurisdiction over a missing person case in Aruba? The FBI will get involved in the interviews only if Aruba requests it and--now that Beth seems insistent they do as she dictates-- I doubt that they will.

[greenwing]

And why, might I ask, should it be stipulated that the FBI be present during questioning of the students?

If ALE had been notified when Natalee first was noted as missing, perhaps those "top-notch students" would have been questioned before they left Aruba since they were obviously witnesses to whatever occurred the previous evening.

Since several of them, when questioned on television, have stated that Natalee was "drinking responsibly, as we all were" that would negate Greta's conjecture of rape based on intoxication.

If the MB kids and chaperones have nothing to hide, they should have wanted to be questioned if it led to finding their classmate.

These interviews on television remind me of "a good defense is a strong offense".

[Gina]

She does not answer a question. She evades it

[pkt]

I do get the feeling that Dompig's moves have been misinterpreted by the Twitty's and even spun by those, like Dan and others, who have an agenda of turning suspicion away from the Kalpoes and Van der Sloots.

In regard to the funds and questioning the Alabaman teens, perhaps Dompig is actually NOT infering anything conspiratorial or sinister occured from that side - the Alabamans or Beth Twitty. He actually is interested in solving the case and believes sea searching needs to be intensified. Perhaps the Aruban police don't have the budget to fund more aggressive high tech searches. One could speculate Dompig thinks that Beth should stop wasting money on flying around and staying in hotels in the media campaign to find her daughter, and spend more money on high-tech searches. Right now, he is actively telling Dave Holloway and Texas Equusearch where to search. He seems to have good dialog with Dave Holloway.

Specifically in regard to the other Alabaman teens on that trip, he may be refering to conflicts in evidence from the teens over whether Natalee appeared intoxicated or over whether there was irresponsible drinking. He may need this to prove if there was a rape or consensual sex. Moreover, I also think that, if the teens haven't been forthcoming and their parents are telling them to clam up, then it is to protect them from embarassment of having the fact that they were doing drugs or sleeping around spotlighted in the national media.

[TJR]

Where did you ever get the idea that ALE has jurisdiction in the United States. If an ALE representative knocked at my door and asked to speak to my child, I would simply laugh at him and close the door. Dan’s statement that “Beth seemed unwilling to concede that such interviews should be conducted without the FBI, stating Aruban authorities need to use "proper" channels” proves one thing. She is a lot smarter than he is.

[Dan]

Dan’s statement that “Beth seemed unwilling to concede that such interviews

Yes, America First - Natalee whenever. Congrats on your patriotism.

[pkt]

"Where did you ever get the idea that ALE has jurisdiction in the United States."

They don't need jurisdiction to ask questions. They don't need to use "proper" channels either. They can request an opportunity to ask questions, and the Alabaman teens can refuse.

Moreover, remember they aren't children and not adults. Permission from the parents is not required.

[k.jeanne]

I think Beth has to walk the "middle line" concerning the MB kids being interview by Aruba. She cannot say anything derogatory or reproachful about the kids, or she will have their parents unhappy, and the kids refusing to talk. She cannot sanction any thing that isn't in the most legal and protective interest of the kids. I certainly understand why she qualified her comments.

[luckycharms]

"Yes, America First - Natalee whenever. Congrats on your patriotism."

I feel the same way about dan lol.... don't come crying ...

[luckycharms]

Ptk that has little to do with kiddnapping and or murder....
Partying or having sex is no reason for the other or you'd be dead long ago.

[nelson]

If you have nothing to hide the MB should have no problem answering questions the LE have for them, the ALE just want to put all the pieces together so they can have a better picture of all this.
Now Beth is going on the defensive again with the excellent top notch student, enough with that crap allready.

[Bitsey]

>>Where did you ever get the idea that ALE has jurisdiction in the United States. If an ALE representative knocked at my door and asked to speak to my child, I would simply laugh at him and close the door. Dan’s statement that “Beth seemed unwilling to concede that such interviews should be conducted without the FBI, stating Aruban authorities need to use "proper" channels” proves one thing. She is a lot smarter than he is.
Posted by: TJR | Oct 27, 2005 11:33:19 PM<<

I never said ALE has jurisdiction in the US. I said they have jurisdiction over the CASE. Anyone who refuses to cooperate will be thrown onto a suspect list and the U.S. law enforcement are more than happy to "assist" in such investigation.

