It appears that they did not play the entire interview tape in Current Affair's recent interview with Dutch murder suspect, Joran Van Der Sloot. I had heard previous reports from Aruba that perhaps Natalee wasn't as thrilled with things at home as she might have been and was somewhat upset that last night on the beach.
Likely the pressures of change, going off to college and having had perhaps a bit too much to drink contributed to her mood. However, not until I read the full transcript of the Current Affair interview at scrux did I realize Joran had gone on record with a statement which could be interpreted to mean Natalee wasn't completely thrilled with things at home.
Reporter: What did she tell you? That you can remember.
Joran van der Sloot: She told me a lot of things. One thing she told me was that her mother was Hitler's sister's daughter. I don?t know what she was talking, a lot of strange things. She told me she wanted to go to the light house and see sharks, which we never went to. But, I don?t know, she talked a lot of things. Obviously, she was drunk. I had stuff to drink too. Now, I don?t respect that the Aruban authority tried to pin that it was a rape case. She wanted to go with me. I wanted to go with her. It was totally consensual. I had something to drink. She had something to drink. And, I just don't think it is fair that people, that they even held me three months, because, the fact is, that in the United States they would not even... they never would've even been allowed to arrest me. The Dutch system works in the way that, you can be arrested on suspicion. In the United States, you need hard evidence. There is not one evidence in this case that shows something bad happened. I have never touched a girl in an aggressive way in my life. There is not one girl that went forward and said otherwise. And, I only have good declarations in my name, so.
In other statements:
Joran van der Sloot: I am not covering for them at all. And, I would not cover for them in such a big case with so many people got involved. My dad got arrested, which is absolutely ridiculous. I feel horrible, too, for Steve in Aruba, the DJ from Tattoo, because all he was trying to do was really help Deepak, like, providing us an alibi. I feel bad for him that he got arrested. I also think that it is ridiculous that my best friend, Freddy Sudam got arrested. I think it is for taking a picture of a girl in a bikini. It is really sad.
Joran van der Sloot: I had school the next day. And I did go to school the next day. And I did go to school the day after. And it's just I had to go home, I had to go to sleep. Yeah, when I got home, I went on the internet. I talked to Deepak for a while. So, the police could see exactly what time I got home. They can see it's obvious, if someone were to read the thing, it is almost impossible that a crime was committed.
Reporter: But, when you left her on the beach, she was sitting on the sand?
Joran van der Sloot: Yeah
Reporter: Which way was she facing? Was she facing towards the ocean?
Joran van der Sloot: She was facing towards the ocean. And before that, I had been laying with her at the beach. And she was facing towards the ocean when I left her.
Reporter: You were laying on the beach like how? Cuddling on the beach?
Joran van der Sloot: Yeah, cuddling.
Reporter: And then what happened? You said I have got to go home, because I have to get up for class tomorrow?
Joran van der Sloot: Uh... I told her I had to go home. I had school the next day, and I thought, maybe she'd understand. She told me, "No,." she wanted me to stay there with her. Because, the next day she was leaving. She wanted to stay there the whole night. I told her, "No," I had to go. I even lifted her up to carry her back to her hotel. And she told me, put her down.I left her there. I sat down and I started talking to her for a while. And I called Deepak, to ask him if he could come and pick me up, which Deepak didn?t do. but?
Reporter: was she angry?
Joran van der Sloot: She wasn't ... she wasn't angry. If anything she was probably more.. I don't know... upset that I was leaving her there. And, I don't know what reaction she had. I don't know
Reporter: How did you feel when you left her?
Joran van der Sloot: Well, at the time, I didn?t... I didn't feel it was a bad idea. At the time, I really didn?t. It didn?t seem wrong. It didn't seem... Of course, now I look back at it and I think, "Damn, I was... I'm an asshole. What did I do?" But, there is nothing I can do now. If I could have the moment back, I would make sure that she got back to her hotel safely. But, I can't change that now.
Reporter: Ok. What is the worst thing you think you have done since this all started?
Joran van der Sloot: The worst thing I did was leaving her there at the beach. That is the worst thing, possible thing, I could've done and then lie about it to try and make myself not look bad I guess.
Reporter: And why did you do that?
Joran van der Sloot: Well, I didn?t really think something bad happened to her and I don?t think anyone in Aruba did. It is the truth. Tourists come to Aruba to have a good time and sometimes they don?t show up for a night or two and then they come back to their hotel. I thought that was the case. The local police thought that probably also thought that was the case. And, I just always hoped that she would just show up. And that is, yeah.
