Beth Twitty In Ohio

Beth Twitty, Mother of missing and presumed dead Alabama teenager Natalee Holloway, is in Ohio at a Crime Stoppers event with millionaire Joe Mammana. It was hard not to notice that despite her tremendous hardship she appeared almost effusive on TV last night while discussing her time spent with Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, presumably regarding Natalee's tragic disappearance.

Meanwhile, Natalee's Father, Dave Holloway, is on his fifth visit to Aruba as he continues to search for his Daughter.

Comments

[Shari]

I know that both Beth and Dave are following their own hearts to find answers. Some may not agree with how they're going about it, but I hope they finally get some answers - whatever they may be.

[dada]

So does that mean Beths heart is really about making TV appearances. Im not sure shes about finding NH these days....More like her and joe are running for some kind of office...alhough Joe cant because hes a convict....
wheres jug when beth is hanging with the convict?

[Shari]

dada,
No, I didn't think I needed to explain it, but I guess I do. It simply means you don't have to like, nor agree, with how Beth is handling the search for her daughter, and I'm sure she doesn't care what others think.

I merely hope the Holloway/Twitty families finally get some answers and peace.

[*Splash*]

fromthe newspaper--sounds like Joe and Beth are teaming up to speak.-----------

Wednesday morning the organization held its annual breakfast which included guest speaker Beth Twitty, the mother of Natalee Holloway who is missing Aruba, and a Philadelphia millionaire who donated millions of dollars in reward money.

[Not a Hand Wringer]

Mammana, 45, served up to two years in jail for various offenses and got probation in the 1980s and 1990s. He's been in trouble with the law for:
ASSAULTING his wife Lisa, allegedly after she had asked for a divorce, for which he was sent to jail for eight months
IMPERSONATING a lawyer in an effort to buy a Corvette, which landed him behind bars for three months
STEALING a car, which resulted in a year in jail
SELLING fake steroids and fraud

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It appears that Beth is as at ease 'hanging out' with criminals as she is in 'accusing' people of being criminals despite their presumed innocence and the lack of evidence to actually lay charges against her targets.

What exactly are Beth Twitty's core values, that she can cozy up to a wife-beater while greiving the violent acts she believes happened to her daughter?

[AirborneDefender]

Do you think that just maybe, she is so deeply distraught over her missing child that she is willing to go to any length to try and get answers? Think about the reality of this situation for just a moment.............A child that you have raised since birth and love deeply has vanished without a trace. Can you imagine the despair and feeling of hopelessness this parent must feel? As a father of two, I honestly don't know if I could handle it. Not knowing where my child is would change my entire being.

[Dummyhunter]

It really doesn't matter who she is hanging out with or why. It doesn't matter if she smiles, either or isn't crying all day long. It is obvious, she wants to find out what happened to her daughter, and there is no way you can assume she doesn't care because she is not moping everytime someone sees her. I imagine a lot of her sadness has turned to anger because her daughter will probably never be found since the rapists/killers have covered their tracks and had help doing so.

[Not a Hand Wringer]

Do you think that just maybe, she is so deeply distraught over her missing child that she is willing to go to any length to try and get answers? Think about the reality of this situation for just a moment.............A child that you have raised since birth and love deeply has vanished without a trace. Can you imagine the despair and feeling of hopelessness this parent must feel? As a father of two, I honestly don't know if I could handle it. Not knowing where my child is would change my entire being.

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I can imagine it, but I'm sure that my imagination can't capture the actual feelings of despair, hopelessness, etc.

That said, one can only grant so much leeway in this situation to people who chose to play out their dispair, hopelessness, etc in the public eye.

We are all accountable for our actions, regardless of the circumstances. Otherwise our legal standards would incorporate plausible 'justification' scenarios like 'Crimes of Passion'.

But we don't, because it's a core-belief that we are accountable regardless of circumstance, for our actions.

It's my view that it's wrong for a 'sex-crime by association' victim ( Beth ), to cozy up to a wife-beater simply because she's driven to find answers about her daughter.

