Taylor Behl Disappearance: Police Seek Info On Stolen License Plate

The personalized "GRN ERTH" plate was stolen in Richmond around the time 17-year-old Virginia Commonwealth University freshman Taylor Behl disappeared, and "preliminary information" indicates the two events may be connected, police said.

The person it was stolen from is not connected to the case, Richmond police spokeswoman Cynthia Price said. Citing the ongoing investigation, she declined to release further details.

Comments

[Captain Joe]

It doesn't make a lot of sense to steal and use personalized plates because they are more easily spotted and remembered by the public, as opposed to plates with a random series of numbers and letters. I suspect that the plates were stolen for a personal collection for fetish reasons. Does that remind anyone of somebody who collects plates and traffic signs?

[blues]

ok, so now I'm confused (it doesn't much):

I thought the licence plates that ended up on Taylor's car were missing several months before she disappeared?

Also, aren't they investigating two sets of license plates - Taylors and the ones that are missing from her car? Did they ever find Taylors original license plates?

[just me]

Green Earth.. Well well wouldn't that be a lovely marijuana filled earth for Ben? Captain hit the nail on the head. Nancy Grace will be doing a story about Taylor ob her show tonight by the way.

[PoorPaulaNNJ]

If you were doing something 'bad', and you had personalized plates on your car.....any witness will be able to easily recall what they said; whereas, a random set of numbers and letters would be hard to remember without writing them down.
Or.....
If you wanted to get away from doing something 'bad', personalized plates make sense because police and citizens don't have to look so closely as said vehicle.....you would immediately discount the vehicle because 'that can't be it; it didn't have personalized plates.
Or.....
If your doing something bad or leaving where something bad happened, having personalized plates on the vehicle would influence a witness to remember only "GRN ERTH" and not the color, make, model of a vehicle.
JMHO

[Captain Joe]

A googling of the GRN ERTH brings up an interesting possibility. In Virginia GRN ERTH is associated with the Greening Earth Society in Arlington, an off the wall special interest group that says that CO2 is actually good for the Earth. Must be a Bush organization.

[blues]

on the other hand, one has to ponder why would someone put these plates on the car? If it was in fact Ben who did this, why did he pick thos eplates - why a set of the many others he had to choose from? If it where me, I would pick the ones that would draw the least amount of attention - hence, I would not have picked vanity plates - esp if they had been stolen only recently.

[bob]

On the wild assumption, that the plates were from a collection, and the person selecting the plates could pick and choose what plate to use, could it be possible that he purposely left a clue. Green earth, hmmm. What does that make you think of? Fawley had also advertised for models to come to remote locals of abandoned buildings, oddly if any pictures of models and abandoned buildings exist, I have not been able to find them.

[blues]

Here's the article:
RICHMOND, Va. -- There could be a new clue in the disappearance of local college student Taylor Behl.
Richmond Police are asking the public what they know about a stolen Virginia license plate that may be connected. The plate is "GRN ERTH."

Police say the license plate was stolen, and placed on a different car. They want to know what kind of car, where and when it was seen, and possibly who was driving. If you have any information, please call (804) 514-TIPS.

Behl, a student at Virginia Commonwealth University, was last seen the evening of Sept. 5 when she left her dormitory room, taking only her cell phone, a small amount of cash, a student ID and her car keys.

The teen's car was found two weeks later, less than two miles from her dorm. Her license plates had been replaced with Ohio plates reported stolen several weeks before she disappeared.

Last week, police said they had several persons of interest in the case. Richmond police spokeswoman Cynthia Price says that now they have none.

I noticed that it doesn't say what car the plates are on. We're assuming it was Taylors car.

[New Creature]

The story stated "'preliminary information' indicates the two events may be connected, police said".

Is it possible they found Taylor's plates in the same parking lot as the car with the plates reported stolen the same evening (GRN ERTH)? As another person posted, the plates found on Taylor's car had been reported stolen months ago. Did they recover HER plates? If so, where???

Wonder what this "prelimenary information" is?