Reporter: What went through your mind when she didn?t show up?
Joran van der Sloot: Well, when she didn?t show up for the first couple of days, I was like, "Ok, but, you know, maybe, she's still with someone else." Then, after a while, cause there was 7 days, in between, when we gave our first witness statement and we were arrested, and I was just thinking I thought about going to the police and telling them the truth. But, I really couldn't, because I'd lied to everybody. I lied to my parents, I lied to my friends and (shrugs).
Reporter: So, you are saying that lying was your worst crime?
Joran van der Sloot: Yeah.
Reporter: Now, lying is a crime isn?t it? When you interfere with a police investigation?
Joran van der Sloot: Lying.. I don?t think lying is a crime. Lying is probably not ethical, but it is not a crime.
Reporter: If you interfere with a police investigation?
Joran van der Sloot: If you interfere with a police investigation it is still not a crime.
Reporter: Maybe here in Holland? You are saying you admit that you are a liar that night. You admit that you lied and and I think?. some people say that, I mean, you are admitting that you are lying, but you are doing a lot more than that. you have done worse things than that.
Joran van der Sloot: And, I would like for someone to come up and tell me if there is anything worse I did, because, I have never touched a girl in an aggressive way in my life. Never, and there is no one that can come forward and say otherwise. And yeah, I just feel bad for everything that happened. I feel bad for Natalee?s family. I feel bad for my family. I feel bad for Deepak and Satish?s family. And I feel bad for everyone that has suffered because of all of this.
Reporter: Since you are coming forward now to some degree, did you have sex with her that night?
Joran van der Sloot: First of all, that is none of your business.
Reporter: It is just a question.
Joran van der Sloot: But, it is absolutely none of your business.
Reporter: Did anything else happened that night?
Joran van der Sloot:No. Well, yes, I kissed with her. but., neither did Deepak or Satish ever had sex with her and no one ever said otherwise. I saw a tape from Deepak on TV saying something, which makes absolutely no sense. I think that tape was edited. I think people cut and pasted these pieces. I am sure about that, cause it didn?t even sound like Deepak?s voice. But, not me, not Deepak or Satish had sex with her and that is in all the documents. And none of us had ever said anything like that. and yeah I just think it is sad how Natalee?s mom comes forward and starts saying things against us that don?t make sense and are not true.
Read the whole thing.
Like I'd believe anything that Juran said.....I mean he has such a great track record!
Posted by: greenangel | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 03:06 PM
Very enlighning indeed,
I imagina that the phrase: no body, no case will live on in pop culture just as the mother of all wars lives on but the context of the phrase will fade away.
MJM
Posted by: MJM | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 03:07 PM
Monkeys dont allow different opinions
If you bring up Beths different stories they ban you...
Guess they are worried about the spoiled koolaid or mixing up a new batch
Posted by: dada | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 03:09 PM
Bizman,
Of course it is... I will humor you though it was on the email circuit a long time ago. But from what I have read of your posts you seem to be pretty much anti Holloways anyway. So who the hell cares
Posted by: Tom | Oct 14, 2005 3:01:24 PM
Long time ago...as in before the case or towards the beginning of the case?
Posted by: Hallie | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 03:09 PM
Hallie,
that vid is at LEAST 5 years old
Posted by: Tom | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 03:10 PM
Look people, can't anyone here read a frickin' post from Dan without taking it so personally. Dan has been ridiculed, personally bashed, and called an arrogant SOB so many here, that I have just about had it.Since the first week of June I have observed an educated guy, with a full-time job, keep up with this blog better than most. He is up all night at times, and keeps giving us multi-paragrah post jam-packed with, heart felt and accurate info. He keeps us up to date on everything. Whether or not the Current Affair transscript is another or not was not something Dan commented on, he just posted the latest scoop.
I myself have had many personal back and forth discussions with Dan Riehl, and I didn't always agree with him but, he never once, belittled me, or was rude in any way. That is called respect. You have your opinion, and I will have mine.
Last evening I posted my disagreement to a post of Dan's and everyone satrted flipping out. I wasn't being rude or anything, just giving my imput like everyone elase. If we all sat here and agreed all day it wouyld a boring blog.