In short. Yes, I can imagine her pain...but I don't excuse her actions because of her pain.

[bizman]

It appears that Beth does not know which direction she should go in to search for Natalee.She should have flown south as that is where the search is going on.She is wasting precious time in Ohio.
She should be in Aruba searching.The lady looks in all of the strangest places looking for Natalee.It seems that she has been in every studio east of the Mississippi River.

She will not find Natalee in a studio,a classroom,college campus.She is looking everywhere except where she should be looking.

The lady thinks she is a TV star.She refuses to do hands on searching for her daughter.

And now she is apparently alienating Jug and the other kids in the household while she spends unproductive time with likes of Joe Mama.There is nothing good to come out of her trip to Ohio.

From all reports Beth does not need his money for a reward as it seems there is way more than enough for a reward in the donation fund.So it seems Jug needs to check into what is going on between Beth and Joe Mama.

Beth the search is in Aruba,GET DOWN THERE AS IT IS THE ONLY PLACE WHERE YOU WILL FIND YOUR DAUGHTER AND THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO CAN HELP YOU.

[Jan]

Gollllllllly - I used to live in Ohio - so glad I have moved out of that state. I cannot believe how far she will go - no not really how far, but who she "hangs" with - this Joe Mamamana is beyond belief in what he has certainly done - but does Beth care - she loves the lowend people it would seem - guess that is why she left beloved Dave for Jughead. I would certainly expect that we will hear in a year or less that Bethie is gonna be running for some office or get some appointment or something. Or at the very least she will be on the cable news shows like Mr. Klass and that upstanding ex cop Furhman. we will never be done with her.

[!]

I know that both Beth and Dave are following their own hearts to find answers. Some may not agree with how they're going about it, but I hope they finally get some answers - whatever they may be.

Posted by: Shari | Oct 26, 2005 12:44:35 PM

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Well said. ~THANK YOU~

[alert]

What exactly are Beth Twitty's core values, that she can cozy up to a wife-beater while greiving the violent acts she believes happened to her daughter?

Beth has not had much of anything except promoting Beth and making money!

[k.jeanne]

I think Beth's was buoyed by the visit with Sec. of State Rice. I think it gave her hope that somehow-someway something might help her cause. I think she looks wherever it might be for help and is grateful. Rice or Mamamana. I would do the same for my child.

[RdWarrior]

Leave this woman alone.

You all dont know the first thing about grief and being a victim of a crime (which is what all families suffer when a loved one is a victim of a crime)

The reason she is not in Aruba now is because she is receiving death threats. Know this for a fact. The reason she is waiting until Nov 1 to return is that so she can get others to come with her for additional protection

By appearing in Ohio she keeps the case visible in the public and the media. This is important.

As for Joe Mammana.....you all Beth Bashers have no problem siding w the Kalpoes and the VDS clan. Get over it. At least Mammana has dealt with his past, admitted he was wrong, and is willing to correct it...unlike VDS and Kalpoes

Oh, by the way.....Dave is getting a run around from Dompig. Last nite Dompig admitted that the "missing fish cage" was never reported missing...just a knife from the fish huts. Another wild goose chase from cooperating w the Arubans.

Search that VDS property....answers are there.

[MoscowGirl]

From what I read and seen, Dave is a CLASS ACT, and a sensitive, reasonable, intelligent mensch!
Beth is a shallow barracuda and an opportunist. She should go join that Clinton woman on one of her “ventures”, and it will be match made in heaven.

I bet if Dave “finds something”, this witch will suddenly appear “right there” at the very end, and will steal the lime-light.

If there is any justice in this world, Dave will find all the answers and finds resolution and peace, and Beth will get exposed for the “tragedy monger” she is.

It's too bad that so many people and "society" don't see right through people like Beth.

[Jan]

MoscowGirl - Absolutely 100% correct - good name for her too - Tragedy Monger!

