The Non-Denial Denial

Sorry, but it's time for Cindy Sheehan to go home and re-group. It's tragic and I feel for her loss. Noone should have to outlive their children, no matter how they pass. But there comes a time with this stuff when enough is enough.

Comments

[gagal_05]

I agree about Cindy Sheehan. I felt great empathy for her at first but when I saw her yesterday being carried to be arrested with that big smile on her face. That was the last straw for me.

Cindy Sheehan is not the only one that needs to go home and regroup. Beth Twitty should do the same. JMO

[Aunt Em]

Not for nuthin, I am not a conservative nor a moderate. But Bush should just get up some balls and talk to her. She is obviously despondent, and all she wants to do is ask him pointed questions.

She lost her son, nobody knows how that feels unless it happens to you. I have lost a child, albeit before he was born, but his loss still haunts me. Mostly because I cant have other children now.

I say Bush should give her what she is asking for.

[Aunt Em]

That should read MORE a moderate. I am conservative on some issues and liberal on others.

For instance what people do in the privacy of their own homes between consenting adults should remain private.

[york gal]

aunt em,

just wanted to send my condolences your way and say that i'm sorry to "hear" about your loss. i have had 4 losses, before they had a chance to grace the world with their presence, so i know and feel your pain.

k

[Aunt Em]

Thanks..

What really irks me is when I give an opinion about something sometimes parents tell me I dont understand because I dont have children.

First I get mad, then I get sad.

I feel sorry for Cindy.

[york gal]

i guess you're nicer than me - i would put those ppl in their place. i have been blessed with 2 living children, but most seem to think that having kids makes my losses null and void. it's so sad you know, that society tends to turn the other cheek when it comes to grief and loss.

[Aunt Em]

Well, I am the bestest Aunt ever, and Godmother to 4 children including my niece and nephew. I count my blessings as well as feel my loss.

The thing that gets me is that they dont get that I bonded with my son after 6 months. And his loss was indeed a great one. Not only did I lose him, I lost the ability to have children. (it was a bad one).

I am a better mom than a lot of moms I know. My child was large enough to bury, he was large enough to stay in my heart forever. He even had a name.

I cant say to Cindy or Beth that they should give it up. I dont know that I could.

Im glad that you have other kids, but I am so sorry you lost so many. I know that even if I could have kids I wouldnt mourn for my sons loss.

[Aunt Em]

Damn typos. WOULD mourn, forever.

[york gal]

goodness, i couldn't imagine. my losses were early, but even if i didn't have living children, i would still be a mom, kwim? i'm sure you're a fantastic mom - just acknowledging your boy proves that.

unless you've had a hysterectomy, it is still possible for you to have children. i wish you all the best.

[oldtimer]

President Bush DID meet with her.....

[Aunt Em]

Nah, my uterus was ruptured The scar tissue is too hard and non elastic. If I tried again I would have another miscarriage and could die. It wasnt elastic enough or something to begin with. My child grew but my uterus didnt. To a point anyway, but now its even less so.

I have had my tubes tied so that it doesnt happen again. Doctors orders, too dangerous for me to give birth for me. No hysterectomy for me though. I am only 36, I didnt want the menopause thing to happen before it was time.

[Aunt Em]

Yes, in a group. Why cant he get the balls to just answer her questions? I just dont understand.

Talk to her. Thats all she asks. He has time for month long vacations, trips all over the place. He cant talk to a woman who he put in harms way?

[york gal]

oh my! a uterine rupture is serious stuff - very lucky for you to be here!! how bout a serrogate?

[Dan]

AUnt Em - Bush met with her and she spoke extremely highly of him and how he treated her at the time. Since then, she has done a 180 and, unfortunately, given the people she has allowed to influence her - I personally wouldn't even trust her enough to meet with because of what she might pull, or say just to make it a media circus for her cause. Sadly, she has lost all credibility in that sense, despite her loss.