Now, if people are going to get that upset each time someone posts an opinion that is not yours, THEN GO AWAY. I am sure there is a blog out there for ignorant jerks that argue all day. But, this is not the place.
Peace
Posted by: Sly2SmoothieNJs | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 03:10 PM
I am confused and I am not taking sides, it just really seems strange to me how all of a sudden it's like everything that Joran says is the "Gospel" and that Beth Twitty is just a physcho trying to get attention because her beloved daughter simply disappeared on "ONE HAPPY ISLAND". As I said...I don't know what happened to Natalee, but I do know that Joran Van der Sloot and the K brothers were the last ones to see her...DEAD OR ALIVE.
Posted by: Jackpot | Oct 14, 2005 2:03:36 PM
HOORAY FOR YOU JACKPOT!!!!!!!!
I continue to visit this blog for the sole purpose to seek news and information since this case came to light, as I visit all the news Channels and other blogs, like Scared Monkeys, The Political Teen, whose reports are done in a professional way and not based in "theories" and investigations that now are chanded upside down. I have seen the transformation and conversion of Dan from fair and friendly to the Holloways to advocate of the devil.
All these "adoring" fans of host Dan believe anything he would post and they pat his shoulder for a "great" job he is doing, attacking Beth Twitty, now the idol is poor lil' ol' Joran.
Now Natalee "is a slut, dresses like one, talks like one" "she wanted big baby Hewey Joran, she was drunk as a skunk, she made him take jelly shots, she pulled him to dance, she, she, she, she. Now Mrs. Twitty is Hitler's niece? I just wish these people would show more respect to human pain and stop making baseless statements, lies, slanderous, etc. etc. This blog has lost the interest it had before, and I read it just to see the bunch of morons that write all these versions of Joran being such a good student and good boy, and Natalee and Beth being the victims and all of a sudden this host throws all kind of mud on them with his very "intelligent" versions. Bravo, Mrs. Twitty! keep up bugging anyone you can in search of the truth, and do not listen to any bad vibrations coming to your side. God is with you, and many many people also are behind you.
Posted by: oneyka | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 03:14 PM
Hallie,
that vid is at LEAST 5 years old
Posted by: Tom | Oct 14, 2005 3:10:44 PM
Thanks for the time frame
Posted by: Hallie | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 03:15 PM
Tom
To the contrary,I am not anti-Holloway.I am anti-defamation of character without facts and hard evidence.Surely you can understand that.Now whether or not the tape is old I dont know as I do not delve into such material.
So how can a seeker of justice be misconstrued with being anti-Holloway.Wow soem folks think they know it all because the talking heads on TV say so.
Posted by: bizman | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 03:17 PM
Beth stated in an interview with Greta that Natalee never called her during her time in Aruba.
Posted by: usmcmom | Oct 14, 2005 2:16:11 PM
Oh, that's right---beth said it so of course it's true.
Posted by: sowrong | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 03:18 PM
> scubajap aka Julia Renfro-
> The name Julia Renfro seems vaguely familiar to me but I can't recall who she is.
Julia Renfro works for "Aruba Today". Is she certainly ScubaJap?
Posted by: George | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 03:19 PM
That comment Hitler's sister daughter sounds like a teenager trying to sound cool to another teenager to me. To me it is more likely said to emphasize a point that her mother is strict on certain things like drinking or excessive partying. I doubt it was said in the context that there was some deep seeded conflict between mother and daughter or that she was trying to convey a miserable home life. I think in the wild party atmosphere of C&C's after a belly shooter she may have said "God if my mother could only see me now". Joran," your mother wouldn't approve of that?" Natalee, "are you kidding my mother is Hitler's sister's daughter."
Laughs all around.
Posted by: jkatl | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 03:21 PM
SLY,
I have been very critcal of Dan and his posts and I will contiue to do so as long as he posts things that he represents as being fact and has no way to back them up. It's one thing if he wants to represent things as his opinion but entirely different than when he represents things as facts or to be truths. His "sources" are suspect at best and it is a apparent that he has an axe to grind. He has done this in the past with other people and groups and is not doing it with regard to this case.
He also represents these most current stories as being something new and they are NOT! There literally is not ONE thing NEW in anything he has posted only he has taken a differnt position on it and not is stating things to be facts and he can't possibly back that up. Or he would have this case solved which he seems to indicate that he has done.
Being in the position that he is in with the readership that he has on this blog is and should be held to a higher standard. He fails that test at every level.