[kin]

If you saw 'Rita Cosby'tonight you'd know Dompig said he had a 5 hour talk with the FBI today by phone. They discussed interviewing the MB kids (not for the reasons many belive) and they ended up agreeing it may be BEST to handle it exactly how Beth said she feels it should go down on Greta's show. Imagine that!

Dompig also repeated what he's been saying (at least in the media here) all along about the "SUSPECTS". He even called them "LIARS" again (why is it ok for him but not the Twitty's?) and contrary to what I've read here, or on HyScience, or what he may have said in Aruba, not a damn thing has changed. He confirmed they're still the MAIN focus of this investigation. Now we know, through him, the FBI agrees with him on this 100%.

[Shonane]

Since several of them, when questioned on television, have stated that Natalee was "drinking responsibly, as we all were" that would negate Greta's conjecture of rape based on intoxication.

If the MB kids and chaperones have nothing to hide, they should have wanted to be questioned if it led to finding their classmate.

Posted by: greenwing
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I thought Gretas comments were very revealing. On one hand Beth wants to say that Natalee was too intoxicated to consent to anything, going in and out of consciousness, and on the other her classmates have said she was drinking responsibly and not very intoxicated. Greta's comments made it clear that whether or not Natalee was drunk was critical to supporting Beth's claims about a sexual assault (and I though also a kidnapping as Beth has claimed.) Beth had a reaction to this. Cannot have it both ways.

[Bitsey]

>>They don't need jurisdiction to ask questions. They don't need to use "proper" channels either. They can request an opportunity to ask questions, and the Alabaman teens can refuse.

Moreover, remember they aren't children and not adults. Permission from the parents is not required.
Posted by: pkt | Oct 27, 2005 11:42:03 PM<<

fyi: Alabama's court system considers 18 and over to be adults, not juveniles.

[katya]

>>Where did you ever get the idea that ALE has jurisdiction in the United States. If an ALE representative knocked at my door and asked to speak to my child, I would simply laugh at him and close the door. Dan’s statement that “Beth seemed unwilling to concede that such interviews should be conducted without the FBI, stating Aruban authorities need to use "proper" channels” proves one thing. She is a lot smarter than he is.
Posted by: TJR | Oct 27, 2005 11:33:19 PM<<

Why would you do that? Don't you want to assist the investigation? What do you have to hide?

Guess that is the same way that Paul VdS felt about his kid, too. But for him some feel that is proof of guilt.

[lotusjani]

Where did you ever get the idea that ALE has jurisdiction in the United States. If an ALE representative knocked at my door and asked to speak to my child, I would simply laugh at him and close the door. Dan’s statement that “Beth seemed unwilling to concede that such interviews should be conducted without the FBI, stating Aruban authorities need to use "proper" channels” proves one thing. She is a lot smarter than he is.

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THANK YOU! THe FBI should be involved, the questioning will take place in America, not Aruba, and it's nobody's business what Beth Twitty does with the money, she is looking and searching for her child, anyway she can. She is the one that lost her daughter, not these morons that are thinking money!

[nursemind]

Twitty ended by suggesting that the Aruban authorties continue to put up barriers to the investigation and it seemed unclear if that would change in the future.

What barriers??? Seems like they're working hard to solve this case. Is she ever happy with anything done for her?

[George]

... it's nobody's business what Beth Twitty does with the money, she is looking and searching for her child ...

Posted by: lotusjani | Oct 28, 2005 1:18:46 AM

Since Beth Twity has solicited money from public under pretense of "searching for her child", the matter how money is spent is not her own business. Since it appears that she does not spend them as purported, it suggests that she has collected money by deception of public. This may be a crime for which she is subject to indictment.

[jrn]

So what the f else is new? When is anyone going to finally get a grip on this bullchit?

Dan, pardon me, but I think it's about time that you dropped this boring Twitty chit in bringing people up to date on actually NOTHING! The world is tired, sick and tired of this. When you stop blogging it, the nutso's won't have anything to get nutso about anymore. Sounds like a win-win situation to me?