[AirborneDefender]

Not a Hand Wringer:

Good points and well said. I am however, a bit more willing to look past the character of millionaire Joe and focus in on what I believe to be Beths main objective. That objective being to keep the "quest for answers" alive in the eyes of the media.

I have always questioned the initial "arresting of the three" and declared them innocent in my mind until proved otherwise. The circumstantial evidence just wasn't enough for me. And............ I feel the same about Beth Twitty. Are we certain that she knows "Millionaire Joes" past (I sure didn't until I read one of the above posts)? and are we certain that her objective is anything other than finding her daughter? If we are not certain, and can not lay out factual evidence, then I suggest that we are no different than those who evaded the presumed innocence of VDS & Kalpoes.

[Jan]

J2K have never been convicted of ANYTHING - where as Joe has -so there is a big difference - and I am not sure you ever really get over the stuff Joe was convicted of!

[roy]

Another wild goose chase from cooperating w the Arubans.

Search that VDS property....answers are there.

Posted by: RdWarrior | Oct 26, 2005 2:27:17 PM

mamana good boy...Arubans bad people ...

[LALady]

Is there a book that contains the standard for how to act when your child disapears???? NO!!!! I do not know what I would do or how I would react....but I would lay down with the devil if I thought it would help.

[HiThere]

After viewing Beth on Greta's show last night, I thought of this:

Depending on the veracity of the Skeeters' tape, Deepak Kalpoe could be re-arrested for the rape of Natalie Holloway.

Kalpoe could only be arrested and prosecuted, however, if testimony or other evidence can show that Holloway was drunk/drugged to the point at which she could not give consent for intercourse. What kind of testimony do prosecutors have available to them regarding Holloway's level of drunkenness? Joran's testimony and that of the Kalpoes, which will -- in a self-interested manner -- state that she was not that out of it in terms of alcohol and drugs.

What other testimony would the prosecutors have available? THAT OF THE MOUNTAIN BROOK TEENAGERS. And what did the Mt. Brook teenagers say? That Holloway was "drinking responsibly" and that she was NOT overly "out of it" in terms of drink or drugs.

Thus, even if the Skeeters tape is deemed to be solid evidence and Kalpoe is re-arrested, the Mtn. Brook teens (mis)representation of Holloway's state on that particular night would most likely sink the case against Kalpoe.

[BamaRN]

Bizman,
You hit the nail right on the head.
She needs to be down in Aruba physically looking for Natalee with Dave and not running around all over the place doing TV interviews.

[Jan]

Hithere - very good point - the MB teens - whether they were truthful or doing their very best Stepford impersonation - said she was acting drinking and being responsible - even to the point that they tried to get her to not go with J2K - so not sure what the tapes prove no matter whether they are authentic or not!

[Fatgillis]

Is there a book that contains the standard for how to act when your child disapears???? NO!!!! I do not know what I would do or how I would react....but I would lay down with the devil if I thought it would help.

Posted by: LALady | Oct 26, 2005 2:45:37 PM

Yes we can send Beth here and have
the bashers tell her how to handle this. They are so smart.

[Moggy]

Is there a book that contains the standard for how to act when your child disapears???? NO!!!! I do not know what I would do or how I would react....but I would lay down with the devil if I thought it would help.

Posted by: LALady | Oct 26, 2005 2:45:37 PM

Nice one LALady. You said it all. Why do people feel they have the right to sit there and judge how this woman is grieving? It makes me sick.

[Colorado]

The reason she is waiting until Nov 1 to return is that so she can get others to come with her for additional protection

Or is she waiting for Geraldo's new show starting Oct 31 to give her the coverage she craves now?

[bizman]

Bizman,
You hit the nail right on the head.
She needs to be down in Aruba physically looking for Natalee with Dave and not running around all over the place doing TV interviews.

Posted by: BamaRN | Oct 26, 2005 2:48:11 PM

BamaRN,
Fact is she has not had anything new to say for months now.I turn the channel when she appears on the TV as she just simply has nothing to say.