Posted by: JT | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 03:22 PM
We can't have it both ways, either Natalee was partying, drunk as a skunk or she was telling Joran her life-story, including her relationship with her mom. hmmm I highly doubt that.
Posted by: usmcmom | Oct 14, 2005 2:34:18 PM
So--- I guess because you highly doubt it makes it not true. Gee, it's all so easy.
Posted by: sowrong | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 03:23 PM
Hallie,
that vid is at LEAST 5 years old
Posted by: Tom | Oct 14, 2005 3:10:44 PM
Thanks for the time frame
Posted by: Hallie | Oct 14, 2005 3:15:03 PM
So Tom says it's 5 years old (with no proof) that makes it 5 years old---I'm catching on now.
Posted by: sowrong | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 03:29 PM
Bravo, Mrs. Twitty! keep up bugging anyone you can in search of the truth, and do not listen to any bad vibrations coming to your side. God is with you, and many many people also are behind you.
Posted by: oneyka | Oct 14, 2005 3:14:10 PM
Oh yes---she will have to answer to God ultimately.
Posted by: sowrong | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 03:31 PM
> So how can a seeker of justice be misconstrued with being anti-Holloway.
Since Twitty's purpose is, as was explicitly put by their fellow Joe Mammana is "revenge and not justice", they naturally consider justice seekers "anti-Twitty". However, in order to gain symphathy of naive public they substitute in smearing the own last name with family name of the missing girl.
Posted by: George | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 03:32 PM
I guess some people just dont want to hear the other side of the story, seems like only Beth and FOX is telling the truth,YEAH RIGHT!!!
Posted by: nelson | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 03:34 PM
RE: the video--- his email is there---write him for details.
I happen to know her. I actually dated her once and she insisted on giving me a blow job on the first date. It doesn't suprise me that she wound up on a beach taking it from three guys at once. That's the kind of girl she was.
nat (none / 1) (#392)
by veasun on Mon Jul 11th, 2005 at 02:12:58 AM EST
(F2qanzvea@yahoo.com)
Posted by: sowrong | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 03:36 PM
I have been very critcal of Dan and his posts and I will contiue to do so as long as he posts things that he represents as being fact and has no way to back them up.
Posted by: JT | Oct 14, 2005 3:22:33 PM
why don't u tell that to Beth, that she should open her mouth when she has reliable sources.
She has made a mockery of this case, and u seem to be accusing Dan for being critcal....
unbeleivable
Posted by: c | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 03:40 PM
Confused... First he says.
Joran van der Sloot: She told me a lot of things. One thing she told me was that her mother was Hitler's sister's daughter. I don?t know what she was talking, a lot of strange things. She told me she wanted to go to the light house and see sharks, which we never went to. But, I don?t know, she talked a lot of things. Obviously, she was drunk. I had stuff to drink too. Now, I don?t respect that the Aruban authority tried to pin that it was a rape case. She wanted to go with me. I wanted to go with her. It was totally consensual.
Then he says.
But, not me, not Deepak or Satish had sex with her and that is in all the documents. And none of us had ever said anything like that. and yeah I just think it is sad how Natalee?s mom comes forward and starts saying things against us that don?t make sense and are not true.
He is lying still, even though he says thats the worst thing he did.
Posted by: Aunt Em | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 03:41 PM
That's some B-A-D karma you people are asking for, impugning a grieving mother and missing daughter. Enjoy it.
Posted by: guess | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 03:41 PM
Now, I don?t respect that the Aruban authority tried to pin that it was a rape case. She wanted to go with me. I wanted to go with her. It was totally consensual.
I have a concern with this statement. I know he is referring to both of them wanting to leave C&C's together, but I wonder if he thinks because she leaves C&C's willingly with him, that that entitles him to go as far as he wants to go with her. Sounds like to me if he did have her sex with her even though she was going in and out of conciousness, to him it couldn't possibly be rape because she wanted to leave me.
Posted by: jkatl | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 03:43 PM
Posted by: George | Oct 14, 2005 3:19:13 PM
ScubaJap said she was a US citizen, is JR a US Citizen...
