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Dan, this post should have come with a warning not to be drinking anything while reading.

Dildos? heh...ooookay...

As for the watch, necklace, clothes, and vcr tapes in the garbage outside...a simple, why?

Black hoodie? Wasn't that what Taylor was allegedly wearing the night she went missing?
I'm glad they finally did a search-anyone know if DNA sequences last that long as possible evidence?

The black hoody was listed under the items they went to find.

I'm pretty sure it wasn't categorically listed in what they actually found, although there is every chance it may have been in one of the bags of clothes found outside.

I'm glad they finally did a search-anyone know if DNA sequences last that long as possible evidence?

Posted by: anon | Sep 29, 2005 9:56:32 PM

ask Monica and Bill. Yes DNA can last that long. We had a murder here about 22 years ago, a cigarette butt collected over 20 years ago used to arrest and convict the girls boyfriend at the time.

How does DNA help in this? She was open about being there. So, there should be her DNA evidence.

he is looking guilty....clothes in the trash can? a watch found in the trash can? id's? bras? gun cartdrige, macheti? I wonder if any if that stuff was taylors - my guess is yes

This guy had seven other computers taken during the search warrant (according to video of warrant at http://www.nbc4.com/news/5009246/detail.html)

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Items taken from apartment at 407A Hancock:

1 BoldData tower comp
1 grey tower comp
1 dell Dimension tower comp
2nd dell Dimension tower comp
1 dell Inspirion 8600 laptop comp
1 Compaq Presario tower comp
1 generic tower comp

1 Avid 4 GB ext hard drive
1 Fujitsu HD
1 yellow disk
1 512 MB photo card
5 boxes (sizes unknown) of CDs
1 black bag of CDs

That's 7 computers
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But he had more than that (at least 9 including a MAC) according to this:
http://www.livejournal.com/users/line_nowhere/

":: I use MSIE on five of my PC's. I have Safari on the crapMac, but I have just added Firefox to three of my PC's as I find MSIE is a royal pain in the a.."

Posted by: AkekoaHoAlethia | Sep 23, 2005 2:53:34 AM

http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2005/09/strange_timing_.html#comment-9691780

What an odd assortment of items Ben placed in his garbage can. Probably just doing a little fall cleaning. The man is clearly insane. And,IMO, looking guiltier by the moment.

Posted by: AkekoaHoAlethia | Sep 29, 2005 11:42:56 PM

Not sure of legal procedure in VA, but I know here in PA, any item taken would have to be categorically listed, not just listed as (black bag with clothes). Each computer taken would need to be listed, serial number, something to identify it and set a part from other computers taken. I read the article listing the PC's but don't see them on the search warrant. Also the charges listed for reason of a search warrant being granted are taking iindecent liberties w/ a child, attempted, Contributing to the deliquency of a minor. But the warrant goes on to list items personal to Taylor, without a charge listed. Kind of strange. Then several days after the warrant was executed, they say Fawley is no longer a person of interest?

Hi Cindi,

I don't know ser nos. But I copied that list I made by playing the video provided on that web site of the news station. I paused the video images they took showing and zooming in on a warrant that showed the Street ddress 407A Hancock.

I copied what I could read on my zoomed in video and I could not see all the right side of the warrants. But it did look like they were listing ser nos with some of them. I can't explain why that was a different page on that video. It appears to be a different part of the warrant....

Cindi inPA

Here is another reference (below) to the list Dan has above.

But I tried to review the video I watched on Sept 23rd and it doesn't appear to be available any more at the nbc12 link. It clearly showed a page with exactly the computers listed as I typed it.
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Interesting?? Link to copy of Fawley search warrant and items seized http://www.nbc12.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WWBT/Page/WBT_ContentPage&c=Page&cid=1059969234715

Posted by: bull | Sep 29, 2005 6:29:02 PM
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2005/09/taylor_behl_ite.html#comment-9871850
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Hmmm. Ben Fawley is an convicted felon, what is a felon doing with a .32 caliber bullet? It couldn't be Taylors since she was under 18 and not legally able to have a handgun (and thus no use for a bullet) until she's 21.