From all indications she has not searched the first square ft. and apparently is not going to start searching anytime soon.As stated she does the interviews to keep the story in the news.Well I for one do not need to see her regurgitate the same thing over and over.By this time I do not think she can inform me of anything concerning the case.In fact only the discovery of Natalee dead or alive is worth reporting or if we could see Beth in the dump searching maybe she could have some of her credibility restored.At the presect time she has ZILCH,NADA,NONE.

She is trying her best to become the next Nancy DisGrace and she will fail miserably.

[Jan]

Oh pray tell - what new show is Geraldo going to have - not something nightly - I hope!!

[TrustFund]

Dompic wants to question Beth Twitty, but she isn't cooperating! Why oh why? Dompig also wants Beth to declare what is being done with the money from the trust fund that has totalized over 1 million dollars. Dave is on Aruba helping Equusearch with their search in the sea.

I don't know, do you think maybe Beth is implicated in her own daughter's dissappearance to have "some" fund money?? Maybe!

[!]

Unbelieveable what some will say. Damned if you do or damned if you don't !

[KatieJo]

I think it is pretty apparent to anyone with eyes and ears that Beth Twitty has gotten bitten by the celebrity bug. She is drunk on her own importance. It's really very tragic. I have read some of the foreign sites and most are outraged at her behavior of trashing the Arubans and the Dutch justice system. They in turn are taking shots at Natalee and her behavior. Whatever happened to Natalee she didn't deserve but her mother painting her as the last virgin from Pompay is only engendering the animosity toward Natalee and that is not fair. Natalee was a normal teenager on a senior trip to a fun Caribbean Island, she was not a saint but she was not a bad girl either and her disappearance is a tragedy plain and simple. Why can't her mother stop the lies. I'm sure there would be fewer attacks on her if she would just act like a normal mother instead of the overbearing arrogant American she is now.

[Colorado]

Geraldo's new show is nightly on Fox (not Fox News) starting Monday.

[nelson]

From what came out today in the local newspaper in Aruba, Beth is wanted there for questioning of what she declared on TV that LE had altered some of the intervieuws. Also she is wanted to respond what is being done with all the money which has been donated to Natalee, since alot of search groups are not getting any money from this fund, also neither does Dave.
Finally also the MB kids are gonna be asked to break the silence, since the beginning their parents told the kids not to talk to reporters, now the investigation cannot be only done and focused on Aruba only now its gonna take another turn which ALL involved are being questioned.

[Bigfish]

COSBY: You bet. Well Art, I know that you‘ve been working on this long and hard and please keep us posted on whatever you guys find there. Thank you.

And some strong words tonight from the man funding part of the search

for Natalee Holloway. During a speech tomorrow in Ohio with Natalee‘s mom

by his side, Joe Mammana, who has been helping this family a lot tells the

three suspects in Natalee‘s disappearance to watch out.” He says—quote

“these three pieces of trash, they can run, but they can‘t hide. I want them and the Aruban government to look at me and know that they are—quote—“out of their lead.”

Joe Mammana is LIVE AND DIRECT tonight from COLUMBUS, Ohio. And Joe -
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MAMMANA: It was received very well. We had about 70 to 100 people tonight at a special function with the mayor. Pretty much the people of COLUMBIA, Ohio down here are ready to work behind me if I‘m looking for a boycott. I‘ve been in touch with the Teamsters Union. They‘re ready to work with me in certain areas and it was odd because one of the reporters tonight approached me and said do you realize with your harsh words, you could start an international incident.

And I said you‘ve got to be kidding me? This is an international incident. We have a missing American on foreign soil. It‘s already an incident and we need to bring it to closure. And I understand that this police chief, Dompig, seems to be the only one over there that is really working with the Twitty/Holloway family and I commend him for that.

But I highly suggest that the rest of the Aruban government gets off

their behinds and get rid of that lackadaisical, lethargic attitude that

they have and realize that when I do push for a boycott—which I will get

that I can‘t un-ring the bell and I don‘t want to hurt the Aruban people, but the Aruban people need to put pressure from within and bring this thing to a head very quickly.
snip
RITA: Do you believe, Joe, that that‘s what it‘s going to take for them to say we‘ve got to solve this case?