[Aunt Em]

OMG - what a difference a week makes. Is there an election coming up or something?

[BamaRN]

Hi Bitsey,

You hit the nail right on the head.
Aruba has total and complete jurisdiction over this case from start to finish regardless if Beth and her supporters,The FBI, the MB kis, the MB kids parents or whoever else like's it or not!

There is a very simple way for the Aruba LE to force the MB kids to comply and that is for them to obtain an arm load of subpoena's from a judge from the World Court System for ALL the MB kids and the chaperones and anyone else from Alabama who was in Aruba during the same time frame Natalee and the other MB kids were there to appear before the Aruba court's and Aruba LE to answer questions, and if they refuse to answer the questions throw their behind's in jail for contempt of court like they do here in the USA until they are ready to talk!

The FBi has absolutely no jurisdiction in this case whatsoever. The Aruba LE does not have to let the FBI or anyone else for that matter be a part of this case.

I guess the main reason that Beth wants the FBI involved is because she know's that they dont have one lick of jurisdiction in this case.

Beth refuse's to accept the simple fact that the Aruban authorities "Are The Proper Channels" and she better wake up and comply with the Aruba LE and try to actually help the Aruba authorities if she ever wants this case to be resolved.
Maybe that's the whole point...she dont want this case resolved unless she can hang Joran and the Kalpoe brothers by the testicals until death for something they may be innocent of.

I find it really strange that one or more of the MB kids saw Natalee back at the hotel After being with Joran, but Beth and many other's refuse to accept this reported fact from the MB kids, and Beth knows that there was evidence in Natalee's room that she did indeed return to her room after being with Joran.

The whole problem with this case in the first place is Beth and her posse have tried to dictate how the Aruba LE was going to run this investigation from the moment they arrived in Aruba. And the only thing Beth and her posse have managed to do is butt-in and interfere with the investigation and she is still trying to dictate how this investigation is going to be run.

She bellyaches and complains cause the Aruba prosecutor refuse's to communicate with her yet every time some important information was shared with her, the first thing Beth does is run for the nearest TV camera and tell's the world the information that was supposed to remain highly confidential which renders the information she was told totally useless for court use.

If I were the Aruba LE or the Prosecutor I would read Beth the riot act and tell her to keep her mouth shut and start fully cooperating WITH the investigators and stop trying to dictate and run the investigation,and if she did not comply I would simply withdraw from the case and inform her that she can continue to investigate the case by herself the best way she could at her own expense.

I would also inform her that while she is welcome in Aruba to look for her daughter, she will be under court order not to give news media reports or TV interviews of any type at any time while she is a guest visiting Aruba. If Beth did not want to comply with any of these simple court ordered rules, then she would not be granted entry into Aruba.

I would also inform Beth that if you or anyone of your other representives stalk or try intimidate or make any type of contact with the three suspects or any of their family member's she would be arrested and serve 2 to 5 years jail time and then be expelled out of Aruba and never be granted entry into Aruba again ever.

[JustMe]

BamaRN -- excellent post! As I read the "latest" from Twitty, I kept wondering why Aruban LE doesn't hit Mountain Brook with subpoena power. That would be a "proper channel",if possible, in my opinion. Make the partyers and chaperones go back to Aruba and let ALE deal with them on home turf.

If Mountain Brook has nothing to hide...why not voluntarily do what they can to help find Natalee? That group should have been jumping through hoops to assist ALE from the get-go.

[BamaRN]

Hi Shonane,
Yes Gretas comments were indeed very revealing.

I would have to go back and read transcripts and look at video interview tapes, but I am pretty certain in the very first few interviews that Beth made she stated: that she knew for a fact that Natalee was a virgin when she went to Aruba and she then stated that she knew for a fact that the three suspects drugged,kidnapped,raped and murdered Natalee.

In the Next interviews Beth would change the word rape to sexual assault or she would use the phrase they committed sexual acts against Natalee.

In the next sets of interviews Beth added the phrase they committed sexual assault against Natalee while she was going in and out of consciousness.