Posted by: c | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 03:44 PM
above & beyond anything joran had to say in that interview.........i find it disturbing how it was edited.
i am very concerned how cable news has spoon fed the public on this story.while i think the skeeters tape is compelling it will be interesting if we can ever see the complete tape or read the transcript.
btw: when being interviewed after the intial airing of the joran tape....the interviewer made a point of how co-operative joran was. a week or so after he is on with geraldo saying joran made him very afraid.
it seems to me that though the kalpoes & van der sloots are involved in natalee's disapperance but who knows to what extent......the media has demonized these people from the very beginning
what is most sad is that natalee seems to be forgotten & a large number of people seem to want to trash her memory
i only pray that dompig is an honoruable man & is really trying to look at the investigation with a fresh outlook
Posted by: chip | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 03:47 PM
nat (none / 1) (#392)
by veasun on Mon Jul 11th, 2005 at 02:12:58 AM EST
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Posted by: sowrong | Oct 14, 2005 3:36:01 PM
I remain open to many theories of what may have happened to Natalee. However, that video is pure BS! As is any statements made as to the "kind of girl she was". Some of you posters have reached an all time low of scum behavior to post such things on this blog. I may not know anything about Natalee, what kind of girl she was, but I certainly find these kind of posts contemptible. Even if any of this was true, want would be gained in finding Natalee and as to what happened to her? Is negative attention better than no attention at all to these *ssholes?
Posted by: Isanah | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 03:49 PM
Now, I don?t respect that the Aruban authority tried to pin that it was a rape case. She wanted to go with me. I wanted to go with her. It was totally consensual.
I have a concern with this statement. I know he is referring to both of them wanting to leave C&C's together, but I wonder if he thinks because she leaves C&C's willingly with him, that that entitles him to go as far as he wants to go with her. Sounds like to me if he did have her sex with her even though she was going in and out of conciousness, to him it couldn't possibly be rape because she wanted to leave me.
Correction: at the end that should be : couldn't possibly be rape because wanted to leave WITH me.
Posted by: jkatl | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 03:49 PM
He is lying still, even though he says thats the worst thing he did.
Posted by: Aunt Em | Oct 14, 2005 3:41:36 PM
Where do these people come from---oh yeah, they came from that cowardly blog that closed down.
Posted by: sowrong | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 03:50 PM
I never claimed any validity to the video a**hole---learn to read.
Posted by: sowrong | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 03:51 PM
I think Joran made this statment , after getting advice from Daddy.
Natalie would not say something like this...Hitler is more on the mind of someone from Holland due to the proximity to Germany, history.
It's pure speculation ,on my behalf, but this seems like an add on from Joran ( tip given by daddy) , to turn the media against Holloway.
Who's goign to say something like that ..while drunk and making out? Give me a break!
This is what JORAN and HIS father think of Beth... OBVIOUSLY She's givin it to them and hard.
I am really suprised in you Dan. I come on here now, just to see how badly you will stick your foot in your mouth.You keep degrading Natalee to the point of now return. It's really sad. What did she ever do to you Dan?
I pray one day they do find the body, and you will be eating crow.
However you are pretty sure that they won't ever find her body. That's why you can take the other side now.
I do admit though ....LOL ! You are turning into the Kathy Lee Gifford of the blog world. Fun to watch! How much farther will you stick your foot in your mouth in the coming /days/weeks/months?
jejejeje
Posted by: Michelle | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 03:52 PM
Posted by: Isanah | Oct 14, 2005 3:49:06 PM
The guy's email is there---write to him---hope you aren't that ignorant to think that I wrote that.
Posted by: sowrong | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 03:53 PM
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Posted by: paul | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 03:54 PM
Who's goign to say something like that ..while drunk and making out? Give me a break!
Posted by: Michelle | Oct 14, 2005 3:52:00 PM
No---give us a break. Who are you to say it wasn't said---were you right there? It's an idiotfest in here for Christ's sake.
Posted by: sowrong | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 03:55 PM
That's some B-A-D karma you people are asking for, impugning a grieving mother and missing daughter. Enjoy it.
Posted by: guess | Oct 14, 2005 3:41:55 PM
What about your Karma---defending a liar.
Posted by: sowrong | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 03:57 PM
I doubt very much that vid is Natalee. If you look at the shape of the girl in the vid she is shaped like a boy, no hips, no narrowing at the waist. If you look at some of Natalee's dance videos she has a feminine figure with shape between her hips and waist.
Posted by: jkatl | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 03:59 PM
No you are th eonly idiot. Let's say it did happen.
Who cares? and Why all of a sudden is it the big headline...ohh the big SCOOP...yeah that comment is REALLY an important clue alright.