[blues]

A google search of "grn erth" gives:

>>GRN ERTH MONUMENTS QLTY 14220 KINSMAN RD >>CLEVELAND,OH44120-4825 216-751-3933

Note that it's in Ohio and it is a cemetary monument company.

[Robyn]

Blues, I believe the problem is they don't know what car the "GRN ERTH" plates were put on. They were stolen somewhere in Richmond and police want help in finding out what car they may have been put on and who was driving car, etc.

Here's the article:
RICHMOND, Va. -- There could be a new clue in the disappearance of local college student Taylor Behl.
Richmond Police are asking the public what they know about a stolen Virginia license plate that may be connected. The plate is "GRN ERTH."

Police say the license plate was stolen, and placed on a different car. They want to know what kind of car, where and when it was seen, and possibly who was driving. If you have any information, please call (804) 514-TIPS.

Behl, a student at Virginia Commonwealth University, was last seen the evening of Sept. 5 when she left her dormitory room, taking only her cell phone, a small amount of cash, a student ID and her car keys.

The teen's car was found two weeks later, less than two miles from her dorm. Her license plates had been replaced with Ohio plates reported stolen several weeks before she disappeared.

Last week, police said they had several persons of interest in the case. Richmond police spokeswoman Cynthia Price says that now they have none.

>>>>>I noticed that it doesn't say what car the plates are on. We're assuming it was Taylors car.

[Captain Joe]

My assumption is that Taylor's plates ended up on the car which originally had GRN ERTH plates. Cops want to know if there are any witnesses who saw the switch.

[b]

Capn joe got it. These kids are beyond you regular people. I just said that that it looks like a set up amateur white terrorist plot, like a bad Hurst thing. These kids are so wild they could be setting the whole thing up. Maybe they just killed her, whatever it is better than Law and Order. There are more twists in this story than contained in a spring. It would be funny if it was all a set up for them to get some much needed attention, except that Fawley got the SHAFT{literally!} Fawley would have to be the next jesus for him to document all that crap so weirdly, if he were innocent. There are some brilliant people in internet land, someone figure out how Fawley is beating the hell out of the law of averages?

[blues]

>>My assumption is that Taylor's plates ended up on the car which originally had GRN ERTH plates. Cops want to know if there are any witnesses who saw the switch.

ok, let me see if I've got this staight:

- a car with the license plates "grn erth" has its plates removed and replaced with different plates number unknown.

- Taylors cars' plates are also removed and replaced with plates from Ohio number unknown.

So, the police are looking for the person who removed the plates from the car in #1 above thinking that they also have something to do with the switch on Taylor's car?

[curiousmom]

It's beginning to sound more and more like maybe "somebody" is setting up BF for the fall.

If we found out all this info on BF, never having known him before, then I'm sure that people around there know so much more about him.

Taylor's car could have been put there any number of days after her disappearance, and who knows how many tags have been on that car.

I am not a BF supporter, it's a definate that he has problems way beyond imagination and needs to be off the streets. But I honestly don't think he's smart enough to have pulled off a murder/disappearance/whatever, without leaving telling clues definately leading back to himself.

I'm leaning more and more back to the "skateboarders"???
Couldn't it be possible that somebody wanted that car to be found, right near BF's apartment, knowing he had bragged about stealing license plates, and considering the fact that he had so many? And knowing the fact that he had some sort of relationship with Taylor.

[#7]

Curiousmom - the car was found closer to the "skateboarders" apt than BF's. I believe it was w/i several blocks of JS's place, but 1.5 miles from BF's.

[Randy]

I know that the A.P. has reported that the RPD does not consider Fawley a POI. But the RPD and the local Richmond TV stations and papers have not confirmed that report. I am convinced that Fawley had something to do with Taylor's disappearance.

[fishie]

I am convinced that Fawley had something to do with Taylor's disappearance. Randy

My gut agrees with Randy, now I have to work out the details with my brain ;-)

[Mary L.]

It was OH plates stolen from a VCU student in Richmond that were on Taylor's car.

What this new information presumes is that there is a third and fourth car involved....The third car was the rightful owner of the GRN ERTH plates (owner not involved), and the fourth car (presumably stolen) is now sporting the GRN ERTH plates.