Beth keeps changing information around in her statements.

As far as the statement from Natalee's classmates, there are at least two or three different versions to each of their statements as well.

In one of the very firts interviews with one of Natalee's friends she stated that Natalee drank alot and was very intoxicated and appeared very tipsy.

In another interview several days later another female classmate stated that Natalee was drinking "responsibly as they all were" and Natalee was not very intoxicated.

In another interview a week later the same female in the first interview who stated that Natalee drank alot and was very intoxicated and very tipsy stated that Natalee only had one drink and was not intoxicated.

You are very correct, Beth and Natalee's classmates cannot have it both ways.

I think all the contradictory statements from Natalee's classmates was the primary reason they were told not to talk cause Beth and her spin masters did not want the real truth as to what Natalee was doing and how she was acting and what actually happened to Natalee in Aruba to be revealed.

I dont understand why Beth refuses to accept the fact that at least one to four different classmates of Natalee saw her return to the hotel AFTER she was with Joran at the beach, and Beth knows that there was evidence in Natalee's room that she did return back to the room after being with Joran. The big question is...what happened to Natalee After she returned to the hotal??

[BamaRN]

Hi Shonane,
Yes Gretas comments were indeed very revealing.

I would have to go back and read transcripts and look at video interview tapes, but I am pretty certain in the very first few interviews that Beth made she stated: that she knew for a fact that Natalee was a virgin when she went to Aruba and she then stated that she knew for a fact that the three suspects drugged,kidnapped,raped and murdered Natalee.

In the Next interviews Beth would change the word rape to sexual assault or she would use the phrase they committed sexual acts against Natalee.

In the next sets of interviews Beth added the phrase they committed sexual assault against Natalee while she was going in and out of consciousness.

Beth keeps changing information around in her statements.

As far as the statement from Natalee's classmates, there are at least two or three different versions to each of their statements as well.

In one of the very firts interviews with one of Natalee's friends she stated that Natalee drank alot and was very intoxicated and appeared very tipsy.

In another interview several days later another female classmate stated that Natalee was drinking "responsibly as they all were" and Natalee was not very intoxicated.

In another interview a week later the same female in the first interview who stated that Natalee drank alot and was very intoxicated and very tipsy stated that Natalee only had one drink and was not intoxicated.

You are very correct, Beth and Natalee's classmates cannot have it both ways.

I think all the contradictory statements from Natalee's classmates was the primary reason they were told not to talk cause Beth and her spin masters did not want the real truth as to what Natalee was doing and how she was acting and what actually happened to Natalee in Aruba to be revealed.

I dont understand why Beth refuses to accept the fact that at least one to four different classmates of Natalee saw her return to the hotel AFTER she was with Joran at the beach, and Beth knows that there was evidence in Natalee's room that she did return back to the room after being with Joran. The big question is...what happened to Natalee After she returned to the hotal??

[Shell]

Excellent reporting Dan. As usual, you are one of the few to not be under the spell of Mrs. Twitty and her worshippers. It is unfathomable how power-crazed she has become, now demanding the terms of a foreign power's investigation. There's something rotten in the town of Mountain Brook, and all the secrecy is disturbing, not just to Arubans, but, more and more Americans are waking up to how absurd this situation has gotten. Poor Natalee deserves better than this. Her own mom and stepdad have honestly hurt the investigation, while her father has dug in landfills and spent all his own resources trying to put together searchers. I don't think it's unreasonable for Dompig, or all of us who donated, to wonder where those millions have gone? I think the Twitty family should be investigated, and every last kid on the trip should be questioned. I don't care if it's by the FBI, but, I don't like the way the Twittys put parameters on what they could say, in the first place. With rumors that Marcia twitty confiscated all their cameras and processed the pictures, it sends even more ominous signals to how severely this investigation has been damaged by this family. I am certain that they were looking for any jello shot belly pics, or even worse, the kind of "Girl's Gone Wild" pics that a normal 18 year old finally liberated from her coached stepfather and oppressive mother, would feel uninhibited enough to pose for.