The thing is we can't ask natalee , and given all the lies Joran has told, the resonable thing to deduct is that it ain't true.
All the Beth naysayers are acting like spiteful menapausic angry old women , and not like men.
Men don't gossip monger. That a b*tch thing to do.
Ahem and excuse my language
Posted by: Michelle | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 03:59 PM
3 words to bind them. 3 words to rule them all.
Lie detector test
Posted by: mc | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 04:02 PM
My thinking is this, I don't know Dan or anyone here for that matter, but what I am seeing is riding the fence, fair weather thing going on here, I really don't care for that at all. It's like I'll be a Bears fan ONLY if they are doing better, if not then they suck. It's like kind of being pregnant, you either are or you're not. Keep swaying and someday you will fall off that fence. JMHO
Posted by: Sweetie | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 04:03 PM
The guy's email is there---write to him---hope you aren't that ignorant to think that I wrote that.
Posted by: sowrong | Oct 14, 2005 3:53:11 PM
Why would I want to email someone like that who has such a lack of integrity as to promoting such crap? I barely find the desire to post back to you since you felt the need to perpetuate such scum on this blog. Like I said, no matter what kind of girl Natalee may or may not have been, there is nothing to be gained by posting these comments on this blog. Who is ignorant? Who is liking the negative attention, rather than posting something worthy of discussion?
Posted by: Isanah | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 04:03 PM
oneyka, the fact is that we have ALSO different prespectives.
Dan is making a magnificent job, and if you do not like it, well..... Making the necessary researches in order to mantain us informed and not like you only interpreting the news with the things you want to hear.
Posted by: antoinette | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 04:04 PM
> ScubaJap said she was a US citizen, is JR a US Citizen...
Yes, she emigrated from USA.
Posted by: George | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 04:05 PM
Lie detector test
Won't ever happen.
Posted by: Sweetie | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 04:06 PM
Dan is gossip mongering, and trying to stir up the pot, and get more hits. Period.
I wonder if he wants to try out for the 'view' with all the ladies?
Posted by: Michelle | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 04:06 PM
I just don't see what is sooooo shocking about a statement from a liar.
Gosh jolly! Liars say the derndest things don't they?
Posted by: Michelle | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 04:09 PM
Sometimes, lies upon lies upon lies upon lies have a way of coming back and biting you on the ass, in his case, I hope so.
Posted by: Sweetie | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 04:11 PM
Sweetie,
You are soooooo right. Simple way to get the monkey of his back. Funny that the "cad" is not jumping at the chance. Someone that knows Joran should tell him that I would gladly pick up the tab on a ld or voice stress test for him.
Of course, I am not holding my breath.
"Liars lie to avoid what the truth will bring."
Posted by: mc | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 04:15 PM
I just don't see what is sooooo shocking about a statement from a liar.
Gosh jolly! Liars say the derndest things don't they?
Posted by: Michelle | Oct 14, 2005 4:09:18 PM
The "shocking" thing is his comments were edited on TV to portray a very different viewpoint. And that reading his comments - they seem very rationale and sincere. That's all. I agree not shocking.
Posted by: VASteve | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 04:18 PM
"Joran had apparently led the Mountain Brook students to believe that he was a Dutch tourist staying at the Holiday Inn. Why then, when he told Natalee that he had to go back to school the next day (and his lie was exposed) does Natalee (according to Joran) have no reaction to this lie being exposed?"
OH MY GOSH TOM....I was totally believing the little creep until I read your post!
YES indeed why was that!
Posted by: Liz | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 04:20 PM
yes it is all media manipulation.
All the lies from Joran have been manipulated -they were not Joran's lies , they were the whole media conspiracy against Joran to make Joran look like a liar.
Joran is such a victim.
Poor lil Joran.
Posted by: Michelle | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 04:21 PM
BT told Greta months ago that she took Natalee to a friend's house, to go to the airport that morning, and they never spoke a single time while Natalee was in Aruba.
Also last July I made a note that Joran said Natalee was talking crazy. If he wondered about the Hitler comment and other things she said, maybe that is what he thought was crazy.
She could have also just meant the person she was referring to acted like Hitler and he didn't quite catch her meaning.
IMO, at the present time Joran is believable. He has done nothing to diminish Natalee's character. She seemed to be a lovely girl.
Posted by: berry | Friday, October 14, 2005 at 04:23 PM