Ben on the other hand shouldn't have had that bullet since he's a felon. He was forbidden to have guns or ammo. (What is the use of having ammo if you can't have the gun that goes with it?)

Cindi [inPA]

I found the answer about the different lists. There were two searches!
First they took the 7 computers - Sept 16 (see below).
Then that investigation led to BF arrest and second search - Sept 23 - when he was arrested.
.......

"Executing their second search warrant at the premises over the past week[Sep 17-24, 2005]."


BY JIM NOLAN
TIMES-DISPATCH STAFF WRITER Sep 24, 2005

"Richmond Police yesterday arrested an amateur photographer - one of the last people to see Virginia Commonwealth University freshman Taylor Behl before she vanished Sept. 5 - and charged him with 16 counts of possession of child pornography.

Ben Fawley, 38, was arrested about 3 p.m. just as a phalanx of armed and armored police officers converged on his doorstep in the 400 block of Hancock Street.

...A contingent of investigators from the multi-agency task force searching for Behl converged on Fawley's house, executing their
second search warrant at the premises over the past week.

Fawley's lawyer, Chris Collins, was present at the time of the arrest.
He said the search warrant filed by police sought various items of clothing and jewelry from Fawley and Behl, as well as electronics, cell phones, identification, and license plates."

http://www.timesdispatch.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=RTD/MGArticle/RTD_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1031785248145

.............................
Houses searched in Behl case
Police execute warrants in search for the VCU student who disappeared Sept. 5

BY JIM NOLAN
TIMES-DISPATCH STAFF WRITER Sep 17, 2005


"Police searched homes in Richmond and Northern Virginia yesterday looking for clues to the whereabouts of missing Virginia Commonwealth University freshman Taylor Behl.
The Richmond Police Department task force assigned to the criminal investigation into Behl's Sept. 5 disappearance
executed warrants at Behl's home in Vienna early yesterday afternoon.
They removed the contents of her personal computer.

Later in the afternoon, investigators also
executed a search warrant at the Richmond home of a 38-year-old photographer who had taken pictures of the 17-year-old when she visited VCU in April.

The man, according to Behl's family and investigators close to the case, also had a personal relationship with the teenager and is believed to have seen her within 24 hours of her disappearance.

Officials would not comment on what was removed from the photographer's home, on the northern edge of VCU's Monroe Park campus. But people familiar with the investigation said computer information was also taken from his house."

http://www.timesdispatch.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=RTD/MGArticle/RTD_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1031785115652
........................................

This is the list I posted above from the first search when the 7 computers were taken.

Posted by: AkekoaHoAlethia | Sep 29, 2005 11:42:56 PM
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2005/09/taylor_behl_ite.html

Now I see on this second search another LAPTOP http://wwbtads.com/news/fawley/page3.htm

A Macintosh computer, 3 more hard drives and another digital camera, a 35 MM camera and rolls of film, plus more boxes of media, DVDs and video tapes.
http://wwbtads.com/news/fawley/page4.htm

This is consistent with what I described on 9-23:

"But he had more than that [7 computers] (at least 9 including a MAC) according to this:"
http://www.livejournal.com/users/line_nowhere/

So here are the other two computers - the MAC and a LAPTOP...

Now we know how he was still able to be online after the first search and seizure. He must have had these two stashed somewhere else and brought them there after the first search.

Now we know how he was still able to be online after the first search and seizure. He must have had these two stashed somewhere else and brought them there after the first search.
Posted by: AkekoaHoAlethia | Sep 30, 2005 1:34:11 AM

Thank you for clearing that up :). I started to think maybe we were not seeing all the pages to the search warrant.

Ben on the other hand shouldn't have had that bullet since he's a felon. He was forbidden to have guns or ammo. (What is the use of having ammo if you can't have the gun that goes with it?)

Posted by: insanehippie | Sep 30, 2005 1:32:58 AM

Was he a convicted felon? I know he spent time in jail, but not sure if the charges were felony offenses. If they were not,then he would be permitted to own a firearm.