It makes me think that Taylor is on the run out of state, or her abductor/killer wants us to think so.

[Amiqueue]

This new article states that the police are still interested in Ben, they have just dropped the POI label.......interesting

"Person Of Interest" Label Dropped For Ben Fawley In Semantical Concern
09-28-2005 11:57 AM

(Richmond, VA) -- Richmond police are backing off the term "person of interest" when talking about amateur photographer Ben Fawley because they are concerned the words create a false impression. Richmond police spokesperson Kristen Nelson says investigators are concerned the term "person of interest" is becoming synonymous with the term "suspect" and they want to do nothing to advance that perspective. Nelson says the 38-year-old amateur photographer's status in the case has not changed in the eyes of detectives. But she also wants it known that investigators are talking to others in trying to locate 17-year-old missing VCU coed Taylor Behl. Fawley has admitted a physical relationship with Behl and to seeing her about an hour before she was last seen leaving her dorm room around 10:30 Labor Day night. Nelson says because they are no longer using the term "person of interest" does not mean Fawley's status has changed and they're still extremely interested in what he might be able to provide to the case.

Copyright 2005 Metro Networks Communications Inc., A Westwood One Company

[blues]

does anyone know what the numbers were on the Ohio plates were on Taylors car when they found it?

[absynth_minded]

Hmmm..

I used to hang out with a bunch of hippie types when I was a kid, but none of them ever were high tech enough to run a website. (hint hint)

After I left the military I met quite a few modern day hippies that went to my community college. Seems they were gung-ho on issues like global warming, PETA, deforestation, and just activism/protesting in general....

In fact, they were so high strung on their own morality codes that I wouldn't put it past them to do something like set FIRES to businesses that didn't abide by their own personal standards and beliefs.

As far as I know, there is no rule against sexual deviants belonging to such fringe groups. My thought is, if someone like this was involved in whatever has happened to Taylor, it would only be natural for a tag reading "GRN ERTH" to catch their eye. A zebra can't change its stripes.

It's time to find out more abot our skater/hippie "friends"..........

[Denton56]

BF and his friends do not seem to be the least bit political. Most skaters aren't either. These are a bunch of loser kids who couldn't care less about the Green Earth or any other political issue. That's my impression.

How do we know that Taylor wasn't grabbed by someone having nothing to do with BF or the skaters? I don't trust one word coming from BF.

[GrannyToad]

I wonder why "they" feel there may some sort of connection with this stolen plate simply because it was stolen about the time Taylor disappeared. It's not the (stolen) plate that was switched on her car, right?

Because of the collector?

[cosmicMojo]

In fact, they were so high strung on their own morality codes that I wouldn't put it past them to do something like set FIRES to businesses that didn't abide by their own personal standards and beliefs.Posted by: absynth_minded | Sep 29, 2005 12:06:43 AM
Put it to rest already. Of the 4 fires mentioned here, 1 was proven to be natural causes: lightening; 1 was proven to be faulty wiring; and 1 was proven to be a lit cigarette. They are not an issue here.

[blues]

>>I wonder why "they" feel there may some sort of connection with this stolen plate simply because it was stolen about the time Taylor disappeared. It's not the (stolen) plate that was switched on her car, right?

maybe Taylor's plates ended up on the car that used to have the "grn erth" plates

[cosmicMojo]

Members of Behl's family and friends in her hometown of Vienna announced a benefit concert this weekend to raise reward money to encourage people to provide information that helps locate her.

A concert featuring some of Behl's friends and favorite musicians -- Shane Hines, The Brindley Brothers and The Echoes Band -- will be held in Vienna at Jammin' Java on Sunday at 1 p.m.

Proceeds will go toward the Friends of Taylor Behl reward fund, which currently stands at $14,000, said family attorney George Peterson

[cosmicMojo]

If you'd like to contribute to the reward fund, you can send a check or money order to the address below:

Reward Fund Taylor Behl
Friends of Taylor
C/O Johnson & Scarborough, CPAs
2571 Chain Bridge Rd.
Vienna, VA 22182

[fishie]

IMO none of Skulz's web "stuff" demonstrated any concern over our world. Seems to me his writings were all about himself and his little world.