Poor Natalee deserves so much better than the travesty this case has become, and mainly because her mom and stepdad are control freaks, who have bullied the wrong people. They may have become media stars, but, they are despised in Aruba, and that is where the truth will emerge. They have undermined any chance of finding Natalee, and ruined the hard work Dave Holloway has done, along with his good rapport with the ALE and people of Aruba.

Beth and Jug may be grieving, and I wouldn't trade places with them, but, after five months of inconsistencies, and their abundant lies, manipulations, games, and lust for power, even trying to punish Aruba by instituting a boycott, they are the epitome of the ugly Americans. their ignorance, xenophobia, prejudice and horrendous behavior and lies are the reason the name of their precious daughter is now like a curse to the Arubans. How dare they do that to their daughter who they claim to love? They've made a mockery of this, obsessing over her virginity and private parts. They make me sick. I really have little sympathy for them, at all.

The only people who have my respect are Dave and his family, as well as Dompig.

The Twittys have the perfect name, imo. They have lived up to their monikers, especially their nicknames and last names. Hootie and Jughead. What a pair.

[sam]

It is common practice for foriegn police depts to help eachother out, this was seen in the Honeymoon death cruise ship murder. Turkish officials handed all of their information and gave the FBI jurisdiction over the investigation. This is common practice between allied countries, such as the usa and THE NETHERLANDS (INCLUDING ARUBA). The only reasons why Aruba is so reluctant to work with the FBI are (1) there was a coverup or (2) they would be embarrassed by the gross mismanagement of thier inverstigation.

[BamaRN]

Hello JustMe,

Thanks for your kind words.
I agree 100 percent with your post also.

You are very correct, everyone of the MB kids and the chaperones need to be hauled back to Aruba so the Aruban LE can deal with them on their own home turf!

I find it really strange that the chaperones got all of the Mountain Brook kids on the planes and off the island heading for Alabama before they notified the Aruban police that Natalee was missing to prevent the Aruba LE from conducting interviews with the MB kids. For whatever reason,someone made the decision they wanted all the MB kids off the island as fact as possible and not talking to the Aruba LE for any reason.

[BamaRN]

Hi Shell,
That was an excellent post and I agree with you 100 percent.

[Dreamquestrob]

No one ever seems to know, but they post dollar amounts that grow by leaps and bounds.

Posted by: iwabwu | Oct 27, 2005 9:31:48 PM
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Yes... for some reason that amoung seems to have been I-N-F-L-A-T-E-D quite a bit -- Seems to me that the last I heard that is was like 2 million... I could be wrong but the SOURCE of the so-called 20 million should be cited....
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Juast a note for the Aruban committee assigned to stir things up here -- and you know who you are -- I think you are missing out on some really good future business.

You know, back during WWII the tobacco companies figured out a good marketing strategy all in the name of patriotism. That was to donate cigarettes to the military rations shipments. It got good press coverage and lots of people applauded this "selfless" patriotic gesture and gift.

What happened was those GIs got thier rations and subesquently started smoking because the cigarettes were free. This meant that millions of troops got hooked on cigarettes.

When they came home they brought the habit with them. REPEAT buyers they became. Ane, it had a generational effect -- parents were models for their children and so when the children grew up many of them also took up smoking -- the tobacco addcition rates skyrocketed just becuase of the peaceful gestures.

Well, we all learn from history...

What we see here is so much posting of poison by the same repeat posters over and over again that do everything possible to cast everything in a negative light.

Now the targets are the MB kids.

For three years the MB kids have been lured and coaxed by the Aruban paradise dream machine that they have brought their senior fling to Aruba and up to this year's tragedy have had a good time.

And, even with the tragedy I assume that some of the students were impressed enoguh to want to return some day (like the returning GI's -- to spend real money as adult profiessionals, etc.)

But -- to be denounced as on here as being "suspects" will probably kill the chances of any of these kids ever wanting to have anything to do with Aruba again. It's one thing to cooperate with law enforcement -- which they have been doing with the FBI, but quite another to suddenly be being accused as the suspects themselves.

This action of disinformation and slander will probably kill your chances of luring them back in the future -- as well as any returning MB party -- plus, It will in no doubts impact in a negative manner attracting any other large groups of studlents -- both high school and college -- from attending as well....