[Aunt Em]

Well, I am single. On my own now. Its probably not the best. I would have to work still and if I had a child I would want to be home.

Maybe someday if I can meet someone who can deal with all the baggage of having a baby lol. Including supporting me and the child until he or she is in school. Plus surrogates scare me. The 9 tenths thing and all.

[Aunt Em]

Dan, I agree in one sense. Now she is pushing the limits.

But I do think that she deserves to be heard by him, and given a personal response. After all, she did give Bush a personal sacrifice that was the biggest sacrifice a mother could give.

I wont lie, I despise Bush and his lies. I hate his war based on the lies. I would personally like to see what he has to say about the ever changing reasons we went after Iraq and let OBL get off the radar.

And like I said, I am no liberal. But not necessarily a conservative either.

[oneyka]

Cindy Sheenan knows his son is dead, she has a grave to put flowers on and pray for him. All this grandstanding is not going to bring him back nor the President is going to bring the troops back until this is over one way or another.
Why compare her with Beth Twitty and say she needs to "regroup" also?
Her case is so completely different, her daughter is missing, probably dead, she does not have any answers, and I would do the same thing she is doing, because Natalee did not die in the war, she was probably murder and the perpetrators are walking free, the four bastards! I hope Mrs. Twitty never, never gives up and keeps haunting them.

[usmcmom]

He cant talk to a woman who he put in harms way?

Posted by: Aunt Em | Sep 27, 2005 10:23:26 PM

Not exactly sure what you mean by this, how did the President put her in harms way? Also, if every President were to meet with every crackpot picketing in front of the White House, with their "cause" of the day they would be a useless leader. Cindy Sheehan is out of her ever-lovin mind. Any empathy I had for her is long gone with her continuous, simplistic tirades on foreign policy and other issues which shows her to be completely out of touch with reality. Next, you'll be wanting the President to personally speak to Beth Twitty.

[Muirnin]

Yes, in a group. Why cant he get the balls to just answer her questions? I just dont understand.

Talk to her. Thats all she asks. He has time for month long vacations, trips all over the place. He cant talk to a woman who he put in harms way?

Posted by: Aunt Em | Sep 27, 2005 10:23:26 PM

IMO......

Bush has already met with her. They don't have the same opinions. He can't do anymore.

Casey joined the military..he died with honor, just as so many have. He died for his country.

If Cindy Sheehan was so opposed, why didn't she begin this crap before he joined? I guess she was hoping for a free education, benefits, retirement for Casey etc., with the military.

Hello CINDY...joining the military always means you may be called in for a war. My grandfather fought for this country, my father did...and IF I had a son/daughter......I'd be proud if they fought for our country as well.

War is never fair. Life is never fair. But, you have to move on and honor those that died for the rest of us.

IMO, CINDY SHEEHAN.......your son joined and honored this country.....let it be. Don't make a circus out of it like you have been...I don't think Casey would have wanted it this way.

[!]

~Move on Cindy ~Enough is enough~

How many meetings do you want with President Bush ? You think you can have a meeting with a very busy President every time you change your mind about the way you feel ? You had a meeitn already. Get over yourself and honor your son.
You are no more special than any of the other mothers or soldiers that lost their sons or daughters or the wifes of women that lost husbands, etc., etc.
You are down right pitiful now. Seek help.

[Muirnin]

Posted by: ! | Sep 28, 2005 1:44:08 AM

Where are you "!"

Moving about like me?

[Daz Honey]

nah, too many people dying for a worthless cause in a bogus war that we don't need. It sounds like you watch fox news haha! one day you will see that you have been duped by the crazies!

[junius]

Bush can take a month long vacation but he can't take 10min. to meet with this lady. I wonder what he's afraid of?

[Muirnin]

nah, too many people dying for a worthless cause in a bogus war that we don't need. It sounds like you watch fox news haha! one day you will see that you have been duped by the crazies!