The more I think about it though, I have to wonder if Ben could have pulled all of this off all by himself in the spur of the moment. I mean if Taylor's roommate had not had a boyfriend visiting would Taylor be missing. Was she really planning to go back out anyways?

Unless Skulz had a plan on the backburner he certainly had no way of knowing she'd be available in an hour after he supposedly walked her home at what did he say 9:30 pm.

So the LE must keep all ideas on the table, even the ones that do not include Ben. However my gut totally is convinced Ben is involved or knows something.

[absynth_minded]

With all due respect, there is nothing to put to rest. It's called thinking outside the box...

I'm not a conspiracy theorist and I do not think the fires are related to this case, but I've also been doing this for awhile to some success, and I've learned that sometimes the illogical makes plenty of sense.

Also, I'm not saying that Ben has expressed any political agenda (Other than writing various times something to the effect that he ALWAYS votes on many different issues.)

What I am trying to get at is we know pretty much ZILCH about his crowd or associates and personally, I'm not convinced that he's in this alone if he is at all.

Anyway, I hope that there is a police presence at this benefit concert, cause as everyone should know by now, they attract all kinds of people.
This will hold true especially if the person involved is a complete stranger, as it is a low risk way to interject themselves into her world.

[cosmicMojo]

thinking outside the box is great; and not many people can do it. Trying to attribute responsibility for fires already conculsively solved is a waste of time. It's not a question of logical or illogical.

There's a cool computer company that tracks the electrical impulses of lightening by latitude and longitude and records it so fire investigators can check a particular location by time later. That's how they conclusively KNOW that the Loving's fire was caused by lightening. Asking if Ben did it isn't thinking outside the box, it's in definance of known facts. That's how the fire investigators solve crimes. There was an article about the company in the RTD; I can provide a link if anyone is interested.

What is it you've been doing for awhile [sic] to some success? A private detective? A fire investigator? Police officer? Cool. Seriously, people love reading that stuff, you should have a web site too. Can't wait to read some of the cases. Can you mention some by name? Did you work on any famous cases? Do you think Riehl will let you post a link? I love reading about solving crimes!

[r]

Fishie,
The boyfriend was an ex boyfriend. Someone told the police that Taylor said she was going out with 3 skater dudes. Nobody saw the 3 skater dudes. Ben, he is crazy, read his journals. He was always hanging in the shadows taking pictures. The same day Taylor disappeared, Ben wrote that there were feuds between the hot and not goth girls, referring to Taylor, and that troll that was his, I don't know, girlfriend? He also said that the media only pays attention to goth when a teenager dies. The girlfriend wrote in her journal, around the time that Taylor disappeared, about digging holes, covering them up, waiting for the grass to grow, and that it wouldn't stop, and also about fires.

[anon]

I think it was during Nancy Grace or Greta last night: during a discussion it was mentioned that no search warrant has been issued for Fawley's house for items other than computers relating to the pornography charges. Did I hear that correctly?

[Robyn]

I'm wondering if Taylor did drive to or near the "skateboarders" apartment where she parked?

Maybe she parked near their place and whomever "took" Taylor returned the car back to that location at some later date?

>>>Curiousmom - the car was found closer to the "skateboarders" apt than BF's. I believe it was w/i several blocks of JS's place, but 1.5 miles from BF's.

Posted by: #7 | Sep 28, 2005 8:54:54 PM

[bull]

Suppose a guy who drives a white ford escort station wagon, and who lives just down the block from benjamin fawley, had his car tags stolen right around the same time that TB disappeared. The police suspect that whoever stole this set of tags [GRN ERTH] used them at one point on taylor's car, either to transport the car from place to place or to keep it unsuspicious in an open spot.

Also, rumors that they have searched a pond/lake in Louisa County, maybe an hour away, and were searching in Shockhoe Bottom area, maybe a mile or two from TB's dorm.

Sad to say, but I don't think LE supsects TB has run away. They do need to find TB so they can lower the boom on Fawley.

[blues]

I think that's it's clear from the search warrant that the police suspect BF in TB's disapperance - just look on the first page where they say what items they are looking for - it's all of Taylors items - the hooted sweatshirt, keys, cell phone etc.