In addition --- as long as this controversy persists it is bound to hit the U.S. Department of State Travelers Advisory which has advisories on every country in the world. The last advisory on Aruba was in December of 2004 so it is about to be updated. All U.S. Citizens are provided this information when they recieve their passports and they are advised to check this for updates before departing for any county. I am an international travelor and I can tell you that you are foolish if you are from the US and if you do not check the travel advisories so that you understand the safety and precautions necessary.

Here is what the December 2004 has to say about Aruba:

CRIME: Street crime is low, but there have been incidents of theft from hotel rooms. Armed robbery has been known to occur. Valuables left unattended on beaches, in cars and in hotel lobbies are easy targets for theft.

Car theft, including that of rental vehicles for joy riding and stripping, can occur. Vehicle leases or rentals may not be fully covered by local insurance when a vehicle is stolen or damaged. Be sure you are sufficiently insured when renting vehicles and jet skis. For more information see the section below entitled “Special Circumstances.”

INFORMATION FOR VICTIMS OF CRIME: The loss or theft abroad of a U.S. passport should be reported immediately to the local police and the nearest U.S. Embassy or Consulate. If you are the victim of a crime while overseas, in addition to reporting to local police, please contact the nearest U.S. Embassy or Consulate for assistance. The Embassy/Consulate staff can, for example, assist you to find appropriate medical care, to contact family members or friends and explain how funds could be transferred. Although the investigation and prosecution of the crime is solely the responsibility of local authorities, consular officers can help you to understand the local criminal justice process and to find an attorney if needed. Posts in countries that have victims of crime assistance programs should include that information.

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis_pa_tw_1168.html
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That being said -- I believe you make your resort community more attractive with honey than poison. Your effort to help neutralize the negative publicity should be to match it with positives. For some reason it never seems to work out well when you use a negative campaign to overcome negative publicity -- it turns people off and like a viper it can catch you from behind.

As an International travelor I would beseech you to promote the goodness that is in the hearts of the Aruban people and business community and stop trying to bury "the other side"... the reason being is that this is turning against you world-wide. When other travelors see how you treat people when they travel to your country to enojoyr your hospitality and how you handle crisis on behalf of your guests -- then that says it all. Why go someplace if you are going to potentially place yourself or your loved ones in danger.

I realize there are extremists on the other side too -- but you as a committee need to start using "positive spin" to counteract the negatives, rather than "destroy spin" to meet them.

In the past I have very much wanted to visit your country. I was hoping to include it in my travels in the next year or too. But -- after witnessing what I have seen here from the so-called grassroots, or the so called "committee" -- I have decided to place this on hold until I see what comes out in the end.

You have a public relations nightmare and I do not envy you -- but most certainly you don't want the travel advisory to be saying something like you see in the Philippines, a country I recently visited:

"The Department urges Americans who choose to travel to the Philippines to observe vigilant personal security precautions...Americans should carefully consider the risks of travel to the Philippines. Numerous security-related incidents highlight the risk of travel in certain areas due to kidnappings...Be wary of unknown individuals who attempt to befriend you, especially just after you have arrived in country. A number of recent robberies and assaults involving the “date rape drug” (known locally as Ativan) have occurred; the drug is generally administered to unwitting male and female visitors via food or drink. It is best not to accept food, drink or rides in private vehicles from strangers, even if they appear legitimate. There have been several kidnappings and violent assaults of foreigners in the Metro Manila area..."

Point is -- this could be a similar entry for Aruba in the future. This is just common sense... Pleaes do all you can to continue in your good efforts to find Natalee and to solve this case. Please stop the negative street roller tactics being used by those who make you look bad and start promoting all the GOOD your country and resorts have. Remember the honey, forget the the vinegar and the poison...

Law Enforcement is doing its job (this is for the benefit of both sides of this issue to see)... We are not privy as the general public to see or know all that they have because they have an "ongoing" investigation and they do not want to jeopardize the case.

The Aruban people are good people and gracious and have opened their homes, hearts, and hospitality to this effort.