Sounds to me like they are making him think they are not looking at just him so he will feel more relaxed, that way they can get him to talk more. The more lies he tells and stories he comes up with just shows he is trying to cover somehing up. He is a pyschopath I believe, he will do that. Just my thoughts.
S2S

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Not sure of legal procedure in VA, but I know here in PA, any item taken
would have to be categorically listed, not just listed as (black bag with clothes). Each computer taken would need to be listed, serial number, something to identify it and set a part from other computers taken. I read the article listing the PC's but don't see them on the search warrant. Also the charges listed for reason of a search warrant being granted are taking iindecent liberties w/ a child, attempted, Contributing to the deliquency of a minor. But the warrant goes on to list items personal to Taylor, without a charge listed. Kind of strange. Then several days after the warrant was executed, they say Fawley is no longer a person of interest?

Posted by: Cindi in PA | Sep 30, 2005 12:08:57 AM
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Cindi In PA, Taylor IS a minor ... (and still technically a "child" in the eyes of LE)

Taylor IS a minor ... (and still technically a "child" in the eyes of LE)

Posted by: Heidster | Sep 30, 2005 8:38:04 AM

sexual consent is 16 for a female If I am not mistaken

I found the answer about the different lists. There were two searches!
First they took the 7 computers - Sept 16 (see below).
Then that investigation led to BF arrest and second search - Sept 23 - when he was arrested.
___________AkekoaHoalethia

Okay, that helps explain why some of the test results aren't ready. The fiber, stains, etc., were from the more recent search 9/23.

sexual consent is 16 for a female If I am not mistaken

Posted by: Cindi in PA | Sep 30, 2005 9:18:08 AM


Sorry, the law was changed in 2000, age of consent is 18.

Yes ... In Virginia age of consent is 18.

Perhaps this is helpful:
Va. Code § 18.2-61 stipulates age 13 for statutory rape victim. Section 18.2-63 specifies that "any person [who]carnally knows, without the use of force, a child thirteen years of age or older but under fifteen years of age, such person shall be guilty of a Class 4 felony." Variations in charges are included for cases in which the perpetrator is also a minor. Another provision--18.2-371--regarding contributing to delinquency--states that "[a]ny person 18 years of age or older, including the parent of any child, who ... engages in consensual sexual intercourse with a child 15 or older not his spouse, child, or grandchild, shall be guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor."

If any of these items are Taylor's, especially the cell phone which everyone kept calling at first is her's, isn't that enough right now to slap him with some kind of charge in regards to Taylor??????

I think I read somewhere that none of the cell phones belonged to her.

Why does it shock anyone that a felon had a gun or bullets? This is why these people go to jail in the first place, breaking the law.

As for charges be sought against Fawley for having sex with Taylor, I believe they are going to charge him with that from what they have been saying on the news.

He did confess to it.

What I want to know is why did Ben wait so long to do his fall cleaning? If he had items that belonged to Taylor why didn't he get rid of it sooner?

Hadn't the garbage been picked up at least once between the time Taylor went missing and the time the search warrants were served?

If I were Ben and HAD done something with Taylor I would have got rid of her stuff ASAP. He was a POI almost at the beginning of the investigation wasn't he?

What an odd assortment of items Ben placed in his garbage can. Probably just doing a little fall cleaning. The man is clearly insane. And,IMO, looking guiltier by the moment.

Posted by: agog | Sep 30, 2005 12:07:20 AM

After the first search, perhaps, he would likely remember "other things" that he should just get out of his house.

Maybe something was related to this OR other "incidents" he didn't want evidence for just "by coincidence" lying around his house???

I wonder if the yellow t-shirt and black cargo shorts listed as items to look for in the search warrant were clothing that Taylor might have worn to go skateboarding? Maybe she carried a change of clothing in her car?

Trash is collected once a week at residences in the City (the day of the week depends on the neighborhood). So there have been garbage pick-ups at Fawley's since Taylor went missing.

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