[Robyn]

>>>Quote:BF and his friends do not seem to be the least bit political. Most skaters aren't either. These are a bunch of loser kids who couldn't care less about the Green Earth or any other political issue. That's my impression.

How do we know that Taylor wasn't grabbed by someone having nothing to do with BF or the skaters? I don't trust one word coming from BF.

Posted by: Denton56 | Sep 29, 2005 1:39:59 AM
End Quote"

According to BF's Line Nowhere website he was adding a political and enviromental section to it so he was most likely interested in it.

:: Other sections to Line Nowhere ::

Line Nowhere also has pages on. ::
Virginia Commonwealth University :: ~ (This section is down, but will be back up soon.)
VCU area crime :: information for students @ the Monroe Park Campus about the high crime rate around VCU ~ (This section is down, but will be back up soon.)
Political and other views :: ~ (This section is down, but will be back up soon.)
Election ~ ~ (This section is down, but will be back up soon.)
Environment ~ ~ (This section is down, but will be back up soon.)
Guest Book ~ A place to leave your mark and let others know you were he....

[curiousmom]

>>I'm wondering if Taylor did drive to or near the "skateboarders" apartment where she parked?

Maybe she parked near their place and whomever "took" Taylor returned the car back to that location at some later date?<<<

I am somewhat familiar with this whole area, having spent some time there training for a job and in visiting when my own daughter was interested in VCU. In looking at this map:
http://www.crimelibrary.com/criminal_mind/forensics/taylor_behl/maps.html and having walked in those same area's, I know they're all in close proximity and walking around certainly gets you there alot faster than driving.

I was wondering if the skateboarders knew BF, and had some sort of falling out with him, or maybe just didn't like him for whatever reasons, maybe they could have had something to do with TB's disappearance and parked the car near BF's. I just don't see BF as such a smart person, given his problems with bipolar and the medications associated with it, and even if he was off of the medications, that he could have done this, alone, and not left some clear evidence.

IF BF was abducted, not that I think he was, but If he was, he say's it was by 3 or 4 people. There were supposedly 3 skateboarders TB was going to meet, possibly the 3 skateboarders?

[curiousmom]

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That didn't come out right. Could the suppossed abductors of BF be the 3 skateboarders?

Maybe BF, while in his early morning walk, was in to close of proximity to where a crime was being committed, or was being committed, thus the skateboarders had to get him away from the area before he saw something they didn't want him to see?

[CosmicMojo]

"I was wondering if the skateboarders knew BF, and had some sort of falling out with him, or maybe just didn't like him for whatever reasons, maybe they could have had something to do with TB's disappearance and parked the car near BF's.
Posted by: curiousmom | Oct 4, 2005 2:44:08 PM

The car was not found near Ben's; it was found about 2 miles away from his apartment.

[Dr. Constance Richardson]

WAY to late to this thread-but just a PSA re BiPolar Disorder and what curiousmom had to say in her about post:
"I just don't see BF as such a smart person, given his problems with bipolar and the medications associated with it, and even if he was off of the medications, that he could have done this, alone, and not left some clear evidence."

Bipolar disorder does not in any way make a person "less smart".

I have nothing but comtempt for Fawley--this email is not about him or the case. I am a college graduate with a master's degree. I am BiPolar and I take medications for it. I am not the exception either.

Stereotypical classifications on public forums is one way that misconceptions are generated.

And they might say, "I KNOW this is true because I am a nurse" or I KNOW someone who is BP! Yes, you may have had an unfortunate experience of dealing with someone who was BP, on meds AND not very intelligent---BUT this does not indicate intelligence for the rest of the Bipolar population whether they take meds or not. The two have nothing to do with each other.

Meds may make a person "sluggish" or "foggy" during the induction phase--but this does not last. There are more severe types of mental illness that require heavy medications that may make a person "out of it" most of the time. However, the person still has the intellect he or she was born with.

I don't make a habit of posting to old threads BUT I just cannot sit here silent on this.

Peace-
BiPolar, Smart and annoyed by small minded people