The Americans who want to find Natalee are good people who have suffered an unspeakable loss -- and they have a backswell of public empathy. The silent majority in this country has always ruled -- and I can tell you from the discussion I have had with people who do not know much about the case that they are disgusted with this negative stuff. Victim and victim family bashing in this country never has set well with the general public (silent majority) even when there are the occasions that the victims family might be involved. It is better to focus on finding Natalee than on trying to blame her family -- or now her friends.

Posted by: Dreamquestrob | Oct 28, 2005 3:56:59 AM

[George]

Beth and her spin masters did not want the real truth as to ... what actually happened to Natalee in Aruba to be revealed.

I dont understand why Beth refuses to accept the fact that at least one to four different classmates of Natalee saw her return to the hotel AFTER she was with Joran at the beach, and Beth knows that there was evidence in Natalee's room that she did return back to the room after being with Joran.

Posted by: BamaRN | Oct 28, 2005 3:38:51 AM

I can't see how you "don't understand" right after you've noted WHY. :-) Meanwhile, I would appreciate non-message-board sources telling that Natalee has been seen returned to the hotel. Thank you.

[Dreamquestrob]

I dont understand why Beth refuses to accept the fact that at least one to four different classmates of Natalee saw her return to the hotel AFTER she was with Joran at the beach, and Beth knows that there was evidence in Natalee's room that she did return back to the room after being with Joran.

Posted by: BamaRN | Oct 28, 2005 3:38:51 AM

cite your source please...

[Steve]

Dan-

The only legitimate explanation for what's going on is that Dompig made a decision not to trick Skeeters (or anybody else)into going to Aruba to answer some "routine" questions.

Skeeters can't complain about Dompig making him the public example of a hurdle this investigation would have to face. It would be indimidating if an MBHS student walked into an Aruban police station to resolve this "toothbrush" issue (and under Dutch law, this has the same secrecy as answering a grand jury's questions about the toothbrush). ALE couldn't look like it's conspiring with the FBI to sweep defense issues under the rug, but everybody would have to be "on the same page" as Dave would say- and it would have to be credible that the police pursued these routine issues, before focusing again on interrogating these suspects.

Maybe you can figure out if this is about the defense bringing up gaps in the police file, and the Judges putting the burden on Dompig to prove he could stand up to this pressure not to pursue certain issues.

[Steve]

p.s. Sorry about the obvious spell check issues in my previous post. Proofread, proofread, proofread!

[bizman]

I am glad that I missed BT's show last night.She is becoming increasingly unbearable to watch and listen to.

I did catch Jughead on Rita Cosby.Jug looked like a convict with the backdrop that was used for the interview.The only thing missing was the prisoner numbers around his neck and the yardstick to measure the height.

Jug called Paulus a poor excuse of a human being.The same could be said with more accuracy about Jug himself.

You bet he is not going back to Aruba as he has been in the KIA jail to visit Joran and he does not want to spend a night in that jail.Jug is not even worthy of being interviewed as he is so full of hatred and venom all because the silver platter that he provided to ALE has been thrown in the garbage.

Jug is such a BIG MAN who is too scared to be questioned.I wonder what it is that he is afraid of????

[Arubaanse]

well, i can understand why beth is angry. I mean her child is been missing for about 5 months now in a foreign country and she doesn't understand our dutch law and their isn't a good communication between her and the ALE

[mc]

If there are no real suspects left in this case and theMB kids are supposed to "do everyting they can" or " tell all", then I suggest the 3 original suspects have yet to do the same thing. They DID leave with a now missing girl and they DID lie to the police. There is no speculation aobut that. Has one of the suspects offered to take a lie test to cooberate a story? not that I am aware of. I think the focus should remain on the 3 liars.