MAMMANA: I honestly think yes at this time. As you know, a few weeks ago I made some comments on your show, Rita, and—that you know we were going to circle the wagons in every direction. As you know, over the weekend, Beth was able to meet with Condoleezza Rice. And as you know, the government now seems to be helping us in certain areas, which I really can‘t elaborate on right now.

But we‘re covering every angle and, yes, you need pressure on this thing. I think the Aruban government made a lot of mistakes. I think if this case was to happen today, it would be closed within a week or two. They never anticipated in a million years of Beth Twitty to be the kind of person she was, the endurance she has, the strength she has, and to get the support of people like myself and the rest of the United States behind her.

COSBY: And I want to talk about a boycott (INAUDIBLE). I want to bring in Paul too. Paul, are you getting a sense that this is sort of the time to get tough?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9827850/

Bigfish

[Brooke]

"What exactly are Beth Twitty's core values, that she can cozy up to a wife-beater while greiving the violent acts she believes happened to her daughter?"

She cozied up to a wife beater for money I guess.
What does that say about the "grieving" mother?
She's just a self centered media hog. She gets more despicable as time goes on. This is no longer about keeping the case in the media its more about the Twit being in the limelight.

[dada]

yeah right
im sure the sec of state is getting involved in a missing person case.... cant happen and never will

[!]

Posted by: RdWarrior | Oct 26, 2005 2:27:17 PM

Good post. thank you !

[bella]

?????How can you??????? Vicious, mean-spirited, judgmental - all without knowing the REAL people - some of you "love" so and so and so and so. You do NOT KNOW them and it is ridiculous to think that you do. Some of you hate so and so and so and so - ridiculous - you don't know them either. The Twittys and the Holloways have not been forthcoming on a very personal level - so all there is is conjecture - who left whom and why does not matter worth a damn - it is simply voyaristic. As far as Beth is concerned, what makes you think she is not suffering from a major breakdown and is simply trying every possible thing she can. What a jury most of you would make - impartial? Ha ha - no.

[FLAGMOM]

Have you noticed how Beth is looking? She's probably lost 20 lbs, her eyes are sunken, she's exhausted, but she continues searching for Natalee.

She is reaching far and wide trying to find somebody that might be able to help her. I don't blame her, I only hope in this situation that I would be able to handle myself as well as she does.

She is returning to Aruba, waiting until November 1st when her brother can go with her for her protection.

How do you know Dave's not getting money to do these searches? Sure is a lot of know it alls here, who haven't got a clue what's really going on.

I support Beth, Dave and anybody else who will help them find Natalee and bring to justice the person or persons who are responsible.

[SFBuff]

My thoughts and prayers are with ALL of Natalee's family and friends.

You all can bash Beth as much as you want- and sound like caddy school girls who need to get a life. THE ONLY FACTS KNOWN: (1) Natalee is missing (2) Beth is gaining and retaining media coverage to help find answers...

No she is not voicing herself to get attention for herself KATIEJO.. ARE YOU SERIOUS??? Her daughter is gone and you think she wants to be doing this???!!!! I can only imagine your need for attention to put that on someone else. LOGICALLY you can think that she would be happy to have answers and conclusion and out of the public eye...

There is nothing wrong with what she is doing. I guarantee you-if you needed something with power to help you (ie- the media) your ignorant opinions and karma would fall short. If you don't like it change the channel.

I hope she keeps on screaming- EVEN IF THERE IS NO NEW NEWS... otherwise this case is forgotten about. Sad... then you all will have to find another innocent victim's greiving family to gripe about?!?!?!

Ignorance can be entertaining- but in most of your cases... it's just sad.

[anne]

I'm disqusted with all of this Beth-bashing. Where has anyone's compassion gone? Everyone used to think she was a hero. Now her pain has gone on a little bit too long, and y'all have made her the enemy. Stop it!