Posted by: Daz Honey | Sep 28, 2005 3:45:19 AM

If you think the cause is worthless, move out of the US....as with anyone else in the US that thinks so.

Hey, no one keeping you here.... I think it costs $75 for a passport. In most cases, you can stay in another country for 3 months, but you can leave that country for a day, return to whatever country you love....and stay for another 3 months.

I imagine, by that time, you'll come crying back to the US so you can whine and complain some more.

If you think it's better, more safe elsewhere. Go.

Don't let the door hit you in the ass. BTW, take Cindy Sheehan with you.

No one is going to miss either of you.

[Muirnin]

Bush can take a month long vacation but he can't take 10min. to meet with this lady. I wonder what he's afraid of?

Posted by: junius | Sep 28, 2005 4:07:10 AM

He already met with her. What does she want him to do?

He can't bring her son back to life.

He won't change his plan....she knows it...we all know it.

She needs to be on anti-psychotic medication or get a job. She's got too much time on her hands.
She is making herself look like an ass, not to mention, ruining the dignity of her son.

[Muirnin]

Not for nuthin, I am not a conservative nor a moderate. But Bush should just get up some balls and talk to her. She is obviously despondent, and all she wants to do is ask him pointed questions.

She lost her son, nobody knows how that feels unless it happens to you. I have lost a child, albeit before he was born, but his loss still haunts me. Mostly because I cant have other children now.

I say Bush should give her what she is asking for.

Posted by: Aunt Em | Sep 27, 2005 9:30:45 PM

Sorry late to be answering, but had to.

IMO....Cindy Sheehan is insane. Bush can't help her. I'm not even sure the best psychiatrist in the world can help her.

Bush has already talked to her. Any further conversation would be pointless. She is obviously someone dealing with grief in a destructive way. Destructive to her, her followers, our President, and HER SON.

She needs to find a constructive way to deal with her grief and time. Making herself look like an idiot, disgracing her son....is not the way to go.

It's not the 60's or 70's anymore. Grow up and move on.

In case you are wondering, anyone. Yeah, I have had loss. My mother was murdered, my father died when I was 19 years old, my brother died when he was 49. The one, and only child I could have ever had, I miscarried.

I deal with it. Every day. I wish I could say they all died for our country....

[annie]

Dan, I agree.

[annie]

I wish I could say they all died for our country....

Posted by: Muirnin | Sep 28, 2005 5:25:41 AM

I agree and I also agree with these phrases:

She is obviously someone dealing with grief in a destructive way. Destructive to her, her followers, our President, and HER SON.

She needs to find a constructive way to deal with her grief and time. Making herself look like an idiot, disgracing her son....is not the way to go.

Well stated!

[jack garrett]

I served 22 years in the military,Desert Storm 1 and 2.Cindy Sheehan had her talk with the president then let the liberals influence her to request another talk with the president. She is dishonoring her sons service. She has ruined her marriage.No one forced her son to join the military.I'am neither a dem or repub. I do not support Bush. Bush got out of serving in Vietnam and was AWOL from the Texas Guard.He refused a flight physical because he new he would test positive for drugs.He like Clinton has no right to send anybody to war. I believe there should be a draft.There is not a balanced representation of americans serving.There are no rich people in the military.Very few middle class more and more minorities, a handful of muslims. Why doesn't Bush send his daughters to serve in Iraq? OPERATION ENDURING FREEDOM (AFGHANISTAN) is justified. We don't belong in Iraq.We should never have went the first time. North korean president Kim kicked out the U.N. inspectors why are we not pursuing him? he is a lot more dangerous then Hussein was, oil is why.We kiss saudis ass because we need oil.Saudi is the biggest supporter of terrorism in the world.Our government hasn't learned anything since the "energy crisis" from the 70's they have failed on developing alternative sources of fuel. We need to either take over all the oil supply in the middle east or get out.

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