[chip]

i have to admit i am concerned about the continued confrontational attitude showed last night.........

if dompig is trying to take a fresh look at things why not give it a chance? i don't think it did much good to keep bringing up the early stages of the investigation........it is no longer june & van der stratton is long gone.

i think beth will be well served at this time NOT to got to the media & bash aruban law enforcement.as much as she would like she cannot direct the investigation.if the attitude showed last night is a preview of what is to come......i think this could get even more ugly
i think jug's comments about paulus van der sloot last night were over the line last night
this is the first time i have ever been critical of them on this board.......but i really think this aggressive attitude is harming any chance of a relationship with dompig & is causing them to lose sympathy here in the u.s.........

it's time for a media blackout & let this run it's course for awhile JMO

[bizman]

well, i can understand why beth is angry. I mean her child is been missing for about 5 months now in a foreign country and she doesn't understand our dutch law and their isn't a good communication between her and the ALE

Posted by: Arubaanse | Oct 28, 2005 5:44:42 AM

That would be Beth's fault that there is no longer direct communication to her.She runs her mouth 90 to nothing and still manages to not say anything of any importance.

[berry]

Dompig is still selling the trio as the prime suspects, because they are. What do you think he's been doing since day one? Without LE backing up the theory, the prosecutor could never have argued efficiently to keep Joran locked up for 3 months. He's saying what he has to say - and probably believes.

But if anyone thinks this new urgency to interview the students is a mere excercise, get a grip. They are going to be interviewd because they may have answers.

While it is possible those answers further tighten the LE noose around the trios' necks, it is far more likely a noose will tighten around one or more of the student's necks.

BT is an obstructionist. She may be a distressed mom and God knows what I would act like - but her behavior and protocol demands are inappropriate. In addition, the constant slandering of the trio and Paulus is disturbing.

Knowing that Dompig wants to talk to her, BT should have gone back weeks ago. Now she defers the task another week and there is still no guarantee she will go.

What prevents this?

[Lisa11011]

The actions of both Beth & Jug are not normal and this has been from day one!!!!

Per Beth last night, the FBI has not been involved since the beginning. Sooooo then how did they interview the kids!!?? The interviews do not exist!!!

I do not understand how she feels her parameters must be met before Aruba can interview the kids. Why are you proctecting these kids!!??

I took Beth's interview last night to bring up the past and get her activists rallied up again!! This way when Nov 1st comes, everyone will forget she is suppose to be in Aruba talking with the Police, cause she will not!!!!

[medivac]

I wish Greta and Rita would ask the simple question of Beth:

"If your daughter is not dead, what is your greatest fear of where she may be?"

Then let Beth say the words......I'm petrified she has been traded into the human trade market!"

Then I would hope Greta and Rita would show pieces from the recent 4-hour program that showed what happens in this market.

That I think is why Beth and Dave are so driven to find their daughter, in any way they can. They are not so frightened she is dead.......but more frightened she has been sold into the slave market as a gambling debt. If they can find her body it almost would be a relief, I'm sure of it.

I know the possibility was touched on briefly one night on TV, but let's get real here. Let's bring the facts here. It is a very big possibility that is what happened to Natalee.

Our young adults even here in the United States are ending up as victims........BEING PICKED UP RIGHT OFF OUR STREETS IN AMERICA......and being sold for body parts and also into the sex slave business.

Wake up you all, your child could be next, and it may not even happen in Aruba. Read about all the young adults who have disappeared up in Wisconsin, North Dakota, Minnisota. One after another after another are going missing for no good reason-----never to be heard from again.

Well, there is a huge market for livers, hearts, skin, and other organs in South America and all over the world. And people are being abducted and sold for these parts.
Sex slaves bring a constant income as those victims are "sold" over and over again.

It's grusome and dispicable,,, but it is reality.

So get off Beth's back. And while you are at it, educate your children and teens to be aware, be very aware. The world is not such a nice place right now.

[berry]

"For three years the MB kids have been lured and coaxed by the Aruban paradise dream machine that they have brought their senior fling to Aruba and up to this year's tragedy have had a good time."

That's ridiculous, IMO. Where is that information coming from? I'm nowhere near AL and know many people, including young people, who examine a number of attractive locations to visit and chose Aruba. No one lured them anywhere.

[bizman]

So get off Beth's back. And while you are at it, educate your children and teens to be aware, be very aware. The world is not such a nice place right now.

Posted by: medivac | Oct 28, 2005 6:50:48 AM

Sure would have been a good thing if Beth had educated Natalee to the dangers of the world.You know she had such an impeccable record and so responsible.YADA,YADA,YADA,Beth is so full of shit and so is anyone who buys into her failed tour of motherhood.