[Amber]

Beth Twitty does not act like a grieving mother, has anyone else noticed her new dye job? Personally I think she knows that her daughter is fine, and that Natalee just ran off. If she doesn't think that her daughter is fine, she is one cold hearted person judging by her actions since her daughters dissapearance.

[annie]

I know that both Beth and Dave are following their own hearts to find answers. Some may not agree with how they're going about it, but I hope they finally get some answers - whatever they may be.

Posted by: Shari | Oct 26, 2005 12:44:35 PM

Well said Shari. I believe both of Natalee's parents miss Natalee and are distraught by this and are handling the situation the way they feel is best. I just pray they will get the answers they so desire. I do admire Dave and his quiet resolve, but also admire Beth and Dave's tenaciousness. I think they both need our support and they still have mine.

[wreck]

All the people bashing Beth are pathetic.

How "dare" the mother of a missing, most likely murdered child not act the way we want her to? How "dare" she not sit by on the side and "make waves" when after 5 months this case is almost successfully swept under the rug?!
She is really making it uncomfortable for those of us who want our "happy Island" to go on without interruption!
Oh yeah, and just why is it fair that a girl who told her mother she was a virgin be allowed to go missing and ruin the lives of 3 of our local boys who were the last ones seen with her and were forced to make up lies to protect themselves?

Geesh!

[!]

My thoughts and prayers are with ALL of Natalee's family and friends.

You all can bash Beth as much as you want- and sound like caddy school girls who need to get a life. THE ONLY FACTS KNOWN: (1) Natalee is missing (2) Beth is gaining and retaining media coverage to help find answers...

No she is not voicing herself to get attention for herself KATIEJO.. ARE YOU SERIOUS??? Her daughter is gone and you think she wants to be doing this???!!!! I can only imagine your need for attention to put that on someone else. LOGICALLY you can think that she would be happy to have answers and conclusion and out of the public eye...

There is nothing wrong with what she is doing. I guarantee you-if you needed something with power to help you (ie- the media) your ignorant opinions and karma would fall short. If you don't like it change the channel.

I hope she keeps on screaming- EVEN IF THERE IS NO NEW NEWS... otherwise this case is forgotten about. Sad... then you all will have to find another innocent victim's greiving family to gripe about?!?!?!

Ignorance can be entertaining- but in most of your cases... it's just sad.

Posted by: SFBuff | Oct 26, 2005 4:17:21 PM
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WELL SAID !!! ~THANK YOU~ :o)

[truthbetold]

what a shocker...beth doing more press while dave looks for natalee's remains.......

[bamaguy11]

Beth Twitty does not act like a grieving mother, has anyone else noticed her new dye job? Personally I think she knows that her daughter is fine, and that Natalee just ran off. If she doesn't think that her daughter is fine, she is one cold hearted person judging by her actions since her daughters dissapearance.

Posted by: Amber | Oct 26, 2005 4:31:23 PM

Who cares about the dye job? If you think she is worried about her appearance you are crazy. Have you seen her on TV? She looks terrible. Should her life end completely? I guess you would rather she stopped eating & breathing too...

YOU ARE one cold hearted person for judging BETH's actions.

[truthbetold]

It appears that Beth is as at ease 'hanging out' with criminals as she is in 'accusing' people of being criminals despite their presumed innocence and the lack of evidence to actually lay charges against her targets.

What exactly are Beth Twitty's core values, that she can cozy up to a wife-beater while greiving the violent acts she believes happened to her daughter?

Posted by: Not a Hand Wringer | Oct 26, 2005 1:30:10 PM

YOU GOT IT!!!! WELLLLL SAID

[nelson]

Beth lost it when she started the bashing of ARUBA!! No respect for her what so ever!!

[bamaguy11]

Beth lost it when she started the bashing of ARUBA!! No respect for her what so ever!!

Posted by: nelson | Oct 26, 2005 5:02:08 PM

Do you reside in Aruba?

Beth voiced concerns with the ALE, not its people.

How do you (or anyone else) know the ALE is on the up-and-up?